OXM Interviews Mark Rein on UT3 and GoW

OXM caught up with Mark Rein this week to interview him about Unreal Tournament III and Gears of War. They talk about a lot of different things, but here are some interesting exerpts.

So what will 360 owners love about Unreal Tournament III?

Rein: It rocks. It's so much fun to play on console. There's a little bit of auto-aim like on Gears... what I like is none of our success on console has affected our games on PC. We have mods on UT for PlayStation3 and...

What about the 360 version?

Rein: To bring mods to 360, we're going to have to make some serious changes.

So you're not going to include them?

Rein: Oh, it's going to happen but 360 is a closed system so we have to work with Microsoft on that.

More at the source...

[nice_cuppa]

So 360 is getting the mod stuff and extra dev time !

lol.

; )

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How about all the good mods that will be allowed on the consoles are added to market place (free) and you just download them.

To all that think the mods on consoles wont be regulated just look at all the fuss manhunt and hot coffee made.
Sony, Microsoft and Epic will check the mods before allowing mass availability.

You might be able to transfer content by card to friends but that is very limited.

IF YOU DISAGREE DON'T BE A PUSS AND TELL ME WHY !
i hope n4g change the disagee to names.
i.e. you click on the number and it tells you who disagreed with you.

[MarioFromTexas]

I think UT3 on 360 will get Epic created content but how is joe doe from the street supposed upload on to the market place, I don't see that happening.

[Xbrainer]

im sure they will find a way

[PS360WII]

Well least it's easy for mods to get on PC and PS3. There will be mods for 360 but most likely they'll be pay for downloads.

[PS360WII]

Okay fine the 360 version is going to be the uberest of all the UTIII and will rain down and laugh at the inferior versions found on PS3 and PC. All the mods will be packed into the game and will be found for free on Marketplace with a red bow tied around it with Bill smiling and thanking us for all the loving we have all given to the Xbox brand name. Then they will give us all 360 owners a beta version of UTIV.

Now I expect 40 agrees and 12 disagrees with this post thank you

[HokieFan]

Why would you assume that you have to pay on Live? He said they're going to be there on the 360, they just have some work to do with MS. I think your assumption that you have to pay for them is why you have disagrees.

[PS360WII]

Well it's because it's an easy assumtion to make. Epic already stated that they wanted to put stuff out on Marketplace for free but MS said they needed to charge. Now suddenly we all expect MS to say ah never mind it should be free..?

[HokieFan]

I think MS said that is was a security issue, not a payment issue. They didn't want to open Live up to potential hacks and such.

Plenty of content has been released for free on Live. Remember the Gears of War maps? Those were even released by Epic.

[Lyberator]

As I said below here the publisher sets the price of content for the XBLM. Ms is not the publisher of UT3 so they can't make them charge for anything. In gears they could because they published it.

[PS360WII]

Well I'd love for the mods to be free. I'm not saying I want them to charge for the mods for they are user created. Hmm maybe they could use XNA for the mods on UTIII that could be a way for Epic and MS to come to middle grounds

[kewlkat007]

just like Windows, Ms is a very closed system indeed. Unlike the PS3 which has linux. If the 360 version comes out later and has Mods, as well as Extras and I know it will, then UT3 will be a hot one on XBL, that's if and when gamers get sick of Halo 3. So no worries here fellow gamers.

Now paying for Mods, well thats a different story, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm still not exactly sure the the PS3 mods will work either, if anyone can explain?.

[Odion]

KewlKat would i be right if i said that your pic is that of Linx from Chrono Cross?

[PS360WII]

I think Mark said you make the mods on the PC and then you can download it on the PS3

[kewlkat007]

A very low budget RPG, that I really liked, as well as Chrono Trigger. The thing is when will SE bring the Chrono series back...I have liked FF but this series deserves a next-gen game. Let me go start a petition...haha

PS360WII - Thanks, well that can be a good or bad thing, but for creativity, Open Mods can be better, as opposed to Mods Xbox 360 fans might have to buy or something, not sure how that is going to work but all I know MS is not as open as linux.

[Staircase]

Topic - Hopefully they will get the 360 mods system to work good, and be free. Even though I plan on buying it for the PS3... ^^;

kewlkat007 - I am sure a lot of people would sign that petition. The Chrono series was my favorite behind Final Fantasy, and I would love to see it come back. I hear a lot of other people saying the same, they should really bring it to this-gen.

[kewlkat007]

http://www.petitiononline.c...

I think it's my favorite too behind the FF series. I also have enjoyed the "Breath of Fire" series, damn CAPCOM need to Resurrect that one too...

So go and sign for Chrono Trigger...I'm surprise it is not on Virtual Console yet, on the Wii.

[PS360WII]

I do believe they want to make another Chrono the only problem they have is getting the original team together to make it happen :(

[felidae]

good stuff!

[nice_cuppa]

whoops.

its real.
i can't wait till we can compare 360 version to ps3 version.

(oh and so you know if you got the money the pc version will always be the best)

owned !

actually rev that would be a comparison that makes sense plus i got agree so i'm not alone.
p.s.
i just finished overlord...great game and funny too.
now i'm going to play call of juares.

@sushfix.
Microsoft spent lots of money on gears. they wanted some back.
Microsoft didn't spend lots of money on ut3. so they don't need to charge.
think about it !

[rev20]

You are looking forward 2 comparing the same game on two different consoles that are months apart i mean please

Open the door and take a step outside

[Ghoul]

btw 360 gets no extra dev time, its on halt at the moment couse all of epics ressource on ut3 are working on the ps3, so the 360 will just catch up once the ps3 version is out.

sorry but you guys really think you get those mods for free ?? haha good laugh, MS forced epic to charge for the gears addons wich epic intended to be FREE.

[Lyberator]

That's because on the XBLM the publisher sets the price for content. As MS is not the publisher of UT3 there is no reason to say it won't be free.

[Odion]

you do realize that the gears maps are going to be free in a month?

[BenzMoney]

For all the whining about MS not allowing mods on Xbox LIVE I have to say that I, for one, am GLAD that they don't. User-created mods are a ticking time-bomb. Look at what happened with Halo 2 when people figured out how to create mods for it! It ruins the entire game and is very hard, if not impossible, to fix after the fact. People will find a loophole and exploit it - it's just a matter of time.

If I want to play games with mods I will play a PC game. In fact, this is a major reason why I don't play PC multiplayer games at all - the lack of a unified environment. Xbox LIVE is a regulated environment where security is a priority, not an afterthought.

I say keep XBL closed. I would rather play a fair game (or at least as "fair" as you can get online) rather than have to deal with cheaters and 'modders' (people abusing them) online.

Mods that only affect things like your character's clothing, appearance, etc, I could care less about. But mods that affect the way a game plays just don't belong on XBL.

Anyways, that's the end of my rant. :P

[kewlkat007]

That's why I stated earlier it could be a good or bad thing, when it comes to an Open or closed system.

I remember people on Halo 2 had flying warthogs and sh!t, like WTF. I mean, there are some smart and crafty gamers out there looking to somehow cheat to their advantage.

PC games have that advantage for MODs, and it is not a bad thing to encourage fresh ideas and such, cause some of these mods gamers come with are awesome. Plus with XNA tools, you would think that it's all open for Modders to come up with some good stuff, bu tin the end MS have always and will always be closed. That's just business.

Like most open systems, whatever it is, it can be abused, which no longer makes it fun for a selected few.

[BenzMoney]

I agree - there are most definitely lots of talented people out there who make great mods! One PC game I love to play is Civilization (I've always loved that series) and they have a great mod community that comes up with some really awesome stuff.

...but there's a time and a place. After the modding fiasco on H2 I have trouble supporting modding, in general, on consoles.

[MarioFromTexas]

Every game on xbox live has already glitches on it. You can't even play gears without someone cheating. The difference is mods will create new maps and if you don't want cheating play with your freinds that's what I do....Look at Little big Planet, this game is going to be awsome due to the fact Sony is allowing user created content. I rather have the option of user created content, if you don't want it then you don't have to downloaded, it's a win win and it'll be free.

[BenzMoney]

You forget that MS has something called "Matchmaking" which tons of people love to use because it greatly simplifies things. It is a pain in the ass sometimes to only be able to play game with your friends. Sometimes you don't have 16+ friends online at the same time. The beauty of matchmaking is that it allows you to jump into a game as a single, double, foursome, etc, and you should still be able to do that without having to worry about cheating!

It shouldn't be my responsibility to make sure I have a cheat-free (or as close to it as possible) game. It should be a given.

Don't even get me started on Gears multiplayer, either. Epic messed that up SOOO badly it's not even funny. The problems with Gears of War multiplayer land squarely on the shoulders of Epic - they released a bare bones system that was years behind what most XBL games offer.

EDIT:

To clarify, the gameplay was great - it was the multiplayer system that was terrible. Rooms/server lists were bare bones, no ability to play with friends in ranked games, change starting weapons, etc.

[THAMMER1]

No need to worry or hate M$ just chill and wait for the best games line up in video games history. B@BY

[Rhezin]

f!ck you Rein, this game had XBOX 360 EXCLUSIVE on the box, now your porting it, but your also giving PC users NEW EXCLUSIVE content. I Say again F U Mark Rein.

[Anything but Cute]

The game comes out of PS3 first. So it's signature console is PS3. I see UT3 as a PS3 game. So really 360 version doesn't matter. The people who are comparing UT3 VS Gears, they are on the right track.

[razer]

This is a PC game, it's always been a PC game and now consoles are getting it.

It's funny that UT comes to the PS3 and now you fanboys think you invented it...

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

They're creaming themselves thinking about the prospect of having a game before the 360.

Lol. No worries. My gaming time is already booked with the great releases later this year. UT3 will come once I'm getting tired of those. The funny thing is, 360 gamers will probably have the better version, as it will be released later, and will have more features.

Not to mention a little nifty thing called...Xbox Live??

[ElementX]

You can't charge for mods because mods are created by users. If the users would receive the payment for the mods, then there would be a charge. I don't see MS charging for UT3 mods.