Rumor: Natal To Cost $149 – EDGE

That’s according to a trusted source, who told EDGE that the motion sensing camera will also be bundled with the Xbox 360 Arcade console for $299.

[topgeareasy]

rip-off

[Blaze929]

let's not be dumb - I think MS knows very damn well no one is going to buy the think even over $79.99 USD. And for the core market they are doing this whole thing for, can't be more than $69.99 USD. Hell, maybe $59.99 USD.

As we already know, this is not about MS ripping off their consumers with overpriced add-ons like the HDD and wireless adapter - this is a desperate attempt to get into Nintendo's market and prolong the 360's life span. And I'm sure they know damn well they can't do that with something that costs too much.

It's Microsoft, they can afford to sell this thing at a lost and that's what they are expected to do by analysts in order to get it into as many homes as possible and not so much concerned with immediate profit.

[Godmars290]

Still, you're talking about the company selling 160GB HDD for over $100. Selling Natal bundled with an Arcade for $300, weather or not a 360 price drop goes with that, is something I could see.

Especially if it then meant those 1st 360 buyers went right back out to buy those HDDs.

@Blaze929:
How much was the HD-DVD add-on?

@shovelface88:
Yes, the PS3 was $600, and standalone Blu-ray player were $1000.

No way I'm defending the PSPgo, not when they couldn't even put a camera in the damn thing at that price!

[VoicesInMyHead]

HD-DVD add ons are pretty cheap meow

[bobcostus]

Like they are the only ones, I distinctly remember the PS3 costing 600$ and the pspgo costing 250$. Don't act like they are the only ones.

[peeps]

but the large hdd's and hd-dvd add on are more aimed at the 'hardcore' gamer who is likely to spend more money.

natal is aimed at the casual gamer and so they will wanna keep the price as low as possible.

part of the reason the wii has sold so well imo is simply because it was the cheapest of the 3 consoles

[SPARTANVI]

Of course HD-DVD drives are cheap now. How is their current price relevant? Godmars is probably comparing prices of NEW hardware. The format is as good as dead, as such the players have been liquidated.

When the format was still fighting the good fight, the players went for about $100. I wouldn't be surprised if this estimate is correct, although for the sake of my pocketbook, I hope it's sub-$100.

Proprietary hardware is notoriously expensive no matter whose name is on it.

[TOO PAWNED]

Software sells hardware. If they have software, it will sell, if not, then it wont that simple

[AtatakaiSamurai]

you see how people pay for pretty much whatever ms puts out. hd dvd, live, etc why not 149 for this? they know many people will buy it cause it from microsoft and they will justify it anyhow.

just watch, natal will not show any racing game like they showed with those actors last e3 and will not have milo cause ms doesnt have that kind of high level voice recognition. they will just do party games at e3 with celebrities smiling and laughing and many people will go buy natal for 149 easy

[ruiner4482]

lulz hahahahaha! Bubbles for you sir!

[HolyOrangeCows]

The 4th source claiming it to be priced between $150-200 USD value.
Interesting.

It wouldn't shock me if a company that charges $100 for a 120GB HDD and $100 for a cheap wireless add-on and etc would pull this.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

You do know when the PS3 was $599.99 the 360 was $499.99, so what's the point of that comment? Even back then the add-on were worse, still coming back to the same point, the add-ons cost too much?

[fr0sty]

$150 standalone isn't too far fetched. A 2 camera system (one full color, one infared with infared light attached) with licensed technology, at least 2 microphones, and a couple of years worth of software coding put into it isn't going to come cheap. Microsoft may be willing to accept a loss by bundling it with a $300 Xbox 360, but they will try to recoup their losses by selling it to the core gamer market for a profit. The core gamers are secondary with natal, as MS has already suggested by saying their launch lineup is mostly casual titles.

They instead are only interested in selling new consoles with Natal bundled in, which is where they're willing to take the loss. The casual Wii audience does not already own a 360, and since those are the ones MS is targeting, those are the ones that will get the $150 unit bundled with a $200 Xbox 360 for $300. The core gamers that already own a 360, and already pay for online capabilities, overpriced hard drives, etc. are the ones they are going to try to make up some of that loss (if there is any, or profit off of them if not) with.

They're nowhere near as interested in selling you, the current 360 owner, Natal as they are in selling new Natal equipped 360s.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

The pricing is on the high end of what I think MS might get away with, and adoption rates will take a hit. This is just a rumor, but matches the Swedish price of 1500 Swedish Kroner, which I mentioned in the past $1 = 10 Swedish Kroner in buying power.

With that said, MS is usually smart when it comes to pricing and they no doubt will have a good plan behind it. MS already announced this is like a console re-launch for them so I expect pricing to be lower. They intend Natal to be a platform, not just another accessory.

Any business intending to survive needs to make a profit. The way MS priced their console low, but accessories high is a smart business model that nets them a profit, not a loss!

Of course, if you have it the way popular opinion is, you would have cheap products INITIALLY and soon to be bankrupt companies with a bunch of people unemployed.

[deadreckoning666]

Yeah, thats about right. Considering all the dumbasses that bought a Wii for 250 bucks, $149 for gesture controlled gaming is the sweet spot for the American mainstream. I bet that THIS will be the actual price.

@topgeareasy- North American 360 gamers actually agreed to buy a Wi-fi adapter (perhiprial) for 100 bucks. If people are THAT stupid, only 50 bucks more for Natal would be a steal in the minds of many.

@Blaze- It'll be $149.99 for the CHEAPEST Natal bundle, which will most likely include a game. Were talking Microsoft here, the same people who are in 2nd place in the BIGGEST gaming market in the world by using advertising that fools people into buying their crap.

Oh and I'm guessin that there will be a $100 360 price drop and their gunna sell Natal+Slim 360 bundle for 300 bucks.

[Blaze929]

are you serious? $149.99 for an add-on? Add-ons have trouble selling as it is since it's always "optional" but making something optional and expensive is one of the most retarded things someone can do. Far from the sweet spot.

and what do you mean "American mainstream"?

[Anon1974]

When you think about it, Natal would be a reasonable value. For a family, if you buy a Wii then have to buy extra wii-mote's, nunchuks, wii-motion plus and battery packs for all that's going to add up pretty quick. Natal is actually fairly priced when you take that into consideration.

But that's the thing. You'd have to do your homework. Your casual gamer buying a system for their family is going to see this package for $299 and then see the Wii with family friendly Mario happily waving at them for under $200 and isn't going to worry about the price of extra controllers, they're going to buy the Wii. Or, when you start talking about $299, what other console do we know that costs $299? What's more of a value, a console for $299 with a camera controller or a Blu-Ray player?

I think Natal has a tough road ahead.
Edit below: I 100% agree. It's $150 add on and we know historically how well expensive console add ons are received. If it were $50 I still think it would have an uphill battle.

[Biggest]

darkride, you said: "But that's the thing. You'd have to do your homework."

As evident by the many 360 buyers in the early years, homework isn't done. The advertisements will do the homework for the people that buy the Natal. A better value isn't usually the most purchased product when it comes to gaming. But at $150, it will be passed over anyway. It is an add-on no matter how hard you wish it otherwise.

[sikbeta]

It's more affordable than the other proprietary stuff from MS

O-T

[RUMOR]: look at headline ($149) + the alternative source (£100), is This conversion correct?

[Godmars290]

Yeah, but this is the 2nd rumor that puts it at $100 or more. While MS talks about it like a new console launch.

[MNicholas]

Considering the fact that they removed the internal processor last year, it's now nothing more than a USB video/audio capture device.

$149 is pretty steep for, what's essentially, a webcam. Maybe it comes bundled with a bunch of games.

What Microsoft should do, if they ever want to get out of last place, is a $199 Bundle that's Natal Webcam + Arcade + Something like Wii Sports.

The problem is that the Xbox brand is only appealing to a small segment of the population.

[iamgoatman]

Firstly, the processor wasn't removed, it was downgraded.

Secondly, since when has the 360 been in last place? The PS3 may be selling well, but it's not there yet.

And lastly, 40 million people is now classed as a small segment of the population?

[MNicholas]

What Microsoft removed from Natal was the more powerful processor that did the motion sensing calculations and instead moved those calculations onto the 360's own CPU.

So what's left of Natal is just a USB powered Audio/Video receiver, in other words, a USB webcam.

And yes, the Xbox brand is not a universal brand like Nintendo or Sony. The software sales are very revealing. The sales by genre show that most XBox360 end-users represent a narrow segment of the population.

At the opposite end of the spectrum is the Wii, which appeals to everyone but the hard-core gamer.

As for hardware, simply look at total sales since all three were on the market:

Wii: 71M (Launch price: $250)
PS3: 35M (Launch price: $500, $600)
360: 35M (Launch price: $300, $400)

Just as many or more consumers felt it was worth paying 50% more for the PS3 and twice as many chose the Wii.

[iamgoatman]

"The software sales are very revealing."

Ah yes, that's why the majority of multiplats sell better on the 360, because they represent a narrow segment of the population. By that logic, the PS3 represents an even smaller segment.

"the Xbox brand is not a universal brand like Nintendo or Sony"

Considering that Nintendo and Sony are company names, unlike "xbox" which is a product brand name, that's not surprising. Microsoft is also a much wider known company than either Sony or Nintendo, even if "xbox" is not as synonymous as say "playstation".

"As for hardware"

As you stated, both the 360 and PS3 have sold 35m in the same period of time, with the 360 selling 5 million more due to it's year head start. But I fail to see how that puts it in last place sales wise? You can't just ignore an advantage in sales because of a earlier market window and because it suits you.

As for the 50% felt it worth it to spend $600 on a console/blu ray player that at the time had very few titles, is nothing to be proud of. But I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with some ignorant fanboy who sees only what he wants to see.

[MNicholas]

You wrote:

<<that's why the majority of multiplats sell better on the 360, because they represent a narrow segment of the population. By that logic, the PS3 represents an even smaller segment>>

Try again Jimmy. Those games you're talking about actually prove my point because the largely target the so-called "hard-core" gamer who's known as a big spender on games. Nearly all 360 owners are of that one type while PS3 owners are more varied which is why those games sell better on the 360. This is also why a wider variety of games sell well on the PS3.

<<Microsoft is also a much wider known company than either Sony or Nintendo, even if "xbox" is not as synonymous as say "playstation".>&a mp;a mp;a mp;g t;

No it's not. Just google the many studies that demonstrate your wrongness on this point. Sony, in particular, is a much more recognized brand than Microsoft. Internationally, Microsoft fares even worse.

<<As you stated, both the 360 and PS3 have sold 35m in the same period of time, with the 360 selling 5 million more due to it's year head start. But I fail to see how that puts it in last place sales wise?
You can't just ignore an advantage in sales because of a earlier market window and because it suits you.>>

Because it was a comparative analysis which means that you take sales over the same time period. Basic stuff dude. Business101.

<<As for the 50% felt it worth it to spend $600 on a console/blu ray player that at the time had very few titles, is nothing to be proud of.>>

Any business owner/investor would disagree. That kind of sales performance is a sure indicator of much greater demand. Economics101. Supply-Demand curves. Same volume at higher price means more demand.

I'm a nice guy so here's a link for you to learn how to better interpret sales data:

http://www.investopedia.com...

[solidjun5]

How much you want to bet that you have a family member who bought a wii. I mean, I got a wii and while I may noto support it so much, I still decided to buy the system.

Also, Blaze is right. $149 for an add-on. That's quite high for anyone to plunker down. I hope it works out cause the concept is cool even though we haven't really seen if it's going to completely work (E3 is right around the corner). However, that's waaaaaaay too high for a system. Then again, this is a rumor and until it has been validated, I'll treat it as that.

[bioshock1221]

I agree if it cost anything over $100 then I'm not buying it. I'm now starting to believe it will thought. It should cost $50-$80 and I will by it.

If it cost anything over $100 it will fail unless they bundle it will every single Xbox 360. But it will have a hard time selling individually.

[eggbert]

they are aiming for people who don't have 360's.

[niceguywii60]

Jesus there is a lot of PS3 fanboys in here. It's almost as if they're showing a sign of relief because of the rumor allowing them to sleep at night.

Natal will not cost so much and it will do good because it will be marketed as not needing all the peripherals the Wii needs and Sony's will have.
People already spend a ton of cash on Wii peripherals and some will even spend the hundreds of dollars on PlayStation Move, because you need to buy the sub controller plus more Moves and sub controllers for each member of the family.

Of course PS3 fans know this so they try and make a lot of noise trying to direct the attention away from Move when it comes to over all price.

PS3 fanboys are voting on the story rumor feature and it says PS3 fanboys hope and wish Natal costs a lot, I wonder why?

[solidjun5]

seriously, you sound really butt hurt you big 360 fanboy.

[evrfighter]

I was expecting $199 so this is welcomed news. I plan on buying Natal day 1.

[8thnightvolley]

TOTAL RIP OFF.. that is just u f*cking high and i aint buying ... SONY please make urs alot cheaper so i knw what i will do in a heartbeat

[AAACE5]

Seemed believable at first, but then the logic didn't add up!

One golden rule in the videogame world stays true... Take a loss on the hardware and make money on the software!

Natal is new hardware, so the goal is to get it in peoples hands. Most will feel that something like this isn't a necessary part of thier gaming experience, so they will have to keep the price low in order to get it in peoples homes!

[Chris399]

This would be suicide.

[NeoBasch]

It's about what I expected. They charge $90 for a wireless network adapter. Why would they charge less for this? It just didn't make sense. Nor did the naysayers when I suggested a $120 price tag. Whatever. It is what it is. It's Microsoft's bed. They made it; they'll have to sleep in it too.

[ElementX]

I don't trust anything Edge says, just look at their review scores!

[Fishy Fingers]

It's form a "trusted source" so not directly Edge and of course it's rumour, although the article implies the source is the same as their early Gears 3 information which was pretty much spot on.

[The Wood]

so true

[sgw_dec0y]

No way it will be 149. EDGE fail

[Killzone3Helghast]

yeah especially when the Wii cost that much and is more appealing for the casual gamer because everyone and their mum owns one

probably the dog too

[Killzone3Helghast]

it would only sell like 100 copies if this was true rofl

[NYC_Gamer]

how much will all these cost together?

1)move controller
2)navigation
3)ps eye

[Fishy Fingers]

Think the "confirmed" estimate (oxymoron I know) will be $100 for the starter pack, which includes, Move controller, camera and game.

Individual I dont think anythings been confirmed.

Although, of course if you want a few players that will require a few controllers, Natal you wont.

[NYC_Gamer]

long as i can get the whole move package for around 100 bucks im cool...

[PirateThom]

Starter kit with a PS Eye, a Move motion controller, and motion-control enabled software, priced under US$100.... so, probably a bit less than Natal.

[Alcon Caper]

You'd have to buy another for another player as well as the separate nunchuck add-on for each player as well. this has been discussed before and it totals to about $240.00 total.

[PirateThom]

Completely irrelevent to the question and not what was asked.

[morganfell]

Just ask how much the Eye costs because that alone provides the features of Natal. With Move and Navigation you are getting MORE than Natal can do. Those three items, Move, Nav, and Eye are far beyond Natal so your question is hardly one evaluating equality pricing.

[Rhythmattic]

At least you can play with the lights off.... I like gaming in the dark....

[Pennywise]

You better be able to play with the lights off. God forbid anyone SEES you playing natal.... what an embarrassment! lol

[Biggest]

But if you're playing in the dark, how will the Natal see your bright orange jumpsuit?

[PS3PWNSALL]

Natal can capture in 3D space. The eye only does 2D. Where have you been?

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

And a Game included.

[CYBERSNAKE]

Both Move and Natal will be a rip off and totally unnecessary. Just wait a few years for the Wii HD

Watch how many games will lack quality they used to just so the developers can work on stuff for the motion controllers.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Better you watch and complaining about Move when I will enjoy the Innovation in Gaming in Hardcore Games =).

[Al Bundy]

Better than $199 but still too over priced.

[NewsForSnowflakes]

What's going on?

UPDATE: Never mind.

Thanks Columbo

[Pennywise]

Edge has had their heads so far up MS's rear ends that they would know!

[Omega Zues]

"That’s according to a trusted source"

Its a TRUSTED source! So! It must be true then!!1!11

...

>.>

[Hyrius]

Well, that source leaked a lot of things about Gears 3 which end up being real, so who knows ?

[Noah]

thats to expensive for an add-on.

[Doc Sony]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this actually turned out true.

The sad thing is the zealots will buy it.

[keysy420]

any higher and im not buying it a eyetoy cost 25

[callahan09]

I agree with you. 50 bucks is my upper limit. If it costs more, it doesn't really matter what games they release to utilize it. The only game so far announced that I am interested in that will use it is Fable 3, and that game won't require it, so... 50 bucks is the most I could justify, and that's only assuming they announce lots of nice looking content for it at E3.

[digimau]

MS is Crazy?

In Autumn the PS3 250GB bundle Whit Move is a 299/349$!

The Natl whit 360 Arcade the same price????

Epic Fail!!!

[MajestieBeast]

Natal is the next 32X or Sega Cd both failed because they were 149$ addon's.

[KillerPwned]

That`s to much for my fancy

PS Move here i come :)

[DelbertGrady]

I have a feeling MS will bring lots of surprises to E3.

[Alcon Caper]

Man, Soda, I'm sorry they've taken your bubbles, man. You're a good contributor and I've always appreciated your posts.

I say that if people are paying over $100 for a one game rock band set, then MS initially charging $149.00 for a peripheral used for many games in new ways. If this is the price, they better show some quality stuff at E3.

I think if they can sell it there, then they've set themselves up for

1. Selling it to the hardcore (casual-hardcore) gamers for a few months.
2. Getting positive responses from the public.
3. Lowering the price at Christmas time.
4. ...encouraging 3rd party cheaper brands...??? (Madcatz Camera???)

I don't think they'll initially sell a record amount at the door. But I think this is a tech that will have to slowly catch on and eventually become popular, ideally...

[Funky Town_TX]

The whole rock band thing is crazy. I have GH but it was $60 with a game and guitar. The Beetles RB was like $150 at launch right? I'm not a Natal fan right now, but maybe it will do good.

[Alcon Caper]

Thanks good point too, bubbles. I think Rock Band really tried to cash in when they made the $60 Rock Band Drum set. They really showed what kind of money they could charge for peripherals. I definitely see the fad of Rock Band and other Bemani fading away (DDR, Para Para Paradise, that Donkey Kong drum game, even Samba de Amigo).

What will hopefully separate Natal from these peripherals is that it will be used generally more for interaction w/ Live. Scrolling though Netflix, Game Demos, Arcade, using the voice for commands like play, stop, pause. Even listening to the radio on Last.fm.

Sometimes if I'm not too inclined to go to the Gym, I'll work out at home w/ weights and do pushups etc. I'll have Last.fm on in the background (love it). It will be even better when I'll be able to control the radio without having to go to the controller each time I want to mute or skip to the next track.

I believe that's the grand scale that Natal will bring. Interactivity with the Dashboard will give Live endless possibilities outside the realm of gaming.

If they can convince the public that devs are really utilizing the camera in games, I think it's worth the hype that a relaunch usually has.

They are definitely gambling, however. But when has MS never gambled...

[Simon_Brezhnev]

lol i see u couldnt think of a way to spin it

[Godmars290]

Or not, and cover it up with a lot of performances from Cirque Du Soleil...

[biggame901]

While it's not 200, $150 is still too high. Add ons have historically not been successful, mainly because they are optional and sometimes expensive. If Microsoft wants Natal to be successful, then the price has to go down.

$79.99 is the max it should go. Any higher, and it's dead on arrival.

[4cough]

I wouldn't pay no more than £50...I don't know what that is in monopoly money.

[ballsofsteel]

while normally i would say paying 150 for this would be ridiculous but considering idiots bought a 250 dollar wii who knows what will happen.

[heylo]

150 freakin' US dollars for a webcam?
the $350 PS3 Move bundle will destroy lagtal

[Trroy]

Natal was never going to be cheap -- you get what you pay for, you know. Did you really want it to cost not much more than a 360 controller?

[hill71]

nafail

[crapgamer]

Most people already knew about the bundle, it's just going to be bigger news when it's the Slim 360 bundled with it. It's a steal IMO. Plus this is just speculation at this time. Those comparing it with the eye toy or just a camera need to do a little research first. Nobody is forcing you to buy it, but for me and many others it's going to be a day one purchase.

[iamgoatman]

If this was true, MS would be shooting themselves in the foot.

MS is looking to get this into as many homes as possible, this can't be treated like some small add-on like a wifi adapter, where you can charge some high price for the few that will buy it.

Natal needs to be priced as low as possible if they want to attract new gamers/people to the platform. MS are trying to get in on the Wii's current dominance of the motion control market, and in order to do that, they need to attract the casuals, not scare them away with a crazy price tag.

That is why I'm skeptical on this rumour, MS are not stupid, and this isn't about ripping off your current user base.

[devilhunterx]

hahaha

[tiamat5]

If this is true Microsft must really be confident in the face of the Wii and the Move too ffer the Natal at this price. They would be taking a huge risk. If it works they will get a huge pay off, if not Natal will die like the Sega Cd and 32X did.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

you mean like the Sega Activator?

[SuperStrokey1123]

They have some sweet hair in that video

[JANF]

Natal=fail
Move=Fail
Wii=Fail

This moving control thing sucks.

[Glasscocked]

So far the Wii is the only one that has gotten it right. Natal looks like a turd and Move is a complete ripoff of the Wii. I think Move will be better performing than natal, however Sony has proven they have no clue what makes a good motion controller when they released the sixasses.

Let's face it, the Wii sold well because it was the first to market and they did it so it was responsive. It was new tech that a lot of people who aren't gamers thought was cool. The rest of this crap is just gimmicky "me-too" garbage the gaming community could do without. The only people talking about these turds is the media and the companies hocking them, that alone should tell you there is no interest in the market.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

i disagree with the move comment. Sony has been experimenting with Motion Controls for years before the Wii, as early as 2001. The Move may look similar than the wiimote, but its internals are completely different, making it more responsive than the wiimote and give it full 1:1 motion tracking which is not an add on like the wiimotion plus, but its already built in to the device, not to mention, it works in conjunction with a camera, which means, augmented reality gaming.

But i do agree that Nintendo got it out to the market first.

[JANF]

It does not matter if Move is more responsive or not, this new motion controllers, are targeted to the casual market and what would make a casual gamer get Move or Natal over the Wii, nothing, not the games since Nintendo has the best casual games and not the price for sure. I think this new peripherals are destined to fail.

[MastermindPS360]

well considering you only need one natal for 4 people

with move some games 4 move controller 4 nunchucks......we all know that will be over 200 dollars...even if you don't have friends some games like lights out you have to have 2 move controllers and a nunchuck for other games....still high price

new 360 controllers are 39.99 now while ps3 controllers are still at 54.99....for a while now....

just saying

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I could see that conversation though...

Allard "What should we price it at?"

Ballmer "Whats this thing do again"

Allard "Its like a controller for up to 4 people"

Ballmer "Well then price it equal to 4 controllers"

Allard "Seriously? That is a bit much dont you think?"

Ballmer "Jay, I am not sure you get the Microsoft way"

Allard "Instead of running things, do you think I could just consult so when the fanboys go nuts on price I wont get blammed?"

Ballmer "Sure, sure....you are replaceable"

Ballmer "Hey Robbie, you got the whole Division now"

Bach "F*ck that, I am gone"

Ballmer "Whatever, I will find a few new lackies"

[MajestieBeast]

Ps3 controller has bluetooth and doesnt need batteries.

[Briefcase Joe]

You can only have 4 controllers at once using the PS Eye. Any combination of Move and Navigator controllers, but it can't equal more that 4. You can't have 4 Moves and 4 Navigators running at the same time.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi__]

I would rather buy another PS3 for $299!!! ;-D And i will buy another PS3(i want a PS3:Slim soon) ;)

[Glasscocked]

No chance I am buying this for any price, probably still not interested if it were given to me.

[jjesso1993]

erm would not surprice me but what else wont surprice me if it still gets bought ms fanboys are stupid they buy 120gb hdd's that have rip of prices they spend stupid prices on wifi adapters and and spend stupid prices for xbox live every year ms will never ever stop unless people stop and realise what greedy bastards they are.

[Funky Town_TX]

The only way this thing could move units at $150 is if it came with like 10 games with it. And I'm not talking about crap games like the Wii has. I can't wait to see what the games will be like for it. I'm courious about the tech but not the gaming aspect of it.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Wow... "If" that truly is the cost, I doubt I will jump into Natal. MS would need to bundle it with Fable 3 for me to even consider it.

And maybe now we know why J. Allard and Robbie Bach departed. Something tells me they were not on the same page when it comes to Natal.

[Denethor_II]

How much does PS Move cost?

[saint_john_paul_ii]

Bundled at under $100 US Dollars. it comes with a Move controller, The PS Eye Cam, and a game.

[Denethor_II]

Wow, what a deal!

[JANF]

...

[ceedubya9]

But they better really have something earth shattering available for this thing if they really want it to take off and be a big hit.

I know that for myself, I would have spent 100 bucks on it as an impulse buy. 150 is a bit much for me, and probably most consumers. At that price, its near the price of the low end console that its intended to be used with.

I'll probably get some move controllers first off, and maybe by the holiday season, if Natal seems worthwile, I'll grab one to go along with the (hopeful) redesigned 360.

[Dorwrath]

At that price I won't buy it. $49.99 and I'll may buy it. Not buying move either. If I want to shake a stick around in the air or without a stick I'll just use my Wii.

Needless to say Move and Natal will just become dust collectors a few years down the road, just like the Wii.

[thehitman]

Confirmed. I want to laugh my f&cking ass off at M$ for becoming an epic failure.

[rob6021]

I wonder if it's Microsoft behind these price rumors.. So you guessed it when the actual price is announced lower, everyone's all excited..

[iliimaster]

wow come on they cant be that dumb to think that 299 the same as the ps3 and make it sell??? ur nutts, plus u gotta pay XBL and the system itself has a history of messing up... get this guys "natal" is sooo groundbreaking and sooooo FUTURE of gaming right? xbox sells a cheap wireless adapter for 99.99 and natal? u gotta believe its well over 100 bucks... PASS i already own a ps eye all i need now is the controls and im rollin!

[Captain Tuttle]

They're nuts. At this price Natal will fail

[CrazyOrange]

as long as it stay the same and not get downgraded to be cheaper
im all oover it!

[JonnyBigBoss]

I'd much rather get PlayStation Move and 2 games than 1 Project Natal.

[ceedubya9]

I'd probably do the same thing.

[unworthyBOZO]

That's way too much, then again people stupid enough to spend 200$ on plastic instruments so it would not surprise me if this sold well.

[-MD-]

79.99$ is what I'm placing my bet on.

[bjornbear]

still a bloody rip off

[witchking]

I don't play the Wii that sits in my house. My kids occasionally get on there but the older they get the more dust it collects. We are definitely more 360-oriented.

I was not planning on playing Natal games; I just don't have an interest in playing a game without a controller. However, I did have an interest in how the motion controls might be used in the dashboard...

But for $150? Um, no.

[The Milkman]

The price is pretty high and that doesn't surprise me. It better have good games that par with the Wii has or I'm just going to skip Natal and go with a Wii. I haven't bought a Wii yet and there's still games I would like to play like Monster Hunter, Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, Zelda, Paper Mario, and maybe some others I missed out on. I'm not all into the motion hype for either the PS3 or the Xbox 360 to be perfectly honest. The only reason I'm thinking about a Wii is because of games not the motion. I think it just looked stupid playing Socom with the PS3 motion controller the game is meant for a controller. Only kids get into games so much they have to act out whats on the screen. If your talking about putting me in a virtual world where I can get some alone time with any chick off the block and feel something, or b$tch slap some greedy developers that release half done games then thats when I might "Jump in". Until then you guys have fun by yourself playing cowboys and indians shooting your invisible guns. Milo actually looked interesting though (insert pedo joke here) I thought it was cool how you could interact realistically. It would a cool game to get your kid if he doesn't have any friends and you forbid him to go online. I don't know maybe Natal will have something cool and different down the road since it's the only one that only focuses on you and not other needed controllers. They just haven't showed much to like or hype about at the moment. Wii has control of the casual audience I believe personally. I dont see someone buying a Xbox 360 or a PS3 for $300 plus the motion devices over the $150 Wii that comes with it all plus awesome Mario games and some of the best casual games at cheap price.