Xbox 360 Slim Overheating Issues Already Discovered?

Gamer Syndrome: Images have been posted of an Xbox 360 Slim (which hasn't even been out for a week) suffering from the Red Dot of Death.

[Donny]

microsoft: facepalm.

[HarryM]

I just can't believe it's already happened. :S

[Redrum059]

i knew it.

atleast it shuts itself down before the heat destroys it completely.

[Consoldtobots]

what do you mean you "can't believe it"? With MS it's EXPECTED as they are completely incompetent designing hardware.

[No Way]

Eh, the first xbox was jus fine..
Seems they jus can't get it right, for the x360.

Every company has had their faults though.
Jus as long as MS figures this shit out for the 3rd.

[evrfighter]

that kinda happens to gaming systems when you wrap it in a blanket and continue to play it.

they should have waited a few months before they tried to kill the consoole. would have made it more believable.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Nothing's 100 fail-proof.

[ryuzu]

The first Xbox was also prone to failures - DVD went pretty quickly on mine (PS2 had similar problems, although my launch concosle never failed and is still working now).

r.

[hamoor]

thats proves nothing
i can wrap my ps3 till it YLOD then claiming its a fail hardware

[PhantomT1412]

Agreed. And that confirms I won't ever buy a Microsoft hardware again! My first Xbox was RRoD after 3 months. It's my second one (that's still not too much compared to some who are at their third or fourth), and this one is making atrocious vent noises, damn, it's like I was in an airplane. I also got a controller battery down, along with my wireless headset and wireless game reciever for PC.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I don't understand why I get disagrees - I'm stating a simple fact. Nothing's ever 100% fail proof.

Fanboys can take it to mean RROD is never truly gone, or that this one instance is meaningless, because some errors can be expected.

[kewlkat007]

is correct, regardless your always going to have some failures, my PS3's Laser died before my Falcon 360 did and we know all the Fat PS3 are in danger.

Besides, a manufacturer making something 100% failprrof, well that will never happen but keep failures low enough so it's not a recall(Not sure how MS escaped that one with the Original 360 Skus) but anyhow a percentage of failure is probably accepted within manufacturing.

You know the only problem I have had this generation with consoles have been my Wii(Sent back twice for Graphic card causing streaking lines errors) and my PS3 Laser will no longer read anything I throw at it, all the sudden.(did some research its well known, beware of your FAT PS3))

In this case who knows the environment or how this 360 was treated. The system does what it's suppose to without proper ventilation. That's like a computer shutting down if the CPU gets too hot.

[Why o why]

you're unlucky with consoles.

[danielle007]

You kids are silly gooses.. geese. whatever. Silly. With the new arcades and elites, I haven't heard of a single RROD. I work at GameStop, and I really would have. People, especially parents, always come to us when there's any problems first before doing other junk. The only RRODs I hear about anymore is if someone plays russian roulette and buys a used 360, which we always warn people against, because they tend to be older ones.

But, anyways, it would be super easy to buy a slim, wrap it in a towel, and make this happen, especially since it didn't even kill it, apparently, since the message said that it was powering down and junk, but you can turn it back on later. The slim has huge vents, that the arcades and elites don't even have. I can't see this as being from normal circumstances. If I was a dbag, I could go wrap my PS3 in a towel, too. and be like OHEMGEE YLODYLOD IT'S MELTINGG. WHAT A WORLD.. would that prove anything? No. Not quite. Just like this doesn't actually prove anything.

Except it proves that M$ did put those sensors in and that when it gets too hot it'll shut down to protect it, just incase. I think that's showing that they own up to their past problems, and they're doing something about it. It's actually pretty awesome.

[FragMnTagM]

Where that console is at is a really bad spot. I wouldn't stick any high end electronics in an entertainment center. I have both my PS3 slim and the 360 slim in a well ventilated area. Only retards would put their console in a spot like that.

Edit: Well said danielle007 +bubs.

[Boody-Bandit]

That is plenty of space for a 360 to get ventilation. It's not like the shelf above only has a couple inch clearance. My audio rack that houses 7500 watts of amplification, a sound processor, satellite receiver, BluRay player, and 2 gaming consoles, has never had any issues and it has a 2" clearance height for each unit.

Now my audio cabinet is climate controlled by do you have any idea what a 2k watt speaker amp puts out and one stacked over another plus all that other equipment?

Whether or not this article is true does not excuse the fact that this problem should have never existed at this high a level of failure rate. Each revision from MS reduced the level of failure but I myself will wait and see if it is finally to acceptable rates of below 3%. I am not overly confident it is.

I have had 360 units fail on me sitting by itself on a completely open ended entertainment cabinet with rubber risers (feet) under neath it for added clearance height. This new unit would be best served if it was positioned upright by that isn't feasible for all people. Stop trying to act like it's the fault of the user / consumer. This is on MS.

MS has had 5 years to get the 360 right. Only time will tell if this is a fanboy scam or reality. MS added a sticker saying don't move the unit while there is a disc in the tray and powered on. Maybe they should add a unit clearance spec sticker as well.

[morganfell]

@ryuzu - The infamous Thompson Drive.

@danielle - Putting sensors in the unit isn't fixing the problem. In fact, if they can get the unit to shut down it only stops Microsoft from actually having to pay money to fix the unit. "Your unit isn't defective, it is simply protecting itself."

Pawning this off like it is an additional feature is absurd. As someone that is on their 5th and final 360 I am not surprised by this level of incompetence. An incompetence that should in no way be rewarded.

If your mechanic only put one lug nut on your car's tire but also arranged for the car to come to a stop before the tire fell off would you consider that engineering worthy of praise? Of course not. Like the first 360 it is no surprise MS failed to properly test a design. The same level of heat placed in a smaller area will actually raised the temperature. Now MS says this 360 is quieter. Oh great, lower fan RPMs. Just what the 360 needs.

There are consoles that can take it, http://www.ps3vault.com/how... and consoles that can't.

[EvilBlackCat]

maybe

PAY ATTENTION to this images

http://blog.gsmarena.com/pi...
http://www.gadgetreview.com...

Also look at this famous video
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Where is the white xbox360 name in the disc tray?

where this guy bought his slim? in china?

well who moves a console while is playing a game anyway right?

ANYWAY CHECK THIS IMAGE

http://gamersyndrome.com/wp...

FAKE 360s ? maybe?

time will tell

[HolyOrangeCows]

well that's what happens when you stick to problematic design choices like the inclusion of the dreaded X-clamp.

[bioshock1221]

I agree with @Danielle007 I just bought a new Xbox 360 slim and they never get hot at all. It's always cold compare to my old elite which use to get hot on the sides, the new xbox 360 pushes a lot of hot air out but I guess that is a good thing because instead of keeping it in it pushes it out. It also never gets hot on the sides.

I knew someone would get one and probably force it to RROD and then post it in some forum and try to make a big deal about it. Especially someone from neogaf. Just look at how the guy responded laughing about it. If it was true he would be mad not laughing.

[Gamerbee]

Every bot has come to defend the honor!!

Excuses like
WHo moves their console anyway?
How is this a bad thing?
Everything has a fault!

Tsk tsk tsk..Just face it. One week & its already faulty. The entire Xbox generation is just a cheap POS. Face it.PS3 is quality gaming. Both hardware & software. Best games. Best Console.

That is all.

[ThanatosDMC]

^ Wow, I just saw that "dont do that" video. It sounded really bad and he just slightly tilted the console too.

Also, the RDOD (Red Dot of Death) may have been on purpose... at least 360 gamers should hope it was on purpose or they'll be spending some weeks not playing again.

[Deathracer]

Is an error message popping up telling you your system is going to shut down so it doesn't overheat and break a bad thing. I sure as hell would love my system to tell me when its about to over heat so it doesn't shit out on me.

Pics mean nothing when it comes to overheating because no one knows the persons environment and how ventilated that area really is. Now if it was to actually RDOD and break, then that's a different story.

EDIT: Look at his damn entertainment stand, its dusty and nasty as hell no wounder the thing over heated. I could write a paragraph within the dust on that stand.

[HarryM]

That's true. The person could of rapped it with anything and kept it on for days.. Who know..

[Bobbykotickrulesz]

Yes. They spent 300 dollars on a console so they could prove points to fanboys online?

What a stupid thing to say. Sounds like something one of you would do though.

Clearly the system is faulty.

[mynd]

Form the article -
“Red Dot of Death”- It’s the same as the Red Ring of Death

Uh, no, no its not, if this system overheats and tell you its shutting down that thermal protection, not a RROD.

Rather red than Dead.

More informaiton if required regarding this system, hell it could be just be a stuck fan.

[TengkuAmir10]

Blame anything you can fanboy. It ain't working. I put my PS3 and it collects a lot of dust along with my 360 Elite(which isn't dead yet) and yet, they don't die or do anything weird. 360 is crappy (as in hardware fails a lot) accept that. Convincing yourself can only change what your mind accepts not the reality of it. Luckily, I haven't bought this model yet cos I was thinking of replacing my Elite. This model looks cool and glossy like my fat PS3 and for that very reason, I'm thinking of changing my model. :)

Cheers!

[No Way]

First of all, who said they bought it? lol.
Second, some people are jus, well.. committed.
I honestly wouldn't put it past some people on this site..

[peeps]

"Look at his damn entertainment stand, its dusty and nasty as hell no wounder the thing over heated. I could write a paragraph within the dust on that stand."

Doesn't look that dusty tbh, just marked.

anyway, giving an error message to avoid damage is good but it would still be annoying as hell if this happened often. Even if that stand is slightly dusty (doesn't seem as bad as your comment made it out to be) that space looks to have more than enough room to provide sufficient ventilation

[BattleAxe]

I'd prefer to own a system that just doesn't overheat to begin with.

[Rainstorm81]

I think you guys are missing the point, an error message is better than just RRoD but what would be even better...........The Overheating problem being solved and not rerouted.

Now in this situation, that is the worst place to keep a 360 or a PS3 a dusty entertainment stand, without open air. You are asking for RRoD, YLoD, & RDoD. All at once.........Its called a duster use it.

The guys saying this person did it on purpose, its improbable but not impossible......imean how many vids are on Youtube of people destroying PS3s, Ipods, X360s, and Ipads??????

[EVILDEAD360]

They used a random guy at Gaf who shows two pictures..one of an Xbox on a shelf and one of a T.V. telling you that the system will shut off to 'PREVENT' damage and this PROVES overheating issues??

Please where do I order my 'I believe EVERYTHING that is written on the internet'T-shirt

First the hilarious 'scratching' issue the day after the 360 conference had the usual suspects running in place faster than those actors from the E3 Kinect Track and Field game demo to prove to absolutely no one that they had 'smoking gun'..now this??

*Kicks back feet and watches the buffonery*

priceless

Evil

[Eiffel]

Lol, welcome to the internet where people will go out of their way to prove a point, even if it takes swiping mommys credit card.

[sikbeta]

"who said they bought it?"

I see What you did there [No Way]

lol

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@Raiinstorm81

There is definetely a lot of those over youtube! I like when they introduce those little, last model, feature filled cellphones to a good old blender or microwave. Nothing like teaching people cool things you can do at your own home!

[dangert12]

ok so aprat from the new air vents added wifi and internal hardrive what did the do 2 it? :S
i can see why ms investors want them out of the entertainment industry,

i would love to work for ms you don't have to provide quality to to get paid serious money but its telling anyway

look how many mac & linux users there are now compared to the windows xp days

and sony is creeping on microsoft in the console market in a scary way

ms really f*ucked up with this console they could have addon support to 3rd part devs alot easier like hdd usb charges etc and i would have brought one myself but the fact that you still have to buy the skanky ripp off content is unreal

[mynd]

Dangert12, they did a fair amount to it on board, they reduced and consolidated the chipsets, resulting in les sheat and signigicant power consumption reduction.

you know the same stuff Sony did.

I bet you didnt bother to quesiton the slim did you?

[dangert12]

@mynd

im not a sony fanboy i have a 360 lol
i did't question the ps3 slim no but i ain't heard of them yellow lighting yet i'ver and sony made the slim to save cost

[mynd]

If you block all the vents on either a PS3 or 360 you will get the same overheating protection, this is nothing like the RROD.
And if you go read the neogaf thread the guy posted this with lots of LOL smilyy faces around it. Then didnt post anything else to clarfiy anything.

Did he do it delibratley?, more than likley his silence on the matter is quite condeming.

"i ain't heard of them yellow lighting " -What? LOL google YLOD.

[spacetattoo]

Some sony fan put the damn thing in the oven and cooked it.

GIVE ME A BREAK>>>. THE THINGS THAT GET PUT ON THIS SITE.

[peeps]

yeh, tbh some fanboys are so extreme they will buy a 'rival' console to sobatage it and give it a bad name on the internet /s

[YourFlyness]

at that point they are no longer fanboys, but Trolls

[heroprotagonist]

The error in your reasoning, peeps, is that you don't have to destroy the console to make it give you that warning.

The fact that some people are so quick to jump on one failure (which itself might be a deliberate smear tactic) and condemn the console's reliability based on that one report is very telling indeed. It shows the mentality of many fanboys, and frankly I wouldn't put it past one of them to do something like that.

[Syronicus]

Look at Soda. Can't take ownership for your beloved MS failing again. I so wanted to like this new console of theirs but the combination of failures like this and fanboys like you make owning the 360 a real chore.

[Lekumkee]

But but "We've fixed Red Ring problem" - Microsoft June 14, 2010
http://n4g.com/news/543592/...

[sid4gamerfreak]

wow..that was fast...

still i want to know the specific conditions the 360 was in... this proves nothing...

so ill give Microsoft the benefit of doubt..

[tawak]

they call it business strategy

[jakethemuss]

dam ms what up.

[blazBlue]

It has begun...again.

[vhero]

Wow adding a warning when its about to overheat can be taken 2 ways
bad - It's gonna stop your gaming mid game and won't allow you to play frustrating the user.
good - at least the console won't fry completely
However the good really doesn't affect the consumer as they will send it back if this happens regularly anyway. It just save MS some money as they won't need to replace more parts. Basically its all a new way for MS to save money on repairs and the customer is the one who gets the butt end of the deal on this as I can guess constantly getting that error would be ANNOYING. I was gonna get one of these models but now I am thinking a 360 premium would be better as at least it goes the whole 100% before it dies.

Either way I think the flavour of day is get insurance on your 360 still slim or not.

[Jazz4108]

Hold

[fishd]

Fission Mailed.

[Ryudo]

Yeah because it's impossible for the dude to have dropped it.

It's impossible for him to have spilled something on it.

It's impossible for him to have broken it on purpose.

It's impossible for console to be damaged in shipping.

Any for the morons saying why would he break it on purpose its simple. You have any idea how many hits a site would gain claiming you have the first new RROD on Microsofts new system?

That sort of publicity and site traffic would far outlay the price of a single 360. Am not saying the article is lying but there's a huge chance it is seriously the console hasn't even been out a week.

Seriously your all pathetic to you honestly believe not a single PS3 broke in the first week of release for an number or reasons?

Grow up and stop smoking sonys ____.

[pixelsword]

I'd wait for other RDODs before commenting on this one; the person seems to be not on the level.

[Duke Spookem]

Yet another disposable console by Microsoft.

[gtamike]

Xbox 360 Slim gets Red Dot of Death
http://img441.imageshack.us...

[NewZealander]

lets just give things a few weeks before jumping to conclusions, this article only shows that if the system overheats it shuts down to prevent damage, nobody knows anything more about the circumstances then that.

i understand that with the 360's past history some people will be thinking its all doomed and gloom and nothings changed, and as soon as one unit has an issue no matter how small, some people will be acting like every console i going to fail.

lets just keep a level head, thats all im saying.

[Syronicus]

Not me. Look at the amount of space it has for ventilation too. My PS3 slim is in a tighter confine and has never had an issue. Go figure MS...

[FragMnTagM]

It is not smart at all to have any console in a tight spot like that. You say you have your PS3 in an even tighter spot? Well that is just dumb. Eventually you will run into a problem. It simply is not a good idea to put a console, even a PS3, into a tight spot and expect it to not overheat. There is absolutely no way in hell I would put my PS3 slim or my 360 slim in a tight confined spot.

[palaeomerus]

He probably doesn't play it much since he's so busy fighting in the console wars here on N4g comments pages.

[krauler]

not a fan of the 360 but at least it powers down to avoid damage now. amiright?

[Xing]

The new console has only green LEDs in the ring on its front.
http://e3.gamespot.com/stor...

[adamx]

Yes in the ring, but it never said their was no red led in the center...

[Bubble Buddy]

Sigh... Microsoft had better fix those problems on the S.

[pippoppow]

If anything people should wait awhile before buying one of these. Scratching discs report already and a first RDOD pic is not a good sign. Let's see how reliable it is 6 months to 1 year down the road with heavy use.

Whether this was done on purpose or not, the MS die-hards on this site shouldn't be so quick to defend MS. They do not have a good track record this gen after all.

[palaeomerus]

Wasn't the supposed "scratched disc" report form a guy on destructoid who moved the system fairly violently while the DVD Was still spinning?

C'mon.

[Convas]

You know what's priceless about this? While the trolls on this site are like "OH NOES!1!!111! The New Xbox 360 S is a dud?!!111! Whatever will we dooz?"

The guys on NeoGAF are like "Oh RDOD, looks fake, ummm so how much is Gamestop offering for Fat 360 trade-ins guys?"

Also, in the second screen, it clearly says "THE XBOX 360 DOES NOT HAVE PROPER VENTILATION!" Not only is this a fake news story, a duplicate, a flamebait, AND a piece of yellow news, it's also OBVIOUS that the person purposely did something that caused the Xbox to put up a message about not being properly ventilated.

As you can see, this is not stopping anyone from buying a new 360 S and it's not going to stop me. Until thousands/hundreds of thousands are reporting this error, it goes as the same as the Destructoid's Disc Eating Video. Utterly Stupid BullSh*t.

News4Haters. Only one of the best known Fanboy hangouts on the web.

[PimpHandHappy]

because they took that out didn't they!!!

lol

[niceguywii60]

"It's because the new console has no red LEDs at all. According to a spec sheet obtained by gaming blog Joystiq, the new console has only green LEDs in the ring on its front"
http://e3.gamespot.com/stor...

http://www.tomsguide.com/us...
LOL

PS3 fanboys photo shopping the 360 they're so desperate to tarnish the 360's rep after the explosion in demand.

THERE SIMPLY ISN'T A RED LED IN THE CONSOLE. TALK ABOUT FACE PALM. I'M SURPRISED THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN HERE IGNORANT TO THESE FACTS WHEN N4G HAS BEEN FLOODED WITH NO RROD ARTICLES. How in the hell did this get posted 3 times when it was deleted?

Plus the article suggests it's a over heated warning not RROD. Dude photo shopped the pics this way and the and posted the shady reason to confuse people after they were reading articles about no red Leds being on the new console for the last two days.

An other article that failed. The photo shopped 360 is simply turned off with the red center light painted on the pic. http://n4g.com/news/547986/...
REPORT AS FAKE PLEASE.

[dabri5]

They say in the comments section that it's fake and list the visual diff why. There is no chrome top and the xbox letters aren't white. Also, I thought they took the red LEDs out.

[fuckitimout]

if someone buys a console just to abuse it, making it seem faulty, then, that's scary and I feel fucking sorry for them. Consoles wars are a joke.

[quadalupeupe]

on youtube, search for: NEW SLIM XBOX 360 OVERHEATING! CHECK IT OUT! or http://www.youtube.com/watc...

thats video of new 360 overheating, seems like it has plenty of ventilation to

[avengers1978]

Crappy MS hardware, who could've seen this coming.

[Sarcasm]

To be fair, that is a pretty crappy enclosure to put ANY console in.

[Spenok]

Lol couldnt have said it any better myself. Now if someone would do one of these to Microsoft R&D department they might actually shape up xD

http://spenoks-bunny.devian...

[windtek]

You Sony Fanboys are all the same still wet behind the ears. I bet you all stick suck your thumb and wet the bed.

[Paradise]

Well

That was fast

[NewNameNow]

uhh im no expert on the new xbox, but arent the vents on the sides?

wouldn't putting it on its side be covering up the vent...?

[Cartesian3D]

there is a vent above it too I think.. and believe me this new 360 has more than enough vent.. the problem is somewhere else.

[The Milkman]

I'm pretty sure someone did this just to get hits. It's pretty easy to do, just wrap it up in a towel for about an hour. It probably still works for him after he let it cool off. There's no way that thing couldn't get enough air with those vents. My old Xbox 360 doesn't even get hot anymore. I can already see people creating fake errors, then posting them for flame bait.

[Deathracer]

Yea not to mention when you click on the link in the article he's laughing about it. What sane person spends $300 on a system and then it magically over heats and you laugh about it? I would be pissed as hell.

[Redrum059]

no fanboy out there will spend good cash on the console he dislikes only to brake it, record it, then post it up on websites to troll on his enemies. thats just stupid.

[bjornbear]

i think those who did are fanboys who said to themselves

"WHAT? YES I WOULD!"

smh...

i agree w you though...this isn't for hits or fake, he's just an idiot, and put a bad piece of hardware in a place with bad ventilation, and he took it as an opportunity.

hell maybe he even MADE the website with this as its focus.

simple

[greatjimbo78]

"only to brake it" Wait, what?

[palaeomerus]

We've seen people film themselves smashing consoles (and other electronics like ipads) with hammers to get hits before. So obviously people DO ruin consoles on purpose just to cause controversy and get attention.

[spacetattoo]

actually I wouldn't count anyone out from pulling stunts for hits.

[NeptuneOO7]

It's a no name site and all of a sudden it posts this. It obviously doing it for hits.

[cossie123]

Proves absolutley nothing.

1.how long has the system been on
2. was anything blocking the vents
3.what was the temperature that day

also its nice to see that you get a message telling you that the system needs to shut down to cool instead of having the red ring and it not working.

his xbox aint dead. my laptop and pc shuts down when it gets too hot big deal.

[Rhythmattic]

I agree on your points 1 & 2...

But 3?

What , I cant play it on a Summers day?

As for this situation, this all could be fiction... until the new 360 is sold to the end consumer, and out into the wild, will we know its reliability.

TBH, I'm sure microsoft made sure they got this one right.

[HarryM]

I know this, but who on Earth would do such a thing? 0_0

[FragMnTagM]

that wait in line when a console launches just to smash it on the ground with a hammer in front of the people towards the back of the line that aren't going to get one....lol.

People act like no one has ever bought new tech in order to purposely sabotage it. Give me a break.

My slim 360 has been on for the past two days nearly the whole damn day and when I shut it off it is actually cooler than the PS3 slim, go figure huh? But obviously I am lying as the PS3 is holier than everything else. Nothing bad ever happens to any other electronics manufacturer. At least not here in N4G land. Home of the Sony worshippers.

[lelo2play]

LOL, lot of hate going against Microsoft... E3, Kinect, X360 Slim, Casual games for Kinect, etc.

They don't seem to get a break. It would be funny if Kinect's sales beat the crap of other consoles (or peripherals)... but I don't know. Guess we have to wait and see.

EDIT: @Deathracer
Yep... this is N4G. Lot of hateful PS3 fanboys in this site... unfortunately.

[Deathracer]

Your forgetting what site your on. On N4G anything negative about or towards Xbox gets approved ASAP. Any hate on PS3, Sony, GT5 and its considered "lame".

I go to other news websites and see no MS or Sony hate, I come here all I see is Microsoft bash bash bash We <3 Sony

My disagrees will prove this in a heart beat.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

news for haters

[NewsForSnowflakes]

I agree with what you say about the users of this website, but how can you not expect a story like this to get a lot heat and negative comment. Is there anything positive to say about it?

The site isn't loading for me for some reason, so I cannot read the article. Not sure if the images are fake or if it's just 1 faulty console. It might not be a widespread problem. I guess time will tell.

I'm gonna wait about 6 months before I decide to upgrade to a slim xbox.

[mushroomwig]

I hate it when people say bullshit like "oh any disagrees just proves me point" - because god forbid people to actually DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT, right?

I sure as hell don't agree with you, it seems like every week there is a anti-PS3 artitle on this site.

[BigKev45]

Deathracer, you could have not said it any better.

[tehReaper]

"I sure as hell don't agree with you, it seems like every week there is a anti-PS3 artitle on this site."

He did state that those articles are reported as lame, and they are. There are still fanboys on both sides, there is no doubt about that. But surely you must see which side is more dominant on this particular site, right?

[Garnett]

LOL, Of course Sony fans rule the internet.

[xaviertooth]

were you here 2006 up to 2008? if not, you don't have a clue.

[rezzah]

I guess you can call it hate, but really when you look at it MS disapointed many at E3 (1) because all they focused on was Kinect (2) which is basically a controllerless Wii (just thought of that). Thing about casual games is that what MS did was slap their hardcore fanbase in the face with Kinect. Many, even I, was expecting some great games here or there, but MS failed miserably. Its just the start though so maybe they can make something worthy of being hardcore for Kinect.

On the case with the 360 Slim (3), people are waiting to see if this will fail as the 360 does with its very well known quality and so far its proving to be just as "active" as its older brother. However it cannot be comepletly proven until it it occurs to many who own the Slim version, right now this is only happeneing to a few.

@xaviertooth

You're right, it was hell for the PS3 in the early days. MS gets some heat and they start to complain.

[adamx]

thats what you say but all I see are xbox trolls.

[djsean]

It's pretty much saying:

"Get me out of this dusty ass shelf and onto something with good ventilation and that can keep me cool. Also, please stop purposely smothering me with blankets to try and overheat me."

[labwarrior]

Good luck with that

[JasonXE]

he can still turn on his xbox?

[8thnightvolley]

i dont think its someting to be shouting about thou that was fast but from the pic it seems when the console senses its over heating it auto shuts down or something .. still an headache to be honest but he should still be able to turn on the 360

[Threesix]

This hasn't been reported as an en mass type of issue so that's a 'wait and see' type of deal at this point. It's probably more likely that the user of that Slim 360 didn't have it properly ventilated. I'm thinking about getting a slim, but now I want to see if this develops into a big problem or if turns out to be an isolated incident.

[Newtype]

Not many have the new Slim 360.

[P1NKY]

I know that the new fan setup they put in the Xbox 360 S is much better than the old one. In fact its quite similar to what the PS3 uses. Anyway, I think that combining the CPU, GPU and eDRAM into one chip wasn't such a good idea, if this is a legit overheating problem.

[P1NKY]

Why the disagrees? Im not hating on the Xbox. Im just putting out the question to whether or not combining everything into one chip was such a good idea.

[Garnett]

The 360 its self isnt rrod, but the monkey (uneducated person) who was playing with it, didnt give it enough room to breath.

It stills works.

[CellularDivision]

They shouldve added another vent.
Sorry MS, this is a nobuy for me.
Getting the old one, since its cheaper.

[velocitygamer]

I thought the new one is the same price as the old one???

[palaeomerus]

They're dumping the old ones at amazon and walmart with discounts and giftcard deals.

[DJKGBYF]

And I thought my 360 from 2005 lasting 3 years was bad. Well to be fair I did open it up and replace the fans and add another vent on it.

[SpLinT]

It gave him a message and i bet it worked fine right after.

[Omega4]

Desperate times I see lol

[120FPS]

I smell SDF here, anyone can towel the new 360 and post pics on the internet after it overheats

[timmyrulz]

All i see is bullsh1t and fanboys lapping it up, the terms "flys around sh1t" come to mind

[No Way]

Yea, I don't trust this.. if it starts happening more, okay.
But, one? I'ma pass it off, as I don't know any conditions.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

Red Dead Redemption and this news is as shocking as the ending of that game! Fucking hell msft.

[Gene]

Pretty legit the message the light has to turn off for it to work and it doesn't it's dead unless you can repair it but dam WTF that fast micro hardware skills need more realiabilty or give free one everytime someone x-box rrod that should be done x-box is a good system but it's Microsoft lack of not learning from its big mistake the aids of x-box.

[Dance]

NeoGaf has not confirmed whether or not the images are 100%

[tudors]

unless it happens to mine, this is old and boring.

[tudors]

the message, why would you have a shutdown message covering another message? this means you cannot read it because your only option is to turn off the console, I am not saying this is fake but it's easily done.

[PXSausage]

I have had my "slim" running quite a bit since I picked it up and haven't experienced a single issue with it.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I'm a sony fan(not a fanboy though), But I call this article complete BS and It's just a sony fannypack trying to make the slim 360 look bad, and while there at it they make other Sony gamers look bad to, The message clearly says there IS NOT enough vetilation, My gut tells me that they purposely smothered the airflow somehow or at least accidently.

[Wikkid666]

Totally agree... just like the idiot at Destructoid that picked it up and started shackin it.

[OlvaR]

all this histerical panic for one guy that we don't even know in what conditions his consoled overheated....i mean if there was a problem with the console would more people come up and report their problem?...how do we know that he didn't cause this himself, people love doing things like that just to get the internets attention

[Ngai]

lmao

[Dogswithguns]

To be fair. it's too soon to finger point, give it a few more months and see how it goes...

[Vip3r]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Not trolling but this 360 slim seems to be overheating too. :/

Edit: This isn't me or my setup in this video.

[ElementX]

See how close the consoles were together? That's setting up a fail right there. One console blows out hot air and the next one sucks it in. Plus there's no way to prove the 360 connected to the TV was the new model. Did you hear that loud fan? Mine isn't that loud. There are so many things wrong with that video.

Plus the light on the 360 wasn't red. The pixels on the screen could've been caused by a bad cable.

*EDIT*
@below:
We're not discussing the PS3.

[Vip3r]

The setup is fine. My PS3 is in a far more enclosed space and it works perfectly.

[P1NKY]

All the other consoles were switched off.

[ElementX]

Well, watching again they were off, but that doesn't explain the super loud fan noise. Mine is extremely quiet. Also where's the red light?

[Newtype]

OT, but that exoskeleton of an xbox looks nice..cool collection you got there.

[ceedubya9]

All those consoles need some space!

[ElementX]

Extremely doubtful, but I could be wrong. I've been playing my new 360 for a couple days now without any issues. The fan on my system is working and blowing out hot air like it's supposed to. This person could've covered the vent to smear the 360.

[cliffbo]

yes all harware makers have faults but MS has ALLOT MORE compared to others.

[gcolley]

sounds like one issue not multiple issues so far. another quality journalism headline suckers everyone in. there are bound to be more just don't call it before you see it.

[Karlnag3]

This is all well and good but what if it decides to shut down while it's saving? It would end up corrupting the save... hopefully they thought of that.

[crambar]

I'm a PS3 owner but not a "fanboy" in any way. But I find all this fanboyism ridiculous. whats to stop one of these people blocking all the vents one one of these consoles and just letting it overheat for a story? Might seem a bit extreme I know but they know they'll get a new console from MS and their name in lights. If thousands of people were reporting the problem then maybe it'd be newsworthy but one console out of how many?!? I think we need to give it a few months and see how the new slim XboX goes before passing judgement.

[DrWho]

That Xbox did not fail, it shut itself down to prevent failure.

[Karlnag3]

It still turned itself off whilst playing and you can't play again until it cools down... sure the console isn't dead, but that's not even close to a solution.

[DrWho]

It's not a solution. A solution would be to give the console proper space or ventilation. Maby there is too much hot air retained in that space it sits in. My slim sits on a desk in the open. My PS3 is in an entertainment cabinet because i watch blu-rays. It has turned itself off as to not over heat. My PS3 must be a big fail because its built well enough to know when its too hot.

[DrWho]

Why is the lettering on that 360 not silver like mine, it's all black is that a test unit or an arcade or somthing.

[kasasensei]

Let's hope it's a fake, right?!

[RacingLightning01]

I will never understand people that go to incredibal lengths to crap on some one elses parade. This artical is obviously some deush that wrapped his XBOX up in a towel 'till he got it to shut down. This is as stupid as when XBOX fanboys stood in lineups for days to get their hands on a PS3, only to smash it on the sidewalk infront of the crowds.

[Captain Tuttle]

There's no chrome on the 360 and the letters on the disk tray aren't highlighted.

Pathetic Sony fanboys on both sites spreading FUD. The only reason that I can think of is that you're scared (I have no idea why, you have no reason to be?)

You people didn't even look at the pictures.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

First of all, the picture quality is pure sheit. Second, we don't know who pre-frabicated this post anyway. But at least there is a "kill switch" for overheating just like a MOSFET amplifier. Also, you have the fan right over the circuit board. The only way electronics overheat is the room tempature is too warm with not ventilation at all.

P.S.

Where is the got-damn RoD in this 1.3 megapixel pic?!

http://gamersyndrome.com/wp...

[Titanz]

That's when it all started(Harddrive failures), its sad Microsoft still producing hardware thats made to fail the majority of the time(360's have the highest console failure rate).

[danielle007]

they fixed the arcades, and the elites. With the new ones, I haven't heard a single thing going wrong with them, especially not the RROD. I have a MW2 system, and it's perfectly fine & I've made mine do work. I havent' been doing it lately, but for months I would be playing L4D or COD WaW with my friends until 6 or 7 in the morning, from like 8 at night. We're addicts.. But anyways, I also work at GameStop, and if people get the RROD, they usually come to us first to see if we can do anything for them, and then ship them out to M$, at least when they buy it through us. Plus, some people buy our terrible GameStop warranty, so they would have to come to us. & There's been nothing.

So, with that, I highly doubt the new slim has done it on it's own, with those big huge vents. The images could have been doctored, a lil less likely since the TV message.. but people are very very skilled with photoshop these days it's amazing so still possible. Or someone could have deliberately tried to overheat it because they hate M$ or desperately want attention, or was trying to see if the towel trick still worked. Some people have the resources to be able to just throw money away. There are so many reasons that a system could red ring without it actually doing it on its own under normal circumstances. I honestly don't believe this for a second, and until some real reports come out that this is an epidemic like the RROD used to be, then I won't.

[hellboy1880]

Look at the disc tray, the xbox 360 letters are not highlighted white.

There are no red led’s inside of the Xbox Slim.

Don't be suckers for stupid bullshit, use those little pea brains of yours every once in a while. It's good for you.

[divideby0]

X-Clamp is NOT the proper solution. MS knows it

I can see failure rates for the slim be higher than industry standards, but no where as bad as the launch 360s.

A question to MS, is why didnt you fix the problem as you were told should be done, vs the x clamp band aid ??? Just charge a few more bucks for the console and no overheating issue at all

[Tzuno]

Nothing but a boot that hates microsoft xbox 360 and did on purpose this thing. i see only haters and i think this one is talking bullshit

[Claudinho69]

no comment

[lovecipher7]

this is a fake it's been photo shopped compare thw systems and you will see that there is no chrome on the sysatem. Plus the new xbox has no red led in it. Fake as shit trying to bring negative advertising to the system.

[Godmars290]

Weather its fake or not, a continued worry, all i know is that because of fanboys on both sides unless there are persistent reports this matter will never be resolved and MS will never be made to own up to it if its real.

And yes, if some douche is willing to buy a console just for the sake of smashing it in front of a line of people waiting to get it, they'll mess up one and post pictures. Not that the other side who's way to egger to shot down the notion are any better.

[Henry Cain]

I remeber when they were saying that the RROD was not happing and it was just BS by Sony fanboys. Look how that turned out

[jack_burt0n]

interesting that this has the most heat on n4g and yet is not on the front page.. after 6hrs lol

[0LDSCH00L]

There is so much hate on the internet lately towards MS and anything 360 related, that i cant even look at my PS3 without feeling disgusted.

[Thudd]

#1 The picture is a fake;

- No raised highlighted lettering on the Xbox portion.
- No chrome on the ends.
- And MS didn't put any red LED's in the system!

Desperate Sony fanboys make me ashamed of my PS3's.

[ColecoVision]

I would compare stories like this getting approved and put up on N4G, the same as the New York Times and it's stories... It's like a bunch of liberals out there trying to spread their hate, and it's embarrassing.

[alb1899]

i smell fear in ps3 this looks desperate!

[aviator189]

The PS3 fanboys are seriously getting to that level now. I'm pretty sure that this thing went through some serious testing before release and I'm pretty sure that this is fake.

[alb1899]

by the way the lens of the ps3 is caput for 3 of my friends my is not but is not like they say......... the ps3 can fail too!

[kewlkat007]

I bet you they all were PS3 FATS 40/60/80 gigers.

I'm debating whether I should buy a SLIM I seen on craigs for $200, instead of a REFURB from Sony costing $150.

I think Sony should Extend Warranty for that sh!t, I paid over $700 when I bought my PS3, now all is a waste, I even bought the 2-year best buy warranty which ran out last year.

Hey, the CONS of an early adoptor.

[generalthadeape]

I hope to hell that this is a fake. I'm not sure what to think right now. I've heard that this time around, Microsoft decided not to include ANY red LED lights in the console-- so, I'm seriously wondering if this is a fake.

I'm also wondering if people are TRYING to make this thing break just to make news, make themselves famous or to debunk Microsoft's shiny new machine before everyone gets a chance to see one for themselves.

I was just a cunt hair from placing my PS3 Slim & PSP on eBay in order to get this new system. I put $50 down @ GameStop in an effort to perhaps get one from tge next batch coming in-- when???

Oh well, I guess I'm going to have to wait & see if this is really what I want now. I guess I'll use the $50 @ GameStop to buy a new Sixaxis controller-- my stupid "triangle" button keeps sticking-- making it almost impossible to play Uncharted 2 properly.

Please say it isn't so...

[AnonUser5555]

I heard the "MS didn't include any red lights" thing before too, but that was wrong. They just included the red light "dot" in the middle, rather than around the power button.

Either way kinda makes me laugh. Have you guys ever seen Office Space? The scene were they discover Milton isn't actually an employee but was still receiving checks.

"So you've taken care of things, and talked to him?"

"No no...we fixed the GLITCH. He's not going to get checks anymore."

[HIGGINZOB]

It doesn't look real. I'm prettry sure the "Xbox 360" font was silver.

[aviator189]

this failed earlier because it was on a forums. I guess the guy decided to post it on a new website to get it approved immediately on here, huh? I seriously laugh at all the hate against microsoft on this website.

[SKullDugger]

I don't know if theses shots are real or not, but I have had mine since wednesday and no problems. No product is perfect and I think we need to wait longer and see. I had a Elite 360 with the 250GB HDD and the Jasper board for over a year and no issues. I like my 360 slim and the games and thats all that matters to me. To each their own.

[AnonUser5555]

In Microsoft's defense, the poster might just be REALLY bad with technology. After all, his pictures show that he bet on HDDVD rather than blu-ray. So maybe he's just bad luck.

[saoco]

damn that sucks. i was thinking of getting one. i had 3 rrod on me, (older model), but not anymore.

[windtek]

Wow your really that easy to convince. In that case I have 4.5 acres of prime Michigan swamp land to sell you.

[HIGGINZOB]

Okay...why isn't the "xbox 360" font silver?

[ZombieStalker]

Complete fake! First, the new 360 does not have any red led light around the power button. Second, it appears the console is inside an entertainment center, and based on the quality of the picture there may be glass covering the entertainment center. Third, the unit is shutting itself down due to temp issues which, in itself, is NOT a RROD. More than likely MS implemented some type of temp monitoring system in the new 360 and this unit here MAY be showing that temp monitoring system being implemented. Does this identify an issue with the new 360, absolutely NOT!!! Does the unit power back up and function normally after addressing any temp issues? Nothing started about that. This article should be removed unti the author verifies the source and impact of the system shutting down.

Ah...take a look the "XBOX 360" letters on the disk tray (not highlighted) and the lack of chrome on the edges...FAKE!!!

[ASSASSYN 36o]

LOL not a failure. The console is protecting itself FROM over heating. Even a non-slim 360 will continue with the fan on after shut off which is an indication it is over heated.

[falconm80]

It didn't fail, it just shut itself down to prevevt overhearing damage. I used to have a falcon xbox 360 and i sold it right after it showed signs of read errors and couple of freezes. from that point i went the ps3 route and never enjoyed my ps3 as much as my 360 but now i really dont see why should i got vuying 360 when all the games i like are availavle to my ps3 and PC. Microsoft lost me and alot of fans with their earlier hardware issues. I really would love to see the better overall console wins, wether it was xbox360 or PS3. at the end of the day, both consoles offer very close performance that the Wii can not provide.

[windtek]

Total BS not even a good fake. It's amazing how much false information is going around already about the new 360.

1:Systems Overheat False: Hard to RRD when there are no red lights on the system. Anyone who owns one can tell the build quality is unsurpassed.

2:They Removed the IR sensor False: I didn't even have to reprogram my Logitech remote works like a champ.

3:System is still loud False: Runs very quiet with or without the game installed.

These are just a few of many false claims about the new 360. I own the big three before the new 360 came out I would have said the best quality build was my older non slim PS3 but I can now say MS has stepped up to the plate and made a very nice piece of Hardware. My only I want would be to have a disc slot instead of a disc tray this is the only thing I think they dropped the ball on. I just wanted to reply to this BS so if anyone had any reservations about getting a new 360 no worries it is a very nice system.

[raziel6430]

It’s fake…take a close look at the disc trey…the xbox 360 letters are not highlight white…damn those sony fanboys trying to start shit on n4g

[raziel6430]

I HAVE MINE ON ALL DAY YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BOFORE ALL DAY TILL ABOUT 3AM IN THE MORN...

[Da One]

Well at least where i'm at....

[Evoluti0n]

I'm pretty sure MS wouldn't let this happen, considering all the bad press they got from the RROD in the past.

Let's all just take a 'wait and see' approach to these kinds of 'news' articles.

...I still want one lol

[xxchicago33xx]

I have both systems and I've had both of them fail....PS3-Optical Lens and 360-Disk Tray....it blows. I just don't see the point of why someone would photoshop a picture of this. They have to have something better to do...I can't even fathom the amount of nerdiness required to think this was a good use of time. And then to not even make the system look like it really does... is just a big bag of suck.

I'm not 100% on the red LED but looking at my 360 S, there is definitely chrome on both sides and the Xbox lettering is grey. I highly doubt that Microsoft has released 2 different designs. I'm sure it's capable of overheating...I just don't think this guys did.

[xxchicago33xx]

Oh here's the proof that this is fake for all the people without the console in front of them.

http://www.flickr.com/photo...

[Darkspade]

The Funniest part about this and what know one is say , but the guy covered the vents on the system, I have a new xbox 360 it sits in the wide open and yes they do get hot,..

[xxchicago33xx]

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[xg-ei8ht]

I get where your coming from, but you do have to remember one thing.

The PS3 got abuse and was raped by the media before it was even out.

Then when i finally arrived, it got raped again.

For no reason other then price.

As for 360, i don't hate it, but there are alot of things in the design of it that was poor, and should have been dealt with along time ago. It got to the point people were laughing when RROD happened, like oh, it's just one of those things.

Yet M$ has got away with alot imo./

If the PS3 had the hardware faults 360 had to begin with, i doubt the PS3 would still be around.

[Jamaicangmr]

"If the PS3 had the hardware faults 360 had to begin with, i doubt the PS3 would still be around."

Shows the bias of the media this gen. Most of them wanted the mighty Playstation brand to fail. I think its mainly because Sony dominated the past 2 generations. So because of that the media was being extremely sensative to every kink in Sony's armor and wanted them to fail.

While Microsoft has shaddy build quality and other faults. However they are seen as the Rocky of the gaming industry so they ignore their faults and gave them a free pass.

However Sony has turned the table and it's to the point now that they are doing so good that the media can not maintain their bias as it would be too obvious at this point.

[kewlkat007]

and it's problems...On average most people went through 2-3 PS2s.

It takes years to perfect Hardware.

It's understandable MS is a Software company and not a hrdware one as Sony but all have had big Gaffs throughout a Generation Cycle.

[General Shrooms]

This article is ridiculous, the images are probably fake or at least purposely produced (IMO), and that's not a hardware failure, it's a shutdown to protect from a hardware failure. Even if they aren't fake, that's a good thing, I would rather have the console shut itself off rather than breaking. Another thing, all these moron fanboys saying things that don't contribute anything. I mean really, If you don't have one of these consoles or you don't plan on getting one, THEN WHY DO YOU GIVE A SHIT!

[JonnyBigBoss]

I don't really understand why anyone thought the reliability was improved. Remember, it was MS who released a console early despite having monstrous issues just to get ahead.

[iliimaster1]

im sure this is going to happen... they have their fanbase already i know alot of people who is on their 3rd or 4th yet they keep buying the systems..... crazy people

[Dorwrath]

There is something wrong with that 360. It don't look right.

To me it looks like someone has made themselves a 360 casing and failed badly

The disk drive doesn't look right and so the other door thing on the bottom right. The white Xbox 360 name is not white but black.

Fake, no doubts.

[BubZ-SkullY]

I could write 2-3 paragraphs loling at fanboys about how not to trust a saftware company for making hardware...and how xbox is a huge fail..etc.
I can only say this..ONCE AGAIN FAILURE COMES XBOX FANS WAY...it may not be all of you but..its funny for us with the better console...lool

[Yo Mama]

Ummmmm....

[jmac53]

The new xbox 360 can not even produce the red ring or red dot. It doesnt even have the red LEDs. Probably Microsoft's reponse to get away from that stigma. If it was the Green Ring of Death, than it would be overheating (and maybe it is). I am not going to defend Microsoft because I am on my 3rd xbox now and I am pissed, but I am going to call you out on your bullshit article that you obviously did no research for. Go back to writing book reports.

[The Maxx]

nice Photoshop...to bad the wording has the level of an 8th grader. Fake.

[clarkjudo]

Like all entertainment centers. This entertainment center shown has a glass door (door is open for clearer picture taking with the flash setting on the camera). A small closed in area will create allot heat for any console. You can see the warnings on the screen behind the pop up window of instructions. It is stating the facts of proper placements for an console. Restricting airflow will heat up a console very quickly.

[PS3 Supremacy]

Disc scratching, now RDOD, and M$ fangirls defending the trashbox. What next....E75?

New look, same shit, different year.

[dionnysus]

only time will tell if this a problem in the minority of Xbox Slims sold or whether it becomes widespread like RROD

[hiredhelp]

ADMIN .im calling you out.why is non of my posts showing up here.have they been dleted and why .yet i go into my posts ive posted it tells me ive made two here.is it you dont like things i say.i speak my mind. if thats the case heres another . seems as your admin you guys.check the site put posts in right places.why do you post ps3 stuff and 360 stuff on the opposing side is it to ster up trouble.? just speaking way it is.

by the way as for the new slim.as said it could possibly be a kafe.personally i think it is.
but if it isnt just because theres a message comes on the screen and shuts down the console.does that make it a better console.has microsft woken up. i dont think so.360 owners need a reliable console.its been 5 years hasnt it .?

[farhad2k8]

Love how the 360 fanboys are trying to back this story up.
How about, you fanboys buy the slim console for yourselves? Great right?
Play it for.. 3 hours straight =D
And we will see the result haha
Keep your cool though, dont smash the 360 =P