Move over Killzone and Crysis, Rage is here

Vincent Hammett of PlayerAffinity.com wrote: "The next big benchmark was set by Killzone, which had great graphics and... well that's about it, but it sure did look pretty. With both of their sequels being shown at E3 this year, they're still stunningly good looking games, but are they at the very top anymore? No, if you ask me. Id's Rage has clawed its way to the top. So far, it's the nearest we've come to the coveted "Pixar quality graphics" look." Gameplay video of each game is provided in the article.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Hahahahaha! Damnit I needed that. Thanx playaffinity. LOL!

[FangBlade]

Good to know it's running better and more stable on the PS3 version:
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

And Killzone 3 makes both of them look like last gen.
Take a look @ 0:58 in the video below, best water effects I've ever seen.

[callahan09]

God damn, watching that Killzone 3 footage in 720p just really shows you how beautiful the game is. It's stunning. Can't wait to play with that jetpack. Looks like a lot of fun.

[callahan09]

OK, how is it off-topic when I comment on a Killzone 3 video that somebody else posted? Especially when Killzone 3 is one of the games that this article is about!

[Fishy Fingers]

Look like last-gen? Really? Killzone looks phenomenal, but Crysis and Rage are also 2 of the best looking games on the horizon.

Last-gen...

[SOAD]

That's an article from May 4, 2010.

iD must have felt that the 360 version was more stable a few days ago if they decided to show off that version at E3.

[beans]

Don't believe the hype until we've seen it up and running. The only thing that amazes me id that Rage as expected just crapped over any and all my console is greater arguments. This is the king for years to come.

[frankymv]

Crysis 2 and Rage look nice,

but NOWHERE near as good as Killzone 3.

Not even close.

[ToastyMcNibbles]

that video of killzone 3 looks gorgeous! judging from how much killzone 2 improved visually towards the end of its development cycle i cant imagine how good killzone 3 will look by next year... on a side note has anyone watched that motorstorm apocalypse gameplay? the game is insane!

[Dance]

http://meodia.com/article/2...

meodia says rage was being shown off on the Xbox 360. 60 FPS on what had to be the best looking multiplatform game I've ever seen. Did not experience any hiccups, any frame tearing or any slowdowns.

[arakouftaian]

since they show it behind doors for vip people.
but i play Killzone 3 in 3d few times and it looks mindblowin and many part of the game are photorealistic!!!

And the game is full of acction and fun to play
the level of the Jetpack it amazing!!!

[PoSTedUP]

rage looks great, from what i saw... i dont see the big deal. am i blind or something? KZ3 looks realistic, the gun in rage dosent look that good, the character models looks awesome and the lighting is amazing but over all i dont see what everones talking about. crysis2 looks better then rage and crysis2 and kz3 are close to eachother, i have to play them all though i guess, this is just my opinion from what i saw so far ok.

[No Way]

Good for that.. get it for the PS3 then.
I didn't care for Killzone 2, althoughhh
Killzone 3 looks muchh better, to me.

I'm liking this game, it appeals to me more than those.
And, would much rather pick this up, than either of those two games.

Rage is more of my style, however.

[crazydrummerlad1]

wow that video fangblade posted wit kz3 in hd jus blew my mind. sorry but kz3 is still king

[UnwanteDreamz]

God I hope it looks better. I'm tired of only my PS3 exclusives pushing my consol. It's about time someone catches up. I'll reserve final judgement for when I actually play it, unlike some other people on here.

[PoSTedUP]

true that unwanted. ima wait till i play them for final judgement

didnt like the first crysis (gunna giv #2 a chance)

i will definatly love RAGE more then most games

KillZone is just the most intense with the most chaos going on on screen at once, with some of the best if not the best visual, so take that into consideration too. sure a game can look great if the screen is really empty most of the time. : P thats why i give a lot of credit to crysis2 also.

[Hallmark Moment]

LOL you dig up old quotes from statements made during the time the devs supposedly had the PS3 version running better yet they were showing off the 360 version at the time and at E3. Devs say that to please PS3 fanboys. If that were true why not show the better version? LOL

Devs talk up the PS3 to get PS3 fanboys to buy their games they invest so much in. LOL you take a quote explaining the progress of each version a while back as proof of the PS3 version being better and ignore the action of the developer showing of the worst version at E3? by worst I mean the best LOL

[Lawliet]

I'm curious about all these amazing RAGE, so I take a little peek at the video, and from what I'm seeing the game does look stunning. However, to go as far as to say it looks better than KillZone3 or Crysis2 is pretty much subjective. There are however still many question left unanswered. Like if Rage could perform the massive destruction of KillZone3 by maintaining at that 60 frame rate, or would there even be scenes of massive destruction? From what this video shown, it had yet proven to be so to make up a conclusion that this game stance among the top of Killzone3 and Crysis2.

[zeeshan]

@Hallmark: Yeah and imagine how amazing it'll look on PS3 if it is looking good on Xbox360! Killzone 3 is hands down the BEST fps this gen. Errr, wait! You wouldn't know cuz you ain't got no PS3 so... nevermind!

[getonmylev3l]

at first glance rage looks like borderlands

[Conloles]

This is gonna be awesome in 1080P with more than 4XAA - only on PC

[Skizelli]

Why is it that all the KZ3-related comments only talk about graphics? Looks don't mean shit. Any one of these games can lack in the gameplay/story department. As for first impressions, KZ3 looks more FUN than KZ2, RAGE's animations look incredible (plus id has never let me down), and I like how Crysis 2 is in a domestic environment. CryTek isn't known for making games with stories, but we'll see.

@zeeshan: How is KZ3 the best FPS this generation when you haven't even played it yet? Did Kevin Butler tell you this from the future?

[Jessewb]

For any other idiots talking about showing the "better" version of rage at e3, the version that is shown has nothing to do with being better or worse.
To give a fine example, Crysis would never have been shown on 360 and just on PC or even on ps3, because the 360 version is the lowest of the 3, or I remember back when Criterion was showing burnout we also saw the 360 and yet the ps3 version was the better version.
So just think and don't act like dim witted idiots, we have enough of those already.

[Spenok]

Damn, its video's like this that really make me remember how amazing KZ2 was, and how amazing KZ3 will most definitly be. KZ3 definitly looks better then the competition but to say it makes Rage and Crysis look last gen is a bit of an overstatement. I can just only imagine what these games look like in 3D, man i need to buy one, and soon.

[talltony]

But I believe crysis 2's graphics are a little overhyped though still really good. I am insanely impressed with rage and kz3 but I believe kz3 will have more detail in it thx to bluray. I believe more space allows for more details to be put into the game. Just my opinion people but the environment in kz3 looks crazy detailed.

[seij555]

id said they would take advantage of blu-ray so you never know but I still think KZ3 looks way better than Rage.

[Ju]

One thing I notice in Rage. No particle system what so ever. Minor smoke, no bullet impact renderer, no destruction (like shoot at the pillar - no impact). But huge environment, cristal clear image, great scope.

[DARK WITNESS]

in my opinion they are all very good looking, but they all have different things going for them.

The thing about Crysis is it's trying to do everything; have the great graphics, sandbox environments and destructible environments.

Rage has it's massive open world.

Killzone is a lot more linear so it can afford to focus more on details, it has some destruction, but I would not say it's the same level as crysis or badcompany etc.

so it's a trade off between the 3.

Of the 3 I would say crysis is the one I am most skeptical of. but thats more to do with it's story etc.

I played and owned killzone 2, I didn't think much of the campaign at all, thats my honest opinion. I am looking forward to killzone 3 more for it's multiplayer.

Rage is the game I am looking for a great single player experience.

[pixelsword]

@ DARK WITNESS:

How do you associate "linear" from what you saw from Killzone's clip? Linear basically means "a straight line"; so unless you're talking about the flight sequences, that's kinda grasping for straws if you're talking about the fact that you can't go from one board to, let's say the last board. Even in sandbox games you have to work in a linear sequence for progression in terms of objectives to move the story along (since you're not a pilot, that's a rather moot point to make, since you're not a pilot in Crysis either for your drop points; plus you didn't get to fight on your way down there, and you may not be piloting anything at all in Rage).

At any rate, I'm looking more for the trade-offs between the three.

I haven't seen enough of Crysis or Rage to see if they'll have particle effects like Killzone already has, and I'm kinda doubting that they might have it, since even my favorite 360 game, Halo: Reach doesn't have any in significant amounts. Environmental particle effects are nice, but even Resistance 1 had that plus level-wide particle effects; I hope that the 360 version won't hinder the other two graphically, but since they already cut out a faction plus said that they will all be the same, I'm not holding my breath that this game will beat a PS3 exclusive in terms of graphics... but you never know.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ pixelsword

I don't even know where to start so I am going to try and not go off on one.

We all know what "linear" literally means, and the context to which we use the term when we are talking about game design or level design.

Are you trying to tell me you class killzone as a sandbox game ?

there is no game with a story that is not linear, even sandbox box such as GTA, Saints row, Infamous, AC...you name it, they all have linear story progression which is broken up by boards or moving from one board to the next, but they are called sandbox/open world so obviously when I say linear I am not talking about the story progression. what makes games like Rage, GTA, AC, red dead, open world ? ... Killzone is Linear compared to crysis and rage, Resistance was linear. You can have big open levels and still have a linear game. Resistance had huge levels which you could physically see, but your own movement through the levels was still very limited and fixed, Farcry 2 on the other hand was a sandbox game. the overall story was still linear but the world in which this took place was sandbox.

The only games that don't tend to have linear story progression are RPG's but even then most RPG's have a central/core story that still progresses in a linear path. just the overall story can be broken up by side missions or multiple paths with in the story.

I don't see how pointing out the fact that killzone 3 is more linear ( note i didn't say it was totally linear, I just said "more" linear then crysis and rage ) is grasping at straws. I have owned killzone 2, resistance 2, Farcry 2 etc. I am not pointing it out trying to be a fanboy. I intend to buy all three games.

[meetajhu]

John Carmack is the Best. Idsoftware is always meant to keep benchmark in gaming. I mean in the old days what game was able to beat Quake 1 for next 3 years until Quake 2? Doom 3 man still looks awesome! This game will demoslish any fps

[tinybigman]

everyone fight over this? i personally think all 3 games look outstanding and guess what ill buy all 3 because

1 i loved KZ2 so getting part 3 is only natural
2 Crysis 2 looks great and i'm intrigued with what ive seen so far
3 Rage reminds me of Borderlands and i love that game.

in the end i love games and all 3 have a place in my collection.

[pixelsword]

"The next big benchmark was set by Killzone, which had great graphics and... well that's about it, but it sure did look pretty"

The last mistake you'd want to do is put the words "ID" and "storyline" together if you want to be believable. Wow; I can't believe they actually went there.

[sikbeta]

Sure Rage will look great and Obviously Crysis too, but when it comes to PS3, KZ3 will Blow up Everything....

[popup]

What a paranoid world we live in!

Even if you do want to really compare 3 games that are literally on 3 different planets then are we talking artstyle or technical competence?

Killzone is full of mayhem. The whole scene is alive, dirty, animated and analogue.

Rage is very pretty (well outside it is) and has great artstyle with massive, colourful textures.

Crysis sort of has elements of both.

If all 3 are good games then buy and enjoy all 3.

[R6ex]

Look at the amount of things happening on the background of Crysis - its unbelievable! Rage has static background while Killzone looks bland.

[arakouftaian]

its amazing the 3d tech in Killzone 3.

And yes many part in Killzone 3 demos 3d looks photorealistic.

[Al Bundy]

They also said Splinter Cell: Conviction and Alan Wake had the best graphics on consoles until.............well........ ..they were released and we never heard those outlandish claims again.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Rage looks fantastic, will be nice to see the Crysis (looks to be the best of teh three), Killzone, and Rage go at it for best visuals.

I guess we will see rather soon.

[Kurt Russell]

Id always have good engines - Rage looks more fun to me.

[R6ex]

Yup. To me, Crysis 2 looks the best.

[jmmurillo86]

ID has been away for too long, I don't think they can catch up Guerrilla+Sony and Crytek+EA in their first try. We will see anyway.

[deathstriker]

If you look at the full article you'll see Rage being played. From that I think Id still has "it". I actually think this might be their best game, since their other ones are just going from point A to B, Rage actually looks ambitious. It's a close race between it and Crysis on who has the best graphics, it's Rage by a hair right now IMO.

[SOAD]

Jon Carmack, the programmer behind the Id-tech-5 engine, builds space rockets in his spare time that rival NASA's rockets.

He invented ambient occlusion on consoles. I don't doubt his genius.

And you all need to understand. RAGE is running at 60 frames per second.

Just for the hell of it, imagine what RAGE would look like at 30 frames per second with double the amount of polygons on each frame each second.

I believe that rivals Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, from what I have seen of RAGE on consoles.

[peowpeow]

What in your comment are people disagreeing about? Discuss people!

[thewhoopimen]

Great question peowpeow.

I think i disagree because SOAD forgets to mention how blurry all the environmental textures of RAGE looks upclose. RAGE seems to literally only have 1 LOD for the environment. It looks great from afar, but not so impressive upclose. As someone else also mentioned, the particle system seems rather minimal. Watch when they blow up the tower in the video.

There's alot of corner cutting in order to achieve the frame rates even WITH Carmack's reputation as a gifted programmer. I would agree 100% with SOAD if he said that 99% of studios wouldn't be able to display the level of detail RAGE has with a 720p 60FPS Open world goal in mind.

However, he is contending that it is comparable in detail with # of particles, lights, polygons displayed onscreen to Crysis 2 or KZ3... something i would heartily disagree. The people at Crytech and Guerilla have both been lauded as the best of class. Their goals respectively have been to fill as much onscreen detail as much as possible without FPS or openworld constraints.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ peowpeow

they can't discuss, they are hating for hating sake. They will hate on anything that is a threat.

[snp]

It runs 60fps, but only when nothing is on screen atm. Have a look at the turning and movement when pretty much any characters appear - it's noticeably more jerky. In fact the two video's i've seen the bloke controlling is very very careful to slow down and be quite cautious in the way he moves when around characters; suggesting he's aware of it to.

Franky, it's not the polygons that worry about this game - though the models do feature noticeably less, and the environment is very much corridor (even outside it's sort of 'rocks corridor') - so much as the absolute lack of any on the fly lighting or environmental effects. And 'those' are the things which kill performance.

I'll give them props for their texture tech - that is very cool - but that aside no way is this doing as much at a variable 60fps (with dips, or at least some sort of evident problem when characters are on screen) as Killzone 3 is at 30fps. I actually think this looks like a more fun game (i like the gameplay variation), but if you put Killzone 3's geometry and effects into this version of Rage, i seriously think it'd be running considerably slower than Killzone3 does atm.

I'll wait and see the PS3 version of Rage - maybe there's more lighting and other stuff going on that would make the 60fps (when it holds it) more impressive than Killzone3 running doing so much more at a steady 30fps - but as it is i'm just not feeling it. People can think that's fanboyism or whatever they want, but it really isn't. I'll call a spade a spade, but Rage just looks too sterile and empty atm for me to be cheer-leading it.

[seij555]

Thank you! Finally someone intelligent for once! From what we have seen of Rage, it was very closed corridor with no effects, baked lighting, and some animation issues. There was some noticeable jarring. The only thing I really took from the gameplay so far is that the textures look amazing but that is about it. KZ3 has a lot more going on with dynamic smoke, particles, lighting, etc. I'll reserve my judgment of Crysis 2 until I see it running on PS3.

[Hotel_Moscow]

yeah that was what im talking about im watching these videos that people are saying is the new console graphics king and i cant believe the 360 is doing this at 60 fps and im looking at the videos trying to find out why

[Donny]

ive seen the graphics for rage and i think killzone 2 looks better than rage, let alone killzone 3. i am not saying rage looks bad, very far from it, but can we not come to a resonable understanding?

[SOAD]

I agree, but Rage sacrifices its graphics somewhat to run at 60 frames per second.

Technically, the engine is very impressive in my opinion, and the man behind it, John Carmack, has built an engine that can rival Guerrilla Games's engine.

[RememberThe357]

When you look at Killzone 2 or even Killzone 3 in this early state, there is so much going on on screen it's almost over whelming. Rage seems to play much more like Borderlands, which has much less going on.

That is not to say one is doing more then the other, but that they are doing things differently. id seems to be more focused on the texture streaming and stuff like that while GG seems more focused on scale and onscreen action.

They both look fantastic and will show that 2011 will not be short on impressive titles.

[Donny]

No doubt rage will look fantastic, im really excited. And the guy must be a genious. and with the very complicated technology with the cell from the Playstation 3. the Cell processor can be split into four components: external input and output structures, the main processor called the Power Processing Element (PPE) (a two-way simultaneous multithreaded Power ISA v.2.03 compliant core), eight fully-functional co-processors called the Synergistic Processing Elements, or SPEs, and a specialized high-bandwidth circular data bus connecting the PPE, input/output elements and the SPEs, called the Element Interconnect Bus or EIB.

but i am almost positive the specs on the xbox360 are not powerful enough to match the specs needed to create uncharted 2. such as follows.
* 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
* 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
* 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

* 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
* Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point and

[whydoyouask]

TL;DR

[N4realGMRZ]

Does those specs mean anything? Rage still looks better than all sony exclusives and its multiplat.....and running stabler on the 360.....so those numbers mean nothing if its not doing what its suppose to do.

[Biggest]

Rage has not been released yet. Please wait for the final game. I don't mean to single you out on this. All of the people that jump with glee for "KILZONE LOSES IN GRAPHICS TO..." articles should calm down yet again. Every game that has been released since Killzone 2 has been of inferior graphical/technical quality (save Uncharted 2 and GoW3). People knew for an irrefutable fact that so many other games would change the graphic landscape. The real fact is that none of them did. Let's wait for the new games to be released this time. You're setting yourselves up for failure.

[aGameDeveloper]

I totally agree with Biggest about reserving judgment until we can actually see the games running. Having said that, the people reporting from E3 HAVE apparently seen the games running live on the respective platforms (and I'm assuming they are smart enough to check that the cables actually connect to the consoles these days...) and if they say it looks better, there's a good chance it looks at least about as good...at 60 fps.

[aGameDeveloper]

Of course, "better" or "best" is a matter of preference to a large degree. Some people prefer dark, monochrome, repetitive textures with lots of particle and post-processing excitement thrown in to cover it up. While others prefer well-lit, interesting, hand-crafted textures that don't require a cover up. Some prefer a lot of stuff going on at once on screen, at the expense of smooth frame-rate and tearing, while others look for the opposite.

[aGameDeveloper]

It may be obvious from my choice of words that I prefer the smooth, hand-crafted (but perhaps less "exciting") corner of the space. Graphically, I find I enjoy some of the 2D download-able games, such as those from Pixeljunk, which run at 1080p at 60 fps, over some of the 3D games (which I might enjoy more for their gameplay) that might only run at 540 @ 30 fps and hurt my eyes compared to the others (I'm looking at you, GTA IV PS3).

If Rage actually renders at 720p at a consistent 60 fps, I think its bright, crisp visuals are going to be a real joy to MY eyes, at least. I saw the four-platform demo they had set up a Quakecon three years ago (and saw the cables running from each monitor to each console), and can say that I'm not surprised to hear the reviewers gushing at E3, as it was pretty stunning even way back then.

[HappyTrigger]

All consoles have their strengths and weaknesses. The PS3 has a stronger CPU. While the Xbox 360 has a stronger GPU and more memory/bandwidth. The Cell I believe has only 6 SPUs; One of which is like you said, locked for redundancy and another reserved for OS. The Xenos in the 360 can boast more performance than the RSX in the PS3. Though, if you factor in the Cell, then it gets a little tricky.

-----

Like I said, each console is different. Its not right to say one console is stronger than the other. Its up to the devs to grasp the power of each console. It's all down to talent and dedication. Many multiplats like Rage show that the 360 still has a lot more juice in it. And exclusives like GOW III, Uncharted 2, and Killzone 2-3 show the PS3 is still going strong...

:D

[Ju]

Cell has 8 spus. One is locked for yields, another exclusive by the OS. Leaves 6 to the game.

[HappyTrigger]

That's what I meant to say. 8 SPUs in all.. But 6 are usable for games.

:D

[tweakedhuman]

sad thing is

crysis from 2007 still rape anythin thats out or coming out

[jonboi24]

Yeah if you had money for a PC good enough to run this at max. Thats the thing with PC games graphics are as good as your hardware.

[R6ex]

*sob*

[Proxy]

All I can do is smile.

[jonboi24]

Judge these games when their done because Crysis 2 is launching this holiday and Rage and Killzone 3 still have a long way to go before they go gold.

[CharlesDCI]

I guess the developers of Rage found a way to use around 8gb of space and made a game that is graphically superior to KZ3 and Crysis. They must be from another dimension or something

[Gue1]

They are using 2 DVD9 discs because the megatexture takes a lot of space and don't forget about the heavy compression. PS3 version it's gonna look better just because of blu-ray, John Carmack has said this multiple times and if you don't believe me then google it yourself, I'm not lying.

[Proxy]

Did he also say he though Sony made a bad decision by using Bluray initially?

Yeah. "Less optimal decision" I should say. I guess he wasn't talking about Bluray though.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[N4realGMRZ]

Only here u will find delusional people.....rage is leaps and bounds ahead of any tech from sony & microsoft............rage dosnt only look better than Killzone 3 it looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better! goodness only on N4G.....lol

[Donny]

and the heated online debates begin.. have fun everyone ;)

[Proxy]

Debate usually involves intelligent discussion from different points of view. Probably wont be much debate.

[thewhoopimen]

Hey N4realGMRZ. I'm gonna copy your quote for posterity's sake. Gonna be fun reading your quote back to you. if RAGE had that huge of an advantage there wouldn't be just 1 no-name publication mentioning the "clear"differences. In fact I would posit that those "differences" would be mentioned like some new SSAO or new MSAA or lighting technique... Has there? No. I think i'll wait for Digital Foundry to make that statement thank you.

[ILLINOIS]

If Rage can look like that on a 360 show me what it can look like on a PS3. Rage and Crysis 2 are nothing compared to Killzone 3.

[RememberThe357]

I actually think Metal of Honor looks better then Crysis 2. I was very disappointed by what EA showed of Crysis 2.

[Ju]

I agree. A lot of good looking games up there. The only reason why Crysis2 comes up is because of their reputation earned in Crysis the PC version. But it is IMO a top tear contender, but sure not THE top tear game.

While we are at it. Maybe we should define what Rage is going up against here. Is it open world or is it FPS ?

FPS are linear and have more effects going on. Rage cannot compete with those type of games.

If we go open world, compare it with Brink and inFamous2 (what other open world games have been shown). And all those games look gorgous as well. Brink has frame rate issues, but a similar scope, inFamous2 was only shown in a trailer but has ten times more particles going on and dynamic lightning than any of these two other games.

[aGameDeveloper]

Ju, is a "top tear contender" someone who cries a lot, or causes others to cry? #;^)

If we've only seen a trailer of inFamous2, how do we know how many particles actually make it into game-play? And does the largest number of particles define the best looking games? In that case, every game mentioned on this topic sucks compared to Geometry Wars...

[Legionaire2005]

No game has run in true native 720p resolution like this game!!! From the characters to the environment and the dynamic gameplay all in an open world shooter and multiplayer too !!!! What more can you ask for in a game? No system will ever reach its peak!!! You single minded fanboys!!! should realize that since the days of the original Xbox and PS2 and Gamecube.

[strickers]

to N4realGMRZ
It really doesn't.You may want it to but you may be the delusional one.Crysis,Killzone 3 and Rage all look very good.Much of which looks better will come down to preferred art design.From a technical point of view,it's hard to tell but watching the video of Rage it was not as good as the hype on here suggested.Killzone 3 still looks like the king to me.Maybe some are too desperate for 360 to have a game to prove it's tech worth.The makers of Crysis and Rage say their games run slightly better on PS3 though.

[jalen247]

Killzone 3 looks better than Crysis 2(360) and Rage(360).

I personally think Rage(360) looks better than Crysis 2(360)

I want to see how the PS3 version of Rage and Crysis 2 compare to Killzone 3

[SuperbVillain]

did they say move over killzone 3...here comes rage?....AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA LMFAOOOOOOOO funnay joke...

[Legionaire2005]

The Tech 5 Engine is one hell of impressive engine and this small video of it doesn't do it justice. Watch this on G4TV on your TV and you will agree that this is the best looking game on any console. Look at the mountains in the background no hiccups or frame tearing like many of those open world games that use the unreal 3 engine. Killzone 3 looks great, but I think even if its the alpha build, it wouldn't look too much better then that early build, more like Killzone 2.5, and Crysis 2 looks great too, but the least great out of the 2. I know i'm going to get some disagrees lol!!! Know this I stand by my opinion, Rage is better.

[iliimaster1]

yeah better than killzone god of war 3 and uncharted 2 ... on the xbox..... lmao

[Gue1]

I'm like the biggest PS3 fanboy on this site but Rage looks absolutely stunning. Not even Crysis 2 or Killzone 3 can touch it.

The freaking game is an open world running at 60fps with impressive detail and 720p resolution! For god's sake are you listening? 60fps, open-world, 720p? When was the last time a console game did that? NEVER! Seriously, we need devs to start using the megatexture technique, are you seeing those amazing textures? I'm sorry but that easily surpass Uncharted 2 and it's on Xbox....

Some people will be in total denial while others will cry but Rage will be the best looking game on console when it comes out, no doubt about it.

[DARK WITNESS]

exactly, people just don't seem take all that in. each game is doing something different.

[R_aVe_N]

All three titles look really good honestly. Killzone 3 is my first choice in the 3 games though. Rage comes in a very close second while Crysis 2 is pulling up the end. I will be getting both Killzone 3 and Rage when they release I will not however be getting Crysis 2.

[kingboy]

Im sorry what...!!!

[iliimaster1]

they let anybody submit articles

[Keltik82]

Seriously, nothing can match Killzone 3 graphically. If you say otherwise you're just blind.

[RagTagBnd445]

Crysis(PC), Metro 2033(PC) and BF:BC2(PC) says hello.

[The real killer]

Again, Killzone 3 says hello.

BTW"i have those game what he mention, and it does not looks than Kllzone 3 on pre alpha.

Killzone 3 is intense every place, not see that in game what he mention.

[Keltik82]

Nice try, but Killzone says hello and just "Sucker Punched" those games you mentioned. Forgot it's 3D. again, Nice try.

[yakuzakazuya]

I don't understand it with some of you guys. Back in the days of PS2 most games used pre-baked lighting/shadows because the hardware wasn't powerful enough to render realtime dynamic lighting. Then the xbox showed up and when I got to play Riddick:Escape from Butcher Bay I was floored. Finally a console game where every lightsource produced shadows, every object in-game projecting shadows all over the place.

And now, Rage comes in 2010 and what do I see? STATIC PRE-BAKED LIGHT/SHADOWS. F.ck this. I don't give a damn about 60fps if Id/Carmack had to sacrifice realtime dynamic lighting to achieve it. After being spoiled with lighting in METRO 2033 and PC Crysis, Carmack expects me to accept cheap-ass prebaked lighting? No thanks.

Crysis 2 and KZ3 while only runs at 30fps, gives you all the top graphics features that define today's console graphics.

[byeGollum]

in order to maintain the visuals in Crysis 2 and Killzone 2, they have to come down to 30Frames. But John Carmack's Rage is doing crazy visuals and 60Frames on consoles lol plus its open world( keep in mind Crysis and Rage are sand box or semi sand box lol)

[yakuzakazuya]

Uhhm...what sort of crazy visuals? The RAGE environments are STATIC. As in devoid of LIFE. Compared to Red Dead Redemption's open world, RAGE is laughingly BARREN.

You have to consider that RAGE uses PRE-BAKED LIGHTING. Which means it won't have true day/night cycle transitions. Not a beliavable one at least. You need shadows that move dynamically reacting to a moving lightsource (the Sun) in order to achieve that beautiful RDR sunset.

[RagTagBnd445]

The PC version of RAGE will be a blast, the 360 version looked good, but Killzone 3 is without doubt the best looking console game so far.

[Solotov]

Well, Rage in motion can have an advantage in graphics, considering it is running in 60fps, compared to only 30fps for Killzone 3 and Crysis

[doublebass2]

@To all fanboys reading this...killzone 3 looks stunning,but not that stunning as crysis2!even on the 360!!It has more textures(a lot more objects than just grey,black,white,sometimes metallic and in general more variety of coloured objects)more destructable enviroments(which most are baked in killzone3,since no matter where you shoot them,have the same result)physics,and enough action going on the screen without hitching!!it did nt need a blue ray to do this!!
as almost all fanboys here think that since its on blue ray..all textures are better(boy,how many times have they ve been wrong about textures and detail in multyplatform comparisons..I lost count a while ago..)!As I said in a previous comment...if both rage and crysis were ps3 exclusives,they would all start raving about their graphics and could care less about the supposed halo killer wannabe exclusive...
but now that they found out out that a "lesser"and older machine is capable,to deliver better graphic results than their so called 3 times powerfull system(again shown in multyplatforms,since m$ does nt have that able studios that sony has),they try to convince all others,that we are blind and that only they know quality..
(as if they have enough exclusives that can match their inferior-to-360-multyplayer counterparts,in terms of gameplay...only uncharted and to some extend the GOW3,which was a stunning hd GoW with small campaign..if kidzone2 did nt have graphics it would flop,campaign nothing that special,and multy worse than the cod behemoths..and certainly,not halo killer!)
graphics wise,crysis 2 is the better,even if it is nt 60fps like the also awesome rage,but has more eye candy than Rage.. dont know what the campaign expirience is all about,hope that its not like the first crysis..which was just...good,not awesome as cod or halo or mass effect1+2,same for Rage!As for kidzone3,lets hope that this time it has a campaign good enough to match its graphics..doubtfull though..thank god it has animations..cause its artistically grey boring inviroments of the second instalment,were nt enough to make in the ten best fps of all time..like halo..Truth spoken!!

[thewhoopimen]

I think you are mistaking the CryEngine3 tech demo with Crysis2 for consoles. That video demo of Crysis2 didn't exactly show the "level of destructability" you mentioned. Mostly during scripted in-game cinematic sequences if you ask me unless you consider. I would like to ask you present proof showing upclose LOD textures on multiplats rivaling 1st party, otherwise I would simply point to Uncharted 1 textures vs Gears of war 1 and 2 articles.

Reading further down... you are clearly just trolling. Let me ask you this, if Crysis 2 is such lightyears ahead of "Kidzone 3" please list out real examples of where and how.

[doublebass2]

have you checked the gametrailers walkthrough of crysis 2 on 360???please,do yorself a favour and have them checked and see if it scripted or not..and as i said but maybe you did nt get it....i was nt compering multyplats with exclusives on graphics but gameplay...meaning that yoour best exclusives minus uncahrted 2 are far worse in terms of gameplay ..red dead gta 4,oblivion,street fighter,bioshock and half life 2 to name a few..which ARE better on the xbox 360...get your facts straight for once

[piramides30]

For what I've seen of Rage,It's nothing of another world. Looks good but I'm not impressed.

[CID]

After watching the vid. I'm sorry but Rage is nothing special at all. The enviroment is very static with hardly anything moving and looks dead. Hardly more than 2 enemies on screen at once, no particle, lighting or other effects which were in KZ2. Animation of enemies is terrible and framerate also stutters.
360 fanboys have reached a new level of desparation trying to compare a game that reminds me of Borderlands to KZ2 and Uncharted2.

[yakuzakazuya]

http://e-mpire.com/content/...

"As we've known for some time now, the mega-texture system has some funky troubles with dynamic lighting, some shadows appearing painted onto textures, others seeming dynamically generated on player characters and NPCs, the depth/blackness of shadows not quite matching across the two methods. The result is only subtly jarring, but criticisms of the game that suggest characters seem "placed" upon beautiful (but static) landscapes are valid."

This explains the static lighting. It's the fault of the engine. How is Rage going to pull off an open world experience convincingly without the use of realtime day/night transition? This is my major beef with Rage. It tries to be open world but it's engine limits what it can do to enhance open world experience with it's static lighting.

I do however, agree that Rage has pretty textures. But it's definitely not as impressive when you take into account other things such as lighting, particle effects, post-process effects, destructible environments, per object motion blur, SSAO, etc.

[tudors]

if you took away the physics side of the PS3 and just left it with the GPU as having the main capabilities and not the Cell then KZ and other games would not look that good, UC2 has proven that the PS3 can do textures but it's not the GPU doing the real work, but despite the GPU lacking it is the physics or number crunching that the PS3 can dish out that gives it an edge, Rage, Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, Halo Reach etc all look amazing, Crysis IMO looks better than KZ2, but KZ3 has a lot going on all at once, it does not seem to have a problem with mass physics effects at all, there is still smoke and mirrors going on but so what, the effects make up for any poor textures, as a example in both KZ2 and KZ3 the gun looks amazing but often looks like a diamond in the rough because nothing else looks as good as the gun e.g. the scenery, but again the effects e.g. particle effects make up for this.

One thing I will say though is that the water effect in KZ3 looks great but the water itself does not look right, the wave effect looks right but the water does not look like any water I have ever seen, it's not the best water effect ever as some suggest, maybe this is an area where the GPU does have an effect, when I think water I think Bioshock or Crysis 1.

[Ju]

I almost agree up to the point you brought in the water. Tell us which game has more realistic waves than the ocean scene in KZ3. Inc. the icebergs and the splash effects there in that scope. Are you complaining about the color because it's not Caribbean blue/green ? It's an arctic ocean on a different planet.

Well, arguing to take a away the SPU and use GPU doesn't help either. I am sure Rage doesn't do a lot of geometry processing on the SPUs, either, if it would, we would see twice the polygons in the PS3 version. Maybe they can't. I can imagine, mega texture processing requires some processing power (outside of the GPU) as well. Might as well squeeze the cell a bit. Same thing, if they wouldn't they could use the additional SPU power to render some particles, which they obviously don't do.

And finally, I'd like to see AA in PS3's version of rage. Guess no MLAA either, huh ? Again, requires SPUs texture processing, that could maybe work, in combination with squeezing megatextures through the SPUs (??).

Anyway, Rage looks sharp, no doubt about it. I am not sure if I'll like the game from the theme and gameplay (just my taste). But it is at the level of UC2, or close there, I can agree with that.

[Gen_X]

Aren't you the tool that made that PS3 vs XBox 360 comparison that was in several parts not too long ago? If so--SHUT THE FUK UP! You can take your bias and stick it up your ass dude I really dont care about your technical fud! I'll take IBM's word for it rather than one of you random nobody's with your secret fanboy agenda. Jeez who the fuk do you trust now a day's anyway?

RAGE on the 360 looks better than any top end PS3 exclusive atm--I know you may be having some trouble getting your fat technical head around that but it's true, so man up and deal with it!

[thewhoopimen]

Genx if you can name one major publication that quotes, "RAGE on 360 looks better than any top end PS3 exclusive..." I'll believe you.

Oh wait, we don't have to wait for that. Tell us how RAGE is superior. I'd like to learn about the tech in RAGE beyond the streaming that doesn't exist in other games, especially PS3 1st party titles. Art style? What else?

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Lol at the people that think Killzone is the best graphics ever. Looks like Killzone 3 is using the same blur effects to disguise the low res textures. Not to mention the over use of the color gray. I don't know what planet you guys are living on but Gears of Wars 3 and Rage look better than Killzone 3.

I see most of you guys are still stuck on stupid.

[FollowTheLeader]

Denail is a sign of fear and surrender.

[strickers]

Look at your name.You might as well call yourself "stupid,biased,self important idiot"
You don't like grey,fine but the fx in KZ3 are fantastic,animation,particles, number of physics enabled objects,number of enemies and detail in character models are top notch.Oh and enemy AI is also first class.Gears 3 looks good but not exceptional and as always with gears basic AI,physics,small environments are all part of the parcel.I like Gears a lot but come on.You really are a desperate little boy.

[bjornbear]

it makes you sound so stupid...

[WLPowell]

Why's poor widdle haywo weach twyin to copy him then?

and why is teh almighty crysis devs lowering themselves to compete? they should just blow KZ3 out of the water and call it a day on the PS3 right? why? because there's more to Killzone than what colors are chosen and polygon count. the sum of all of KZ3's engine make the game visually better than anything that's stepped up to the plate.

[tudors]

I agree with you on some points, yes Rage looks amazing but as much as I really rate the 360 I am not sure it could handle all the physics effects going on in KZ3, I will give credit where it is due, the 360 as we have seen with Rage, Gears of War 3 etc does have GPU capabilities on par or better than the PS3, we know this because we have seen it many times, RDR being a good example, but if the DEVS take the time to master the complex setup of the PS3 then clearly some great effects can be achieved which make up for the odd poor texture, KZ3 is very busy, I was not that impressed with KZ2, I will play KZ3 and see if it has the same effect when actually playing but from what I have seen it looks very good.

BTW a console that can number crunch like that should not be having all the framerate issues it does with certain games. Either way the PS3 and the 360 are both fantastic consoles.

[Apone]

All of those games aren't even out yet. So what's the point?

[shysun]

Rage looks awesome, any one who says different is crazy. Better than KZ3 and Crysis IDK it's to early to tell.

[GrandDragon]

RAGE in it's current for actually looks much more smoother and cleaner than KZ3, RAGE uses Mega-textures something which KZ3 does not have.

Using mega textures it keeps the texture consistent on everything in the environment including the character and his guns and they also super hi-res. KZ3's textures aren't always consistent and it's very noticeable from the demo's we've seen.

I'm not hating on any of them as I'm going to be buying all three :)

[Chrissy]

Really pathetic that killzone is getting mentioned so much. A franchisee that deserves to be on the same page as resistance, medal of honor, fear........ Halo is also hugely overhyped although thats only thanks to miscrosoft marketing.

Crysis, Rage obviously look better. Still nobody cares about that since both of those games are bringing something new in the gameplay department while KZ remains generic unoriginal dudebro garbage overhyped trough the edge of the galaxy by desperate people who dont play games.

[Ingram]

You are insulting with an uninformed opinion.

PS:your avatar does not help the cause /jk

[Ingram]

totally unimpressed by rage and crysis 2. I might add, that I expected killzone 3 to look a bit better too.

[INehalemEXI]

I want Doom 4.

[Xfanboy]

Rage to me is underwhelming so far!! This is only hyped up by 360 fanboys!! I really want to see the visual superiority of this game but I don't!!!!
Faces look ok.. Characters move kinda realistic In a retarded way & is Dumb as SH!t half to time!!!

So for now Crysis & Kllzone 3 on my list!! Rage I need to see more...

Rage & Medal of honor people love I just don't see why!!!

Crysis is still the generic nano suit in NY with strength, Cloaking, Armer Mode & Speed modes & is putting alot into story telling, graphcs & 3D just like every other FPS??? What?? People are so quick to say generic when they don't know what to say!! even though they will end up buying it!!!

[condorstrike]

Really...? KZ3 better than Crysis 2...really.

sorry, I don't see it, actually never got KZ2 either, still haven't finished it.
it's just me...I don't know, i just don't find the beauty others do, btw Hate Halo games 2, besides the 1st one, now Crysis was beautiful, stupid story and Cysis 2 seems to deliver both.

I think PS3 fanboys felt so left out they tag KillZone as best looking, I personally can't see it, all i see is nice lighting...sorry.

[bjornbear]

lets wait till all 3 are out...

oh wait, they are all released at different times! =O

honestly, I believe its IMPOSSIBLE to tell atm, and if anything, if we wish to be realistic, we have to just assume all 3 of the games are en par, having their graphical advantages and disadvantages

i can't see any argument that could favour one game over another, unless you consider "level of completion" in which case crysis 2 wins because its being released the earliest *facepalm*

wtv...people looove them flame baits! =P

oh and lol @ everyone's NEED to dethrone KZ2 =P i can see people DYING to finally have KZ2 not be the best looking console game ever, and you can tell they are desperate now if they are comparing unreleased games with eachother.

shame on you, go play KZ2 on an HD screen for the first time and try not to sh!t yourself

[tdinc]

Don't hate,, we all know the truth

Crysis 2 has terrible screen tearing, rage is nothing more then a boarderlands/fallout mashup...yawn

[the_1080p_guy]

Am I the only one to notice that all of these 3 great games are only available on one console ...ps3?

If u are an fps fan,get all of them (of course if u can afford them)

[dethgar]

I honestly hadn't heard of Rage before. Now I wish I still hadn't.