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Sony: PS Move Reaction Time Is 22 Milliseconds

Mark Green of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has said the reaction time for the PlayStation Move is just 22 milliseconds.

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Anarki5083d ago (Edited 5083d ago )

This is very old news... but good non-the-less

Aquanox5083d ago Show
na2ru15083d ago

$150 for a webcam is a rip off.

na2ru15083d ago (Edited 5083d ago )

$150 for a webcam is a rip off.

Djeeaz5083d ago

Have a bubble for the laugh Na2ru1 :D

wicko5083d ago

Still going to be cheaper than Natal I bet. The additional move controller is probably optional.

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Conloles5083d ago

How do these statements from ages ago keep getting approved?

HolyOrangeCows5083d ago

Let's be honest here, you're paranoid.

Move doesn't get bashed much because it's impressively accurate and is bringing the types of games we always hoped the Wii would have but never did (SOCOM).

Elvfam5115083d ago

Whats your point about Move.

Socom 4 needs = 1 Move and 1 add-on
The fight game = 2 Move
Table Tennis = 1 Move
The party game = 1 Move (4 probably if you play with other people)

Just need an eye all to them mix which will come out to two or three peripherals to play not four.

Natal has only one game they show every time which is the Ball game. Burnout isn't shown no more because of the lag it has. I rather have a working peripheral then a barely working one.

Heartnet5083d ago

So if Sony's is 4 pieces of hardware does that mean that its 4x better and have put 4x as much work in that anybody else?

^^ + it all comes bundled together in a nice neat packagae so shup troll

Ju5083d ago (Edited 5083d ago )

Like Wii, aren't we ? Comes with one controller and a light bar. Nunchuck is extra. Second controller is extra (oh, and the charger kit would be separate, too).

Move is one controller and a camera. Second controller is extra, so is the Navigator. Funny nobody complained before. (charger included)

Killzone3Helghast5083d ago

But the PS Move already does motion tracking with the PS Eye.... all they would have to do is upgrade the tech and it becomes a Natal.. ?

kunit22c5083d ago

Aquanox must be really ignorant to keep posting such stupid comments when he gets proved wrong EVERY TIME.

booni35082d ago

Is that the response time of the sixaxis? they said it was the same.

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blusoops5083d ago

So basically most games run on 100ms lag.

The fastest controller response u can get is 50ms and that's on the ps3 xmb.

1 frame = 17ms

so yeah, 22ms IS impressive.

Orange5083d ago

Nice link. 22 ms is fantastic response.

vhero5083d ago

thanks for that info that's impressive!

raztad5083d ago

I'm ready for Socom 4 and KZ3 on the MOVE :D

TooTall195083d ago

I'm sure KZ3 will be no different. Socom 4 not so much but I'm still looking forward to it.

ProjectVulcan5083d ago

Its simply good to know that lag will be almost impossible to detect. Two thirds of a single frame for most games on Ps3 running 30 FPS. It'll increase controller latency, but by a near undetectable amount. This also means it'll still be useful online where extra latency is factored in...

DeZv35083d ago

Dude just refuses to let it go.

Its kinda sad really. :-/

Sarcasm5083d ago

It really... really is...

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sikbeta5083d ago

This old news, there was an article here stating the same thing but "taking it" as something "bad"

here:

http://n4g.com/news/525537/...

Anyways, Great News Again...

morganfell5083d ago

It's because they do not understand how much the controller lag works nor do they realize what it is in 360 games. They are not going to be so bold when they read the Digital Foundry article at Eurogamer I linked above. Ben Heck built the device to measure the lag.

DTClown5083d ago

22 ms is nothing...what IS something is the launch line up and titles that will support MOVE.

MOVE now has all genera's covered for launch, or close to it...
FPS...double check (Socom, KZ3)
Sports/Golf...double check (TW, minigolf)
Platformer....check (LBP2)
racing...check (GT5 or MotorStorm3)
casual...quad check (various party games)
fighting...check (shown)
sword fighting...check (shown)
Star Wars light Saber... check (my prediction)
sports/archery...check (shown)
Sim... check (Eye Pet)
turn based... check (patched eye of judgement)

ia_studio5083d ago

for those who don't know one second is 1000 miliseconds, one frame at 30FPS is 33.3 miliseconds, in other words 22 miliseconds is less than a frame.

arny5082d ago

100 for a wii remote is a ripoff too

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kidnplay5083d ago

Wow, that's an impressive time.

The Wood5083d ago

whats the wii and wii plus's response time??

wiggles5083d ago

I'm curious as well to see the Wii's response time

Sarcasm5083d ago

About a month, then you realize you've wasted your money.

mal_tez925082d ago

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I think my wii is due for a dusting off now with monster hunter tri and mario galaxy 2. But I agree that my Wii was a bad investment

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar962d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal962d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein962d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k962d ago (Edited 962d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH963d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS962d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH962d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721962d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever962d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar962d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics962d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH962d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos962d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils962d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics962d ago (Edited 962d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH962d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein962d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr962d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721962d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard962d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb962d ago (Edited 962d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH962d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever962d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr962d ago (Edited 962d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal962d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH962d ago (Edited 962d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal962d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH962d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin962d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290963d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo962d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC962d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy963d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa963d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins963d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos962d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever962d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC963d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever962d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen965d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad965d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007965d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia965d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992965d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992965d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad965d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex965d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992965d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic965d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

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@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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