PlayStation Move Isn't Much More than a Wii HD

I had high hopes for PlayStation Move since its announcement. Having played around with various titles for about an hour today, I have to say: if Sony's technology is better, it isn't showing in its first-gen software.

Frankly, I'm not sure that it ever will.

[dc1]

..this guy would be the lone discontented voice in a room full of very impressed journalist.
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Just saying.....

[ryuzu]

Not much more than "Wii HD" huh? Is that supposed to be a negative thing?

I think Sony would be absolutely ecstatic if this turns out to be as successful as a Wii with HD features. Sales would sky rocket.

r.

[nveenio]

It is the Wii HD, it's just that the graphics aren't the only HD thing about it. The precision is HD, the game quality is HD, the hardcore selection is HD--it's motion control that works, and Sony proved that during their conference. The closest thing to a buggy performance they had was the PGA11 demo, but even that was nothing compared to Nintendo's Zelda demo. They practically had to cancel the demo due to "interference".

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

Kinect isn't much more than EyeToy. Who cares? Is "Wii HD" supposed to be an insult? The Wii is the most successful console of this generation.

[Close_Second]

I agree in part to your statement.

Both the PS3Eye and Kinect are nothing more than webcams with a built in mic. Although the Kinect is more advanced in terms of using a second lens for better dept reception and works in lower light conditions, they both do nothing more than relay image signals to the console, where the real work is done. So, once you add Move into the mix the Sony offering does both motion capture like Kinect and the Wii. Surely this is the best of both worlds?

However, it would not be too difficult for MS to introduce a Move peripheral of their own at some stage. That to me would then give the advantage back to MS.

After all is said and done its the games that will differentiate the MS, Sony and Nintendo offerings in terms of motion controlled games. Basically, if the Wii can do it then I would say that the 360 and PS3 can do it better if for no other reason than they have a hell of a lot more processing might under the hood.

I like Kinect and think it will do well as long as it does not fall into the EyeToy trap. That is, games that appeal to casual gamers only and offer not lasting appeal or depth. However, the problem is, if you use Kinect with an Oblivion style game you have to wonder just how long you'd need to be on your feet...

[nveenio]

I, too, believe that M$ could release a peripheral for use with Kinect. The only roadblock I could see for them would be one of the following:

1) Waiting to see Kinect adoption rates...low adoption = no more hardware.
2) Patents...does Sony own a patent that would prevent M$ from copying their tech (e.g. tracking a piece of hardware with the camera)? I haven't checked into this, but most hardware is always patented.
3) No need...the casual market may eat Kinect up as-is. If they do, M$ won't push it any further. They have a notorious record for only doing "just enough".

[sikbeta]

Totally True Guys, PS3 + Move Deliver More than a wii-HD would ever do, PS3 is the Awesome Gaming Machine That Covers All Kind of Aspects in Gaming, Appealing to Every Kind of Gamers, Built With The Best Tech this Gen, adding Loads of More Features and with an increasing Library of Amazing Games

PS3 = It Only Does Everything

[Corepred4]

sure sounds like it. i thought people were always asking for a wii hd. and now that they it somewhat its a bad thing cuz its from sony? smh

[callahan09]

This guy needs to just stop. Has Gizmodo ever said anything positive about the PS3? They're constantly trolling on the PS3 and anything related to it. In fact, some third-party peripheral manufacturer just released a shoddy controller for PS3 that's vaguely shaped like a 360 controller and Gizmodo goes and writes an article about it saying that it's the best controller available for the PS3 and you might actually be able to enjoy playing your PS3. What the hell is that about? First of all, there's a preference involved. Some people like the Dual Shock more than the 360 controller. I can't stand it when these guys try to make it out like there's some objective fact that the 360 controller is better. Fact: it's not. People have different preferences, deal with it. Second of all, that controller can't hold a candle to any console manufacturer's actual official controller. But of course they say it's better than Sony's controller because they don't do anything but troll on the PS3.

[randomwiz]

http://gizmodo.com/5564434/...
i think this is the first positive...ish thing they've said.

[Christopher]

So... his complaint is that it's no more than the Wii because the casual games sucked?

***Now, whether Sony can make sure a few bad apples don't taint the consumer's perspective of the bunch***

Aided tremendously by journalists who don't have any knowledge of the type of games they're reviewing, of course. I mean, let's call a gesture-based game like Lights Out laggy when in fact it just waits until you complete the full gesture before it performs the on-screen maneuver...

What the heck has happened to game journalism in the last five years? I swear it's like everyone has been lobotomized or something.

"I went to test Diablo, but I couldn't spawn any grunts or anything. Worst RTS ever!"

Edit: Here's what we need - someone with a Wii and the PS Move standing side by side trying out each of the games and detailing how each one is different and how capable each controller scheme is compared to the other. Do this for the sport, party, and hardcore games.

[ThanatosDMC]

"I went to test Diablo, but I couldn't spawn any grunts or anything. Worst RTS ever!"

HAHAHAH! Bubbles up!

[sinclaircrown]

The Wii HD is what people have been asking for! So now you have a 'Wii HD' that's also a PS3, BluRay player with free online gaming, and 3D movie support. Throw on top of that we're in the season of price cuts with new sku's hitting shelves.

Yeah, Sony really dropped the ball here huh?

[syanara]

Wii HD would be great so I consider this a good thing but beyond that Wii Motion Plus doesn't even have anywhere near the accuracy of Move nor the first party support like sony has.

[wages of sin]

That were so very impressed?

[sikbeta]

Playing with a console that Cost Them nothing, you know FREE... oh, someone needs to tell them they can't flip the Thing when it's reading a disc, cos the disc will end up with scratches...

[beardpapa]

It's Wii HD with hardcore games.

[DoomeDx]

Wii-mote = 2D

Playstation move = 3D + Alot more precise + it looks better

[Mista T]

its so frustrating because people always talk out of there ass before looking at the facts, thank you wesley-dw

once again, if anyone didn't catch it, the PS eye detects 3d space

[g0green]

come on guys no reason to be close minded, the moves technology is more advanced and yes it is in hd which gives it an edge over the wii, but this isnt gonna be the end all be all. Apparently just like kinect there is lag and it is not 1:1 as others claimed, there is still several months till release so im sure this can be ironed out and become a great platform

edit: honestly guys ps MOVE receives a little just criticism and everyone calls gizmodo liars and fanboys, they are a tech site not games and they are reporting what they experienced, as far as i know you guys havnt played so you have so no reason to be ignorant

[Seferoth75]

Complete BS. Nice of you Mr T to back someone speaking BS and not the truth.

It doesnt tack in 3D huh kid? Is that why in CoD you zoom in the sniper rifle be moving the controller forward?

All it took was knowing 1 game to know you dont know what you are talking about..

Also from this report it isnt more precise. Who do we believe? Sony fans who think everything they do is perfect or someone who actually used the product when you didnt

It seems the only reason Sony fans are excited is because you all are completely clueless to how it actually works.

[sikbeta]

PS3 + 3D + Move = The Best Way To Enjoy Gaming...

[Grodd]

I wish there was a Wii HD.

[3sq]

Yup, and Nintendo 3DS, graphic wise, is what a Nintendo DS should have been. Instead they gave us DSlite, DSi and DSXL. WTF!? milk milk and milk. Now just release a HD console already Nintendo...or are you gonna milk some more?

[Seferoth75]

Just as many PSP version also. I dont see you crying about that though.

[Bellcross]

Still getting it.

[DoomeDx]

Me to.

im a hardcore gamer myself,
but i love playing casual games with my girlfriend!

[edgeofblade]

Uh huh...

Start swinging a Wii Motion Plus a few times in Sports Resort's sword game and tell me how accurate it is.

Not. Very.

I've said it before... Sony is keeping the promise of 1:1 tracking that Nintendo simply could not.

[NEWSWATCHERS]

Yea and why is Nintendo winning the console race if they couldnt live up to the "1:1" tracking? Mabye cause its pretty accurate for everyone and it will keep selling and selling while Move WONT sell because Wii is the future and the rip offs are not.

[Shadow Flare]

so you want to play crap quality inaccurate games as long as it means the console will sell well. Got it. You might like natal then

[claterz]

The wii's main selling point was never that it was precise, the reason it sells is because it's the only console aimed towards casual gamers who wouldn't want a PS3 or 360. Now that people have seen the precision of the Move they realise how precise the Wii really is.

[kneon]

For the typical casual gamer, and the games they play, accuracy is not necessarily a good thing. They typically don't have the skills to make use of a highly accurate interface, they need more forgiving controls. you can do that in code for an accurate control mechanism but you can't make an inaccurate control system more accurate in code.

The Wii is successful despite it's short comings. All the non-gamers I know that bought a Wii bought one because they played some game at someone house and thought it was fun. Plus there was all the hype about shortages. They didn't realize how quickly the games get boring. Now they rarely use them unless they have friends over. Ours is turned on maybe once a month at most.

[Seferoth75]

@news, you are arguing with fanboys who never used either the Wii remote or Move.
Wii sports resort works perfectly unless you are retarded.

It makes them feel better about Move to make false claims about Wii they cant back up.

@below, if you guys were real gamers you'd already know Move will be better than dual analog. Its just as accurate as the Wii and its the superior way to play FPS on consoles.

If you maybe broadened your horizons a little, you would gain so much more knowledge about gaming.

Disagree all you want but you guys are getting excited over what Wii owners had for FPS controls for almost 4 years now and acting like it is something big and new.

[MysticStrummer]

Don't be silly, NEWSWATCHERS. Nintendo is winning because casual games with motion controls are easily accessible to the masses. Wii is accurate enough for casual games, not for the kinds of games that hardcore gamers want to play. Kinect may be precise also, but the lack of a controller severely hampers it's potential to be used with hardcore titles. Microsoft will eventually introduce a controller to go along with Kinect, which will immediately negate the "look ma, no controller" novelty factor. Both systems will sell, but I don't see how it can be argued that Move isn't clearly better overall.

[OhReginald]

Playstation MOVE support in KILLZONE 3 . Nuff' Said.

[iHEARTboobs]

Nuff said, again.

[DoomeDx]

Sounds awesome.
wonder how it works though, because in multiplayer..either the Move players, or the dualshock players MIGHT have an advantage

but knowing GG, they will keep it in mind.

[Shadow Flare]

Killzone will probably use this:

http://www.pushsquare.com/w...

I suspect if you get really good at it, who knows, you could be better then a dualshock player

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

According to Zipper, the Move players completely obliterate the Dualshock 3 players.

It will probably have separate servers for both.

Unreal Tournament 3 had "mouse and keyboard only" matches and "no keyboard or mouse" matches. That was a great move on Epic's part.

[ChozenWoan]

I'd keep the matches free for all.

When Shockers get tired of getting owned by Movers... then they will swallow their pride and step their game up, Thus more hardware sales.

Of coarse... as I said, this is what I would do if I was Sony.

[n4gno]

gizmodo crap :)

[NEWSWATCHERS]

Sony fanboy pissed off at the truth

Disagree button below!

[saint_john_paul_ii]

nah, i would rather press that red box to take your bubble instead for trolling.

[ChozenWoan]

And I will bestow upon you my blessing...

+1 2U

[Jsynn7]

And Kinect is a next-gen eyetoy. So what?

[Nike]

Next-gen? I'm pretty sure it sets the concept back by a gen or two.

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

Am I the only one who's excited for Time Crisis Razing Storm? Got even more excited when I learned it includes Time Crisis 4 + Dead Pirates. lol

[clintos59]

that these morons talking down on the move, i guess they want to act like sorcery never was shown at the sony conference which was showcasing just how advanced ps move is compared to the wii mote plus. funny thing is they took an unknown franchise aka sorcery and brang it to life with ps move making every harry potter fan out there drool for the ps move. for those who try an say the wii has done that already, prove it, show me one game on the wii that uses motion controllers to the level which sorcery was being played with ps move, i bet u wont find a game because even the crowd at e3 was amazed by sorcery. i cant wait to see more of sorcery which already makes the wiimote plus for zelda look like garbage lol.

[nemrawy]

Natal isn't much more than a PS-EYE!!!! See what I did there......XD

[NEWSWATCHERS]

Cause its true! Sony just copied the wii and I hope they fail because of it!

And you stupid Sony fanboys
Kinect is not a "nex gen" Eye toy? Eye toy is just a stupid camera as a PS2 product.

Now Kinect has
It enables users to control and interact with the Xbox 360 without the need to touch a game controller through a natural user interface using gestures, spoken commands,or presented objects and images.

PS Eye doesnt have that, its just a stupid camera

AND!!!

The technology behind Kinect took Microsoft Research twenty years of development, according to Robert J. Bach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

So Now I bet you are going to post PS move was in devlopment before the Wii but why didnt Sony say "If we release this they will say we are copying Wii" and never released it? They want to show how much they can copy something before they get caught. Even Ninteno said they love gimmicks (PS MOVE)

[raztad]

copy? meh it doesnt matter when the final product is better by a mile.

[URIELXIV]

Cause its true! Microsoft just copied the Playstation Eye and I hope they fail because of it!

see wat i did thar

[Gun_Senshi]

Sony was going experiment with this technology on PS2 to work with EyeToy, before Wii even exsisted

[chiwoo]

I dont think its gonna Fail Plus Microsoft the one putting everything on Kineck to be sure its a Hit plus if it does not do that well Sony Still got there PS3, PSP, PS2 and new Psn to sell plus its like KB said who would want to pretend there hands is a gun GOTCHA!!!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

PlayStation Eye DOES have that.

Proof: http://www.youtube.com/#/wa...

[yewles1]

Fix the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

There you go.

[jack_burt0n]

49.99

[Akagi]

I wonder if Gizmodo paid to play MOVE.

[BannedForNineYears]

Kinect isn't much more than an inaccurate Eyetoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Kinectic:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ChozenWoan]

I didn't know MS had that game out years ago for Kinect...
... ohh this is for the eyetoy... lol... sorry bots for getting your hopes up.

[BannedForNineYears]

Wow Alfa...........
Just......Wow...........
And the funny thing is.......Eyetoy has absolutely NO lag.

[Delta_Z3RO5]

so its true the xbox fanboys are in pain

[bobrea]

OMG WHAT A REVOLUTIONARY THOUGHT. I DONT THINK ANYONE HAS THOUGHT OF THIS YET!!

[Megahurtz1986]

I don't see why there is so much hate for Playstation. I mean if it wasn't for them the gaming industry wouldn't be where it is 2day. They made gaming cool. Took if from a kids toy to mainstream. Pay homage people pay homage.

[Gun_Senshi]

Sony was going experiment with this technology on PS2 to work with EyeToy, before Wii even exsisted

You can check on youtube

[49erguy]

One of those things you can't watch or read. You gotta try it yourself. Dev said that on ping pong you can "feel" the impact of the ball on the move controller. I cannot fathom how awesome that feels so yeah. I HAVE to see for myself.

[pandaboy99]

You internet folks have fallen right into this writers trap.... he gets the web hits and the internet crowd fights amongst themselves. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

[creepjack]

Yeah, this guy needs to stop. Doesn't he know its only cool to bust on Xbox Kinect?

[etownone]

Lol ... Only in the world of N4G

[djfullshred]

Maybe an HD version of the Wii is a good product to have on the market (although I admit motion control isn't in my interest). There seems to be some unreasonable expectations these new motion controllers have to be the most revolutionary thing ever created before anyone will buy them. Let's face it...these new products are very specific to target the audience that can currently only get that type of game play on Wii.

[etownone]

You just gotta luv the Sony fankids/hypocrites on this site.

For the last four years, Sonyfans are bashing Wii and their
motion control .... Now it's like,

"Move is the new Wii-HD, this is awesome!"

lmao !
This site never ceases to amuse me.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Wii Motion plus can't do what Move can do in different Technics.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Isn't the Move what people wanted the Wii to be in the first place?

[Raoh]

no problem.. without reading the article, i've told friends that i would much rather play resident evil 4 on the wii over the gamecube or playstation of xbox..

resident evil 4 wii style with ps3 graphics?

i'll take that in a heart beat.. friend at gamestop printed out the latest release dates for games...

i'm reserving 2 playstation move sets, i already have the camera

[Darkfiber]

I don't understand why one controller is half the price of the entire system. It should be like $39.99 with both parts, and $59.99-$69.99 with cam. The price they are charging for this stuff is insulting. I hope nobody buys them and they discontinue the entire Move thing and admit that they were idiots for thinking tons of people would actually pay that much money for this.

[Johnny Rotten]

it is overpriced, with MOVE it's all about branding and in relation to the wii's success the only way to do that now is to cut the cost and get these suckers into people's homes.

[testerg35]

So you guys call them "journalist" when they say something negative about Kinect, but when they say something bad about Move they're xbots.

[earbus]

Lol move did look precise in the tiger demo ha ha joy the main thing thats turns me off ps3 is the fans when i read the comments it fills me with regret for my purchase u fans are hurting the image of ur godsole and u dont even know it .