Enslaved NOT 'as beautiful' As Uncharted 2, Says Xbox 360

NG: We've had hands-off demos of Enslaved. Way to jump the gun, people. Some of us sat at the very same gameplay preview and, while we saw a vibrant, dramatic and often gorgeously animated world, on a purely visual level, it came nowhere near the heady heights of Uncharted 2...

[FangBlade]

"As it stands, Uncharted 2’s texture detail is second-to-none, draw distances are positively gobsmacking... the Xbox 360 cannot physically hold a candle to the game"

"Even if the 360 could crunch the numbers (which it most certainly can’t), there’s also the small matter of storage space. 50 GBs on a Blu-ray versus the 360’s paltry 6.8GB of dusty old DVD space? Even if the machine could process the texture and model detail of Uncharted 2 (which, as we’ve said, it can’t), there’d be nowhere to hold all the information for it to process, anyway."

Music to my ears.

[El Botto]

The article speaks the truth. And the fanboys know it.
Observe as the damage control begins.

[Rainstorm81]

Was ninja theory wrong when they said Naughty Dog was the best devs right now?

Which is it? Are they the best or can they be matched by a company with one game im confused.

BTW everything NT has said recently is THIER opinion, including the statement above. Everything these devs say isnt fact.

[Kleptic]

DMason, it wasn't Ninja Theory that said Enslaved looked better than Uncharted, even on 360...it was some blog yesterday after watching 20 minutes of gameplay...

its simply a well written article to point out how retarded it is when people try to trivialize the visual fidelity of games like Uncharted 2...a multiplatform title will NEVER be as impressive visually, its simply not how multiplatform development works this generation...

[Godmars290]

One sad thing this gen is showing, DMason, is that statements taken from dev, such as Square, Remedy, cannot be taken at face value.

Can't really trust articles like this either for that matter.

[kancerkid]

I guess you are the fanboy then (el botto) for not even acknowledging the facts. The fact is Ninja Theory said the animation of Enslaved would be as beautiful as Uncharted's.

[starchild]

@kleptic

Hey buddy you are talking out your you know what. It wasn't some blog writer after watching a video, it was a reviewer from CVG that said it after he did a preview of the game and saw it running in front of him.

[Oldsnake007]

They said it would be as beatiful as Uncharted not Uncharted 2 lol.

[AssassinHD]

You have it wrong too. They said it was "as beautifully animated as Uncharted". That is not the same thing as being "as beautiful".

[darx]

And what are his credentials?

[headcasechris]

Comment of the year :)

[klado]

Joking!!! LOL, indeed comment of the year.

[HINDERIZATION]

XD

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

I'm Xbox 360.

[HINDERIZATION]

what are your credentials?

[36T]

Saaking, you must feel so special. Get a friend. Internet friends don't count. lol!

[extermin8or]

is ur psn fanblade?lol

[MNicholas]

I'm sure they'll do a fine job. They have a good engine with features like depth of field, cloth simulation, HDR, 4xAA, etc.

However, suggesting that it will match Uncharted 2 when no multiplatform game (or 360 exclusive) has come close is beyond ridiculous.

[jakethemuss]

Are you seriously implying that an entity can only be 100% right or 100% wrong? Lol.

[Dance]

they manged to fit red dead on xbox disc and even in hd

[ShinMaster]

Geez, is that the only game you guys like to troll about every time? Lol
It's like one game out of several sub-hd games on 360 that's actually in HD.
If you like that, then FF13 says hi again.

[SaberEdge]

ShinGino, what an absolutely ignorant comment. You do realize that there are more games on the PS3 that are sub-HD than there are on the 360? Check out the following list http://forum.beyond3d.com/s... Do you notice how many multiplatform games that are full 720p on the 360 that are sub-HD on the PS3?

As far as exclusives being sub-HD, well both consoles have them. MGS4 and the Ratchet & Clank games on the PS3, and Halo 3 and Alan Wake on the 360.

[ShinMaster]

I never said the PS3 didn't have any more or less games in sub-hd.

[man0fsteel]

i'm sorry but comparing whats packed into Uncharted on one disc compared to whats packed into RDR one disc is like comparing a New York Strip steak to a Box of Steak-Ums

[ABizzel1]

To be fair Heavenly Sword was a great looking game, and Ninja Theory should be able to make a much better looking game since it's been 3 years since Heavenly Sword.

The article said Uncharted, so could anyone specify if they actually said Unchated 2.

If not then their statment is somewhat true, because the game looks slightly less impressive than Uncharted 1 graphically which is not an insult since Uncharted 1 is still one of the best looking games this gen.

I expect this game to be on the level of Uncharted 1, since Ninja Theory themselves stated they following in the foots of Naughty Dog and trying to create something similar to Uncharted, but with this being their first attempt I expect it to fall just short of the mark Uncharted 1 set back in 2007.

I expect a lot of 8/10's for this game.

[Double Toasted]

nowgamer? Pffttt *FACEPALM* LLLLLOOOLLL!!!

Edit: What is nowgamer going to say when Crysis 2, Brink, Rage, Gears 3 comes out? Guess what? All those games are on the 360! Way to lose cred with your flamebait artcicle, before I even knew or heard of you. Funny, I now know you because of this article, lol. But at the same time its rather sad...

[n4gno]

Yeah yeah pure fan in total denial, you were also saying before "wait for halo 3" "wait for alan wake" etc etc

and everyone can see that even if you are excited years before games come, with trailers (not made by 360), not a single game can compete with KZ2, uncharted 2, or even ratchet and clank (etcetc), on xbox360

[WetN00dle69]

Meh, KZ2 although great is nothing special, just hope they fix the crane legs for KZ3. As for uncharted 2 now that game is amazing!

[bobcostus]

Oh my flipping GOD will you people give it a rest? WHO $&*#ing cares!? As long as the game is enjoyable and looks decent, it shouldn't have to match uncharted 2. Uncharted 2 was amazing, Enslaved will be good as well.

I'm getting so tired of this site and all the commenter just waiting to argue about which system is better or which game looks the best.

Red Dead Redemption is a perfect example that a game can be both good looking and play extremely well across both platforms.

[FACTUAL evidence]

Doesn't matter. Enslaved doesn't even look as good as heavenly sword, and that's FACTUAL!

[CellularDivision]

Factual, your opinion is not FACTUAL. You can say HS is technically superior to Enslaved, which might be true, but saying it looks good as HS sounds more like an opinion. Opinions are not facts. Graphics can look "good" to some others, while look like crap to others. Look at Okami.

Think about it, there are people who think UC2 looks better than Crysis. Of course, Crysis would then be dismissed, as it is on the master platform, so it would be deemed unfair.

[Shepherd 214]

Sounds like this site has a vendetta out for the 360. They stated that the 360 couldnt handle it three time in a paragraph that is less than five sentences long.

I also dont believe Naughty Dog is the best devs this gen. They are up there, but they dont really know how to stay in touch with a community.

But hey, theyre good at making high-res textures and models, which is what keeps you coming back to a game, right?

[NYPunk88]

Just bought UC1 for $20. Sweet.

@Cold 2000

Apparently you cared enough to make a post about it. Poor insecure little gamer.

[wages of sin]

Really dude, really...
Uncharted 1 and 2 are great games. And allthough I haven't played them in awhile (sitting on my PS3 shelf)I respect them as great games. However, imo, UC2 is WAY overrated. Great game to be sure, but the be all end all? Not even close. However, that's how it goes for PS3 exclusives. They tend to be awesome yet very over rated.

When Mario Galaxy 2 wins game of the year; which it should and will, watch the SDF go into hyper spin mode.

[tplarkin7]

I have played about 20 minutes of Uncharted 2 at my cousin's house. In that 20 minutes, I saw nothing that was fundamentally different than anything on 360. The textures were not perfect, either.

I'm only saying this because many people keep beating the drum that UC2 is the second coming of video games. I want to see a tangible comparison to demonstrate the differences.

Perhaps Gears vs UC2? Or, whatever is considered the best 360 game vs UC2.

[squallheart]

make sure you have a decent hd set up. I played on a 65 inch tv with 7.1 and wow. I would mention god of war but have yet to play it since I have a back log of games i have to catch up.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

God of War 3 is the best looking console game...followed by Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2.

The only 360 game that looks anywhere close to them is Metro 2033. It's gorgeous!

The best looking games in general are Crysis with mods, Metro 2033 on PC, and God of War 3.

I honestly don't know how you can state differently.

[rockleex]

If the 130+ agrees hurt you that much, please at least TRY to provide a counterpoint to what FangBlade quoted.

It would, at the very least, make you sound more intelligent rather than coming off as an insecure fanboy.

But like usual, 360 fanboys CAN'T provide counterpoints. They always rely on shifting the conversation somewhere else instead.

[beardpapa]

FangBlade's comment shows at least 130 fanboys from one console and at least 30 fanboys from another that bumped into this article. =)

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

No factual evidence to any of the wild claims from a journalist none the less. Yet, Fangblade got 141 agrees to 33 disagrees at the time of this writing.

This site users are certainly skewed on one platform. Doesn't matter, I still enjoy all my consoles.

[freshPiMP91]

I agree with what was written ( because we havent seen anything on 360 come close to Uncharted 2 on PS3) but WOW...the amount of agrees you got SHOWS that this site is FULL OF PS3 fanboys. If this isnt proof...idk wat is. Hilairous haha

[vhero]

Who cares?? Give us real gaming news already! Am I the only one sick of hearing about this and that game being compared to uncharted?? Give it a rest already..

[Bigpappy]

This is not a 360 game. The game is also on the PS3. They could easily use bluray to make it look better than Uncharted if the writer thinks that makes UC2 unbeatable. This sounds like a how dear you mention a 360 game and graphics against the mighty UC2 on PS3. The problem there is: the game is olso on PS3 and being made by a developer who knows the system quit well.

Straight up fanboy article.

[DevastationEve]

People should just give up on them honestly, all they seem to play over and over are their stupid jabs at Microsoft for not supporting bluray.

It's why their console sales have always been strong and why people still buy Xbox 360.

On topic, Enslaved comes from the guys who made one of the best looking first generation PlayStation 3 titles and now that they've gone multiplatform they're being treated like they don't exist.

Enslaved will easily beat Uncharted 2.

Xbox 360 will continue to prove that HD gaming doesn't need bluray. Sony will continue to shove bluray down gamers' throats in order to make them believe games need bluray out of the box but not an HDMI cable.

[yewles1]

And as usual, ApocalyPS3 still has his own "ApocalyPS3" over the fact that the PS3 is here to stay. XD

[SaberEdge]

God, these guys are such PS3 fanboys. Nearly everything I see from them always has some positive PS3/anti-360 spin. What a joke.

[Dirk Benedict]

it might be music to your ears, but to me it is known gospel, since 2006.

[Tachyon_Nova]

"Dusty old DVD", Crysis says hello directly from my DVD drive. The problem is more the fact that it has no hardrive in the arcade model than the available space on a DVD...

Either way, you could tell right from the first screens that the game (Ensalved) was gonna be nowhere near the graphics level of UC2, it looks pretty much the same as Heavenly Sword to be honest.

[Feckles]

Simple logic.

[THC CELL]

lol no game on xbox 360 looks as good as uncharted 1 so where did 2 come from ?

3 + dis
name ya games

[Crusade]

The logic!!! IT BURNS

[bviperz]

That was good!

Now off to wipe my drink from my nose...

[stonecold1]

is my favourite game this gen but it well never be up there with uncharted 2 or with naughty dog and ps3 is going on up from here in the graphics department no other console is no match for the ps3 end of statement

[Tachyon_Nova]

Uncharted 2 is my favourite game but it will never be up there with uncharted 2. WTF?

[SephireX]

Obvious statement. UC2 can only be beaten by another PS3 exclusive. The 360 simply hasn't got the hardware and M$ don't have classy first party studios such as ND and GG.

[Hyrius]

No game will look as good as Uncharted 2 on consoles, except other PS3 exclusives.

[FanboyAttack]

Further proof the fanboyism finds its way to even the most "credible" gaming websites.

[Crusade]

Facts have a PS3 bias.

[Gamester101]

Nowgamer is a terrible site. All I ever see from there is flamebait.

[NYPunk88]

@UserThree Denial is bitch isn't it. If you don't want to take their word for it then let the facts speak for themselves. Just look the game lineup for the Xbox and compare it to the PS3...not one, exceeds the level of quality and graphics of any of the PS3 exclusives. Not even one. What more do you need? It's all right in front of you.

[trounbyfire]

never going to happen if they mean UC2

[BABY-JEDI]

Just look at the footage. No offense to Ninja, but Uncharted is in it's own league. But hey, when it comes out it will be even clearer to see ; )

[DigitalAnalog]

But graphically, it can't touch Uncharted 1. And that speaks leagues of an exclusive engine built from the "ground up". I will still buy this game though, looks like they took some queues from Uncharted 2 (like the ladder scene)

-End statement

[dragonelite]

Wow dam this article is so wrong on so many levels they should take graphics rendering 101 first before talking about power of each console.

And the cell is used for geometry and vertex calculation not sure about this?

Biggest constrain on texture is ram which the 360 gpu has a bigger pool for it because it has a shared ram pool of 512mb while the rsx only has access to 256mb.
Its all documented just take the effort to look it up.
[url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Dam why did i take the effort to do this stupid mistake maybe, i hope atleast i sparked someone interest and he will read up on this stuff that would justify the effort i took.

[Apolloeye]

The PS3 can access up to 512MB of RAM if it is required.

[dragonelite]

It's possible but the transmission is really slow between the two pools of ram im told.

[mynd]

No console can acces the entire 512mb of ram, however the PS3 even less so, as it uses more memory for the OS then the 360 requires.

Also the PS3 has some very stricy cavets reqarding texture fetchs from XDR->RSX.

Which is why the Cell is used mainly for vertex manipulation/massaging,this reualts in smoother animations, however cutting edge devs (and ND is certianly one of those), are now pushing traditional post processing effects from the RSX onto the Cell.

Thats about the only advantage in any one given frame.
There is no "texture" advantage on the PS3 in any one given frame, however over an entire game or level, Im sure the Blu-ray storage capacity helps out immensly.

[Apolloeye]

mysd speaks the truth of course it cannot use all of it (unless you want to have no XMB and only one game). The Cell and RSX have been designed to work together.

dragonelite some reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Oner]

@ dragoelite ~ What you where "told" was incorrect and misinformed. Read through Appoloeye's post and these 2 if you need a laymans description ~ http://talkplaystation.com/... & http://www.overclockers.com...

The additional issue is that people are stuck on the nomenclature of the comparing the PS3 to a PC and the 360 as such, which makes sense because the 360 is more LIKE a PC so it is easier to relate to. But when the PS3 is compared the same way it is an improper fit, simply because the PS3 does not handle programming in the same way. You have to look at the PS3 as a whole piece and not in pieces i.e. the sum is greater than the pieces of it's whole. EVERYTHING together is what makes the PS3 more "powerful" from the Cell to the Ram to the Speed of the bandwidth on the MB and how the games being on a BD disc helps as well. You can't analyze a specific part on the PS3 because they all work cohesively to make the end product be "better" and the proof is verifiable by all from the technically savvy to the regular Joe with just their eyes!

But the bottom line is simply this...after 5 years the 360 has NEVER put out ANY game that has matched a PS3 Exclusive (even early ones at that, not to mention let alone newer titles like KZ2/GoW3/UC2/GT5). There is not ONE SINGLE game on the 360 that can match in terms of scale, graphics, textures, physics, draw distances and more like GoW3 & UC2.

There isn't one. Hasn't happened yet. And that's because it's not possible on the 360. IF & WHEN there is one I will happily rebuke my comment and stand proudly corrected...but until that day the facts are, as I just explained. Certain types of people will undoubtedly cry, complain and try to argue OTHER points, but will skirt around addressing SPECIFICALLY what I said to attempt to make a case about how I and others in the industry are "wrong". With nothing more than their words of conjecture, speculation, misinformed/incorrect "theoretical data" and pure base opinion of which means nothing in the real world until someone shows a title that is available RIGHT NOW that is on par with just 1 of the 2 titles I named above (GoW3 & UC2).

Ain't gonna happen because there isn't one. PERIOD.

[chad22hkd]

I think I started this discussion when I was informing shaman of the ps3 architecture. But you can't see my reply to him now. Because his comment is hidden. :/ But sometimes I love to bring out true specs. Because it actually temps true intelligent gamers to comment. This is how N4G should be. Where we can come not to argue but to debate and teach each other. I knew some about the ps3 unique architecture But you guys know tons more than me even. So it's awesome I get to learn some just from reading your comment. Thanks

[dragonelite]

I did mention that the cell is used for geometry and vertex calculations.
Maybe you should read the link you posted.
The spu dont have direct access to the main ram.

[quote]Note that the SPU cannot directly access system memory; the 64-bit virtual memory addresses formed by the SPU must be passed from the SPU to the SPE memory flow controller (MFC) to set up a DMA operation within the system address space.[/quote]

I do think that devs will go this way with the cell.

Render frame X+1 on the rsx while frame X gets post processed by the cell. That the most logical way i think most devs will use the cell maybe use one or two spu for vertex and geometry calculations for frame x+2 and the rest for post processing.

[radphil]

See the thing behind all this, is that the specs are mainly worth jack to the average consumer if no devs are using it to the potential.

For example a new console could have like 5GB of RAM made in it, but it wouldn't matter throwing that number around if Devs only use up to 1GB.

[n4gno]

You can trust reality or not, spin it as you want, the reality is :

ps3 is more complicated to work with, ps3 came one year after the xbox, and despite all that, we can see the most beautifull games on ps3 since 2008....just facts, don't use your time trying to understand memory transfer ;) (by the way, ps3 use a way better memory than xbox)

Lol@the Xfanboyz talking about "dammage control article" for ps3 fanboyz, very funny, when you know "dammage control" is a thing they have invented and use every days (to help forgetting ps3 is not doomed, sell better than xbox, and have the better game, with better graphisms + bluray, internet, etc)

[nickjkl]

wait isnt 256 mb of ram at 3.2 ghz + 256 mb of ram at 700 Mhz equivalent to like 1280MB in total bandwidth @700 Mhz

[JustTheFactsMr]

"It's possible but the transmission is really slow between the two pools of ram im told."

Yeah it "slows" down to the same 700Mhz the 360 uses for ALL it's RAM. Because only HALF of the PS3 RAM runs as "slow" as the 360.

The 256MB XDR RAM runs @ 3.2 GHZ which is 4.5X FASTER than the 360 RAM. 4.5x FASTER.

All of a sudden it starts to sink in why UC2, GOW3, GT5, KZ2 are heads and shoulders above. Not to mention the parallel nature of the SPU's as the cherry on top.

[OpenGL]

Sure the CLOCKSPEED is 4.5x higher, but the 256MB of XDR is on a more narrow memory bus. The Cell's 256MB of XDR has about 25.6GB/s of memory bandwidth compared to the Xbox 360 or the RSX's DDR3 both of which have about 22.4GB/s.

[nickjkl]

25.6 GB/s isnt that the same memory bandwidth of the core i7

[Tachyon_Nova]

You cant compare CPU bandwith to RAM bandwith, because the CPU has to compute information, the ram doesn't. In any case, heres some stats for you. Bandwith of the PS3's RSX: 22.4GB/s. Bandwith of GTX 300: 300-370GB/s. Texture fill rate of RSX: 13.2GTexels/s. Texure fill rate of GTX 300 ~90GTexels/s. Ouch!

[OpenGL]

@ #13.4.2
Technically, but I don't know how that's relevant as you wouldn't be limited to only 256MB of RAM with a Core i7 based system.

@#13.4.3
A stock GTX 480 has 177.4GB/s of memory bandwidth, not 300-370GB/s.

[JustTheFactsMr]

"Sure the CLOCKSPEED is 4.5x higher, but the 256MB of XDR is on a more narrow memory bus. The Cell's 256MB of XDR has about 25.6GB/s of memory bandwidth compared to the Xbox 360 or the RSX's DDR3 both of which have about 22.4GB/s."

Your missing the point. The CPU is waiting around on the memory to complete copy and moves etc if the RAM is slower than the CPU.

Why do you think PC's have small expensive high-speed RAM caches? Usually of only a few megabytes. To avoid as many misses as possible and having no data for the CPU to work on.

The XDR ram doesn't hold up the CPU like it does on the 360 or PC's for that matter.

It's running at the same speed on the Cell. 4.5x faster.

[XactGamer]

"Enslaved NOT 'as beautiful' As Uncharted 2, Says Xbox 360"

Holy S%*t!!! the 360 can talk and do interviews.

[devilhunterx]

And have RED days every month too.

[OutgoingSquall]

360 owners hate facts it makes them cringe and spew bs that makes no sense.

[mynd]

So some guys blog is a fact?

Just saying there wasnt a whole heck of a lot of anything but opinon in that article.

[starchild]

There are no facts in this article. That's the point. It is a baseless article that actually goes contrary to known facts. Read up on what John Carmack and other developers have said about the two systems.

[Fishy Fingers]

The said, beautifully animated, that's, ANIMATED as Uncharted.

[MysticStrummer]

Yeah they did, but based on the videos I've seen it's not.

[DARK WITNESS]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but I though NT said it was the Animation that will be as beautiful as Uncharted.

They didn't say anything about Uncharted 2, and they didn't say "graphically as beautiful"

maybe I am wrong cos I didn't read the whole article, but the headline was;

"Ninja Theory's Enslaved is 'as colourful as Mario, as detailed as Gears and as beautifully animated as Uncharted'"

keyword here is "as beautifully ANIMATED as Uncharted" do these guys not know the difference, it's nothing to do with it's textures or lighting, they are just saying it will match it from an Animation stand point. I can see that being possible.

I have a ps3 and in my humble opinion I still rate Uncharted 2 as looking better then killzone 2 or GOW 3 and that is largely due to the level of details in it's textures and lighting. Heavenly Sword had great Animation almost matching Uncharted 1 anyway, so I can see them pulling it off.

[DigitalAnalog]

As beautifully animated as Uncharted.

Plausible. As Uncharted 2 uses a different type of Animation system than part 1. But I do NOT understand why the media immediately assumes this meant Uncharted 2!

-End statement

[gamer7804]

This is an article written on the basis of conjecture in order to get site hits. I've played uncharted 2, and while beautiful, its not the most breathtaking game released this generation. Especially when draw distances are concerned. I won't say which game that struck me so, because after all, it is just my opinion, as it is this article's author of uncharted 2.

[thief]

Frankly, I think Naughty Dog and Guerrila used some voodoo magic or somehow found some secret cache of processing power and RAM on the PS3 that no one else knows about. Cant blame other developers for not being able to match UC2 or KZ2

[XactGamer]

LOL this article sounds like it was written by one of the fanboys here on N4G. Also sounds like damage control. Oh well (pops in Crysis) fanboys will be fanboys.

[Dance]

surprise n4g even approveed of it

[ReBurn]

Ok, forget about which game looks better. Is the gameplay in Enslaved as good as the gameplay in Uncharted 2? While these games are nice to look at, I want to have fun.

[madpuppy]

If it is well known that PS3 exclusives from first party studios make visually stunning games. why do people get angry when it is stated as so? I mean, if the 360 is more powerful and a better architecture, all a developer has to do is make games that are on par with PS3 first party games. It shouldn't be too hard, after all, the 360 is touted as having the "easier" of the 2 systems to design and program games for. Why are we still waiting? Wouldn't MS love to have at least one game that blows away even Uncharted 1 graphically? Wouldn't the PR from such a title be worth it's weight in consoles sold?

I am not trying to knock the prowess of the 360, To me, if is wasn't for all the failed 360 consoles I had to suffer through I would still have one. I like the 360 as a gaming machine, I just cannot stand low quality hardware, that is why I build my own computers rather than getting an HP or a Dell (yech!).

All I'm saying is if something is a well known fact, proven by statements made by neutral parties in the industry and unbiased testing, why do people get angry? it is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[bviperz]

It's gotten to a point where it's now 'too easy' not just to design/program with but also make money off of. For me, it's like watching 360 games go from Windows Vista to Windows XP but charging the same price. Graphically speaking of course.

[BlackTar187]

"it is like trying to nail jello to a tree" never heard that before and im gonan steal it : ) cuz its awesome

[madpuppy]

I read it in a book or article somewhere years ago.

Here's another that is pretty cool that I cannot take credit for:

It's like grabbing a fistful of smoke. (or sand)

[8thnightvolley]

expected

[sam2236]

The 360 can talk now? Since when?

[The real killer]

WOW, and Killzone 3 wil go further than Uncharted 2 just what GOW3 did.
Shaman, you need Shut the f*ck up about the technology you know nothing about the PS3 architecture and how it works.I told you early about it and you keep and push with stupid hardware comparision. The PS3 use total different architecture and you keep see the PS3 as a PC architecture.

PS3 has far more new technology hardware than the 360 old hardware.
The game engine is the only way to get more out of the system, if the PS3 2 times powefull than the 360, then you will see the game engine will use the 2 times more power from the system.

That why i got now 1 bubble, thank to 360 fanboys clicking on stealth mode becouse they cannot discuss about it. They know that the PS3 is more powerfull than the 360.

Becouse the 360 is less powerfull, means not bad.

[divideby0]

when I can play a game as pretty as UC2 on my 360, let me know and I will surely buy it..

[Qui-Gon Jim]

The story I saw had them saying that the ANIMATIONS were "as beautiful as Uncharted 2." Of course, when the gaming press gets involved, quotes get misrepresented, whether to fish for hits or just stupidity on the writer's part.

[Paradise Lost]

Sooner or later devs will not be able to fit everything on 1 disk. If the 360 continues with their current format almost every game will require 3 disks or more.

An don't get me started on their games on demand service when they charge you $40 for a game that got released 5 years ago and that also takes up 8gb of your hardrive space.

MS are going to get screwed immensely.

[Spitonyourgrave]

that last paragraph makes me lol, I guess the writer forgot how cliched Heavenly Sword was....

[wenaldy]

UC2 can only be beaten by UC3.. LOL..

[southernbanana]

It's obvious that most of the people on this post do not own both systems.....

[Heartnet]

i own all 3 but i wud still back the ps3 over other consoles.

it goes
1:PS3
2:Xbox 360
3:Wii

everyone knows that

[lukewind]

If the PS3 would ever get its online together, and have a decent exclusive Shooter, then maybe it could surpass the 360, but for now those things look like they are far from happening.

Walk into any Lan center and it really funny to see all the 360's and the one PS3 in the corner.

The PS3 really needs a killer game that people would play for years. Killzone 2 tried hard, but already its online is a dead zone.

[N4BmpS]

it's clear that the only thing you care about is shooters, if you haven't noticed there are more genres in the industry. I mean seriously if all you want to do is play shooters online on the PS3 then maybe you should just stick with a 360, it is after all shooter heavy. With that said Uncharted 2 is a very good shooter.

[hot4play]

Uncharted 2 took advantage of the PS3's Cell and Blu-ray. I just don't see "as beautiful" possible on the 360.

"as beautifully ANIMATED as Uncharted" may be possible though. I haven't played Heavenly Sword yet but if Ninja Theory manages to pull it off (animation), then good for us gamers.

[lukewind]

You do realize that there are already games in development that surpass Uncharted 2 in visual terms, and some of these games are for the 360. Uncharted 2 was one of the first games to use a lot of new game engine tricks to get more performance out of that hardware.

The Rage engine done by ID is one example. They have been showing off the game to a select group of press, so far each one has stated that hands down its the best looking game they have ever seen, PC or Console. Just realize that no console during its lifecycle has ever maxed out its potential, because it all relates to software.

[hot4play]

Really? You mean a multiplatform engine is gonna be more effective in using the PS3's hardware? I hope so. I want my games to keep looking better and better. :) (i just checked early screenshots of Rage - BEAUTIFUL)

Raw power isn't everything though. Team ICO's games are an example of this, using art direction and subtlety in animation. The Last Guardian is looking to be another milestone as well...

[hot4play]

Also, "says xbox 360"??

I didn't know the 360 can talk... :p

[Lightel0s]

who aprove this kind of bad articles?

[palaeomerus]

Just another dumb "opinion" article about graphics. with no details to support anything it said or claimed that other people said. Weak stuff. All it did was get Uncharted fans barking at people who like Ninja Theory about nothing.

[gypsygib]

There's a surprise (sarcasm) I've yet to see a 360 game match PS3s in house best and I doubt
Crysis 2 will either. PS3 is more powerful than 360 but the the few graphical power houses released by Sony devs each year don't make up for PS3s multiplat shortcommings. I wish Sony just made ps3 like a pc achitecture, they'd still have great graphics but it wouldnt cost 40 million to unleash it and take 7 years to reach max potential. This whole difficult is good because game graphics always improve philosophy is stupid, difficult doesn't equate to more power - just means it takes longer to unleash. PS3 could have been just as powerful and had superior looking multiplats if designed differently. I'd rather see max capacity for 3 years than only one or two games maxing the system at the end of it's life cycle.

[mochi]

Yeah, Uncharted 2 was beautiful only cutscenes

[Karum]

It's just sooooo true!

[Biggest]

It may have something to do with being a multi-million dollar world renowned athlete. Or maybe he is just very congenial?

[Richdad]

No technical info is given. A game with small level could easily cross Uncharted 2 level of details and new techniques have made storage less of concern.

May be 360 cant touch with PS 3 at the end of the gen. BUt Unharted 2 will be crossed. New techniques will make it happen.

I still remember playing Resident Evil 4 on PS2 in 2005 and I thought why should one waste money on PC. RE4 back then crossed visuals of Doom 3 on a middle end gaming PC (that's my point of view)and PS2 was then 5 years old.

[Enigma_2099]

... who cares?

[Blitzed]

I asked my PS3 if it had anything to say on the matter.

It had no comment.

[saimcheeda]

about this game havnt seen the gameplay yet!

[psman012]

Xbox 360's cannot talk. We all know that.

[Richdad]

Thats pretty logical indeed

[Heartnet]

people are saying u shud trust the developers over the guys who have played the game. WRONG!

well then if u listen to the crysis 2 devs smacktalking every over first person shooter on the market then he must be right

and all developers big up their game they have to!

these guys have played it and know what their talking about and their opinion is less biased although this article seems to be trash talking the 360 a bit but its preety much true

[starchild]

Actually the person that originally made the comments is a reviewer from CVG and is a complete 3rd party opinion. He saw the game in person for the preview he did for the site and he is the one that made the comments about its graphics.

People are so mixed up. Ninja Theory IS NOT THE ONE WHO SAID THOSE THINGS ABOUT ENSLAVED!

So, are you going to trust CVG or pathetic Nowgamer who are known to be big fanboys?

Besides, the reviewer from CVG never said that it was better looking than Uncharted 2, he simply said that it is AS beautiful in certain ways and that people are overlooking what he thinks could likely be an amazing game.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

but is still beautiful :)

[lukewind]

You people are so pathetic. How do you call yourselves gamers. I mean you do realize that the entire gaming community laughs at you right?

Last generation the Sony fanbots cried about how gameplay means more then graphics, now they have a system that has a very slight visual margin, and now its all about the graphics, and vice versa with the Xbox fanboys.

All I have to say is "RAGE" Every person who has seen this in person, running on a 360 mind you, has said it is by far the best looking game they have ever seen. So what does that mean. It means that The 360's and PS3's hardware are virtually identical (made by the same company you know), the PS3 has only a slight margin in basic processor power. In truth it is all about software. The engines that drive these games are getting better every year. RAGE and CryEngine should just show all of you how crazy you all are.

As far as storage goes, Microsoft maybe should have gone with a higher capacity disc, but if you are too lazy to install something or change a disc, then you are a worthless person. Games can reside on more then one disc and be just fine.

I own both consoles and I know what each one is good for. The PS3 has some great exclusives, and pretty much that is all I play on it. If I want to play online I use the 360, because it is much better, sorry it just is so much better. That is my opinion, not a bold outlandish fanboy rant. They both serve a purpose and even though I favor one over the other for most things I could care less if one made 40 less polygons per second.

[Meryl]

so wait i said this a couple of days and even posted real screen shots showing the difference in each game, and everyone disagreed with me, fact is x360 fan's still can't get there small heads around the fact that ps3 is not a pc it has a different architecture, you can pre-process graphical tasks on the cell and do complex number crunching tasks at the same time, all this by using the power of the SPU's!! which is why most ps3 exclusives look better than anything shown on the x360.

[MadMan00]

*Sigh* Gamers these days all about graphics, they would play a dog shitting game if it had amazing graphics.

As I said before it's amazing how people are talking about how good it looks yet no one ever talks about the actual game play, I mean I have seen hundreds of people talking about it not one said anything about the actual game play, lol.

Real gamers don't care about the graphics or the voice overs all we care about are the actual game play, story and mechanics...Man the new breed of gamers and the wagoners just suck now.

[Darkfiber]

It looks good, who cares. Why do people have to compare everything, why can't they just take something as it is.

[N4PS3Fanboys]

I guess when your console goes from first place to last place over the course of one generation, and the only thing it has on its competition is slightly better graphical capabilities, you've gotta pretend that graphics are suddenly the only important part of a game. Screw gameplay, graphics all the way! Your game is automatically inferior to my game if it has worse graphics. Who cares if the gameplay of my game sucks, it has better graphics!

I bet graphics didn't matter last gen, when the PS2 hardware was far inferior to that of the Xbox. It was a much bigger gap than it is this gen between the PS3 and 360. And which console came out far in first place last gen? The weakest console with the worst graphics. It looks like it's happening again this gen. Wii in 1st place, 360 in 2nd place, and PS3 in dead last.

[roxkis]

Well I was going to buy the game because it looked fun but now I changed my mind
because its gfx don't look as good as another game..Now I can't enjoy it all

[darkdoom3000]

Machines learining how to speak... The end is comming

[cmrbe]

The advantage of developing on the PS3 first.

[CharlesDCI]

Its sad that in this generation technically pointing out why a game has better graphics than another is an opinion. lol

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I also like how it has to be pointed out like this was supposed to be 360's Uncharted... who gives a flying f**k? it DON'T have to match it...

I know 360 exclusives aren't as detailed as PS3 exclusives... but I've enjoyed them equally the same this gen

it's a shame how so freaking many of the "gaming" community have become narrowminded...

[Ashriel]

Uh, no one said "Enslaved is as beautiful as Uncharted 2", if you're talking about the CVG previewer, he said "it's as beautifully animated as Uncharted 2" (wich seems to be true, judging by the footage shown) but CVG twited his words and made the sensasionalist title.

In other words READ THE WHOLE PREVIEW, NOT JUST THE TITLE, NOWGAMER

[UziSuicide]

I actually preferred Uncharted over Uncharted 2, stylistically and game. Not to say I didn't love UC2 however.

NT did alright with HS despite low poly's, in most other aspects it wasn't as bad as some people made out. Kai wins best supporting character ever and needed her own game.

[Silber]

Very sad that this so called "Journalist" dosen´t get what developers say and make a misleading long text from this.

They they that the Animations will be as beautiful as in Uncharted 2, not the Graphics.Article Fail.

[aryan_irani]

xbox 360 can talk?