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Metal Gear Solid Rising: Is this a Metal Gear game anymore?

Metal Gear Solid Rising's unveiling during E3 2010 has received plenty of uncertainly from purists who complain that the game takes away from the series' stealth focus. The Kartel analyzes the newly unveiled gameplay and its new take on revamping the game's new protagonist, Raiden.

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Donny5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

I love """STEALTH" ;"" in metal gear, so for me no.

Kamikaze1355077d ago

It's a Metal Gear Solid game whether you like it or not.

EvilBlackCat5077d ago

i'm impressed by the hypocrisy of the PS3 loyalist dumb masses here they just put the word hypocrisy in another lever now i just consider that word an insult/curse from now on.

How is this game not a metal gear game?

well that mean this one isnt either
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I just love how the dude make the voice acting! lol

soul899er5077d ago

Uh oh EvilBlackCat... That is suicide, now you did it :( why you talking garbage

Insomnia_845077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

Want to see what a REAL Metal Gear game is?? Go pick up METAL GEAR SOLID: PEACE WALKER!! that game is f***ing AWESOME!! BIG! HUGE!! ADDICTIVE!!! you name it... The demo didn't convince me, what did? The IGN review of the game and it IS as big and great as they said, METAL GEAR SOLID 5. My best PSP game was GOW: Chains Of Olympus but now that's changed, Peace Walker goes first then GOW:COO.

BTW I got my copy of Peace Walker and MGS4 signed by Hideo Kojima!! ;D
Just wanted to share that bit of excitement with you people.

Ad Hoc Party? PSN ID: INSOMNIA_84

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5077d ago

Or a traditional one anyway. MGS is a stealth game. Rising is a hack in slash with SOME stealth elements. Most of all Kojima didnt create the concept for the game. Thats proof enough. Still should be fun though. Hope it has move support.

badz1495077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

but not Kojima's MGS! Kojima's new MGS lies in the form of Peace Walker on the PSP! but seriously we can't expect Rising to be the same as the other MGS due the fact that the main protagonist is Raiden and he's never about stealth from the beginning! if they change Snake into something else...then I'll be pissed! but Rising is about Raiden and is fine the way it is!

beardpapa5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

calling rising a true metal gear game instead of calling it a spinoff is foolish. it's like saying dirge of cerberus is a real ff (or ff7 if you want to go specific) game.

a spin off is a spin off. a spin off may use the name, but it is not true to its origin.

villevalorox5077d ago

So if the next Gears Of War featured Hello Kitty shooting people in the foot with a spit ball, it still would be gears of war because of the name? I think not.

Is this a Metal Gear Solid title- HELL 2 the NO, if "Solid" Snake is not the main man in this game then I think not.

Is this a Metal Gear title - that depends on how loyal it is to the franchise, in most peoples eyes.

Heisenberg5077d ago

All you do is complain. If you hate it here so much, piss off. The point of the question is essentially to say: Is this like the many Metal Gear games we know and love? Is it comprised of the same elements and style that made the previous games in the series successful? These are legitimate questions, and it doesn't make one a fanboy to ask them.

DigitalAnalog5077d ago

4 words..

NOT.DEVELOPED.BY.KOJIMA.

-End statement

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Tony-A5077d ago

I made my own little nickname for this game.

I call it "Ninja Raiden" because it reminds me a bit too much of Ninja Gaiden.

ZombieAutopsy5077d ago

Ha, bubbles for you...even though i'm loooking forward to the game.

Boody-Bandit5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

That is exactly what I was going to come in here and call it (Ninja Raiden) when I saw the title to the article. I am holding off hope it will still be a great game but this looks like East meets West. Almost like they are trying to appease the NA audience. I just hope it has a good story with compelling game play but after watching the trailer my confidence is a little shaken.

Spenok5077d ago

Thats a good one. The the game doesnt look nearly as fast as Ninja Gaiden. And not to mention the precise slicing feature is very similar (if not a down right copy) of Afro Samurai's cutting.

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Christopher5077d ago

Is Super Mario Kart still a Super Mario game?

Leucitanious5077d ago

No. It's a kart racing game using the characters from the super mario universe. It's not centralised around Mario, specifically. So no it's not.

Maybe if this is centralised around Metal Gears, then it can get away with being called Metal Gear. A big part of Metal Gears story is supposed to be, the mechs. I think people forget that, I think 4 kinda forgot that a bit too but nevermind.

Gue15077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

No Kojima, no long cut-scenes, no stealth, no Snake vs Liquid/Acelot, etc., etc.

This new chapter is more about Raiden himself than the conflict presented in prior games, that's why it's called a spin-off. The story that will be told in Rising is not necessary for anything else than to explain why Raiden has become a Cyborg Ninja, not relevant to the other chapters cus half of the Raiden story was told in MGS4 anyway. At least the important parts (not the details).

This will be a great game for newcomers and for others that didn't even care for MGS in the first place but that like the action nature of it. To understand it you don't even have to know who the heck is Snake or what has happened in the MGS universe cus this is the story of Raiden... Maybe some cameos and certain elements from other games will be included for the sake of a continuation and fan service but Rising's a MGS game only in essence. Raiden is not even particularly important to the story of MGS like it is the other Snakes but because many people found him cool in MGS4 then now he has his own game just like Roxas from Kingdom Hearts and his irrelevant story with Organization VIII (spin-off).

Darkfiber5077d ago

Pretty sure they said there would be stealth... Stop dissuading people, Donny. You know not of what you speak. Basing your entire perception of a game off a 1 minute trailer is just straight up ignorant. Surely you can even agree with that, right?

nan05077d ago

Eh.

It looks good but I don't know why Raiden has to look like Lady Gaga.

Tons of games are coming out, this and AC brotherhood are teh only two games that look good enough to bother with.

ThanatosDMC5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

Metal Gear also usually includes a giant machine that has nuke capabilities. I cant imagine Raiden having to deal with anybody outside of the four snakes. Raiden isnt important enough for the Patriots.

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Demons Souls5077d ago

It's a spinoff which will be some mediocre hack & slash game that's using the metal gear name to sell. Kojima also isn't directing it meaning the story will be nothing more than a fanfic. I don't even consider this a metal gear game because if I did then I would play it like the others but this game will be skipped by me. I don't care for emo's that wanna play ninja.

mikepmcc5077d ago

Do you even know what a "hack and slash" game is? Just because a game has swords doesn't mean it's a "hack and slash", which is basically a brawler.

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Hallmark Moment5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

From what the devs said it is Metal Gear with modern next gen gameplay and mechanics. Real physics, next gen fighting, better graphics, still has stealth(obviously being a Ninja LOL) with no stupid symbol prompts overhead displaying Mood, Emotion and Intentions. SOLD

I'm guessing some will say no due to this being multi platform being shown for the first time on the competition's platform angry Sony/PS3 didn't get special treatment.

Unicron5077d ago

I'd love to know what "next gen fighting" is...

Whoooop5077d ago

If you could peek inside the head of a 360 fanboy you would be amazed at what their definition of next gen fighting is.

;)

ThanatosDMC5077d ago (Edited 5077d ago )

He's not a ninja. Raiden refers to himself as a Scout.

But the game itself seems would be really fun with the Move. I better be able to make circles out of the bodies like in the movie Kung Pow.

koehler835077d ago

I'll decide when I play it. It certainly looks fun, regardless.

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Short documentary talks about the cancelled Metal Gear Solid games and concepts

Youtube channel GVMERS has released an interesting video chronicling the various Metal gear concepts and ideas that were cancelled or scrapped during production. In the 17 minute documentary they talk about the Metal Gear Solid port for Game.Com, the cancelled Metal Gear Solid: Rising concept, and ideas that were cut from Metal Gear Solid 2, among other things.

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ccgr2417d ago

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Nyxus2417d ago

No problem! Yeah it's a well made video.

TheVetOfGaming2417d ago

Interesting, although, I already knew most of what was on here. I just wish Kojima had the rights to the franchise. The saga has left with a whimper instead of a bang.

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Top 5 Politicians in Video Games That Are Worse Than Donald Trump | Goomba Stomp

President Trump took office around a week ago and in that time a new global trend has emerged - doing a quick search on Google News for "Donald Trump" a couple of times a day just to see what the massive, bejowelled, orange-faced troglodyte has done this time.

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skydragoonityx2662d ago

i doubt any game character can be worse than this man.

IAmLoki2662d ago

Oh come on he really isn't half as bad as the haters claim. He is actually the best president for USA in decades.

Gazondaily2662d ago

"He is actually the best president for USA in decades."

😂😂😂

kneon2662d ago

You forgot the /s at the end, people might think you're serious and then worry about your mental well being.

_-EDMIX-_2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

forgot the /s

BizarroUltraman62662d ago

I know Im gonna get disagrees but Ive lived thru 7 presidents. Trump is the worst and he just started. Lol..

Paytaa2661d ago

He makes GWB seem like a saint. That's a hard feat. Bravo Trump.

Erik73572661d ago

People use to have more support for Donald on here, was almost half and half...not anymore lol...people we're like "Ohh he wont do that he just said that in his camapign, he wont actually go through with building a wall and banning muslims noooo"

Utalkin2me2661d ago

@Erik7357

Obama banned mulsims too? So whats you point. It all of the sudden tpeople have a opinion on it due to not liking trump. But didn't care when Obama did it in 2011. Liberal Hypocrites.

ravinash2661d ago

He's been in barely a week, and all he does is create policies that give the appearance that he's doing something to please the people that voted for him. Nothing that is actually effective mind you.
He promises to build a wall, says Mexico has to pay for it - Mexico says it won't pay for it = no wall.
Even if the wall was built, if people are determined to get in, they will either climb or tunnel through, so the wall is completely pointless.

Then the ban on people from 6 Muslim countries. Basically creates a lot of hardship for innocent people (a lot of whom are american) because it's stopping families from being together.
And again it's ineffective because if someone really wants to get in (fake passport or go through one of those tunnels under the wall), then they will.
Even if they didn't, most of the attacks these days have been brainwashed people who were already living in America.

This just shows a president who is more concerned with the appearance they give rather than creating an actual thought out action plan to make the world a better place.

JunMei2661d ago

I'm not sure if he's serious or not. Needless to say, any time a country tries to make things overwhelmingly in its favor, making things unfair for everyone else, that's when countries stop doing business with that country. Which then causes exports from that country to falter, since it loses out on trade.

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crazychris41242662d ago

Do we really need Buzzfeed like articles now?? This site is supposed to be an escape from the US presidential fighting of the past 2 years. This is not the n4g I know and love.

The n4g I know is us fighting over review scores, consoles, handhelds, exclusives and PC.

Bathyj2662d ago

Agreed. I wonder where all these people complaining about Trump were on voting day.

81BX2662d ago

I was voting for hillary

zidane13412661d ago

Probably sitting at home thinking that there was no way trump had a chance in hell?

Themba762661d ago

My area stayed blue the dc area it's those red stated you should worry about

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Paytaa2661d ago

Is Xbox irrelevant? Will Playstation fail? Is Nintendo DOOMED? Find out tomorrow on N4G.

REDDURT2661d ago

Kinda easy to say right now till we as gamers start seeing import taxes on top of consoles. In the States

ravinash2661d ago

I want to hear about the PC master race again!

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Number-Nine2662d ago

Just what I want to see. N4G and political articles

Gazondaily2661d ago

The perfect recipe for productive debate and discussion 😆

sher123win1232662d ago

Who ever post this sh!t should be band, political articles should not be allowed in the gaming websites...

GOODKylePS2661d ago

what if they don't know how to play a musical instrument?

sliggio322661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

No one is worse than that mother fucker.

zidane13412661d ago

Because Hillary is a racist, sexist asshole with 0 experience and constantly shits on her own country over twitter. Oh wait

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JohnathanACE2661d ago

@zidane1341

No, she's just a criminal which is totally fine.
Oh wait

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The most promising games that never saw a release

VGS: 'Part of the excitement in gaming comes from watching a game be unveiled, following its news updates and eagerly awaiting the day of release. But there are times when it never gets to that final part. Either the game is cancelled, put on hold indefinitely, or becomes ‘vaporware’ - meaning, we simply never hear from it again. Here are some games that never saw a release, but that did look rather promising.'

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Agent20093855d ago

I'm still disgruntled by Kojima's decision to cancel the original Metal Gear Solid: Rising's concept. It was absolutely ambitious: an open world stealth slasher with an ability to cut literally everything to make your way through... without enemy's notice.

I guess it was just too beautiful to happen.

Nyxus3855d ago

Yeah the idea was very cool but they just couldn't get the concept together. It's a shame but maybe they will do something with the material they have some day.

-Foxtrot3855d ago

I know right, in my opinion the game we got was horrible compared to what could of been. The Rising game we got seemed out of place for being a MGS game even despite being a spin off.

Eight Days hopefully will make it's way to the PS4 one day, the gameplay back in 2006 looked amazing. Imagine what it will look like now

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3855d ago

Rising is actually canon. LOL

Also, although it seems out of place. It was by no means a bad game. Terrible story, but gameplay was AMAZING.

-Foxtrot3855d ago

Get out...really, it's now cannon

I thought Kojima said it was a non cannon spin off...christ sake <sigh>

Dagobert3855d ago

I was seriously looking forward to Konami's MGS Rising. That was supposed to be an actual prequel to MGS4 where the storyline made sense. The new one just sucked honestly, it would have made a great Bayonetta game where gameplay is fun and storyline is just stupid.

zeal0us3855d ago

Blame the development for not being able to get the action and stealth element together.

ChipChipperson3855d ago (Edited 3855d ago )

The original concept for Rising definitely looked way better. It just had that swiftness and accuracy to the whole cutting mechanic. There was a certain, I suppose, elegance and finesse to the way they had Raiden move and how he fought. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Revengeance for what it was, but I was really looking forward to what Kojima Productions was going for, both gameplay wise and story wise. Who knows, maybe one day they will use concept for a new Rising game that is made by Kojima Productions or possibly a new IP from them.

Nyxus3855d ago

I agree, while I did enjoy MG Rising, the previous concept did look and sound intriguing, and I was interested in that story focusing on Raiden's transition to cyborg ninja.

Murad3855d ago

I totally agree with your statement, but now that I'm thinking about it, if he did do it, it would be very difficult in terms of programming. The reason why is because every time, let's say hypothetically, Raiden cut something, that dataStructure would have to look completely different, or disappear and be replaced, there would be far too much to necessary power to be put on different systems, I believe, unless I'm thinking of programming this game completely the wrong way.

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FullmetalAlchemist3855d ago

Trigun for the PS2, was so sad when I heard it got canceled.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

ZBlacktt3855d ago (Edited 3855d ago )

And when I was saying this spin off game was going to do so poorly long before it came out. People just clicked disagree, lol. I know the gaming market. :cool:

Same with MGS5. People will buy it for sure. But it won't have the impact MGS4 did. More so changing out David Hayter for no real reason at all. But more for a personal one of Kojima's. Many diehards did not like that at all!

A lot of the games history died in MGS4. Now it's become just some game. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

TheDivine3855d ago

Idk I really didnt care for MGS4, it was too action focused, stealth meant nothing, the story was horrendous, along with many other things like lack of memorable boss fights. Still, MGS is as awesome to me as always. The game didnt live up to snakes last mission in my eyes but it was still a good game. The series is still amazing for sure.

I do agree axing David Hayter was a HORRIBLE thing to do. He is Snake. The series is def going more TPS and mainstream. I'm worried how Kojima will manage to keep it stealthy in an open world setting. I have my worries but Kojima has delivered time and time again so I will trust him and hope he makes me feel like a fool for doubting him lol.

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NarcolepZZZZZZ3855d ago

I thought "Huxley" would have made the list.

NarcolepZZZZZZ3855d ago

Also I want shenmue 3 dammit! I need closure!

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