Top 10 Reasons PSN Will Be Xbox LIVE's Equal or Superior

A gaming blog has put together ten reasons as to why it believes that the Playstation Network will be just as good as Xbox Live or even better. Some of the reasons given include Playstation home, web browsing, frequent firmware updates and of course that it is FREE to use.

Hit the link for the list.

[D_U_I]

HOME.

Edit: That aswell

[daveman3]

i've got a better one, FREE

[larry007]

unlike backdated 2d text achievements on LIVE.

x360 is surely dead by now.

BTW ..ps3 has overtaken x360 in sales in NA in JULY (till date)

ps3 is now outselling x360 all around the world

www.vgcharts.org

:)

LOL

[ArmrdChaos]

For one...Home is NOT part of PSN...they are two separate entities.
Secondly...Harrison never promised that Home would be a free service...he has been quoted many a time saying they "hope" to keep Home free. It will all depend on whether or not they get a successful advertising model to pay for it.

[Omegasyde]

Hey home will be free however there is a big catch!

For free you get the bare basics, like maybe a couple options for a house and you live in a 1 bedroom apartment. "A bachelor's pad" or Section 8 housing.

For additional Cost you can get a bigger place and each game you buy will come with unique furniture/items (like new achievements).

I just hope they don't try and charge $4.00 for a lazyboy or ceiling fan. I also hope they incorporate a Ebay function or even a craigslist.com option. A virtual Kegerator would be awesome.

Who knows, Maybe SecondLife (since its losing alot of subscribers) will jump on with MS.

The real intresting part is when NCsoft (GuildsWars) comes into the picture and what features they are bringing to Home.

[Pika-pie]

Anyone WILL be able to use Home for free, without a doubt. Sony will make its money from downloadable content such as furniture/outfits and various other addons/material/funcanality within Home.

[Umbrella Corp]

in no means i hate the ps3,i love all consoles now just because its free doesnt mean its as good as xbox live,its still a long way for psn to achieve as many users as live in its current growing state.Xbox live attracts casual and hardcore gamer halo 3 will grab for sure but what about killzone2?its like a mystery it can turn out either ways.(no fanboyism)

[eLiNeS]

3200 MS points for $20 at Circuit City

http://www.joystiq.com/2007...

[ngg12345]

They usually are just for flamebait purposes, and really hides away frmo the more important news.

[hotshot1237]

we could put videos on psn and share it with everyone else. like youtube except on ps3. we get demos and everything else. and its FREE. and no matter how many people say home is gay or not. its not like we have 2 do it. but we still can. and its a easy way 2 communicate and join in games and start clans and things. so i can actually see when my friend is moving or anybody else for that matter and can easily get a response from them. just by walking or running up to them and talking on my headset. we will have achievments and people can see it in 3d. and its cool how the room is setup. we can play little mini games, such as bowling or arcade games. all this 4 free. and we can be creative with our apartments. the possiblities r endless. so yea, honestly i know in alot of my past post. ive been kinda fanboyish but im gonna try 2 stop that. and i TRULY do think psn will be better the xbox live

[ben hates you]

can get demos trailers, and access to everything in the marketplace for free, remember silver is free thats everydownloadable content, just no multiplayer online play

oh my god, i'm glad they made that backfire thing for the disagrees, this is true your just disagreeing because your freaking fanboys

[eLiNeS]

I hope the PSN becomes Equal or Superior to Xbox LIVE, that will just get M$ to make it that much better then it is right now, so bring it on! Just not anything like HOME, Please!!!

[Texas GMR]

..you don't get an annoying neighbor who always wants to run up and talk to you whenever he sees you in HOME. :-) That would suck.

[Dr Pepper]

So, is this just assuming that Xbox Live won't change at all in the future?

[ben hates you]

you

[Dr Pepper]

I'm more surprised that hardly anyone explains themselves. People just click the button and expect you to know why, I guess. It annoys me. And I already know that a lot of people will just click disagree on this post because there are many immature people on this site.

[ben hates you]

again with the disagrees

so people don't agree with me that people are disagreeing, well there is me, dr pep, gogators, bloodmask, we should not be getting disagrees its just stupid

[tethered]

I won't disagree with you because you are right about MS changing things.
They will have to to compete. If they don't they will fall behind.

Thats why having competition is awesome. Every time one outdoes the other, the other improves and so on. Back and forth. We all win.

[ericbs]

People will disagree with you when you say its odd when they disagree with #4 lol. Shows how smart some people are.

But back on topic, I agree with what you said. 2 reasons they put are because its free. If they don't charge for online, wouldn't they have to get that money from elsewhere. E.X. $20 mill they spend on making their online service better for free, could have been used to develop a game. I don't think it will be feasible to do make their online service almost as good as Xbox Live for free, without other sections of the console suffering.

[tethered]

@ ericbs,

They plan on paying for the service by renting out virtual ad space in the common areas of the online service.

Meaning, when you are in that big room, the one that is always shown from the beta, you will see ads on the virtual TV's and things like that in the background that don't interfere with the overall feel of "Home".

[sloth4urluv]

Are you lost? You have wondered into sony territory now.
You could state absolute truths like the sun is hot, or a water molecule is comprised of one oxygen atom and two hydrogen, and they will still disagree with you unless you have a sony or anti-microsoft avatar.

[hotshot1237]

cuz if we started talking about change. i could say how do u know psn wont keep changing along with xbox live so.............
i do understand what ur saying though

[ben hates you]

nevermind

[THAMMER1]

We all have one.

[ben hates you]

Disagreeing to you, ahhh.. i'm going crazy

[gogators]

that we all have opinions.

[ericbs]

I guess 6 people as of now think that not all of us have opinions.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I think any Communism leader would say we don't all have opinions...right?

John Kerry thinks we all have opinions though...and that's why he sided with you...no matter WHAT you believed. Abortion? NO!!! wait...yes...

no...just...no

[Fighter]

You worry too much. Plus you're asking for it. Take a chill pill, Dude.

[Rasecul]

When I was a kid back in the 80's, I knew a guy who liked to shoot cats in the @... Today he disagrees with people online, I haven't seen him shoot a cat's @ since the early 90's.

Internet is a great way to understand what is wrong with the world.

On topic, this article is BS. I enjoy PSN and I could not care less if it's better or worse than Live.

[s8anicslayer]

i would have to think those are all valid points, and i will be the first to say when home comes out my live subscription will be canceled. if price point is a major factor this gen of gaming then nothing can beat free! come to think of it one point that was brought out is the 360 wireless option is $100 that would bring the grand total $499 and if you added the hddvd option your looking at $699 for a inferior format, so with all that being said alls your getting for $399 is a strpped down cosole where all the added options should be standard for next gen gaming, and don't forget the extra $60 annual live fee! i bought a $360 core system at launch because they were out of the premium bundle so i can't remember if wifi was bundled.

[Bloodmask]

about why someone thinks something will be good in the future? I was born with the ability to reason and come to my own conclusions.

And I think it is wrong for someone to flaunt a humanitarian function such as folding at home. It kind of defeats the whole purpose behind it. It is like bragging about giving to charity. Truly low.

At the moment XBOX live is the leader. That is only to be expected with a 5 year head start. In the future I am sure PSN and Home will come around. Don't worry everything will be OK.

Why are there all of these PS3 Moral Articles? I reccommend some prozak....

[Darkiewonder]

Seems like we can make a comparison and call it a day.

EDIT: Oh look at that. 6 Disagree. Must be a slow day and nothing to play. keep it coming.

[hotshot1237]

u have all the same stuff and more. particulary talking about putting up videos and HOME. so why pay 60 dollars. agreed, that folding at home thing. while u cant go wrong with it, it isnt about gaming stuff. so idk if i would compare that with xbox live at all

[nomad117]

1. in game messageing i want to talk to my friends even when im playing in a single player game i don't want to have to go to the xmb to see what they said and it turns out to be hi
2. some in game music i can listen to well im killing everything in that game
EDIT: fine i don't need this stuff psn deosn't need in game messageing and in game music

[cprince01]

http://www.lasersharks.com/...

It is a lengthy response and is best suited for its own page.

[gnothe1]

yeah PSN is on its way. that why we got 12 game demos on XBL since E3 an the PSN has only got 1 an that was heavenly sword!! I hate articles like this because there mainly crap to start crap!! you guy could only hope that the PSN can get to where live was at on xbox 1.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Where any of those demos as good as Heavenly Sword?

[Devilbringer]

look at all those dissagree Xboxfan are SO pathetic im so glad im not one. 360fan that are mature dont you get angry that there is so many childish 360 fans on this site just dissagree because its about ps3? i wish this site gets a update where you can see who dissagree so we can do something about those morons

[razer]

You are blaming the Xbox people for the disagrees? I'm sorry but you must be a farkin idiot...

Just look up at the comments dude.. See how many disagrees Xbox supporters are getting for comments that are competely nuetral.

If anything this is problem with both. You know I never see these kinds of stupid lists from the Xbox side of things.. This seems for some reason to stem from the insecurity of Sony fanboys.

Almost all this dudes list is offered for FREE on Xbox Live with a Silver membership. The only thing you can't do is multiplayer game play. All other features are FREE.

[laryforlife]

all you have is biased opinions, fanboys of any sort are ruining this and you are a disgrace to human beings let alone ps3 owners

[Omicronn]

"Almost all this dudes list is offered for FREE on Xbox Live with a Silver membership. The only thing you can't do is multiplayer game play. All other features are FREE."

Thats pretty much all that matters.

Its like saying you want to pay for Call waiting on your phone bill when its free from 20 other providers.

No offense at all, I agree with almost everything everyone is saying on here, but I cannot understand defending that you have to pay for something that will eventually become free due to competition.

[BlackIceJoe]

I am shocked one thing is not on the list and that is PSN is open to Mods and such. I am not saying Xbox Live sucks I like it a lot. I just think being open to different things like mods is great. This is one thing that is on PSN that I hope to see also on the 360.

Edit

How do I get a disagree all I said was that being open ended allows for many great things and that I wish this was also on the 360. But I guess no one else likes that feature.

[razer]

on XBL are coming. Epic and MS are working those details out.

[Fighter]

Are mods even coming to the 360 or did you foresee the future? Links?

[hotshot1237]

just saying

yea im surprised mods isnt on there either. honestly i 4got about. thats pretty big too. one thing though is that playstation has had online longer and xbox still surpassed it and fast. but ps3 has only been out 8 months and will be getting all these features soon. and more so..................but still playstation had a longer time 2 build on psn. but i could understand why they didnt bcuz, back then, games werent really about online. its much bigger now

[THAMMER1]

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[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Oh, Thammer...you sure are a funny lad.

If I didn't like the movie "Troll" so much, I'd give you a piece of my mind...but just for bein' a good ol' sport...here's bubbles.

prick.

[RBlaze]

I have no idea if that was relevent atall, but it was pretty funny

[gnothe1]

I'm betting you were one on the guys who just took a bubble from me!! I didnt attack anyone an you guys still went after my bubbles. thats why this site is really starting to suck!! a person cant have an opinion with some idiots trying to shut him up!!

[Bloodmask]

You are correct. Everytime I post anything in a PS3 thread I lose a Bubble. And I always post within the guidlines.

They claim to have fixed the bubble system. But I don't think they have. My guess is that if you prefer XBOX that all the PS3 fanboys just click disagree and leave negative feedback.

The only time I ever leave feedback is when someone is truly
offensive.

This site has become truly biased. If you look at all the top contributors. They are all Ps3 fans and they also have the highest C-ranks. Just look at the highest points for the month. If you post a story that is anti-Sony it will most likely get pulled, as the majority of mine have. I don't really care as I do like this website. But it is not too hard to figure out.

[PlayStation360]

it's rather harder to lose bubbles now. I think I read, on this site, a new ruling was made concerning bubble loss. It appears, now the only way you can lose bubbles is if you bash someone, spam, or if you make a senseless fanboyish comment (ie: "PS3/360 sux" ). Well, thats what I read, i'll try and find the link for ya'll.

Edit: wait never mind. Bloodmask already knows (and commented) on this subject. MAN, I'm slow to reply. :( lol

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I think the PS3 fans have earned it. YOU MORONS trounced them into the ground ALL year...and everything is starting to go their way now. You just can't stand that WE WERE RIGHT!

[xhi4]

yeah :D

[hotshot1237]

so idk who took ur bubble but it wasnt me

EDIT: but when u said that comment. u meant it in a sarcastic way. u can tell by how u phrased the comment. so some ps3 fan might have took one away from u. but still, i know u were bein sarcastic so just dont be sarcastic and put ur comment and people might not take ur bubbles. but if they do,then there just sad. i personally like when people can put alot comments bcuz we can debate and it makes it easier to do so

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Shoutout to you dude. I have that same rule...to not take bubbles away from anyone. Why take away someone's right to speak? No, not the first ammendment. That's freedom of speech of GOVERNMENT! That means you can say anything about the GOVERNMENT that you want...NOT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE! Everyone seems to think it means you can do whatever the frick you want and get away with it!

Sorry...I just go off sometimes.

halosux. <see...there I go again.

I'm a tragedy waiting to happen.

[Numark]

eventually, PSN may be better than xbox live, but currently, its not even close folks. I know everyone will disagree, but o well. Its the truth right now. Its not the sole fact that xbox live has so many more features, its more the fact about how much content is available. How many demos, and videos, and movies are added every week.

[Dareaver1]

How can you disagree with that comment? Please enlighten me on how PSN has more content then XBox live and i'll retract my statement. I wish all the kids would just stay off this site. Kids don't have rational thought, they can only make biased decisions that only benefit themselves. They don't realize the negative affect their behavior might have on others. I.E. making this site sometimes frustrating to come to. It's sad, really sad when you can't acknowledge someone even if you disagree with their overall opinions.

I never give negative feedback, only positive, but i will disagree and i will let that person know why i disagree unless it is self explanatory. That's suppose to be what is so great about have debates and discussions,SHARING YOUR OPINIONS, and RESPONDING TO REBUTTALS. That's what made this site great to me when i first came to it. Well anyway, back to the article.

I would have to disagree with most of his list. The reason being that most of those features are on Live already, which would make it close to equal (like he stated). But i don't mind paying 50 bucks a year for great content. I was just playing bomberman on live for countless hours and i enjoyed every bit of it. (awesome game by the way) And i have caught up on The Avatar (animated series). I had fallen behind and Live helped me catch back up. I don't think he should have mentioned Folding@Home, that to me would be a disgrace of the program in itself, to use it as a way to brag, i believe is inappropriate. And i don't need a web browser on my console, I have a computer for that. So that's my opinion on this list.

[MarioFromTexas]

Online multiplayer should be free and if they are going to charge at least have the better connection...PS3 uses the same servers as PC gamers do, so which one do you think is more advanced P2P or servers...All the other feature from Sony or M$ I don't give a phuck, I get online to play multiplayer if I wanted to send messages then I would go to myspace.com...You see where i'm coming from the extra features don't justify the $60, I still pay them but as more games come out on PS3 the less likely I'm going to be on live....

[gnothe1]

hey hammer you see how they do me!! all I said was XBL got 12 demos an the PSN got 1 an the fools took a bubble!! now how childish an stupid is that!!

[THAMMER1]

Players play. You to smart for them "G"

[razer]

Just look thru some of the comments here and see some of the disagrees. I think it's obvious that the Xbox haters out number the supporters.

Don't let it bother you, we know the truth and if people want to be dillusional or just be a hater to get under your skin then whatever.

[ash_divine]

no my friend you have it very wrong. It's actual the other way around.
xbox 360 fans massivily outnumber ps3 fans.

PS: not everyone who doesn't agree with you is an xbox hater.

[Jdash24]

Sony just created psn 9 months ago and have only had a little while to get content, while xbox live has been around since 2003, so they have had time to refine their online

a good analogy of this would be like saying my 4 year old can walk better than your 9 month old
give psn the chance to learn to walk (and plz dont take my bubbles if u disagree, and if u do plz tell me why, i would love to hear your opinion)

[Lex Luthor]

Sony had a LONG time to plan the PS3 network, saying they only had 9 months is pretty much invalid. Only stating the fact sony said they would rival live when the service first lauched. Things like custom soundtracks, in-game xmb and basic things like that should of been included in the first place.

[boodybandit]

Articles like this are totally worthless. None of us know what direction Sony or MS will take their online. Maybe neither will outshine the other and both will offers things we all like almost equally. Ah... dreams of a perfect world. *slaps-self*

Ok I'm back to reality. I do like not having to pay for Sony's online and at the same time I don't mind "too much" have to pay for MS LIVE. If any of that makes any sense you.

Edit : People that disagree without explaination = COWARDS

[progx]

folding@home and firmware updates? WOW!...NOT.

Lets go through it shall we?

1. HOME isn't my thing, it looks like the sims to me.

2. Downloadable retro Playstation content (i.e. PS1 games).
-WHO CARES about last gen games. I convinced my buddy to buy wipeout cuz I had fond memories of that game, when you play it now...its lame.

3. Introduced downloadable multitasking/background downloading.
-again WHO CARES, my 360 can do it to, even when its off.

4. Integrated web browser with the PSN store set up similarly for a layout that most internet gamers are familiar with. PSN thereby branches out from its own system to the world wide web (gosh, that’s so 1995).
-Thats what PC's are for..DUH. I don't even browse with my Wii.

6. Easier and cheaper access to the network for Wi-fiers. All PS3s come standard with wireless capability, whereas it costs $99 for a 360 (yes I shelled out the cash for my xbox)
-I don't use wi-fi, it sucks.

8. Frequent firmware updates. Some might gawk at frequency and like only the large chunky and infrequent updates from MSoft. But the slow yet steady addition of new bits and bobs is fun.
-WTF...yeah, quick constant updates are such a pain, WAITING forever is much more fun *rolls eyes*

9. PSN has already accomplished much of what LIVE has done/has in 9 months. LIVE has existed for nearly 5 years (circa 2002).
-No it hasn't, it has a long way to go.

[MarioFromTexas]

what's wrong with that, sitting in the living room on my 40 1080p looking at the internet, it seems like you want to find excuses for M$..also the wifi works great on the PS3 by the way I play resistance 40 players online lag free, can you name one game on xbox live that is lag free even with a direct connection, I forgot you love playing on the inferior P2P connection..go ahead tell me how P2P is better than servers...and then tell me that the extra features justify the $60...Don't try to down play the better features just because m$ want's to charge you for it and make it seem like you have an option.....360 cost more than a PS3, I know live is an option but PS3 it's free multiplayer and how can that be offer as an option when it should be included

[natsfan7]

People stop being fanboys and accept the fact that both consoles and services are or will be equal. ANy major feature one gets, the other will follow and try to add another feature in an attempt to out do the other.....this is good for us. The only things I can think of that dosen't apply is that XBL dosen't have internet, and Im still hopefull it is coming. Both machines are great....get over it.

PS- Sorry if theres a lot of spelling mistakes; Im bad at spelling and didn't have time to check the spelling

[ben hates you]

to explain some things to people

[BIadestarX]

Please, can someone remind me the purpose of these kind of article...

A) Make PS3 owners feel good about their purchase and hope that microsoft will sit on their hands while PSN simple become a better service... ofcourse for free.

B) Try to make xbox 360 owners feel so bad that they will simply go an trade their xbox 360 and get a PS3.

I am all for change.. but what are we talking about here? The posiblity that one day PSN will be better? ohh I have hopes that Home will be the best thing since the wheel was invented. But those are assumptions... Not something that anyone can bet their balls on...
As of today, even the free parts of xbox live are better. I can download demos for free... for many games.. xbox live have hundreds of demos(counting arcade games)... how many demos are available on PSN? And dont even mention the fact that the PS3 came out not long ago.. because even demos for games that are or will be available for both consoles.. usually the PS3 demo is MIA. why is that? Is it because Sony would have to be the one having to pay the bandwidth bill? Sony will only put demos for games they have high interest on.
Take a look at xbox live market place... how many movies are available on PSN? Music videos? How many arcade games? Game invites, join friend session....
I am not trying to bash PSN on any shape or form.. since what I am talking about are facts... and though it may hurt your feelings (famboy symptoms)... it's what we see today.
You all know.. though you don't recognize it... only an idiot measures quality by a price tag... free does not mean better. That's why people pay premium for many services, such as broadband, Cable TV, etc.

I really want PSN to offer a better service than xbox live... since it will force Microsoft to make their service free... and even if it doesn't it will force Microsoft to add more value compared to PSN.. or people will not want to pay for the service... So, it's all good.

[exclusive]

Live is now one step ahead of psn with in game music/chat and good available content . but i belive that this fall it will be very close to live and yes it might even be better, lets just wait and see shall we.

[D_U_I]

Hahahaha

[darx]

Now if there were only more than a hand full of games to play no the PSN than maybe this BLOG would hold some water but that's no the case.

[kingjkv]

Why can't we all just get along......................... NOT!
That's just one dude speaking his opinion we don't have to kill each other over it. Anywho....... yes the PSN is better than the Live service.

[lVlemphizStylez]

as long as Sony doesnt pull a Microsoft and charge for Peer to Peer gaming I'm content...I couldn't really care any less whether or not I can send my friend a voicemail over my PS3...

[Arutha]

I'd like to get back my 1 minute of life after reading that article. Whatever happened to offering supporting evidence to statements?

[Hypnotic]

Maybe when those things happen then I will consider getting a PS3 but until then I won't be holding my breathe.

[batman2million]

Xbox live has 7 million users... and ps3 has... oh wait..there aren't even that many ps3's sold!

Xbox live is awesome, i gladly pay for the awesome service. It boils down to about 5 bucks a month...not even if u get the card on ebay - I got a year for 26 bucks!! - plus, there is no kill online app for the ps3, besides UT.

Even though the ps3 gives more user mod options, your asking for hackers to walk in! and there's nothing more i hate thn someone cheating in my game!

[s8anicslayer]

live has over 4 years on the ps3 and the psn you retard

[Mucudadada]

I <3 Free

[warfed]

what about the most important thing about the online service... gaming! now tell me which service performs better because Sony uses dedicated servers?

[exclusive]

Yes sony have Dedicated servers, and that is a major thing, in fact without it it would be bad for sony cause it isnt that many online users, witch will change this fall im sure of. but duo all the people that is on xbox live, they dont need dedicated servers as much as sony dose right now. but it Sure is a good feature. after the timed Pricecut from Sony on the ps3. even i have notice more users online in games on the Psn.

[MarioFromTexas]

that's it, i don't care about acheivements, I don't care about home, don't care about virtual apartments and furniture,don't care if I can play music during a game, don't care about chating with someone who is not playing the same game.....I want dedicated servers and lag free multiplaying, so which one is the best for me? PSN and it justs happens to be free. I hate paying for xbox live, because i get something better on PSN.......

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Welp Sony... GO FOR IT!! That only means MS retaliating with different stuff... and vice versa... great for us consumers... i'm skeptical about how long they can keep PSN free when the content and server usage becomes more and more robust... if they can keep it free then KUDOS and more power to them

[thraxas]

All I care about is online play as well. PSN as done that very well, so thats all the kudos right there.

[Figboy]

the PSN does *EXACTLY what i need it to do.

i'm not a big online gamer, but when i *DO get the urge to play some people in Resistance, Warhawk, or Calling All Cars, i like the fact that i can do so, lag free, and *FOR free. why should i have to pay one iota for a feature i'll only use about 10% of the time i own the console?

i can also download game demos, games, trailers, and wallpapers.

that is all.

those two conditions are being met for me, personally. sure, there are those people that love bragging rights (ie, Achievements), but that doesn't interest me. frankly, i don't give a rat's @ss about Achievements.

all i want to do with the PSN, is download stuff, and play online, lag free. and i get *EXACTLY that.

i view any additional features they add to the PSN, and Cross Media Bar, as a nice bonus, and always welcome.

[The Dude]

Its pretty easy to have a lag free experience on the PSN, because no uses it....

[lVlemphizStylez]

I fit the same scheme...Just want to play online now and then...Offer me a bare bones free service...keep your Titanium packages with elite color coded buddy lists and gamerscores...Just offer a bare bones P2P package for those that dont want to buy all those features they probably wont ever use...If PSN starts to charge, as long as they offer a basic free package of P2P gaming, I'll be fine...P2P gaming doesn't cost anyone any money..You play off the connection of another person...Not Sony or MS dedicated servers which if they cost money would be completely justified...because there are costs for a dedicated server

[djt23]

I hate these articles

[Jdash24]

then just ignore it, instead of clicking on it, reading it, and then posting a comment

[otherZinc]

PSN=POS

SONY people need to stop & let the PS3 sneak up on the 360, the PS3 is done, period.

The PS3 is about to die a slow death. I say this because the best game just came out ( NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA ) & no one purchased it?! Whats up with that.

[Lex_Yayo_407]

Yo get ya facts right before you come on here and say that Ninja Gaiden Sigma didn't sell.

[The Dude]

sonys had an equal experience since day one, or was that day two. sony will be lucky to offer the level of live by the time they release the ps4. Nothing sony does is unified.

[Sevir04]

it's like an all you can eat buffet. lol!!! very childish and immature indeed. Live is a step better than The PSN, but that doesn't mean there are things that PSN doesn't do well. what we need to see is that Sony's direction on the online space is different than MS. both will be awesome come years from now. at the end of this life cycle of both consoles is when i think we should judge which online space is better. and i'll leave it at that. as for this article. it's just stupid flame bait and plenty of disagreeing going on.

[Monty_The_Great]

because people think because something is free that it is better. XBL is always going to be better than PSN unless the PS3 starts selling like the PS2, which isn't going to happen any time soon. so to say that PSN is better because it is free, is retarded, so stop being a fanboy, and try XBL, and you will realise which is far superior.

[nice_cuppa]

not predictions.

if it gets better than live great.
i get to play on an amazing online service.

............but.

at the moment live is better.

remember....

" assumption is the mother of all fck ups !"

[cprince01]

response from http://www.lasersharks.com

Top 10 Reasons PSN will be Xbox LIVE’s Equal or Superior

The title signifies the single biggest problem with the list. It says “will be.” Whenever someone touts the superiority of the PlayStation Network over Xbox Live, it is always in future tense. The reason is that currently the PSN is nowhere near the quality of Xbox Live. The arguement is all based off of Sony’s promises and hype.

1. Playstation HOME. Home offers a rich avatar graphical interface for player interaction, activities, and trophies. Oh and can’t forget the posh apartments.

The apartment is neat. The only thing I don’t like is that currently you have to be online for people to see it. Not just online, but online and in your apartment waiting on people. This could easily be fixed, but in its currently planned state it is something that will be used less often than a Mii Parade.

2. Downloadable retro Playstation content (i.e. PS1 games).

This is a good feature. The Xbox hasn’t been around as long and does not have a library of games that could easily be downloaded. They do currently have a better line up of downloadable games on Xbox Live Arcade than what are on PSN. A problem with many of the old 3D games is that they look like a really bad wersion of what we have today. 2D games are easy to play and have a definative retro feel to them. Old 3D games tend to just feel crappy.

3. FREE, FREE, FREE! The PSN is completely free unlike Xbox LIVE.

The PSN is free. XBL cost $50 bucks a year. The advantage goes to the PSN. You currently have a seamless XBL experience while every PSN experience is different. I will predict that if PSN ever becomes something that rivals XBL and Sony manages to keep it free, XBL will go free as well. Until then, I will gladly pay my $50.

3. Introduced downloadable multitasking/background downloading.

I am not sure what you mean by this. XBL has supported background downloading since launch day for the Xbox 360, and it came out about a year before PS3 or the PSN.

4. Integrated web browser with the PSN store set up similarly for a layout that most internet gamers are familiar with. PSN thereby branches out from its own system to the world wide web (gosh, that’s so 1995).

To me it seems that your biggest point with this argument is that the PS3 supports a web browser. I have plenty of web browsers. I have a web browser on my desktop. I have a web browser on my Wii. I have a web browser on my PS3. I have a web browser on my PSP. I have a web browser on my Dreamcast. I have a web browser on my PDA phone. I have a web browser on all three of my laptops. I have plenty of web browsers. If someone has a connection to the internet they most likely have at least one of these devices. I have never used any of the browsers besides my computers or phone for anything other than just seeing how it works. I have never used any game console browser more than just a few times each. My point is, it is more gimmicky than anything.

5. Future integration of Video On Demand, Music on Demand, Singstar.

“Future integration.” XBL currently offers Video on Demand and is in fact the largest digital distributor of Hi-Def movies and the second largest digital video distribution network overall. Music on demand would be nice, but I would rather have it on my computer where I can easily play it on my iPod or my Xbox 360.

6. Easier and cheaper access to the network for Wi-fiers. All PS3s come standard with wireless capability, whereas it costs $99 for a 360 (yes I shelled out the cash for my xbox)

Yeah $99 for a wi-fi adaptor is ridiculous. No arguement here.

7. Folding@Home. Using the power of the PS3 and the PSN users can contribute to the understanding and possible cure of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, and MS. Come on, PSN should win hands down for this humanitarian effort.

Kinda cool. It is good to help a cause. I have heard more about this than any other single feature of PSN. However, if I were a heartless jerk I would point out that this does nothing for me as a gamer.

8. Frequent firmware updates. Some might gawk at frequency and like only the large chunky and infrequent updates from MSoft. But the slow yet steady addition of new bits and bobs is fun.

Frequent firmware updates. The reason for so many updates is that the service is still trying to find its footing. XBL does have more frequent fixes on a per game level that only affect software. Frequent firmware updates mean one thing - increased chances of bricking the console. I know it is bad compare realiability of the PS3 to the dismal failure rate of the Xbox 360, but firmware updates are the most common cause of failure for any electronics device that was working properly before.

9. PSN has already accomplished much of what LIVE has done/has in 9 months. LIVE has existed for nearly 5 years (circa 2002).

I would say taking consoles from a virtually nonexistent online experience to a point where it is one of the most important parts of a console is a much bigger accomplishment. The Xbox wasn’t designed around online connectivity, it was added later. To be fair, PlayStations have been online a lot longer than 9 months. The Xbox Live did as much, if not more, in the first nine months of the Xbox 360 as PSN has done. It set the bar for what PSN hopes to be.

10. Free. Oh wait I already said that… oh well, it’s a biggy.

See number 3.

[IPlayGames]

Have to copy and paste the whole article??

[Lex_Yayo_407]

Live got a big start on the PSN, but all you gotta do is give it time. We wasn't talking caca about the 360 when it came out, but now 360 got some competition they wanna bash us. I ain't bashing no system, theres no point in it. Im a real gamer, I play games I like to play. I don't be bias against systems that are really good. Plan and simple.

[IPlayGames]

Being able to invite a friend to a game. (While he or she is playing another game PSN really needs that.)

Mic on every game.(I normally turn mine off when i use Live to many little raciest kids)

And to chat while playing a game (mic/text). (But we all know that coming 2.00)

Oh yea then they gotta start charging $50 a year and they'll be just like Live.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Yeah, PSN has a long way to go before it's on par with Live. Live has too many features and is very easy to navigate right now for PSN to even be in the same league. This article assumes that Live won't continue to evolve and upgrade.

Although, if PSN really catches on, then maybe Live will be free eventually too. I predict that Live will eventually be free, but with advertisements, and if you want no advertisements, then you pay the fee.

[lVlemphizStylez]

I'd be all about a separate package with advertisements...I don't think Live will be free until PSN puts fire under their @ss...Because MS already tries to nickel and dime you to death on Live..."Scratch your rear, that'll be 80 points"...It's a 10 dollar charge to just change your user name...

[Lex_Yayo_407]

From what I seen on Live they already got advertisements on there. I've done seen them advertise different 360 systems, different controls, T-Mobile and so on.

[The Karate Kid]

Before I get started please understand that I DO own BOTH consoles and Yes I do Have a GOLD XBOX LIVE MEMBERSHIP!!

Shall we proceed.....

1) *FREE* Sure enough the Original XBOX LIVE was a success, but PS2 has twice as many online users because it was free. Same deal for PS3 EVERYONE will have a PSN account simply because they dont have to PAY to sign up. Already 2 million users in under 9 months, imagine how many it will be 2 years!!!! ONLY BECAUSE ITS FREE...........

2) *HOME* THIS WILL BE HUGE, and it will just take off after launch, being able to have all of my friends over in my virtual home and we can listen to my music off my own PS3 harddrive and watch videos off my PS3 Hard drive sitting down watching trailers together and then taking off to play ANY game together will be AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Tie in HOME to all PS3 games and i would never want to buy a multiplatform game on 360. OH AND HOME IS COOLER THAN ANYTHING ON XBOX LIVE AND IT IS FREE.....................!

3) CONTENT!!! TEKKEN 5 Online, WIPEOUT HD, PAIN, WARHAWK, SOCOM CONFRONTATION....These are games that smoke any 360 downloadable game to date!!!! And these are BIG titles that you can download. Sony Has 80 PSN games that will be available by March 2008. That is HUGE!!! XBOX LIVE cannot provide that because every console does not have a Hard drive. They are screwed because of that. And that is just the beginning, Just imagine if Sony Start Releasing Re-Vised PS1 games or PS2 game in HD over PSN. Like Metal Gear Solid 2 & Metal Gear Solid 3 in 1080P or Final Fantasy 7 in HD or the original Metal Gear Solid in HD...............! ALL THIS ON A FREE SERVICE...........!!

4) Firmware Upgrades, I mean its just a fact...Every month something cool comes onto the PS3. The system is constantly upgrading every month and matching 360 feature for feature but only adding more features. Soon with **HOME** and maybe some features like auto turn off after download, XMB access during gameplay, Voice chat across all games.......ALL THIS FOR FREE.......................!

5) PS3 Achievments, We all know Sony is in the works of creating an achievement system. Could it be better? Could it match, regardless of each it will enhance the system even more, which makes it more close to XBOX 360 and once again its FREE.........................

6) ITS FREE.......................... .....!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Then it's not free, this is one of the most delusional things "some" PS3 fans see. There is hardly a thing left in this word that is free not even clean water is free and the earth is mostly water.

[btkadams]

i dont understand what u mean. PSN is free. no one is being delusional, of course it costs sony and devs money to do the things they do with the PSN, but that doesnt mean its not free to consumers. ur argument is completely pointless. no one is delusional but you, the psn is free and ur trying to say its not?????

[Robotz Rule]

It's a better,more maturer online experience(Maybe it's because kids can't afford a PS3)

Live is just full of a bunch of ignorant kids and racists.

And best of all...It's free:)

And it offers great game downloads like Super Stardust HD,Calling All Cars,Tekken,flOw and so on.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It's not a bad service don't get me wrong but comming from PC gaming and Live gaming, Live is just superior. You get what you pay for and I'm spoiled with what Live does. Infact I see gaming going the Live way on all fronts eventualy. If it's not a Wii-Live a PC-Live or a PS3-live a closed network for gaming is just better.

When they figure out the best way to deliver mods on a closed network that works, IMO you will see this style of service everywhere. Somethings are just better paid for, they tried free internet once to and look how that turned out.

[nomad117]

Just need time like another year before the Psn will be a great service by great i mean what xbox live is

[crippler666]

IMO I prefer PSN to Live. The updates come fast and often, the games cater for both single and multi player experiance. Free demo's of the games you want to play (Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, etc).

Being able to surf the web using your PS3 is a big bonus, plugging in a standard USB keyboard and mouse and it is just as quick as a PC.

I know many people will argue over their own music playing during games and rewards for playing a game. Whilst they are good ideas, most games now adays have mood setting music that sets the feeling / tension for what lies ahead. As for rewards, that is just another name for unlockables, which should be on a game as standard anyway IMO.

[Jdash24]

i think that microsoft and sony should work out a deal so that ps3 owners and 360 owners can play against each other on multiplatform games like COD4, GTA4, rock band, and other games like them, that would make it way more fun, then the fanboys could battle it out in the game : )

[Omicronn]

Half the fan boys are either very young, or paid to make half the BS posts you read from both sides on here and everywhere.

Making cross platform games would just be for the real gamers who dont care if their playing someone from halfway around the world, or on a commadore 64 ;)

[unsunghero28]

I think it's time someone came out with a "Top 10 Reasons Top 10 Lists are Repulsive Wastes of our Time."

Number one could be the hypocrisy of the concept itself.

[Omicronn]

I use both, and I know one thing...

Competition will make XBL free soon too... Which means Sony will be KING in many an xbl user.

People complain about which is better and blah blah blah when it all comes down to value for your money.

If you see your phone company is charging you X amount of dollars, and then you see they drop the price because a new phone company charges less...
You dont get mad and defend the phone company your using because they make your bill easier to read then the new company...

You say Cheers! Thank you for competition.

[astrobrights]

PSN will not be free forever. It's only free for now.

[thraxas]

eh? How could you possibly say anything about that?

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Breaking News N4G is going to be renamed to Wars4Fanboys

[DJ]

I'll be surprised if Microsoft keeps charging its customers for online functionality/gameplay. Sony made a strong foundation when they set up PSN, and now that the functionality and content is making its way through, they've actually ended up matching and/or exceeding Xbox Live in almost every way. There's still a few kinks that need to get worked out, but considering how fast they fixed everything else...

[power of Green]

It was hinted at E3 XBL will have web browsing capabilities. As for universally usefull feature's MS has the edge in my book. Alot of 360 owners have people in their lives that barely alow time for the actual games we'll see how successful HOME is. Some how i doubt MS will just let a hardware company beat them at software.

[Wile]

from the list:
1. Home (good point, looks really cool.)

2. downloadable PSone games (nice feature, good point)

3. FREE (XBL's $50 price is perfect, makes a perma-ban sting a little more for those who wish to exploit hacks, cheats or generally act like a jerk online,. On the contrary, on PSN the solution to a blocked, ignored or banned account is to create another one FREE of charge. It also limits those users who jump from one account to another just remain anonymous will doing annoying crap.

4. Web browser (meh, if this is a deal breaker for investing $50 on XBL then maybe you shouldn't buy a console at all and look into a computer instead. Surfing the net on anything other than a computer (ie cellphone, blackberry, PDA, console, etc.) just suck and is tedious at best.

5. Video and Music on demand. (XBL has video on demand, but music on demand would be good, but with out the ability to burn the files to disk or my ipod, I wouldn't pay for songs just to have them on my console. I can stream my music from my computer anyway.)

6. Wifi (good point)

7. Folding at home (good cause, but this is not a service that benefits the customer, therefore I don't think it should be included as a reason that PSN is better or equal to XBL, it's a great cause but not a selling point.)

8. FREQUENT firmware updates (XBL updates the firmware as well, but only about two or three times a year (estimate) Flaunting the fact that PS3 is getting 'frequent' updates as a benefit is a bit strange. I think most would agree (except rabid fanboys) that most of the updates for the PS3 are more like fixes for the original firmware and adding feature that should have been available during the PS3 launch. IE upscaling, BC bug repairs, etc.)

9. PSN has accomplished what took XBL 5 years to do. (yup this is true, and in the end the customer doesn't care who did what first or how long it took them to do it. They care about what the service will do for them as the customer. But to MS's credit, they did it without the luxury of have a competitor service to analyze, learn from and essentially copy and build from.)

10. "Free. Oh wait i already said that...oh well, this a biggy." (this is the last in the list and suggests a little biased attitude in its wording and presence. This would be fine and not surprising until you read the intro and the bottom line where the author essentially claims neutrality and unbiased. All I have you say to that is that the author is clearly favors PSN to XBL.)

So there it is. PSN could become THE console online experience, no argument. However some of the reasons in this are article are questionable and feel biased. I wouldn't call the author a fanboy at all, but his/her "enthusiasm" for the PSN is clear. The author representing this list as unbiased is a bit annoying.

[The Wood]

not everybody has their pc where their console is. My friend has his pc in the bedroom and he's a bit of a nocturnal dude and when his wife is sleeping and he's downstairs he uses his wii to surf the web because powering up and surfing in the bedroom would likely cause some, lets say, friction. Having a browser is a must and i'm sure MS will follow suit

The bit about it being free is a deal clincher for people who have never used live. Its not our concern as a consumer to worry about how we are getting something for free its just free.

The frequent updates is truly a good thing. Its like how I.E used to be vs FireFox. When there were problems or flaws be it security or functionality you would have to wait a while for a big update where as with firefox they could deal with things more swiftly with its more frequent smaller updates. The thing about the frequent updates is that it wont always be so frequent once most of the features people want are implemented so there will also be a slowdown eventually kind of canceling that one out at least in the future anyway. XBL also added features and fixes that should of been their since launch but thats why their called updates.

I think other than that I agree with you.

[WilliamRLBaker]

Have a browser microsoft knows better and fears it taking away from comp needs, the wii broswer is the only worthwhile one, because of point and click other wise it sucks cause most sites beyond simple html,css,frames...ect wont work, flash sites, movie avi/divx....ect viewing wont work.

most console browsers just plain suck.

[The Wood]

add a mouse and theres no problem and no PC toes to step on. Im not saying its a great browser just its, whats the word, a nice option

[WilliamRLBaker]

because we all know xbox live will not grow or get better.....last time i checked live wasn't a crappy beta like psn....i mean comeon theyve had how many firmware updates in the past 8 months? 4-8 last i checked.....

p.s: this being not even the blog of someone in the industry....its nothing but propaganda but i will say this.....when your 2 biggest reasons is....freee freeeee freee you better start worrying not only is it rare for free to be good, sony will be looking at every chance to make money....

p.p.s:folding? lol thats ur ace? let alone the @home programs out there not a one has been shown to contribute to the data its crunching "no cures, no lil green space monkies" at last check the number of ps3 users with folding turned on hadn't breached 1m yet and there are near 4m sold that means then a 3rd of ps3 users dont give a damn bout folding.....lol

[kewlkat007]

Opinions, well I'lle give mine, eventually gamers will be paying for PSN. HOME just sucks, I don't care about having a house and sitting on the couch with other boy gamers,(not my style), I just want a quick dash to look and play content.

NFL 2k5 had the whole house thing, while collecting items and such,.I just have no time for "SIM" nonsense. I'm a casual gamer, what the funk would I be doing wasting my time doing nonsense, walking about, besides playing games.

Not taking shots on PS3 but, even if I had PS3 now, I would not be excited about HOME, sh!aat, I don't think, I've ever played Sims. Waste of FN time. I got other sh!t to do, then going on virtual gaming dates and taking virtual sh!ts online. That's just me.

Yes PSN will catch up with some other features. What makes you think XBL is just gonna sit on it's @ss and let it..hahaha. This guy say some good things, more along the lines of fanboy opinions wanting PSN to dominate but they are valid. Well I gots opinions too..

So yeah XBL will sit there and do sh!t, while Sony catches up...wah wah..NOT, Ms will continue to listen to users and add features, like it has the past 5-6 years.

HOME is nifty, but a long-shot from something brand spanking new here, just take a look around at Sims and other second lives.

[Cook1eMan]

The article really has nothing to do with news. From jus reading the list normal people can figure out it's just some crazed fanboy. For sony to be better than xbox live, than there going to have to copy anything and everything from xbox live as they are already doing. Home is just a free game to me, it's not going to make tons and tons of people buy the PS3 so you can walk around some fake world. As for wifi, you have to compete all the time with signal strength, unless you have the routher within 15Ft of your system it's never going to be as good as a wired connection. So why would someone ever spend $100 for something thats going to work half ass? Just so the PS3 isnt left out it's kind of useless for that system to depending where your router is.

[Chava]

now and again
psn does the job for me cos i don't go online enough for it to be worth me payin for it
the internet browser is VERY useful, youtube now replaces tv chanels in my bedroom, cos there's so much stuff on there

[Captain Tuttle]

And never should have been approved. Lasersharks all over again. I can't wait for school to start up in a month.

[Vertius]

Just look at how it ends. No. 10 is that it's free, and it was already mentioned. A jest it may have been, but it really affects the quality of the article.

I do think that the PSN will be able to readily compete with Xbox Live in time. Home is a huge advantage, despite what some people will try and make you believe. Time will tell.

[felidae]

i don't get it why people are so wild about that online stuff.

you can play online, isn't that enough for a gamer?

i don't buy a console because it has some cool online features - really, not!

[TheMART]

So again

Its future talk. @Homo isn't here. The service isn't up to XBL standards. Are there any PS3 games out there that can do co-op jump in when you're invited by a friend while you're playing a totally other game? NOPE

Can you talk or textchat with each other while both are in other games?
Do you get downloadable demo's like GRAW2, Blacksite and what about the COD4 multiplayer beta exclusive on XBL?

It's not about doing that girly homo dance in @homo. Thats Sims, a game on its own. Its about instant jumping in, communicating with your friends, and very important: content. Like Video Marketplace and soon IPTV through 360 Live

[felidae]

we won't buy a 360 - you can say what you want. for us, the online capabilities of the ps3 are enough + we have more diversity in games.

i like the 360 for some games - don't get me wrong. i just don't think anybody who's waiting to buy a ps3 will buy a 360 because you've said it has better online features. it's a videogame console - not an internet console.

that's my personal view - i'm not that much into multiplayer.

and don't forget - it's all free till now. you're paying a lot of money for your online features on the 360.

[Devilbringer]

grow up maybe?

[ReBurn]

I think that TheMART, while a bit crass, makes some good comments. First, @idontcare, he isn't trying to get you to buy a 360. Also, the comment that it is a game console and not an internet console couldn't be more off. The online component to gaming is extremely important this generation, and after experiencing Xbox Live and the PSN, I would have to say that Xbox Live does online multiplayer better.

To me it is worth it to pay $50 for 13 months because the features are just that compelling. I play online games on both consoles and the PS3's connectivity is good. The interactive features are sorely lacking, though.

[sandip787]

god how can people disregard the entire PSN? everyone can at least agree that it is a decent service and it will keep getting better, right?
oh and people chillout, its only the internet, you will not die, i repeat you will NOT die if people disagree with you.

[jay3]

I tittered like a little schoolgirl XD

[ReBurn]

PSN is a very good service. I especially like it that I can access my PS3 from my PSP anywhere I can find a wireless hotspot. That's huge in my opinion. I hope they keep adding features like that.

[killercam19]

half the feature that the jackass listed are features the 360 already has so i dont get his angle

[jay3]

PSN will get much better no doubt, but i don't think it will be better than Xbox Live.

I think the only REAL thing that could make PSN cme up to par with XBL is home. Which is great, but i don't really see much fun in inviting people to come back to my fake house and sit on my fake couch...

The whole PSN thing REALLY needs Voice Chat in the same way that XBL does.

It could happen, but, Microsoft MADE online gameplay on consoles, Sony's just looking at them and thinking "We should do that!" and giving it one more thing.

With online i thnk MS will always be a step or two ahead.

But hey, since when do random people on forums make a difference?

[felidae]

the guys at sony know exactly what they do and they don't just "look at the others". they prove this with games like Echochrome, Little Big Planet, Eye of Judgement and others ....

for the online stuff ... i think it's ok to look what other people do and to copy things that work fine.

[Eagle_CFC]

First some background which explains how I have been able to reach my opinion.

I have owned a 360 and gold live. The only reason I no longer have a 360 because it sadly died from the red rings.

As a result I now have a PS3.

The whole point of PSN and Xbox Live is to play people online, everything else is a bonus. So lets judge them on what's most important here, playing people online.

This was my experience... Crackdown (best game ever) co-op on Xbox Live. 1 hour of co-op play = at least 5 dropped connections with Live, both me and my friend had perfect connections and this would happen most times that we played and we'd have to restart what we were doing. Both of us had our NAT settings perfect.

Gears of War online (most fun FPS I've ever played but only offline) this equaled 4 players vs 4 players max, and as I'm not great at FPS games I would find myself spending ages trying to find the other players on the maps, only be chain sawed from someone hiding round a corner or for the connection to screw up (resulting in my character freezing for a minute - then once live starts working again, I'm dead). Ruined the fun.

PSN. Resistance online, much more fun online as up to 40 players and even an FPS noob like me can kill at least 5-10 peeps with so many players around. Relentless and never any lag despite all the action and players, is amazing and great fun.

Motorstorm, 14+ players at once, no drop in quality, never once had lag or dropped connection.

My exeperience is that PSN is that not only is it free of lag but it's also free in cost, I've only ever once had the connection drop during a game in 4 months. With the stupidly expensive Xbox Live (£40+£60 for wifi) is a con, the service was consistently flawed, it was VERY prone to lag and connection drops. I've heard this is because Sony use dedicated servers whereas MS do not, no idea if this is true?

So for online gaming PSN is so much better.

For the record I miss my 360 and loved it so consider that I am in no way a fanboy before you respond.

[killercam19]

GET THE F*CK OUT my cousin has a ps3 and a 360 and his ps3 is gathering dust cus theres nothing to do on it, i'm sorry u suck at gears and hate when ppl kill u boy i sure do hope epic fixes that problem, and yea gears has a connection problem sometimes when people with bad connections enter the room u ever thought maybe it has that problem cus its a high graphic game. Second i had crackdown it was an ok game i used to play online with my cousin all the time never dropped connection so what does that say to u .........it should say that u need a new internet provider.

[felidae]

dude ... calm down.

he just stated his opinion and nothing more. i also had some problems with XBL so what do you want to tell me?

[The Wood]

have dedicated servers on the ps3. 1 of the war fps coming to the 360 (name escapes me) will be the 1st 360 game with dedicated servers. And calm down to the dude above

[WilliamRLBaker]

perfect connection?

perfect nat?

let alone the FACT there are well documented lag stories on resistance.
prefect is imposibble there is allways lag online this is fact, and no nat is perfect, i have to say your story is in question cause u sound like a sony fanboy you DONT have to buy the wifi for 360 you can hook it up wired not only that the 360 works with nearly every wireless extender on the market some which can be puchased for 40 dollars us so you dont need the wireless for 360.

[Eagle_CFC]

My internet connection is very good, don't take the word perfect literally and use that against me that's silly. By perfect NAT I mean my settings were as recommended by Microsoft and when I ran the test connection utility it told me my nat was open, etc, I also had all the relevant ports open for Xbox Live.

I had to pay for the wirelss adaptor as my router is in a spare room and my console is in my lounge, I did not realise until after paying for ther 360 adaptor that there were cheaper alternatives, but in fairness you do not see these on the shelves in the UK I've only ever seen them online.

Why would a fanboy talk about missing his 360 and Crackdown being his fave ever game, and GoW being his fave ever offline FPS? You need to at least explain that comment, it seems baseless to me.

All I know is haiving my nat and ports all perfect Live was dodgy for me while at the sametime my internet connection was fine, games would lag and drop connection, and my co-op buddies would swear blind their connections were working fine at the time also. And I can PROMISE you in the last 4 months I never once had lag on Resistance, another 360 onwer confirmed the same thing on a post I did about this a while ago, honestly never lagged once, I have NO reason to lie about this. I couldn't give a sh!t if Sony or Microsoft came 2nd in this 'console war' (behind the Wii) the bottom line is we're all gaining from the competition, something I personally embrace.

For Anadapaul88. The guys comments are that PSN has some similar attributes to Live after only 5 months, hence he's listing things that Live built up over the last 5+ years. And dude, settle down, there's no need to be rude. How are you going to win people over if all you do is react aggresively.

[Eagle_CFC]

andapaul88, I'm not saying Live sucks because I'm not great aty FPS games, my point was that the service is limited which makes it less fun for noobs. If you're up against fewer opponents and have to spend time finding them it's not as much fun. Yet PSN provides at no cost 40 player death match with no lag (at least not for me) where even noobs can have some fun. See what I mean? This is all while using the same ISP as before.

All I'm sahying is for online play PSN sits on top for me. Beyond that Live is far superior.

[WilliamRLBaker]

you dont ever see them? you must not go to any place other then the local market then because i've been to europe and your country does have electronic stores, and they carry said wireless bridges right on the shelf.

Simply put not every one experiences 0 lag on resistance, and Sadly unlike xbox live, in 2 years time resistance will have no online sony will drop the servers because of cost like all dedicated servers on Playstation network ps2 have done so far, Where as I will be having a fine slightly laggy time 5 years from now on halo 3.

P.S: heres a tip dont play with people 3000 miles away from you on your connection, Its gonna be laggy, And dont say they lived close to you, because then I know your lieing, Because I've never EVER had a lag problem when i played with another insight cable user whom lived in my state, the only time I have lag problems at all on xbox live is when the people I play with have crappy connections or live super far away.

[TexasJock66]

I'm a proud owner of both the 360 and the PS3. Both are great machines...however, Live on PS3 is horrible. Nobody has a headset (because it has to be bluetooth) so it costs about $50.00 to get one..oh wait, isn't that what the Xbox Live service costs? Xbox gave me my headset for free. Hmmm....

I have to admit the PS3 live experience is boring since no one talks to one another. On the 360, I have a list of friends that is truly a community. We get on to chat and play in games together. During the games, we talk and act like a team. I go into Resistance on PS3 and I'm bored because no one is talking. I might as well be playing single player mode.

Free vs. 50? If people are complaining about $50.00 per year (about $4.00 per month)...you need help. I guarantee most people spend more than $4.00 per month on other items (alcohol, weed, etc). Is $50.00 a year a lot of money?

If a game is cross-platform I'm definitely playing on the 360. Why? That $50.00 a year allows me to have an incredible Xbox Live experience with some real online friends that I can interact with verbally.

Just my 2 cents....

[crippler666]

You should try RFOM, played it after the update, around 10 people playing the game talking through the headsets about DIY and the joys of fishing turned the sound off in the end.

As soon as Warhawk and Socom are released most people will have a headset.

[Lex Luthor]

Folding at Home..... That's a live killer right there i tell ya.

/end sarcasm

[ARog34]

For one, you neccessarily don't need a bluetooth headset. I'm sure almost a third of PS3 players use the USB Logitech one from PS2(which is only $15 right now)... Also, another reason for no1 using headsets is that the game does a terrible job of supporting it (ex. Motorstorm, no offense, idk why it never works)

FREE/YEAR vs. $50/YEAR... here you have to put in 'YEAR' because it adds up over time. I plan on owning my PS3 up until the next generation (idk, maybe 10yrs)> so that's free gameplay everyday... and the 360 for 10 yrs (if it lasts that long)> $500

Plus, all I can say is HOME will grow bigger and bigger staying FREE, except for some D/L content. And once more people keep buying a PS3, which they WILL since PS2 was the most played console in June, the PS3
community will grow and be huge, once again because it's FREE...

Yeah, and you made a good point to multi-platform games for right now, until PS3 Home gets its own achievements...

[TexasJock66]

Thanks for the info on the Logitech headset. I'll have to check that out. Does the headset connect to the PS3 or the controller? That's one thing I really like about the 360 headset is its part of the controller...this allows me to walk around the house when I die and wait for the match to end (which is often...LOL). If it doesn't connect to the controller, does Sony have plans to do this?

I agree with you on the achievement piece. At first I thought they were going to be stupid...now I'm an achievement whore. I can't get enough of them. LOL. Its nice to see your gamerscore grow...give you something to work towards when playing the game.

I'm looking forward to HOME...If done right I think it could be cool. The whole standing around and dancing piece and decorating your home is kind of stupid...but it will appeal to the younger gamers.

Thanks again for the info.

[TexasJock66]

Do you know if you can access your friend's list and send messages from a Playstation Website. I do this frequently on Xbox.com. It allows me to view my friend's list and see who is on. I can also send text messages from this site. Is there something similar for the PS3 and if not, do you know if there's something coming?

Sorry for all the questions...I love my PS3...yes I was one who caved and bought one when the price dropped...I mean when they decided to have a clearence sale. I felt like I was cheating on my Xbox when I bought it. LOL. I've never owned a Playstation. I bought it mainly for the Blue Ray...but I've enjoyed playing the single player RFOM as well. I might checkout Motorsport, it looks decent. I'm looking forward to some of the PS3 exclusives: MGS4, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, and Uncharted, Drake's Fortune.

[M1am1U]

PSN has alot of catching up to do with XBL, which is to be expected with XBL having about 5 years head start. Everyone is touting HOME as the XBL killer, but I just don't see it. This is just my opinion, but HOME seems like it would lose it's novelty really fast. You go online to get the content you are looking for, or play games. Are there really that many people that are going to hang out for hours on end in their virtual pad? XBL and PSN both have frequent updates, so there's no real advantage for either one there. I have a feeling PSN will slowly catch up to XBL, but I'm not sure they will ever surpass it, IMO.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

Clearly there is not 10 reasons as he had to use "free" twice. Even though I know its supposed to be funny, I have two words...NOT FUNNY. PSN will not be better than XBL this gen. Microsoft will always be on top in tghis department. Whatever Sony does, Microsoft will always come back to one up them.

[newarknj360]

microsoft has something up their sleeve for the fall upgrade on the scale of movies on demand so we're supposed to see a major upgrade not to mention iptv

[TexasJock66]

I think I remember reading a few months ago on N4g.com, that Microsoft has signed a deal with NetFlix. I wonder if we'll ever be able to have unlimited movie downloads for a monthly fee. That would be a nice addition. I'd probably use it more. Right now I belong to Netflix and rent movies for the 360 HD-DVD player and I have the Blue Ray in my PS3, so I don't download a lot of movies from the Xbox Marketplace.

I hope they add the Zune Marketplace to Xbox Live. It would be cool to download music directly to the 360.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I hope they add zune marketplace to xbox-live. You already use the same microsoft points on the same exact account on pc and xbox.

[newarknj360]

why would you wanna walk around to access an arcade game, i honestly like menus where you can just sort through games and play them, i dont see hardcore gamers enjoying this

[jay3]

I'm sure theirs some really hardcore 'Sims' players out there.

Like, moi!

[HateBoy]

...that they like psn more because its a mature experience, with few to none little racist kids cussing you out all the time when u play. Completely agree, I've just given up my gold membership on the 360, its not worth it unless you take full advantege of all the features. Me, I just wanna play online, I have friends, dont need virtual ones, and for that PSN is more than enough. Just got my ps3 a little while ago and couldnt be happier with it, still favour the 360 though as it (currently) has more quality games.

[TexasJock66]

I agree with you on your comments on the young racist kids on 360. I'm surprised how many kids under 17 are playing games that are rated M. I've heard rumors that Xbox is developing some security around this so people can report anyone under 17 playing a rate M game. They will investigate and if they find the complaint true, freeze their Xbox Live account and their parents will need to unlock the account.

[Bathyj]

I think Little Big Planet and Singstar will blow PSN wide open.

And why dont S.E.T.I have a program for PSN yet. Finding Aliens is so much cooler than curing cancer.

[xbox360elitegamer]

I really don't think there will be difference, they both are great, just one is free...

[ApocalypseShadow]

little big planet-just the concept owns.nothing on live like it.

singstar-nothing like it on live.

larger game downloads as an option is better.

having a built in web browser to surf quickly is cool.and free.

free-some live users have been paying since xbox1.i haven't paid a cent.live can't touch that.i been playing online for free.and for those like me who don't need to play online 24/7,that's great.no charge.

home will smoke 2d text any day of the week.somehow it's fine in nfl 2k5 with "the crib."somehow it's fine going to the arcade in shenmue,fine to create an avatar in any other game,but some of you can't do this with a free download that you can share with others?give me a break.

as for downloads,sony has more movies,more music,more tv shows and more games to offer than microsoft could buy.sony could over time whoop live's @ss.but we'll just have to see won't we?

[ARog34]

No, it just connects to one of the four USB slots on the PS3... haha, no it doesn't plug into the controller. The 360s does? I never knew that.

Anyways, I have the old version which was $15 dollars when I got it, sry I guess I just checked they have a new one out now for $25. Geez, major rip off...

I'm going to have to go Bluetooth later on... I'm really thinking about getting the Warhawk bundle because it's an insane deal, plus a really good headset every1 will have it who buys it.

And, I just have to say I'm disappointed that Sony never made a standard BT headset, it would have been a lot better...

[lVlemphizStylez]

that'd be kind of pointless seeing every bluetooth headset would work, and most people have on for their phone...(Assuming you're an adult and not a teenager that asked for a bluetooth phone and was told no by your parents...)

[DiLeCtioN]

for now ill give it to Live but when Home comes things will pick up on PSN

[toughNAME]

sony fan boys have to wait :(

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Why do people think xbox is dead. multiply 7 million xbox players times $49.99. That is three hundred forty-nine million nine hundred thirty thousand a year minus what people spend in xbox market-place and video-marketplace. Microsfot may not make a lot of profit off systems but xbox-live sure brings it in quick and easy.

[ps360]

flamebait the only way one can get a good story around here

[Rhezin]

LMAO this article is rediculous, xbox live will ALWAYS remain superior, not like the PSN where it's a trash infested trailer trash park.

[360Crusader]

Its times like this when I know this site is mostly Sony based.
Come on XBL is Legend, PSN can only copy. And HOME please when I first saw it my first impression was yea anything to get the sony fan boys minds off not having any games. And remember I said at the time cause sony didn't have any games at the time.
And XBL set the standards for online, just try and keep up PSN.

[lVlemphizStylez]

the stench of fanboy you're giving off is just downright offensive...turn it down a notch...

you should read your own post..."XBL is Legend" "And HOME please when I first saw it my first impression was yea anything to get the sony fan boys minds off not having any games."

I apologize...there is no fanboy direction to your post...I'm wrong for having judged you by your comments...Sorry "360 Crusader"...you're the antithesis of fanboy...sorry again..

Lol a person with the name 360 crusader calling someone else a fanboy, wow...just wow...As far as your 360 comments...go read my posts, Im anticipating Halo 3 and waiting for its release with the Falcon to pick up a 360...But I don't leave condescending posts such as one of them that I quoted above from you... I will not sit around and call XBL "Legend", they charged you for peer to peer gaming, I'm sorry but IMO that's a big No...PSN isnt gods gift to gaming either, but I'll live without the features for free Peer to Peer gaming...So respect my opinion..You're entitled to yours, but there is a level of decency that should be regarded when expressing it..And belittling others for liking Home or supporting the competition isn't the way to respect that level of decency

PS: Criticizing or praising something isn't what makes someone a fanboy...It's the manner in which they do it that brings them to that level...Remember that...I didnt say anything because you supported one or criticized another...It's how you did it that put you in leagues with Fanboys

I completely agree...sticking up for something when it's wrong is not right...What's right and wrong when it comes to opinion is PURELY SUBJECTIVE...For my needs PSN is just right for me...Live does not appeal to me because of the type of gamer I may be...I just want P2P, nothing more (Like the PC gaming...you know free p2p, how its been for decades)...A simple Dell is fine for me, I dont need alienware to run my Pro Engineering programs for school..Therefore I will prefer the cheaper dell to the more expensive Alienware...Because one suits my needs better...

[360Crusader]

Fan Boy? lol HAHAHA Why because I disagree with you that PSN is better then XBL. Your the fan boy check my posts fool I'm no fan boy. Facts are facts and my opinion is my opinion so you turn it down a notch cause your the real fan boy.

Edit: Makes no difference what you say, everyone knows XBL made online gaming what it is today for game consoles your only in denial. And I dont care what you think you find a post where I insult the PS3 itself go ahead. Or its up coming games MGS4 AWESOME, KILLZONE 2 AWESOME, and HAZE AWESOME. And its a shame you judge wrong cause I have a PS3 do you have a 360? Well do ya fan boy?
And what I said above is merely true what you dont think so?
Maybe thats what separates us I give credit when credit is due nothing more. PSN is far from being almighty.

And dont ever mistaken me criticizing Sony's online net work for criticize the PS3 hardware it self!

[360Crusader]

Well then by all means pick up your 360. But I've had a PS3 since launch
name how many Xbox fan boys can claim that one? And by my name what about do you know how many hours I spent on XBL since the first Xbox.

Whatever, like you never sat their and weren't disappointed with how slow things were moving for Sony after spending all that money. But I'm glad to see their picking up. But XBL is what it is. And criticizing their network does not make me a fan boy and neither does praising XBL.
Hell if I was a fan boy I would tell you straight out why should I care huh?

Edit: I will respect your opinion just remember you started this by calling me out not the other way around. And XBL has been doing its thing for a long time you should respect it. And give me a break $50 a year. I'll be the first to say its worth it.

Edit 2: And if you call it being not a fan boy by sticking up for something even when its wrong now thats what makes a true fan boy.

Edit 3: Hey I'll admit it maybe I was outta line a little about the HOME comment. Just spent a lot of money at the time and was disgusted can you really blame me? I do think its cool. So I'll take that one back.

Edit 4: Well alright I guess if that what you want, and all that you need then thats fine. I dont know if you ever tried XBL but you should their is so much stuff available to you. That if you tried it $50 would seem like nothing compared to the XBL experience.

[PS360PCROCKS]

yeah right. Fix the horribly slow download speeds first. Heavenly Sword took like 4 1/2 hours. On a Friday night at 10PM...ridiculous.

[power of Green]

I SEE THE OTHER COUNTER THREAD ABOUT THIS ISSUE WAS PULLED BECAUSE SONY FANBOYS REPORTED AS SPAM AND FAKE ETC.

[nosmok]

What some people are not quite understanding is that the ps3 and 360 both have 802.11g Wifi cards but the xbox one is external and yes an extra cost.

Now you see this as a negative at first... but now consider...

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g 0 54mps...
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11/n 0 100mps...plus better range.

Xbox 360 can just change the part and wow suddenly 360's network performance is double that of the hardwired ps3.

Someone was a smart cookie I think at Microsoft.
Watch and see them work their ticket on that.

(side note. I have all the consoles.)

[zonetrooper5]

Well this article is pretty crappy. The PS2 online service was free yet it was horrible, I did play it and I also had XBL, if you can afford to buy a £425 console yet your not willing to pay £2 something a month then something is kinda wrong with you.

Anywhoo, PSN still has a long way to go before it even thinks about catching up to XBL. XBL on the other hand is ver far ahead but it still needs alot more stuff, as for Home it looks rubbish, its a Sims/Habbo thing and trust me it will be boring and slow to move through. I don't use Wi-Fi for my 360 but I use it for my PC, mine as well hard wired your 360 to the router.

[Odion]

i was going to go into a big retort, but then i saw this was just some random list so I am just going to name a few things.

1. A lot of the stuff they say is catching up to the 360, video on demand being one example.
2. Wifi is crap for online gaming

[s1lv3rw0lf]

something seems "free", it isn't always better.

Fanboys...amusing little...things. =|

[Chava]

and u hav to pay 4 it

and just think, u'll want to keep ur 360 for 4 or 5 years, that means u'll b payin a lot if u add it up...

[greenlynxx]

Allow me to point out how ridiculous this article is. The author makes a number of idiotic points.

1. PSN is and will be better because it's free. That is the same as saying a Honda Accord is better than a BMW because is costs less. Or how about free TV is better than cable. XBL is better independant of its cost.

2. The author's reasoning assumes that XBL will stay the same while PSN improves. Huh? To be fair we have to assume that MS will provide upgrades and continous improvements to XBL including an answer to Home.

The main reason I don't believe that PSN will ever touch XBL (in this generation) is because the PS3's OS requires considerably more memory the the 360. This is a fact. With that in mind they will probably never be able to integrate, or at least do well, things like cross game chat, one of the best features of XBL, among other things.

Credit needs to be given where credit is due.

[Emmo]

From people I speak to that have both systems it sounds to me like XBL kicks PSN ass at the moment, sure Sony have some cool things coming, but do you really think microsoft will just sit back and add nothing more to their service.

What a pointless article.

Stop being fanboys and enjoy the system you bought, you are all starting to sound a bit worried that you have made the wrong choice in you console purchase and are trying to justify it to yourselves.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

You do have to pay for XBL but you get what you pay for. You pay FOUR dollars a month and you get about a THOUSAND times better online service. That sounds like a steal to me.

[ARog34]

How can you compare cars to gaming systems?!? If that was true it's like saying a 360 is one of those ancient broken down triumps stuck in the past in my garage collecting dust, and the PS3 is a new sleak hybrid Mazerati that I use everyday... Is that fair?

OK, sry about that. Anyways, PSN being FREE isn't the only reason it will be better than XBL. HOME is where it starts, and it will continue to grow and grow and to potentially be greater each week. It's just a bonus it all being FREE to us PS3 users, so I don't ever need to worry I can get updates, browse the internet, build my own virtual house, and talk with other people, AND roam in my trophy area and other places in PS HOME... XBL may be great now, but PSN is right on its tail especially with HOME making its debut.

[Tsukasah]

George W Bush will become president agian.....

[smack]

At the moment you would have to exist in some fantasy world to compare PSN and XBL. It is easy to predict that PSN may one day equal or surpass XBL, but any rational person would have to admit that today it is not even close. I admit I do not own a PS3, but have played one a few days at a neighbors house. The graphics are nice (no better than the 360), but the online component is lacking. The entire concept of Home is out in left field from my perspective, but I suppose it could appeal to folks from other cultures and countries outside of the US.

[mintrieri]

They aren't even close to matching the functionality and services of Xbox Live right now. It's not as if MS is going to just hang-back and stop adding new features. The Sony-faithful will just have to wait (some more) and see what the future brings.

My God, this month alone brough Live users over a dozen killer game demoes equalling several hours of gameplay. If Live was bad, that would be one thing, but it's great and the Sony-faithful don't want to hear that.

[Wile]

^^^^^

[cloud360]

I take bubbles on purpose from people who have 1 left

[cloud360]

I take bubbles on purpose from people who have 1 left

[IRONMAN457]

home will conquer live in everything, 360 is dead, halo cant bring it back and so cant live