Gusto Games drops Kinect support in favour of Move for new golf game

Prior to E3 Gusto Games' John Daly's ProStroke Golf was touted as being Kinect and Move enabled, except the game is no longer supporting Kinect.

[dangert12]

anything to do with the lag on natal lack off accuracy etc?
bit sad really i was really looking forward to natal,bar the lag but e3 killed it for me knowing theres not gonna be any gamers games on it =/

[Christopher]

Most likely to do with swing control and position.

[Anon1974]

Ouch.

[sid4gamerfreak]

who wants to get a crappy golf game anyway?

If I had to, wouldn't I GO OUTSIDE TO PLAY GOLF

[Shadow Flare]

I don't have a golf course in my back garden.

You say, "just do the real thing" but thats the point of games. You can experience the thing in the comfort of your own home, whenever you want. I'm sure you must have played a sports game before. And I know sports games sell incredibly well. So I guess they should all stop buying them and do the real thing? Don't get butthurt cos devs are leaving kinetc

[sid4gamerfreak]

me butthurt? no, no, no, no u got it all wrong...

u see, i play games because i dont want to be a simulation of the real thing but actually get engrossed in an entirely different world and have fun doing so. Creativity is what i seek and many games do that

I think ur buthurt about my comment, of my opinion. I HATE kinect btw, i dont wanna look like a dumbass...

[Shadow Flare]

Well I think you already have. Don't worry, i've got no reason to be butthurt by your comment. The only reason I replied to it is because it was one of the stupidest things i've read on this site (no offence). I mean, do you realise how much a set of golf clubs cost? Do you realise the time and effort it requires? And what if the weathers bad? Some of us have full time jobs you know and don't really have the time to play real golf after work. But your saying, we shouldn't play golf games, we should do it in real life. While that idea is nice, the reality is people like convenience, and thats why sports games in general sell so well. Yeah, we could go out and play football or tennis or golf, but you can just play a game of it at home. And while obviously its not as good as the real thing, its obviously more practical for normal busy people. So to answer your reply, no im not butthurt by your comment, but I do think you made yourself look like a dumbass

[nycredude]

Obviously someone here never tried to play golf. That is one sport that you just don't decide to go out and play . It cost lots of money to play golf. The equipment, the clothes, the venue, the country club memberships, food, weather all play a part. Not to mention the degree of difficulty, the shit is hard as fuck, even harder than Demon's Souls!

[thisisxbox]

The reason this is a such a lame news post is because it's so non-factual and mostly the writers opinion. "Now clear that all Kinect support has been dropped" - "perhaps indicates there are issues with developing for Kinect making it harder for third party developers than Move" - again another opinion.

This isn't news, it's a personal opinion, just because ProStroke has Move support and not Kinect without any information from the developers whatsoever. Prior to E3 it was never touted as having Kinect support, it was never there to be dropped. During development it wasn't an option.

[rdgneoz3]

/\ 360 gamer complaining about a 360 fan site writing a non-factual / opinionated article against kinect...

[CellularAutomata]

/\ PS3 fanboy complaining about a 360 gamer complaining about a 360 fan site writing a non-factual / opinionated article against kinect

Instert witty response below.

[Bigpappy]

But that is the way of things around here. The move and Wii have buttons and a point of refference controller. Kinect works with just you and a camera. It is obvious that is will be much simpler to program a game to use Wii and Move. Kinect is a completely different approch, and for all purposes, is still in R&D mode. Its going to take about 2 years for developers, including M$, to fully realize the potential of Kinect. In the meantime, we will keep seeing new implementations every few months, because just about any new implimentation will be a selling point for a game.

[Triella]

Actually many software development kits are available for Kinect the one they are most likely using is Gesturetek's Momo :

"GestureTek’s Momo™ Software Development Kit is available for game and application developers. The software brings the same immersive video gesture control capability that GestureTek made available to Sony for the PlayStation (Eyetoy) and to Microsoft for the Xbox 360 (Kinect)"

This dev kit has been available for more than five years and they also have many applications and toolkits for full-body analysis and motion tracking, specific features tracking and object tracking.

It's more likely that the problems encountered by these developers are due to the limitation of the technology rather than tool kits. Typically in a golf game you have to be able to change the view angle, or determine the direction or the power of the swing which Kinect can't transcribe.

[TheHardware]

its pure speculation...perhaps they just would like to compete with the other golf move enabled game on the ps3...or maybe the game sucks and MS wasnt happy with it....who knows?!

[SeanRL]

more flamebait

[Focker-420]

How?? This is a legitimate article.

[Freshnikes]

Be able to play tiger woods with kinect if so then it's no big deal...

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Tiger ships before Kinect. Maybe next year, but not this year. They already said Tiger Woods won't have Kinect, but maybe they can do a patch or something.

[ukilnme]

If this is the case, I find it interesting. It's well known that the PS3 itself is harder to develop for than Xbox 360. Would make things interesting if Kinect is harder to develop for than Move.

@ MariaHelFutura

I think it depends on the games and gamer's taste. Not all are the same.

[MariaHelFutura]

Move just makes more sense for actual games.

[rdgneoz3]

Different articles have said that the data they get from move is quick and easy to use, and the Move controllers only takes like 1-2 MB of system memory. Its just up to the developers to interpret the data in some interesting ways for their games, like the E3 presentation of Sorcery (love how they did potion with the move controller, that looked sick).

[CountDracula]

I can't wait to make a "hole-in-one" motion playing as good ol' Tiger when this comes out.

[PeterGriffinSays]

But golf games make much more sense with Move and/or Wii Motion Plus.

[NMC2007]

Awwwww they couldn't handle kinect, that's too bad, well, the more talented devs will take care of it.

[Biggest]

Do you have any examples on hand? I haven't seen one developer that can handle the "awesomeness" of the Kinect.

[cmacdonald]

How could you grip it and rip it if there's nothing to grip?

[dizzleK]

you use your weiner.

[PeterGriffinSays]

You need at least 2 bubbles @ dizzleK

[Focker-420]

Maybe cause it wasn't even possible. How the hell do you play a golf game with no peripheral?! That would be just plain weird.

[strickers]

If you don't code for Kinect from the beginning you are buggered.It can't be patched into games.Move uses same basic code as Wii,can be put into a game at any point in it's life cycle.Tiger will not be kinect enabled either.This may also be because kinect is suffering Wii syndrome.It's not capable of what they said it was.you can't scan objects in and the lag and accuracy will be a problem.MS may not want direct comparison with Move/Motion Plus as well before they've sold a load with those misleading videos.I think it will be very interesting with most games when Move vs Kinect reviews for the same game come out.

[jneul]

kinect can't detect a wrist rotation, and has lag issues according to some poeple, this would be a huge fator to why this kind of game simply cannot be done on kinect, wonder how long before that star wars on rails game gets cancelled for the kinect before they release what was on that pre-rendered video simply can't be done on kinect

[slave2Dcontroller]

Kinect just got its first real Invizimal.. A Bye Bye "Birdie". Heavy Rain loses DLC so Cage can implement Move support unwillingly and MS loses a Golf game bc Kinect is a suped up Eye Toy. Both MOVE and Kinect are garbage and I hope they fail miserably. Look at the shit that these Wii-Too peripherals are causing. I cant believe you guys are actually backing this crap. Seriously.