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PlayStation Move Starter Pack Contents Revealed

SCEE will release a PlayStation Move Starter Pack with a recommended retail price (RRP) of €59.99 (UK price to be confirmed), comprising a PlayStation Move motion controller, PlayStation Eye camera and PlayStation Move starter disc. The PlayStation Move starter disc will include demos of many of the Move games available at launch and beyond, including Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11.

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CrazzyMan5079d ago

PlayStation Move navigation controller (formerly known as the sub-controller) will be sold separately.
This should be inclued in that bundle for same 60 euros, maybe 70.
Then Move would be a massive success, But it`s probably because of Nintendo, which also selling Wii nunchuck for aditional price.

The only problem, that all Wii have both controllers, while sub-controller for Move is not included in that bundle, and comes for additional price.
Hovever, that sub-controller will be needed in RE5 or Socom 4 and Sorcery game.
They should make 2 bundles, with sub-controller and without. What Sony is thinking...

yewles15079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

I think that's why they call it a starter pack, while a form of complete pack might be €10 to €20 more...

Update: Navigator is optional.

http://n4g.com/news/546367/...

GrieverSoul5079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

The sub controller is comprised on the left side buttons of a Dualshock 3. Even though its not very easy to, you can use with the Move "wand" with a Dualshock 3.

Nitrowolf25079d ago

i wouldn't mind if they made a bundle without the game and added the sub controller

harv7115079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

Is this the UK starter pack? Because the US started package is shown with Sports Champion.

Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...

falviousuk5079d ago

What no one has picked up on as yet, is that some games require the use of two motion controllers such as the fight game, or the archery game they have shown.

Starter pack =$99.99
Second motion wand = $49.99
Navigator = $29.99
comes to just under $180 US dollars, the you have to add on sales tax, so around 2 hundred dollars for the full single player experience with PS MOVE.

Then of course if you want to have two player, 3 player or even player started adding up the cost of extra motion controllers and navigators, thats a high price top pay for it.

siliticx5079d ago

I'm wondering how youre gonna have a "complete" single player experience. Seriously youre gonna need a 3rd arm. Kind of impossible to hold a navcon AND a 2nd move now does it?

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Leg-End5079d ago

as usual i bet the UK price is like twice the American one.. it always happens, they convert the price and then add more for some reason its crazy.. If its 60 dollars it'll be like a hundred pounds for no apparent reason

ReBurn5079d ago

I think that in a lot of cases that reason is VAT, import and other taxes that many countries like pile onto consumer goods that companies subsequently pass on to consumers. They get you coming and going.

falviousuk5079d ago

When you see American prices listed they dont include the sales tax, similar to VAT in the UK. Sales tax is added when they buy the item as it varies from state to state.
In the UK VAT is always shown included with the price.

Leg-End5078d ago

I guess that kinda explains it, but like when the ps3 was first released in the united kingdom it was £420 (and for some retarded reason i actually bought it).. i mean it surely was never that much in the united states because i rememebr so many people complaining about how sony was charging so much more in england....

Pocker5079d ago

how much is 59.99 euros in dollars? 100$?

Michael-Jackson5079d ago

roughly $75, UK will be a different story though.

CrazzyMan5079d ago

Games HERE also cost 60 euros. Not 60$. It`s Europe.

You can buy 1 new game or you can get this bundle. The only problem, that there is no sub-controller bundle for now, it should come at 70 euro and will be a must buy.)

MajestieBeast5079d ago

Actually a nice deal now i aint forced to buy sports champions and 9i can just buy a sub controller and socom 4. 59,99 is 81 dollars.

ElementX5079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

So I'll have to play $99 for the bundle, plus another $49.99 for a second Move, plus $60 for 2 navigation controllers? That's $210 plus tax! :(

*EDIT*
A disagree? I'm talking U.S.

ReBurn5079d ago

Well, whether people like to admit it or not that appears to be the cost of entry based on the information available. If you don't have a PSEye it's looking to be as much as $130 USD to get Move up and going for one person, then $80 USD for each additional person.

falviousuk5079d ago

some move games require two glowing ball move controllers, so you need to add that price in as well for the full experience. Another $49.99 on top of the $130 plus also you need to add tax.

Newtype5079d ago

Don't need to add tax if you buy it from Amazon. I got prime....there might be game credit later on for it....just buy it from amazon...NO TAX AT ALL.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers18d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g18d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing18d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H918d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola17d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66918d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle18d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg18d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos18d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola18d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies39d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken38d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga38d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken38d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6438d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long38d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197238d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12538d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91338d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer38d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91338d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit38d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher38d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6938d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit38d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher38d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken38d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2338d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218338d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder38d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts38d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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