3 Reasons Why Super Mario Galaxy 2 Doesn't Deserve 10s

Here are 3 things in Mario Galaxy 2 that reviewers should be ashamed to see Nintendo do, and even more ashamed to have overlooked.

[GUCommander]

While I think you're whining in this article...I do agree that it really doesn't deserve 10's. These reviews were clearly bought.

[badz149]

but there are clearly free passes everywhere, it's ANNOYING!

but he said "hard-nosed reviewers like IGN" - WTF? IGN gives 9 & 10 like candy!

[nintenflo]

@ GUCommander - Have you even played the game?
and while im at it...Have any of you commenting on this article played the game? No probably not!!

I personally hav'nt played it yet ( i live in the U.K ), but if its anything like the first games standard then a 10 is probably justified.

[TheColbertinator]

Jealousy :)

[Samus HD]

hmm..

[Nike]

Eh. Yeah, he's nit-picking but at least he gives some definite reasoning (no matter how whiny) and examples to back up his points.

Doesn't change the fact that many, many other people love the game. Has any one seen the Throwback Galaxy? That and LBP2's debut trailer made me shed a tear. :)

[tunaks1]

because you're but hurt

[Nike]

Lol. Come now. That's just mean. He DID say 3 reasons. ;)

[heroicjanitor]

He makes some really good points, it doesn't deserve a 10.

[Unicron]

Review scores are opinions, people need to stop stressing over them.

I am NOT detracting from Galaxy 2 at all, as we all know its a quality product, but you have to admit, reviewers have proven to be massively hypocritical and inconsistent with how this game was reviewed compared to other sequels.

[dirthurts]

I too had the same complaints. I really feel like I'm playing the same game for the most part. Not that it's not fun...but I would have rather had something different.

[cobraagent]

they don't review wii games like ps3 and xbox360 games. They give them extra points because of the wii limitations but isn't that unfair? I mean the wii is a seventh generation console like the PS3 and the XBOX 360 and should be reviewed just like the oher two consoles. And judging just by the graphics SMG2 should get a 9

[RagTagBnd445]

When reviewing a wii game, the graphics should be compared to other wii games, not PS3/360/PC games.

[n4gno]

yep, and people should never compared review notes from xbox, wii, to ps3..

A 6 for ps3 is a 8 for xbox, and ten (or more :)) for wii.

[cobraagent]

they are all seventh generation systems. The fact that Nintendo didn't make a machine that powerful is irrelevant when you review a game. You can't compare PS2 to PSP and PS3 games because the consoles are from different generations and psp is a handheld console.

[skare13]

a lot of people here are crying.

OK let's say SMG2 gets a 8-9 for graphics because it doesn't look like ps3/360 game.

can we take aways points from other reviews (for any ps3/360 games) if they don't have motion controls or mii support.

give a ps3 game a lower grade because the online isn't as good as 360 games.

take away points from a 360 game because it isn't on blu-ray.

it is about the hardware the game is on also

[dirthurts]

Why should you compare it to last gen? You pay just as much for the Wii as the 360...so why not?
A fair comparison should always consider the price. It's Nintendos fault they short cut the graphics to make it more profitable for themselves. I say compare away. Sounds fair to me.

[Seferoth75]

@Cobragent, Why? Because that is how it has always been done. No PS2 game last gen would have gotten a 10 if reviewers did that.
No PS3/360 game would get a 10 today.I bet you only want the graphics compared right? But what about in FPS where Wii has the better controls? What if PS3/360 games couldnt get a 10 until they have Move and Natal out?

PS3 and 360 games wouldnt get 10s in graphics when compared to the PC.

Reviewers are not going to start using some bias method of reviewing games just for you and a bunch of upset kids. What you really fail to understand is doing things the way you want only brings the games you want to help down.

[Double Toasted]

Its only people's opinion, geez. I haven't played SMG2 yet so I don't know if it warrants the score or not. To this day though, the only game I consider perfect is Metroid Prime. Not the the 3rd or 2nd one, The 1st Metroid Prime. Phenadra Drifts, Magmoor Caverns etc, etc., to 60 fps game play along with the artstyle and levels that weren't linear nor sandbox, but unique... To me there isn't a better adventure game out there or has came yet. But this is my opinion...

[vhero]

There are better games than MG2 far better games out there even for the wii.. yet it gets 10s for fun its really a joke on the review system...

[SuperStrokey1123]

What games are better than SMG2 on the wii? Id love to see your list. SMG2 is an improvement in everyway on SMG1 and that was GOTY when it came out and still is better than every other wii game except smg2.

[e-p-ayeaH]

creativity and imagination are in this game and which is more impressive is that its a sequel! Uncharted 2 for example didnt add nothing really new and it didnt get a 10 cause of that. U2 gets 9/10 by me.

[cobraagent]

when you review games you should not think about their console.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Nah, UC2 deserves a 10 as well. Its epic.

[n4gno]

Lol, uncharted 2 had several 10, and it's uncomparably most important and new than super mario 2 (or others mario)

and don't forget, a 10 for a ps3 exclusives = a 13 for xbox, a 23 for wii.

[Forbidden_Darkness]

Alot of games copy and paste things (thinks of call of duty)...

Also, the 1up complaint, i love 1ups, instead of all these new regeneration healths nowadays... It's too bad if you die trying to get one, you just have to get better at the game, obviously it's not going to be easy to get more lives, other wise they might as well just give them to you after you complete a level....

These reasons are LAME and the funny thing is, im not a wii fanboy, nor do i own a wii right now

[eagle21]

His reasons are LAUGHABLE. All the haters on this site are too. I can see if you copied and pasted things from other peoples games...but borrowing great original ideas from your own franchise is fine.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I dont see how these are points at all.

Cut things that waste my time: Then dont use it
Cut needed things: Its not needed what hes complaining about. The way they do it is way better now. Id much rather have more time playing in the levels and spend less time trying to get to the levels.
Copy and Paste: Not a point at all, carrying something over from another game that is excellent is not a detriment to the game at all. Copy and paste is not a negative. Its what you do with what you copy and they do some amazing and fun things.

SMG2 is amazing, if you dont think its a 10 (i personally do think its a 10) thats cool but his reasons are crap.

[Fierce Musashi]

You know what they say: "Everyone has a right to their own O-P-I-N-I-O-N."

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Forbidden_Darkness: We may never know. I'll leave it as that.

[Forbidden_Darkness]

Opinion? yes, being butthurt? no

[Gr81]

Were these 'articles' for MGS4 or GTA4? Get over it already..it is getting sad...no matter fact it is way past sad at this point.

[thief]

Imagine, an GTA4 where the graphics are the same as for GTA:SA, the gameplay is the same, there is no online, there are large segments that are simply lifted from GTA:SA and instead of an involved story yand characters you have Niko Belic trying to rescue a kidnapped princess by getting past an army of turtles. Now imagine GTA4 getting average scores close to 100. You right, it is sad.

[Mahr]

"Imagine, an GTA4 where the graphics are the same as for GTA:SA, the gameplay is the same, there is no online, there are large segments that are simply lifted from GTA:SA"

Wait, you want us to imagine a GTA4 that's actually *good*?

[thief]

I think Sony should bring out a wii standard game for the PS3 – 480p graphics with minimal physics and effects and last gen animation, half baked online and laughable story or characters, just to see what kind of review scores they get. It will be quite funny, really.

[tunaks1]

"minimal physics"
now I know you havent played SMG1 or 2,
cry moar

[MajestieBeast]

The flying segments like the buzzard alone shoudl deduct points like ign did with the sneaking in uncharted 2. Lets face mario gets a free pass unlike any other game.

[Unicron]

I seem to recall Ratchet having "too much variety" as well. Again, not detracting from SMG2, but it's funny watching professional reviewers flipflop.

[MajestieBeast]

Ye i get what your saying but reviewers just like to flipflop especially gametrailer we wont award a 9.3 to something that isnt original ye mw1.5 9.5 and MG2 a 9.7.

[ChickeyCantor]

In that case no game deserves a 10.

He actually goes on and mentions the plot...Yeah well...There never has been one to be honest.

"To give you letters when a character in a previous level has a new challenge for me. I have been collecting these stars as fuel for intergalactic travel, yet somehow a monkey with a pair of shades manages to get mail to me."

Yeah and MArio can breath in space.
You wanna talk logic? Then stop playing video games.

Am i getting the feeling he is mad at the mail-toad because he is Pink?
LOL.

[TheColbertinator]

"Yeah and MArio can breath in space.
You wanna talk logic? Then stop playing video games."

Hahahaha yeah I noticed that too

[Homicide]

"He actually goes on and mentions the plot...Yeah well...There never has been one to be honest."

Yeah, Mario has never been about the story; it's all about gameplay. I suppose the same can be said to the platform genre.

Anyways, this article is funny. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a blast, and it's my personal GOTY at the moment.

[slave2Dcontroller]

I think the game will be GOTY. I havent played it yet but the videos I've seen looks ACE!

[edgeofblade]

Galaxy 2 doesn't compel me to play it. It feels like a fan-mod of the original game.

[gumgum99]

Wow, all kinds of defensiveness in the comment section. I will not take sides, but I will say that a game should be enjoyed based on fun factor, and should not change based on one guy, or any website's opinion. That's how I feel anyway.

I will enjoy anygame regardless of its score. I hope the fans here on this board feel the same way, and not because of its critical reception.

[skare13]

I can tell a lot of people here, are kids.

I keep seeing all these comments

It's last gen, next gen, 7th gen, whatever gen

it's a wii game based off of wii hardware, and the reviews reflex that.

you all cry way too much

[eagle21]

So I guess a 9.9 then..lol...seriously cry more. :)

I just read like 6 more 10's today.....some of you just don't have a clue what makes a game a 10. Over 30 hours of gameplay should mean something these days but it honestly doesn't. Even the users are scoring it a 10.

9.9, 9.8, 9.7...whatever you fancy....it's still a 10 at the end of the day. :)

[browngamer4]

Man i am getting so f-ckin tired of these so called profesional journalist letting their fanboyism show through..galaxy two is a muthaf-ckin ten!..if they could score any hire they would... if it was on ps3 it would be a ten..people postin sh-t just because they can't stand the fact that nintendo is kicking their asses. It's about game design bitches..and NOBODY does it better than nintendo..PERIOD!!!

[eagle21]

Exactly, it's a 10. Don't let the dumbies get to you bro. Nintendo is kicking ass and it shows from stupid articles like this. The article reads like a nervous rant. If anyone thinks it's valid, I feel SORRY for them. Go play Call Of Duty...give me MARIO...lol

[Seferoth75]

The real issue is that Sony fans love to use Metacritic to prove games are AAA and they have the best console.. They need a Sony game to be the highest rated to justify their purchase. Most of the ones crying here are always hyping up PS3 games as perfect and pulling up review scores as proof of this.

They are angry and upset and doing the only thing they know to do. Lashing out in fits of rage at anything they can. They are young and have not yet developed better control over their emotions. Most of them are not thinking rationally at all.

The whole compare Wii games to PS3/360 games is childish. No console has ever been judged that way. Simple reasons why that most people are being to irrational to understand

The only games to get 10 would be the PC with the best controls/graphics. PC games would be getting the 9-10 range for reviews, Wii/PS3/360 would be in the 6-8 range for high rated games like Gow3 or HR. Granted Wii doesnt have the graphics but it does have superior controls for many games. PS3/360 games would take a hit in reviews then because they'd be compared to the Wii remote. No Portable game would ever get over a 5.

Something like that might lead a person to think that a new God of War on PSP was inferior to say Red Steel on the Wii. You guys really havent thought about what you are asking for because you are too upset to think clearly.

Take a few days and look into the history of video games. People have been reviewing games for almost 30 years now. It isnt going to change because of Sony fans being upset.

Oh and lastly most of your other lame excuses for why SMG is bad could be said for Uncharted, God of War and many other games.

[5th Devil of the Ful]

Yes. It's truly pathetic. I've even seen some of them say Uncharted 2 is going to be 2010 game of the year. The posts on all of these super mario galaxy 2 articles are nothing but Sony baloney to make the Sony Ponies feel better.

But hey, this is n4g. What should one expect?
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[Redempteur]

Solid 10 for me ... they cut uneeded things from the first game and it's original , fun et beautifull

10/10

[Fel08]

I don't care what this article says. IMO the game deserves a perfect 10. It's addictive, and one of the best Mario games to date. And honestly better than some of the overhyped games on the other consoles.

[bennyace]

All the fanboys that never ever talk about the WII are all out on damage controle as soon as a WII game gets a good score. So funny. It's the same for Sony's move, they were all saying the the WII remote and nunchuk were not for hardcore gamers and that that they wanted a standard controler to play their games. Not some motion thing. But now the Move is like the greatest invention in the history of gaming.

On topic: SMG2 is an excellent game and it does bring something new to the game. You get different mushrooms that we've never seen before (cloud, spring, ...) you get Yoshi, awsome level design and most important it's very fun to play. But it seems that with this generation of console, it's more important to have a better graphic resolution then to have fun playing a video game. Go figure! I suggest that you try it first hand before making uneducated comments about a game that most of you won't play.

[turok]

I have the game since day 1 and so far its deserving its perfect score. To all those who bash it well now obviously you haven't played it yet. go play it and find out for yourselves why it could be the GOTY of 2010.

[bennyace]

I forgot the spring was in SMG1. Thanks for correcting me.

[almehdaaol]

really?

[CDbiggen]

This ain't going to stop me buying the game and loving it. Why this guy thought it was his duty to post this article is beyond me.

[rumplstilts]

shit article by what I suspect is a shit site. The observatory sucked. It made finding a level to replay confusing and took too long to navigate.

[Ps_alm3k]

i love mario, but i could tell a game from a game.
Journalist and reviewers talks a lot about innovation and graphics and all that jazz.
Some games gets bash to no end, and some gets free pass. I have come to accept this...

[ghostgaming]

Have the game - only about 10 stars into as Red Dead is taking most of my time. The little I have played, it is excellent, maybe not a 10 but definitely 9+ and worth the purchase

[Thrakos]

this contradicts kinda what i am saying.....but i guess everyone is an expert and a critic.......just like when we goto the movies and watch the trailers......we have a say huh.......the writer and some people here will just have different interests in what is enjoyable to you......but as game reviewers go....and from what i read.....this game is the one to compare with the same of its type that come out.......the audience it reaches out for is anyone.....unlike fps which are teens and mature.......

why shouldnt it get a high score for the audience it can entertain and what it accomplishes in its genre......

the argument of copy and paste is the stupidest part of the article......as with so many years....there is little originality or something new in any product......everything is related to something else.....and most sequels or standalone games will have things that barrow from something else......i've seen it all.....so automatically everygame should half life the game before it.......

complaining that this game that you dont like because of the genre or because it didd better than a game you love won't do anything and the cries just go on and on in the fanboy wars.....Nintendo is a company......but they have a following that crave for their main mascots to have more active roles than once or twice in a consoles life time......and they do this while still putting out quality.......

in the end....i found the article guilty of the same things it remarks are wrong with the game.....to point out a valid argument.....add something new please.....bye

[Shnazzyone]

It makes Nintendo haters butts hurt.

Face it... Red Dead Redemption is an awful lot of cut and paste from the GTA formula 2... but let's gloss over that it's just wild west GTA and pretend it something brand new.

Galaxy 2 is a whole new game... stop bein a flamer article writer. That's for the n4g comment makers.

[FinalomegaS]

Went to the web site and saw this in the corner> * SEGA NERDS

Give me a freaking break! Everyone on this site that keeps blabbing that it doesn't deserved 10s did play the game right? No? oh because ranting from a blog about how a game doesn't deserve 10s make sense?

Not defending the 10s but when a game gets 10s that is the reviewers decision, maybe he likes Mario games.