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Project Natal Vs. PlayStation Move: There Can Be Only One

UGO: Who will win? Just how much do we know? This feature will answers all your questions about Project Natal and Project Move with everything we know so far.

N4GAddict5103d ago

I think Project Natal has the upper hand is sales but both won't do as well as Sony or Microsoft hoped.

deadreckoning6665103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

I don't understand. Why does there only have to be one? Right now, I don't know many people that are interested in either.

hoops5103d ago

Only fanboys will say there only has to be one lol

CobraKai5103d ago

This isn't the same as the BluRay vs HD-DVD war where there really had to only be one. Two different systems, two different styles of control, both can thrive.

Hideo_Kojima5103d ago

I think Natals smoke a mirrors will sell more but there is no doubt the hardcore gamers and those who know what they are buying will go for Move.

Just imagine you don't know about games and you see something similar to how Wii seems to work and than you see a MS advert telling you (no more controllers now you are IN the game wooooooowowoowoww)

What would you go for?
Casual gamers will not think oh there are no buttons how the hell will I be able to do some of the things I can do with the Move?

ShinMaster5103d ago

One for each console. But no one will get either, lol. Problem solved.

ShinMaster5102d ago

the 2 people the disagreed will buy them, geez :D

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Faztkiller5103d ago

Not if that $150 is true I still think both will do ok

derseb5103d ago

Probably Natal sells better if there is cheap hardware, but nobody will buy games. Hardcore players using move might buy games.

Wrathman5103d ago

there can only be 1?

thats like saying there can only be one console on the market.clearly not the case, anymore, at least.with combined sales of 100 million+ this gen.you can bet that there will be owners of all consoles who will buy both peripherals.

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niceguywii605103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

I agree... No way in hell will Move have the same impact Natal has and will get. Move doesn't offer anything new people have not already seen. Expect many articles leading up to E3 that suggests Move is on the same level as Natal when it comes to Tech, Popular opinion, mass appeal, developer support, something new, Unique Experiences. Already to or three articles either slamming Natal or making Move seem on the same playing field as Natal all in response to the:

"Why is Microsoft visiting Kojima Productions?"

Due to the meeting most likely is related to Natal on some level.

USEYOURFIST5102d ago

how does move not offer anything new ? i never understand that argument bloody fanboys!!! there are enought devs that say both offer new things to games.

personally i would love natal if it was like its being hyped by the media to be something like virtual reality where your in the game but its not its an eyetoy 2.5 do these fanboys have no sense.

dorkyfresh115102d ago

"Move doesn't offer anything new people have not already seen."

neither does Natal. voice operation, UI control, facial recognition...all of these are already possible with the PSEye. however, with the Move you get something that you can't possibly get with Natal the way the developers intended you to use it.....physical feedback.

JokesOnYou5103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

I suppose the headline is just for fun, comparisons are fine but really I just can't get over how fanboyish it all sounds.

"There Can Be Only One"

-yeah, like theres only "one" home console, and of course people would be estastic if we had:

one tv manufaturer
one car model
one cell phone service
one restaurant chain
one movie studio
one news channel
one govt official who makes laws

I had a weird thought, maybe people like variety and might actually enjoy both....it might also be OK to just like one or the other and decide to buy just one of them without any hate for the other.

JOY

Greywulf5103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

will sell better than Move. I mean wow?

My money is on Move, since its actually real, shown to the public, and has demo's running.

My money isn't on Peter Monelux changing the way everyone games for the rest of our lives...

My money isn't on Ricochet.

Not buying move, because its a gimmick. Sony has had gimmicks in the past, and will continue to do so. One thing for sure, Natal is the biggest thing for the 360. Its not a gimmick for MS, its their xbox720. Its been the biggest news since e3. And anyone anyone has seen on this site...is ricochet.

God damn thats good marketing MS. Ketchup Popsicle to a woman in white gloves! People would rather empty dreams to sell more than Sony at this point, because they ignore investing into actual content like game studios for their customers.

Glad to be in the neither camp. I workout to workout, not play games.

Hallmark Moment5103d ago

There can be only one just like PS3 Sixaxis motion vs Nintendo Wiimote motion.

There can be only one like Move motion vs Natal motion.

Just saying.

Bigpappy5103d ago

Are we talking about sales, quality of gameplay, price war, nuber of had core, nunber of casuals, number of systems they move, ...? What? And why must there be only one?

This article should not have been approved is the answer.

sid4gamerfreak5102d ago

how about we stop compaing these two great systems? For once, let us have peace...

Natal will appeal to different rich gamers, and move will appeal to other gamers

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-Alpha5103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

Because the Title is flamebait. On top of that Move and Natal are actually pretty different despite both being motion based. Why must there be one when we can enjoy both? Besides, there is no motivation if there is no competition.

Oh, my favorite part:

"Just how much do we know?"

We've known pretty much the same thing for a long time now and many articles have tried to draw the same conclusions on seemingly the same very little information we've all had. Seriously, we've read all this before. At least reserve the topic for post-E3.

@KIWI

Exactly. Both Sony and Microsoft are distinguishing themselves and claiming their own independence with motion control and developers are seeing the benefits of both. Their success does not necessarily depend on the competition of each other but rather the success of the product. It's silly to compare these two like this and it just defines the childish behavior the gaming industry is known for, especially when you claim "There can only be One". And we wonder why the rest of the world doesn't take this industry seriously and why the perception that video games are for children is so prominent.

PandemicPrawn05103d ago

Plus the fact that they are on completely separate and financially successful systems.

If there is room for three consoles in the market, then there’s also room for three motion controllers.

LordMarius5103d ago

Im sure all THREE will co-exist, but only one can win, which the Wiimote has already, lol.

unknownhero11235103d ago

exactly. there is room in this generation for both natal and move and I believe they will sell well to the casual crowd.

Alcon Caper5103d ago

hmm, article seems a bit biased...

MGRogue20175103d ago (Edited 5103d ago )

I AM THE ONE & ONLY!!! :D

c wat i did dere?

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar982d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal982d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein982d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k982d ago (Edited 982d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS982d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721982d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever982d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar982d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics982d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos982d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils982d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics982d ago (Edited 982d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein982d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr982d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721982d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard982d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb982d ago (Edited 982d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever982d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr982d ago (Edited 982d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal982d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH982d ago (Edited 982d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal982d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH982d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin982d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290982d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo981d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC981d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy982d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa982d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins982d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos982d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever982d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC982d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever982d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen985d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad985d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007984d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia985d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992985d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992985d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad985d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex985d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992985d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic984d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad984d ago (Edited 984d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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