Rumor: Valve’s E3 surprise is Source Engine 2

VG247: A source close to VG247 has revealed that Valve’s “surprise” at E3 will be the unveiling of Source Engine 2.

[jay2]

It better be a much better engine.

[Eamon]

It should be. The Source engine was a huge leap from their old one.

[Corrwin]

Their old one for Half Life was modified Quake 1 engine... Anything was better than that!

In terms of features though, Source didn't have anything other engines didn't already have (aside from maybe facial expressions) - In fact it was a step backwards in some places: No real-time reflections (like in a mirror or water surface), they invested a great deal in multiple camera angles, but we didn't see much of it until Portal.

[Conloles]

Hell yes this will be awesome, cant wait to see the full power unleashed on PC

[meetajhu]

I think this is the reply Valve is got for PS3 owners. An optimized engine to run on PS3 which the Source was not able to do properly. Innovation starts from Playstation brand! I remember buying Half-life 1 for ps2 with better graphics.

[Olly]

Gabe sounds pretty much like he doesn't like the PS3 as a platform and what it 'stands for' from what he's said.
I wouldn't go thinking this is the answer just yet, though it may have been developed as a cross-platform engine. Actually, now I think about it you sound about right. Maybe they made sure they made an engine they knew would work for the PS3 since they released the first two episodes on the PS3 and kinda need to release the third.

Eh, we'll see XD.

[gtamike]

It's Half Life 2 running on project natal, cause there was a leaked video about 3 months ago. (someone playing)

[Inside_out]

Well, whatever engine they make, it will be PC architecture...Cell Processor is a thing of the past...Sony has already said it will not use the cell in the next PS....still...Valve would be crazy to ignore 35 million gamers on PS3...they would make good customers on their bread and butter Steam enterprise... ;~D

[zaz12]

WOW this fanboy does not know anything

[DeadlyFire]

Sony has said no such thing. IBM says they are done with advancing Cell technology. There is a new line up of Cell chips for 2010 and then IBM is out.

They could easily setup Source 2 engine for PC, X360 and PS3.

[ProjectVulcan]

Source is a good, efficient flexible engine on PC. It doesnt seem to work well on the consoles though. The likes of left 4 dead on 360 miss out on a lot of the Pc visual effects, and run without anti aliasing etc. However, you can get all that on an exceptionally low end Pc graphics card, technically slower than 360's GPU. Even a radeon 4550 runs a lot of source games better than 360 (its not even what i would call a gaming card per se, its a HTPC product) although source can be quite CPU bound, which might explain this.

I think if valve realy want to exploit the consoles further this generation, they need some serious modification of source. Either a version of the engine heavily optimised for console, or a complete new package with more console bias

[SKCShifty]

What am i suppose to do with a engine? i wanna play a game like Half a friggin Life 3 not no damn engine.

[TheIneffableBob]

Obviously a game will be built with the engine.

[kaos_fish II]

Yeah, but knowing Valve, how long will it be until we see said game..?

[young juice]

garrys mod 11(12)?

but you wouldnt know about that since your pc cant even handle the oldest,funnest most pc friendly engine in the world

[Harry190]

like something that would be announced at GDC rather than E3.

[koehler83]

I agree with that logic.

[TheIneffableBob]

The primary announcement will be a game, probably Half-Life 3, and that game will be built on Source Engine 2, so I think E3 is fine for this kind of announcement.

[mirroredderorrim]

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[Jacobite]

they would be needing new engine by now

[earbus]

Garys mod will be sick on source 2 , source one was almost as versatile as unreal engine.

[ApexHell]

if its true we can then wait for counterstrike 3

[XactGamer]

I would like Counterstrike 2 first

[lpfisher]

They wont just announce Source 2 and walk off the stage... an announcement like that is guaranteed to come with a few games. If you read the article, he mentions that all of Valve's engines have been announced with a Half-Life game. I'm 99% sure they're going to announce Half-Life 3

[jmd749]

just thinking of the mods. *collapses* :)

[mamac123]

OMG i so want half life 3 to be announced at E3 with source 2

[killingbuzzton]

Oh please god let this be true! I remember when they first showed the source engine, i have not been that blown away by anything gaming related in my whole life. If this is true i hope it will be as big of a jump forward as the source engine was.

[OpenGL]

This would be a dream come true.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Well the other article says half life 3 will be at E3 so this makes sense.

[Alcohog]

If true, that means HL3 is definitely coming...and it will only be for PC.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Ha! Keep dreaming, Valve won't skip the xbox. It's not like they can't simultaneously develop both versions.

edit: xbox and ps3 can't handle a much better engine than source?? What are you talking about? It came out in 2004, xbox in 2005 and ps3 in 2006. The hardware inside the xbox and PS3 and can easily handle the source engine.

[killingbuzzton]

I actually hope you're right. At least that it starts out that way and then later it can be ported to the next generation of consoles. No need to bring a new engine to the 360 or PS3 since they wouldn't be able to handle much a better engine than source.

[chak_]

HL3 <3

[spenn2010]

I haven't upgraded my PC since 2007 since the hackers took over Counter strike source and all my other gaming needs have been met by owning a PS3 and 360. PC gaming isnt dying all but quality PC gaming is. Playing Counterstrike every night after work hack free was the best video game experience i have ever had. But nerds and no lifers just had to ruin the game and i dont care what anybody on N4G has to say, the cheaters RUINED the GAME.

If Valve created a new engine and announced a new Counter strike or Halflife 3 i would consider spending a couple hundred dollars on upgrading, but IMO they have been living fat off of hosting digital mediocre PC games on steam so who knows if their interesting in making another great game. Portal?? No thanks i prefer competition in a shooter setting, or a great story in a action setting. Halflife 1 will go down as one of the best games ever created so why waste time making portal? Where episode 3? WTF Gabe remove yourself from the Hibachi Buffet and get to making the best PC games ever made, WTF its been 6 years lol.

A lot of you kids here on N4G state that Valve may be lazy and thats why they dont prefer to deal with the PS3 and i'm starting to think those rants may not not be far off. But thats whole other discussion lol. I just want one of my favorite DEVS make a exceptional PC and PS3 game. L4D is for hardcore zombie fans and it was built on a 6 year old engine so lets go!!! Valve i want to see a game with uncharted 2 tech and a Halflife story or a game with unmatched tech and offers the fun that Counterstrike had.

[ColdFire]

Hmm, I agree with new engine, and new CSS :D
PC gaming dying, no, changing, in lots of good ways, I have tried consoles but still finding PC better for my gaming needs. TBH,as much as I want Source 2, L4D2 maxed in full HD on PC looks better than most console games, there are exceptions. So the 6 years old engine is not HUGE issue.

[LOLconsoles]

I hope half life 3 gets announced...

[Raider69]

Valve dont give a SH%T about PS3,if theres ever a Source engine 2 in works it will be PC and Xbox 360 specs inbound!?

[gypsygib]

STFU Valve and finish what you started - one of the best FPS games ever. Enough with LFD.

[Hazmat13]

ok i played Half Life 2 and Ep 1&2 on the PS3 and I loved it i didnt care about the graphics (also alex V is fucking hot!) i just loved the voice acting gameplay story everything but i dont mind a fresh look on a already perfect game i just really hope Half Life 3 will be on PS3 & 360 plz no PC fanboy comment we are all gamers here. respect.

[kwyjibo]

Source has been continually updated, and was built that way. It might lack the technical prowess of a CryEngine, but Valve have never needed that, relying instead on outstanding art direction.

[boom4u]

Valve is insignificant... When they figure out how to program a computer with more than 3 cores I will pay attention to them, they are lazy developers and therefore I am lazy to give them any money.

[Pandamobile]

TF2 scales up to utilize my 4 cored and 8 threaded CPU's.

Your argument is invalid.

[Xfanboy]

Oh!! I see Your single core PS3 owner!! lmao!!

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[Xfanboy]

My PC will orgasm

[Olly]

Makes a lot of sense, simply because the newest hardware survey and the recent kerfuffle with updating HL2 show that there are always consumers they're leaving behind if they try and move further with the original engine. And as much as Valve would like to support everyone on one engine, it's getting to be toomuch hassle and pretty much not a viability.
However, I'm slightly annoyed since this inevitably means the next Half-Life instalment will take even longer than forever, and even more likely is the non-existence of Ep.3 :/.

[Xfanboy]

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