Super Mario Galaxy 2 :Could Be Considered The Best Game Ever

If you consider yourself a gamer, you’ll have most likely heard some Super Mario Galaxy 2 praise over the last few days. Recent sequels by Nintendo such as New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Legend of Zelda : Spirit Tracks have been labelled as “lazy” and “uninspired” by critics, which naturally made me sceptical about Super Mario Galaxy 2’s reception.

[GuruStarr78]

its really fun...and gives you that "rewarding" feeling when you reach a star.....don't know that I'd go as far as saying it's the "best ever" though.....maybe the best Mario title ever.

[Mo0eY]

The level design is insane. The sound design is spot-on. Yoshi? Fuck yeah. But Mario's storyline is getting tired. I mean, the beginning didn't even tie-in. If I were a reviewer this would've been a 9 simply because of the story. At least the previous game seemed to connect to what you were doing.

[mikeslemonade]

Hmmm... basically the same graphics and gameplay since Super Mario Sunshine ;which in my opinion had larger levels and was better. The only difference is new gimmicks and new mini worlds.

It's not even close to being one of the greater games this generation. Uncharted 2 is still king. Mario is all hype and it gets a free pass. Some of you gamers here don't know a good game when you see one.

[BryanBegins]

Funny that you call us "ignorant gamers" because we actually enjoy an awesome game that you don't.

And if you consider the graphics of Sunshine the same as those in Galaxy, you are blind. Of course Galaxy is not HD, but it's a pretty looking game. Btw, I consider Mario Sunshine as the worst 3D Mario, the levels were uninspired and I never knew where to go next. Galaxy (1 and 2) is just perfect. Speaking of gimmick: a hose versus a new gravity system. Yes, you are definitely an expert lol

[mikeslemonade]

The leap from Mario 64 to Luigi Mansion in graphics was about 3x times as good as the leap from Sunshine to Galaxy 2. The difference is minimal. The water hose was analog. Gravity system was in Galaxy 1. What did they do in Galaxy 2? They're all gimmicks. It's like Madden's cone vision. The difference between Sunshine to Mario 64 is there are more "gimmicks" and improvements to say it was the next level up. Galaxy 2 from Sunshine is an upgrade.

And the only reason why you would call this a good game is because there is no competition. You have Mario and Ratchet for 3D platformers essentially. It's the starvation and death of this genre that is making you all say this is one of the best in this generation. It's 8.0 at best!

[BryanBegins]

Thanks for letting me know why I like a game. Until your enlightning comment, I thought I enjoyed Galaxy because it was a very fun game, well done in every way except the story (but it's mario, I actually like not having to care about that). But now I know that I actually enjoy the game only because 1. I can't tell a good game and 2. There is no competition.

Really, thanks.

[ChickeyCantor]

" It's 8.0 at best!"

Not that i care about these ratings but, what makes your opinion to be the ultimate?

Bryan have a bubble.

[badz149]

just because it gets free passes from everywhere? just because it's mario? that's SAD! people say, review scores don't matter, but people use review scores to make STUPIDLY BOLD claim like this! so much for "review scores don't matter" ha?

[Marceles]

I agree with you JQM when you said it's more rewarding when you reach a star, instead of in earlier Mario games where the star was a triple jump, walljump, and water cannon away. That's why I like the Galaxy series, the level design and effort you have to put into it is alot more than earlier games.

[xJxdOggyStYLe]

as someone said...down below its def top 10 so far this gen, mgs4/gears of war 1 ..gearsbecause of the wow factor of puttin that game in and how gorgeous it was and goin online and havin that head shot and the whole room goes OOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! I played that game for 2 years straight! (gears 2 was ruined) would be my top 2 this gen also bioshock 1 is right up there alsooo gotta give red dead redemption some love that game is AMAZING.

[Fierce Musashi]

Guess it depends on who you're asking, mostly.

I would say it's ONE of the best games ever.

[sikbeta]

"But... but.. Da Cryziz with da Cryziz Graphicz"

/jk

[playstation_clan]

so does uncharted 2

[Homicide]

Uncharted 2 maybe, but MGS4??? Really?? The 'game' was terrible in every way. The story was full of plotholes, awful twists & revelations, drawn-out cutscenes, and dumb down stealth-gameplay. You can buy ammo & weapons by pressing start. WTF?

[White-Sharingan]

MGS4 is my best game ever, really really good, no matter what you say :)

[cranium]

MGS4 is my favourite game this gen so far. It is just behind MGS3 and SotC in my list of "best games ever". I've beat it 12 times, that's how much I like it. I'd say that this game has the most epic, breathtaking moments out of any other game ever made. I won't spoil any of them in case someone here hasn't played it, but if you've played even one of the previous MGS games, then you owe it to yourself to play MGS4. It's not for everyone, but if you "get it", you'll absolutely love it.

[Cheeseknight28]

Uncharted 2 yes.

Metal Gear Solid 4, no.

I would rank the series 3 > 1 > 2 = 4 (2 has a slight edge though).

I never thought I would hear nanomachines so much in one game. That and pointless character deaths. (To avoid spoilers, the character starting with the letter N had no reason to die just yet. Seems like it was done for shock value. I mean, did Otacon really need even MORE grief? You know, after taking his first love in MGS1, and his sister in MGS2?)

3 was simply the best. Even if it had a way-too-long opening (I think I clocked it at 55 minutes from the time you hit new game until you can actually play the game for more than 25 seconds.) the story actually stood on it's own as one of the industry's best.

[A change in the wind]

I`ve played far better this generation alone. I`d actually be hard-pressed to put SMG2 in this generations top 10.

[tunaks1]

i wouldn't say best game ever, but it sure is close

[Deputydon]

I'm not a huge Mario fan by any means. I grew up playing Sonic personally. The only Mario games I've ever really liked (out of the 1000 of them) would be SMB3, Super Mario 64, Super Mario RPG, and SMG1 and now 2.

Now even I can admit that Super Mario 64 hasn't aged THAT well. The controls are horrid, you can barely control the camera, hell even walking to exactly where you wanted to go was difficult. Super Mario RPG was co developed with Squaresoft. And SMG1 is a joke compared to this new one.

Oh and just for more references I hated Super Mario Sunshine.

As for SMG2? The music is top notch, even the old Bowser soundtracks from 64 are redone and sound amazing. The camera is always looking at exactly where it should and lets you control it when you might want to but never really have to. The game play is amazing. They manage to keep each level short enough that if you were a casual gamer you could sit down and get probably three or four stars in half an hour, but they made sure to make the game big enough (240 stars total) that even the hardcore fans will be playing it for a while.

The way Nintendo took 3d and 2d games and seamlessly merged them together is flatout incredible and way more impressive than any platformers I've played on either PS3 or 360. The graphics are pretty damn good for a Wii game with only a little bit of jagged edges, and thanks to some stellar art styles the game looks and feels fantastic.

If anyone here has actually played the game and not just saying they have. (and by played the game, I mean actually played it. Not just sat for 10 minutes and watched someone else play it). I'd like to know what level design you really think is better than some of the Bowser castles in this game? Because I can't think of any...

[Cheeseknight28]

Well said. There are only a few games I would rank on par with Mario Galaxy 2 this generation (Such as Mass Effect 2). I can't wait to hit 70 stars tonight and beat Bowser.

[Kroganwrex]

I love uncharted 2, but best game ever? In my opinion, no.

[tiamat5]

I disagree. SMG2 is only the best game ever on the Wii. As long as you judge it by Wii standards it's fine. But as soon as you start judging it by any other standards you realize how flat it really is. First of all Sony's characters lik Jak, Sly and Ratchet are better animated and have more personality the Mario and friends two dimensional personalities. Secondly no matter they try to cover it up Mario is still sparse and barren. I just recently played a RAC game and I was amazed at how much thing were going on around me. Birds flying in the sky, ships zooming by, stars twinkling, sun shining, snow falling. Mario's backgrounds and worlds sill look painted on and box or Lego like. Finally same old look for stars, find purple coins, get a millon lives, save princess story getting old. Never evolves. SMG2 like all Wii games are great as long as you don't look at them too hard or compare them to other more advanced, technologically superior games. Compare SMG2 to UC2 or RAC or LBP. I dare you.

[Cheeseknight28]

Seems like the main problem you have with Mario Galaxy 2 is the graphics.

And if that is the case, consider yourself a fail gamer. Graphics should always be one of the lowest considerations for any true gamer, after all, Persona 4 was one of the best games of 2008 and it was on the PS2. It's infinitely better than garbage like FFXIII.

[tunaks1]

I disagree,
SMG2 can hold its own against PS360 titles, its got some nice lighting, fur effects (if you've seen the huge bee in the game you'll know what I mean. It surprises me that HD games dont even use that effect)

and the whole game looks great. MP3 and MH3 are other examples of Wii games that can be compared to HD games.

[Imalwaysright]

No game can be considered the 'best ever' because everyone has an opinion. Its the same with music, movies, food... you name it.

[tiamat5]

First of all I have other qualms about the game besides graphics. I just didn't want to sound long winded. Secondly if Wii games can truely go head to head with other titles how come there are no comparisons for them. No one compared the Conduit to any other shooter. No one compared Mario Kart to any other racer. No one compared Mario to any other platformer etc. You see Nintendo is safe as long as no one compares their games to any one that that does it better. Finally I am not hating on MG2. I would play it if it was handed to me along with a Wii. Just don't believe it is the greatest game ever especially with LBP 2 heading my way soon

[Achtung]

I think the conduit was compared with other shooters... and mario kart recently got a "comparison" in a race game commercial...

[dizzleK]

no. one could easily argue that something like ms. pacman is a better game for a multitude of reasons. i put no faith in the 20-something reviewers who have absolutely no perspective or grasp on the history of gaming. it's "the best" because it's new, it's fresh in everybodys mind. you have to earn greatness, we'll see how history treats the game.

i'm not trying to downplay the game, i just refuse to give in to hyperbole and the warm and fuzzies that come with every new release.

[Neoninja]

Maybe I'm just crazy but I am so disappointed in this game. Its just Mario Galaxy one with extra stuff. I 'm not saying its a bad game, but I am saying it should not have scored as high as it did in reviews. Has anyone noticed that the game reuses bosses and even the same sentences from the first one? Maybe Mario 64 spoiled me to much and I expect to see a game similar to that one.

[Golden_Avenger]

You make it sound like there are no new bosses at all. The very first boss is a redesign of the first boss. The rest are new. Minus Bowser/ Jr. of course.

In World S you unlock the "Throwback Throwdown Galaxy" which is a boss run on a bunch of the first Galaxy's bosses. I believe this is what you mean.

[nycredude]

We got a lot of young ass gamers in here. I out grew Mario crap many years ago and no matter what I do I just can't get into it anymore. Played out and way too stale for me. Good game maybe, but best game ever, I doubt it. Certainly not a 10 in graphics, like so many reviewers are giving it.

[tunaks1]

10 for graphics is well deserved,
seeing this game makes me laugh at the brown mess thats in todays games. Everything in the game pops out of the screen. Its not all about technology. The best looking game this gen(IMO) is Murumasa and its a 2d game.

"We got a lot of young ass gamers in here"
Its actually the opposite any veteran gamer knows how great mario games are, most of the gamers here started on the ps1. So they have no nostalgic connection with mario or any nintendo games.

[despair]

not true I love mario. Played every mario on my nes and snes. Mario RPG is one of my favorite RPGs ever and Super Mario World my favorite platformer ever.

Just because I like mario and have been playing mario games for 15 years doesn't mean I blindly purchase or drool over every mario game to be released. Mario galaxy built on Mario 64 and was certainly a good game but the extent of the improvements compared to the stagnant gameplay that after so long only holds nostalgic sentiment and does not exceed expectations.

This has been Nintendo's mantra with recent mario games, "make a good game but don't go beyond the known and don't aim to excel as fans will buy it anyways and it will cost us less"(long mantra i know).

And as predicted every rabid Mario fan and retro gamers defends the games like it was their mother.

This is why Mario galaxy 2 is not the best game ever and even having an article saying that it might be is offensivein its self;

its extremely close to the first galaxy, which in turn is just an expansion on a very aging Mario 64, that is based on an even older Mario game and all have exactly the same premise with no notable changes to the core of the game good or bad; peach is kidnapped by bowser, mario randomly jumps on enemies to kill them and he collects a crap load of coins and items that hold little purpose than to unlock new areas(powers excepted).

[strickers]

A 10 for graphics is like giving Kylie Minogue a 10 for singing.Bullcrap.Why do people kid themselves over Mario stuff?They said the first game was the best this gen,I'd give it a 7.Lots of flaws and the same old themes.Even if you like the art design,you cannot justify a 10 for graphics.Graphics are art and tech,you can't judge one and ignore the other(flat banks lacking texture,limited fx,basic models).
Take of the Ninty tinted specs.With all the 360 vs Ps3 stuff sometimes are forget that Ninty fanboys are still the most blinkered.Problem is,many of the them are reviewers.

[CoreGamer]

"make a good game but don't go beyond the known "
I dont remember spherical worlds in mario games before....

and @ strickers I bet you haven't even played Galaxy1 or 2. You sound like a but hurt troll.