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Sony Failed To Get People Talking About Move. Have Some Statistics.

Nukezilla took a look at all the coverage the big three got during the E3 week, and the results don't look good for Sony.

"Interesting, to me at least, is how Nintendo got nearly as much coverage as Sony and Microsoft combined (Nintendo were mentioned in the titles of 142 posts, while Microsoft and Sony were in 91 and 89 respectively). Nintendo had far more articles written about their press conference than either of the other two, and during the rest of the week they consistently held the fictional “most discussed company” spot."

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HBandell5073d ago

While it isn't stone-cold fact, it's certainly hard evidence to suggest that Sony's huge focus on Move for a lot of their conference didn't sit well with its audience expecting a slew of games...

sikbeta5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

It's pretty much what Sony Do always, they make an ADD-ON, then Support it but never get a "core" status or take it like Something as important as the Console in first Place, If They want to Promote Move, they can make a PS3 Bundle replacing the DS3 and putting the Move as Standard, that's the best way to do it IMO, but there is nothing suggesting that, They'll Rely More in the Coca-Cola Deals and such...

Edit:

WTH with disagrees, did I say something Bad about the Device? No, I'm just saying that Sony is giving people an option rather to Tell them that they Need to go Buy it Right Now with Loads of advertising and such....

@Colonel-Killzone

That's True, but take in consideration the [IF] in my first Sentence, I'm not saying it's necessary, I'm saying that [IF] Sony want to make the Device more "important" they should do that, it's more than obvious that They were thinking and taking in consideration that Option before me, but as Always Sony Give The you OPTION Rather than FORCE you, that's why they have a Deal with Coca-cola, that's a Great Support...

Colonel-Killzone5073d ago

HELL NO. MOVE should be a optional thing. Especially where move doesn't work for all games replacing the DS3 thats a stupid move. If anything just include them both but never make it mandatory in some bundles.

whizyup5073d ago

Yeah. People already know how to play PS3 games, so stick a move in there and let them play PS3 games. Why take away the DS3??

ViciousBoston5073d ago

um, they did replace the DS3 with a move controller in a bundle. Did you watch E3?

NecrumSlavery5073d ago

Move is why we don't have to settle for Standard Definition anymore. ie dead Space Extraction. and yes Move is very noticed. They showed more Core games with it than casual. I'm waiting impatiently for Epic Mickey HD to hit PS3 next year.

sikbeta5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

@ViciousBoston

That's the Move Bundle, I was talking about something like the wii, making the Move Standard and taking the DS3 as an Option...

Forget about my first Comment, you didn't get What I wanted to say and that's because it seems like I didn't express Myself Clearly...

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Guys, I wasn't Trolling, I'll buy Move cos I like the thing and it's proven that It can Work Great with Every Game, I wanted to point out something given the "motion-race" going on right now with loads of article "guestimating" winners and sales or crap like that...

Snoogins5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

We knew what to expect from Move, especially seeing some of its product during GDC. It showed up at E3 and proved itself effective, precise, and with little to no lag (you'll get there, Tiger Woods). The press loved it. Similar to what we've seen to a Wii-mote, but on steroids. Nothing more needed to be said.

Microsoft made big promises for this past E3, and all eyes were on the hyped Kinect. Old concept, new tech, promising unseen experiences. It was the toast, the main thing to talk about, and not necessarily for a good reason. We all saw how laggy Kinect is. So did the negative press (not just independent bloggers, but respectable journalists as well). Other than the typical Microsoft PR, the first-party dev fluff and the traditional CliffyB cheerleading, hardly anything good was said about it. Personally, Kinect shows promise (and limitation), and if they can ever fix the lag problems that have existed since ground zero, they might have something special.

TL:DR - Move speaks for itself, familar concept, knew what to expect, not much more needing be said; Kinect rode on an ocean of hype and crashed down in disappointment, internet and media exploded discussing said disappointment.

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- Ghost of Sparta -5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

@ bigwheel: My comment is factual. No point in picking out the negative ones, they all are.

Your comment is butthurt and worthless.

hybridtheory125073d ago

Ghost's comment was ON TOPIC. On topic of the above comments to be exact. so idk y u r reporting

darthv725073d ago

Would this type of motion control been possible using the existing sixaxis with a plug on ball type of device?

It might have looked a bit strange but it certainly seems more cost effective. Everyone who has a ps3 has a motion controller and with the little ball and the camera it should have been able to achieve the same effect.

They could also have been able to bundle in the little usb ball with every system like nintendo does with the chuck and the wii controller.

Maybe they did try it that way first and then decided to settle on a fully independent wand style. Just a thought.

Aquanox5073d ago

@ Ghost Sparta,

I'm surprised how your posts hasn't been reported as trolling but what your link demonstrate is that Kinect has been successful enough to make the boys go rampant on damage control mode, finding every bit of non-positive text around the net to pretend it wasn't.

I don't really see many people excited about Move and that's because the technology has been around and working for 4 years now. This is just a minor improvement over WiiMote Plus and the only way Sony could get people excited about it is software, which so far, has been limited to very short demos. If Sony manages to creat a nitch of move controlled games appealing to either hardcore or causals, then maybe it will become a major hit but they will always be compared to Nintendo's titles and charisma. On the other hand, Microsoft is trying to open a new window in gaming with control-less gameplay and while it's still a technology in development it has the potential to differentiate itself enough to NOT be compared to Nintendo and have a target market on its own, which is way more smart but also much more difficult to achieve and risky.

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kissmeimgreek5073d ago

i think there biggest obstacle is going to be marketing and supporting 3D and Move at the same time.

STONEY45073d ago

Move wasn't a huge focus, it was the topic for about 20 minutes of the conference. Now Microsoft, more than an hour was devoted to Kinect, and almost everyone can agree the conference was just awful.

Christopher5073d ago

Soo... 100 articles on people complaining about how Kinect isn't for core gamers is better than 10 articles on people talking about the features of Move we've known for the last six months?

Not very worthwhile statistics...

raztad5073d ago

You speak the true my friend.

Most articles about Kinect were stating how disappointing the device was. If I was Sony I wouldn't want that kind of publicity.

nnotdead5073d ago

about time someone speaks the truth. i have no idea how well anything is going to sell, but the whole tracking thing seems flawed and untrustworthy.

rkimoto5073d ago

I would have been more interested in seeing statistics of who gathered the most positive coverage on the different companies' products.

This doesn't tell me much, unless you're one of those that think that "any publicity is good publicity"... I'm not in that group. I'm pretty sure there are more articles about the Twilight movie stars than about Meryl Streep or Russell Crowe, et al.

Chaos695073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

Lolipos have sold billions and MOVE looks like a lolipop so people are gonna go crazy over that.

Cueil5073d ago

at least until the Owl shows up

nycredude5073d ago

HBandell
You guys make it sound like it's a bad thing they aren't pushing the move like it's the next best thing in gaming, like MS is doing with Natal.

You also make it sound like there is no games or something. I expect games from Sony and they haven't disappointed. I am glad they haven't lost their focus and will continue to provide awesome games for us.

I am not talking about Move cause I already know I will pick it up so I'll check it out when I get it. It is to me just an add on, and I will treat it as such. Those thinking MOve and/or Natal will revolutionize gaming are just dreaming.

Inside_out5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

M$ is the only guys doing anything new. Once something like Milo and a couple of other titles hit mainstream, it will be Sony WHO and Nintendo WHAT??? Milo was playable behind close doors to a very select few. Peter Molyneux says it's 10x more impressive than last E3....REALLY???

M$ since E3 have started to push the new 360 with many adverts, as November nears, they will start a hard push for all things 360 and Kinect including a rumored new 360 bundle with, yes, another new 360 console.

Sony will have alot more to say at GDC. Right now, they are pushing 3D and surprisingly, that crappy Mod racers I've seen on commercials. Sony needs a head shake. The Nintendo 3DS seems to have caught them by surprise and now they are running around like a chicken without a head...Sony, they only do everything including PANIC.

BTW...that's funny Sparta, how you think N4G is the ONLY media. The article went right over the PS3 guys heads.

JsonHenry5073d ago

No one is talking about it because 90% of the news sites are complaining about Kinetic instead!

sinncross5073d ago

Sony's huge focus on Move for a lot of their conference?

Did you even watch it? I'm going to guess no because the Move showing was like a fraction of their entire conference.

captain-obvious5073d ago

ummm ??
the fuck are those graphs ???
they looks like they were made by some kid

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Nike5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

That Kinect and 360 are so high on the "console names" and "main announcement" in terms of sheer volume of coverage, is because of a large amount of negative coverage. Which wasn't just confined to reactions towards the device - many stories about Kinect criticized the presentation of it's main conference, along with devoting 2/3rds of the Microsoft conference to Kinect. So while there many be a lot of coverage for it, we can't assume it's all sunshine and lolipops.

Theonik5073d ago

Agreed. in addition to that MS paid-off mainstream news sources to get natal featured everywhere. Here where i live we rarely get game adds let alone have something game related on the news.

Mahr5073d ago

"So while there many be a lot of coverage for it, we can't assume it's all sunshine and lolipops."

That may very well be true, but are you familiar with the phrase 'There is no such thing as bad publicity'?

005073d ago

I love meself some statistics.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5073d ago (Edited 5073d ago )

''Sony didn’t do quite as well as many were expecting, at least as far as quantity of coverage goes.''

Lol at that statement.

sikbeta5073d ago

lol indeed, WTF that's suppose to mean anyway...

Nike5073d ago

You know what they say: Quantity beats quality every day. /s

Seriously, having good coverage over the majority of stories - even if the total number of stories is less - is better than having bad coverage over the majority - with the total number of stories being very high (because we all like to pick us some bones).

Baba19065073d ago

we are not humans, we are dancers!

Anyway im kinda excited for the ps3 move controller. i dont see the problem. i allways wanted to have motion controller on may ps3 that works. so yay.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk775h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE2h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7302h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 20h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 12h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 11h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 10h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 14h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 9h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 5h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 5h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 18h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 12h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 9h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 12h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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