Just When I Thought I Was Out...These Shooters Pull Me Back In

Bitmob's Dan "Shoe" Hsu has seen way, way too many shooters at E3 to the point where he's pretty sick of them now. But...can these famous franchises keep him interested?

[Cyan8313]

Ghost Recon Future Soldier. It looks more fresh, innovative and cool then either Halo, GoW or CoD (imho).

[BeaArthur]

Technically (like Gears 3) Ghost Recon isn't a shooter. I believe it falls under the action adventure genre.

[DigitalRaptor]

I would describe Ghost Recon as a tactical action shooter.

Those aren't really adventure games so you can't really call them action adventure. Gears 3 is a third person shooter. You can call it an action game, but there's not really much about it that makes it adventure.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Anything that progresses a game through shooting a projectile outward is a shooter. Why do you think "Shmups" are "Shmups"?

[BeaArthur]

So that would mean Mass Effect is a shooter and not an RPG? I get what you are saying but this is why there is a specific classification system for games. So that everything with a projectile isn't classified in the same category.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

It depends on which ME you're talking about, lol. You can call it a hybrid, but leaving out "shooter" in the sense you described in your first comment is not all that accurate if you ask me.

[outrageous]

Since nobody mentioned it, I'll offer up Bulletstorm. I thought they had a great E3. INCREDIBLE graphics and action in that game.

Gears 3, Halo Reach, KZ 3, and Ghost Recon round out the top 5.

[ABizzel1]

Ghost Recon did nothing for me, I was never a fan of the series, and Call of Duty's in the same boat.

Medal of Honor looks great, but it looks like another Call of Duty.

I like fictional shooters like Killzone and Gears which is why those are the 2 I'm looking forward to the most.

Halo Reach looks a lot better than the previous games, and it may be the first Halo I actually enjoy since the first game.

Also looking forwars to Starhawk, Left 4 Dead 3, and Uncharted 3 (their prequels are 3 of my most played and enjoyed games)

[whydoyouask]

If their good games who cares?

[BeaArthur]

Agreed, I don't ever try to "get out of a genre". I play good games no matter what genre they are in as long as they appeal to me.

[UnSelf]

we need more open world genres

its no coincidence that Crackdown and Prototype are amongst my fav games of all time.

Who doesnt want the ability to do anything anywhere at anytime?? Isnt that what video games are all about? essentially speaking?

Not to go on a rant but while growing up and tryna to peek into the future of games, i always thought games'll be refined down to about just a few major master genres like:

-Sports
-Racing
-Action
-Adventure and
-Fighting

Seriously. By this time i thought all games would be open world or in other words, open world would kinda be a pre-requisite or the blank palette that all devs would build their games on.

You can implement any and all of those subtle niches that now forces the gaming industry to separate games by genre.

An open world game can have chapters. it can be linear. it can have RPG elements. It can have a FPS mode. A TPS. An OTS view. Multiplayer. Horror. Just about any element that these other genres sport all infused in one.

The only thing separating the genres that i mentioned prior would be whether its just a full sports game. a full fighting game. a full action open world game. or a full adventure open world game. Any and all other genres not listed can be implemented into one open world game. GTA: San Andreas proved that and look at the praise that game receives(d)

Even now, in games such as Crackdown....you can level up (RPG). You can race (Racing). You can fight each other (Fighting, TPS Shooter). You can fight online (Online MP). You can walk around in FPS mode (FPS shooter). You can create your own lil games (PCS genre). Only thing that isnt there is MMO or Sports capabilities. And this is on a first gen 360 game!

Maybe im dreaming but that seems pretty logical if u ask me. It being pretty plausible is another thing

[STICKzophrenic]

The thing about open world games is the pacing. If a game is more linear, then the devs control the pacing and it keeps everything flowing together nicely.

I like open world games, they offer a lot of fun to do what you want, but games like Halo, Killzone, Call of Duty, Gears of War etc rely on pacing and story. You could have a great mission or set piece, and if it was an open world game, you might forget what led up to it because you spent so much time messing around in between.

[UnSelf]

good point.

but as of now that just happens to be a stagnant setback that plagues the openworld genre. Nothing that cant be fixed

Think what MM is doing wit LBP2. Theyre taking a game or rather a palette, which is what lbp2 is for me, and allowing us to make our own games within that said blank slate.

The Open World genre should become a new comtemprorary palette for all devs to build their games on. And then they can tweak it into which way they want.

And maybe once you finish the game the entire world opens up. How cool would it be if lets say once you finished MW, you're now able to traverse the entire game seamlessly playin new types of gameplay types

EDIT: But u do make a good point about set pieces. I guess this idea would only work in theory.

unless the devs found someway to restrict players to certain areas and not by just blocking off islands GTA style. Perhaps you can limit a characters capabilities etc, but if the character is smart enough he can still work his way around certain stuff but at the cost of a huge detrimental lost.

Its just like in real life. Sure i can get up now and fly to Colorado but yth and wth for?

In essence the dev can limit the character in a way lets say: Maybe he cant jump as high or climb as good or swim early in the game. But lets say he finds a way to do it anyway with the limited attributes he already has. Once he finds a way to lets say that foreign island or area, he wont be equipped well enough to survive.

so the idea can be to just limit a characters potential until he/she is well ready to go to that area. This has been tried in the past but never really enforced. These limitations can work well to implement vital setpieces to unfold.

A dev wants you to escape a collapsing building as a regular human? Than allow that setpiece to unfold early in the game.

A gamer might counter this technique by grinding. But the dev can counter skill grinding by allowing the character to only increase in level dependent upon where theyre at in the game, some invisible coding or in a myriad of other different ways.

[STICKzophrenic]

Apparently if you like playing shooters, you're immature.

I'm looking forward to a lot the shooters they showed.

Halo: Reach
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
Killzone 3
Gears of War 3
inFamous 2
Dead Space 2

I don't care if they're all shooters, each one offers something different and all play very differently (previous iterations at least).

[Sadie2100]

I'm excited for all those...except for Killzone 3...

[Tony P]

It really comes down to the fact that there are too many shooters this gen. It's the money genre so the market is clearly oversaturated.

Doesn't mean the games suck. It means what it means. There are a lot of them coming out too often and they tend to blend together after a while unless you're super hardcore about shooters.

[jagstatboy]

lots of shooters on the horizon:

Spec Ops: The Line, Brink, Rage, Bodycount, Bulletstorm, Crysis 2, Singularity, MoH, Dead Space 2, Killzone 3, SOCOM 4, F3AR, Quantum Theory, Mindjack, Max Payne 3, Red Faction Armageddon, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Deus Ex

[HaVoK308]

Sick of shooters? Here is a thought...dont play them. I happen to love shooters. There are genres are do not like and one of them is MMO. I dont whine around about MMOs. They are not even relevant to me. I could careless how many there are and how many people are playing them. Whining about shit you do not have to be part of is moronic to say the least.

[ATi_Elite]

I rather play STALKER First Person Role Playing Character Building Exploration Shooter

or HL2 First Person Puzzle Solving Action Adventure Shooter

ok ok they are shooters

BFBC2 Team Oriented Tactical First Person Objective Gaining Shoo... dang it.

[DigitalRaptor]

There are so many better and more original shooter games coming out than Gears 3, Halo Reach and the new CoD:

Medal of Honor, RAGE, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Killzone 3, Ghost Recon: Future Soldier, Brink.