"Closed" Xbox Live blocked FFXIV

Eurogamer: Final Fantasy XIV Online creator and director Hiromichi Tanaka has told Eurogamer that a "closed" Xbox Live blocked the game from appearing on Xbox 360.

[jaredhart]

That's an unexpected reason.

[digitalivan]

"...so when we wanted to introduce this game in the same environment as Windows PC it had to be PS3, so that was our choice."
who said that Xbox was more of a PC then PS3?

[Conloles]

Who would honestly pay for a subscription on top of XBL anyway?

[morganfell]

You are mistaking what he is saying. The PS3 and PC are open development environments and the 360 has a closed environment. This has little to do with hardware.

Another example is the fact that like several people I have over 100 free UT3 maps downloaded directly to my PS3 from websites browsed on the PS3. Also an untold number of skins and weapons. The 360? MS didn't allow this even via external drive.

EDIT: Hmm a disagree. So someone feels MS did allow downloading? I want to see that. Wait, it's one of those hurt feeling disagrees. Oh well. For PS3 users, this is a great site for UT3 direct downloads: http://www.ut3mod.com/ Check out one of the DL characters:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y...

[Christopher]

*** Who would honestly pay for a subscription on top of XBL anyway? ***

Anyone who already paid for the service and wanted to play the MMO from their console? I don't think this is that bad of an item for those who are already paying $10-15 a month and will be playing other online games and online features. Honestly, $50 a year for the ESPN features if you're a big sports fan and a gamer is more than a good enough reason.

[FragMnTagM]

Gold membership is not needed to play MMO's on the 360. Silver is sufficient and the only thing you have to pay is Square Enix's monthly subscription fee.

@Morganfell

I have been trying to get people to play UT3 on the PS3 with me, but whenever I play it, it takes forever to get a match going due to there being a very small amount of people that play it. If you still play it, send a friend request to FragMnTagM on the PSN and I will gladly hand your ass to ya. J/K, I need to brush up on my skills with that game.

[Kurylo3d]

xbox is closer to a pc, only problem is they are idiots when they come to online. They want to close everything so they control the money. Its like what apple does.

Its stupid and its gonna hurt them in the future... espeacially with the growing rage for mmos.

[sikbeta]

Nah, the problem here is that people pay for xbl and then goes the Subscription for FFXIV or any other game in this situation, people will don't want to pay for Both, this would affect the Game cos people still be paying for xbl and may give a Damn about the game...

[Theonik]

@Kurylo3d: You hit right on the money. That is exactly the problem. It is also the reason Portal 2 will get a lot of exclusive features on PS3. MS is extremely strict when it comes to online infrastructure. Apple does the same with the iPhone.

[IHateYouFanboys]

personally im happy that Xbox Live is a closed system. it means that everything across the whole platform is uniform in design and how it works.

and not caring in the slightest about MMOs, not having MMOs on the 360 doesnt bother me. and even if i did like them, id just get them on my PC or PS3.

[Christopher]

I hope you're being sarcastic, jaredhart. I think it's pretty much been the consensus with the gaming community for a very long time when it comes to MMOs on the 360. It was the reason why APB and Champions were removed from being on the 360.

[The Great Melon]

I just don't understand people who played FFXI or any MMO on the Xbox because you had to pay so much to play the games.

Pay for internet. Pay for Live. Pay for FFXI.

If it were exclusive to the Xbox it would be a little more understandable, but I would have just bought it for the PC to bypass the middle payment.

[Red-Dead-Roar]

don't forget that you have to pay for
electricity
rent
food
alcohol
drugs
+++
as well.. sounds like an expensive game.

[tda-danny]

No, you clearly don't understand.

People who play FFXI on the Xbox 360 DO NOT have to also pay for live. FFXI works with a silver account.

Obviously M$ did not want to give SE the same deal with FFXIV.

[The Great Melon]

Wow never knew that. I forget that not every game requires Live to play online. Thanks for the information.

[Godmars290]

MS has no idea how to deal with Monster Hunter. Are offering XBL "free" for the MMO's subscription. If they don't know how to do that, handle other MMOs similarly, its just going to lead to headaches all around.

[raztad]

It may be the same reason why STEAM support is coming to PSN while XBOX LIVE is left out in the cold.

This is a trend. FFXIV, DC, Portal 2 + Steam. Good news overall for PS3 owners, not so good for xbox owners, dunno if they care though, x-game-chat is still there.

[8thnightvolley]

i always knew the reason was from MS side rather than them wanting it to be exclusive.

[lelo2play]

Microsoft is really fu*king up with their "closed" Xbox Live. How many games and features have they lost with their stupid rules regarding Xbox Live.

As for FFXIV the best place to play it will probably be the PC.

[AntBoogy90]

PC is always the best system to play any game lol.

[Gene]

Don't agree I like laying on my bed and playing game I don't give a shit if it looks better on a pc I hate playing on a pc hurts my eyes.

[AntBoogy90]

You can always set up a controller and map it so that you can play with a controller rather than sitting at your comp :/

[Andronix]

Square-Enix have got FFXI running fine on LIVE, so what is the barrier that makes FFIV on LIVE a closed system?

[tda-danny]

If you read the article, it says SE couldn't come to an agreement with M$ regarding FFXIV.

This clearly means what M$ was unwilling to give SE the same deal they have in place for FFXI.

Short Answer: The 'barrier' is Microsoft.

[Spenok]

Makes sence to me. I can imagine it would anger some fans to have to pay $290 for the first year alone to play this on 360. Now i did this in year format because XBL is a yearly sub. I also added the price of the game into the equation. Now if you take that out then its $230 every year after. Though *180 a year for any game is kind of steep, but i guess i cant complain...ive been playing XI for 6 years xD.

Also i did this based on a $15 sub, since thats the norm. Who knows, maybe they'll go for a 12.99 Sub like they did with Xi, though that wouldnt make much of a difference.

[TheHater]

They are just waiting for the $$$$$ from MS. We know, they know, media knows it, and MS knows it. A "Close xbox live" didn't stop them from putting Final Fantasy XI and all/most of the add-on on the xbox 360

[zoks310]

We know, they know, media knows it, and SE knows it, M$ got money so why not shack them down a lil' bit? They have been handing out money all gen so why stop now.

[Karsghul]

FFXI came out before they changed their online policy and what if MS gave them $$$? Wouldn't that mean more money to finish the game on time?

[sikbeta]

No guy, even if SE "receive" money from MS, FFXIV will be affected = no-1 will pay for it cos they pay for xbl, a dude will prefer to not pay a monthly subscription or pretty much don't care about the game cos xbl, the feature that let you play on-line and other stuff comes first...

[Persistantthug]

Look at the Valve Steam thing.

Look at ABP...look at Marvel U...look at Champions....now we can all look at FF14.

Trends, TheHater.....Trends.

[SupaGamer]

to criticize MS's need to control everything.

[byeGollum]

Final fantasy 11 Online was on 360 too

[koehler83]

FFXI was slated for the Xbox but an agreement could not be reached until half a year into the 360's life. If that's how long it takes to negotiate a deal with MS, most MMOs will die before getting there.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Buy a PS3...and move along.

[Speedy180]

The World be a better place If everyone just did that. XD

[authentic24]

This really makes no sense when the last FF MMO was ported to the 360? Has it become more closed since then? Am I missing something? Phantasy star was also on 360. IDK sounds like BS

[Colonel-Killzone]

LOL its not bullshit. Square been trying to bring FF14 to the 360 for god knows how long actually. The only bullshit here is Microsoft.

[authentic24]

Other mmos appeared on 360 right? I'm not a mmo guy but was it something missing from those mmos that will be in this one? It sounds fishy to me. but maybe thats because I don't know what it is they are doing differently than when those came out. Only thing I could think of is maybe they want to do constant updates in which M$ won't allow them to do, but don't other games do constant updates?

[Colonel-Killzone]

The reason is because 360 has its own policy with xbox live different from the internet. This came directly from Square themselves. So apparently their rules is different from what the psn has and also the PC. Nobody knows the full details except Square and Microsoft.

I can say they been trying for a very long time to get this title on the 360. So if anything you would have to blame Microsoft for this nonsense.

[AntBoogy90]

That's why. When FFXI came to XBL, that was before they changed their online policy. A few other titles were lucky because of this, but now XBL is more strict when it comes to online play.

[authentic24]

also how do u disagree with a question? lmao i was looking for an answer. the people on this website... smh

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Pretty much the same reason Gabe Newell said Portal 2 will be best on PS3. They can have it go through Steam because PS3 is more open.

[N4GAddict]

This policy might end up hurting Microsoft more and more in the future.

[Bellcross]

I'm kinda surprised even with FFXI being on the 360, Live still pose a problem for SE I guess if you want to play FFXIV its PS3 or PC then.

[acere]

"The PS3 is kind of like a sports car that’s very high-performance and specific in its usage, whereas the 360 is more like a car that everybody’s driving. It doesn’t have the same range as a sports car, but it has more versatility."

[NicSage]

MMOs

[MechaGear]

Maybe S-E should brush MS off when it comes to Versus XIII in return.

[awi5951]

I played FF 11 online on xbox square had a special deal with microsoft FF11 works with silver accounts you dont need gold i playd it for 2 months stright then i went to the fun MMO Wow because who wants to loose XP when you die. Because the monsters on FF 11 are cheap as hell they scan your bags i think and a monster that doesnt have poison attack will poison you ass and kill you before you can run back to camp. And i always find it funny they never poison me with i have ativenom i think the damn game scans your bags to )(&()&)(87 with you .

[Caffo01]

what a noob..

[skip2mylou]

ummm what are u talking about?

[ruiner4482]

lolwut? Hahahahaha monsters scan your bags!!! That is so awesome! Ya they would scan mah bags and hit me with all kinds of crazy shit regularly. Most of the time if you died it's because you did something stupid. Just be lucky this isn't EQ and you have to run back to your body to get your shit, it was hardcore back then.

[M4ndat0ry_1nstall]

Inb4 "the PC is gimping the PS3 version" and "I'll get the superior version on PC"

[skip2mylou]

inb4idiots oh wait im too late. whoever doesnt want FF14 on the 360 is dumb that would mean more people for the pc and ps3 to play with and against

[divideby0]

amazing how Shadowrun was touted by MS as X platform play.
now its more evident that the PS3 is the console for X platform play..

[Cajun Chicken]

Super obvious. Do you really think that people would pay 2 fees to play a game online, let alone the internet bills anyway?

Sort it out MS. Denying yourself from everything more everyday. Can't have any LBP-alike because of not being able to share levels or play online...without XBL Gold, can't have Steam, because of XBL Gold, can't have iPlayer, because of BBC services being free in the UK due to the cost of the TV licence, can't have MMO's because of the closed, charged network. Whoopee. Portals to services you already subsrcibed for or otherwise free. Seriously, sort it out.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I can't wait to start leveling in this game with my buddies. Thank god the PlayOnline system is done for!

[N4GAddict]

I'm glad SE got rid of it.

[The Milkman]

You guys asking "who would play an MMO on top of xbox live service" are misinformed. I play FFXI on Xbox 360 and no you do not have to pay for xbox live gold to play that game online.

[Caffo01]

it has already been answered..FFXI came out before MS changed his online policy...now they want you to pay gold even for MMOs and SE knows that would stop a lot of ppl from playing the game...

[Jeff-Ryan]

greedy Microsoft wants more money from Square Enix and more SUCK suck

[A LIVING LEGEND]

I think it is perhaps better this way.Make of it what you will.

[Sigh]

the disadvantage of LIVE. You win some and lose some.

[jalen247]

No wonder all the announced Xbox 360 MMOs never seem to come out.