Red Dead Redemption's sub-HD PS3 display: Analysis

CVG: The PlayStation 3 version of Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption suffers from a number of deficiencies compared to its Xbox 360 brethren, experts have revealed - with the sub-HD rendering resolution being one of many.

[techie]

Lots of differences between the games - which is a shame. Man up Rockstar.

[LTC]

but framerate, pop in and so on. A great shame since it was mostly PS2 owners that supported R* last gen. We have just been kicked in the balls.

I dont buy Square games no more and now R* may be joining them.

[Sez]

No offence. But don't you guys think your overreacting alittle too much. Now some of you are putting R on your list of games dev's your not going to support because of the problems with this game. But later on when R release "THE AGENT" the same people will be saying they are one of the best out dev's out there and how that game will be one of the best ever made for the ps3.

If you only own one console. Would you have even notice a diffrence in the 360/ps3 version. If it was for these site comparing both games. If your happy with the version you brought and you enjoy the game. Stop worrying about which one is better. Just get the game and support the dev's. Your favorite console weather it's ps3/360 isn't going to win everytime.

[Another One]

I have a question. Why can't we just enjoy a great game without bitching and moaning about minor differences in graphics, pop-in, and other minor issues?

If it's a great game, then play it. Who cares about a few minor issues?

[Kleptic]

well its obvious that this time around the 360 version does seem to be unanimously described as 'better'...where as GTAIV, the first iteration of the this engine, was a mixed bag...as in the PS3 did some things better, such as draw distance and framerate, but was still at a lower resolution with different AA...

all I know is that for GTAIV...it made no difference to me...played both versions regularly and honestly could never tell anything other than the PS3 having slightly different coloring compared to the 360...

with RDR who knows...seems it runs worse than GTAIV, now having framerate and pop in issues...but whatever...a great game is a great game...and Rockstar never released an open world game that didn't have minor flaws like this...

what I am really hoping for is that this game isn't as overrated as GTAIV was...thats really all that matters to me...GTAIV received reviews just as high, if not higher than RDR has so far from the well known reviewers...and to me was very underwhelming compared to previous GTA's...I never played revolver though...so have no standards for this type of game as of now...still seems to be a must buy for nearly anyone though...

[FangBlade]

Who cares. It's not like RDR was supposed to be a graphical beast or something. RDR was never hyped for graphics. So what's the big deal? If it was Crysis 2 or Brink I would've been disappointed but RDR? nah..

[Fishy Fingers]

So you wouldn't be making noise if the PS3 version was the better of the 2?

[FangBlade]

Why would I? like I said, RDR wasn't suppose to be a graphical showcase. If it was Crysis 2, I would be really, really disappointed. Dont forget, RDR runs on the same engine as GTA IV, which is 2.5 years old.

[Greywulf]

be a fun western game. I mean thats not even a huge audience to begin with.

It only became a hot story when the 360's saw that the PS3's res was sub HD. In the face of all the Alan Wake laughter.

So this whole thing now is that they are trying to pretend that It being subhd is the same as taking 6 years to make a console exclusive on the 360 that utilizes the sole power of it,then turning up SubHD/low polygon models and falling on its face. So thats the same thing... Except.. its not. Thats all this RDR nonsense is.

RDR was made by rockstar. Rockstar did this last time with their same engine that they are using. Its an open world game, performs as expectantly.

CVG is going overboard into this though, I don't recall them going into alan wakes below RDR resolution & analysis. Its as if RDR is the biggest expected title of the year.

edit: @ Fishy

Nope. Why? Its a multiplatform game? Its like people always miss the reason that PS3 owners make issues of multiplats. FF was a giant LOL because it was claimed the 360 could run the game identical, it couln't. It highlighted the space & compression issues. That was about it.

PS3 owners don't really have to rely on a multiplatform version being better than another, since the exclusives are so beyond them to begin with. Multiplatforms are as close enough to equal than they have been. The PS3 version is rated just as high minus having 900 PS3 only sites giving the game 100%'s.

360 owners on this site justify the failings of their exclusives with multiplatforms. That door doesn't swing both ways.

Seriously, ask me if the PS3 version being subhd (like GTA4 with the same engine) Is going to bother me when I buy the game? Ask me if I look towards multiplatforms to see my ps3 shine?

[maxcer]

the big deal is you ps3fanboys tried to shit all over alanwake and conviction for subHD visuals, now that this is getting some attention its all moot because you pick and choose what games we can criticize.

[KingME]

If it didn't bother you, your mouth would be running like an outboard motor on a speed boat. It does bother you, so just man up and admit it.

In addition, just as PS3 fanboys claim that the reason why they never shut up about current PS3 momentum and software sells is because the 360 fanboys were saying two years ago that the PS3 doesn't have any games. Well, perhaps if you guys would shut up about the PS3's superior power and graphics and let the console speak for itself then perhaps this wouldn't be a big deal.

Karma's a B!tch isn't it. Now to be honest with you, I don't think it's that big of a deal, however I do see how some people feel a need to rub it in your faces.

I think that if a game looks great, plays well, and people like it, the who gives a damn whether it's 560p, 640p, of 720p. But obviously a very large population of N4G does this these silly technical numbers matter. The funny thing is, If this game was reported as 1080p (just trying to make a point.) even while being 640p, some of the people talking smack would be bragging on it being 1080p simple because the morons can tell the difference anyway, they just need something to whine about.

I think the game looks great on the PS3.

[hoops]

LOL. Who cares? You guys like Greywulf sure did when Alan Wake was getting hammered for being subHD. Now the shoe is on the other fanboy foot and you clowns cant handle it. LOL
Goes to show you being a rampant fanboy will bite you in the A$$

[Kleptic]

as someone that thoroughly enjoyed Alan Wake, and loves Remedy...yet only owns a PS3...I can see where it would get annoying having 50 articles up about its Sub HD visuals...when the game is actually really good, and looks notably better than most 360 titles...

but 360 owners have to see the glaring issue with this...RDR is a multiplatform title developed on an engine that we've seen before...an engine that was 640p the last time it was on the PS3 also...its not necessarily surprising that the new game is the same, right?...

criticize that all you want...treat it equal to the 360's 'graphical king' Alan Wake (which it arguably is, actually) being sub hd...if you are saying that the native resolution of particular game doesn't really matter..than I would fully agree...but if you are saying it makes the PS3 overall 'weaker' than the 360 or something...thats where a comparison such as this is completely pointless...

put up the 360's exclusive offerings against exclusives on the PS3...its been done before, and we all know the result...the games that are easily standing at the top of the list for best looking console games this generation...are ALL exclusive to the PS3...and ALL have absolutely state of the art tech incorporated into their renderers...killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War III, etc. ALL run at native 720p...and are untouchable so far this generation visually for a lot more reasons than that...

all I am saying is that we get it...its fun to push back when given the opportunity...but one thing you'll notice is that 360 owners seem to always be pushing back with a superior version of a multiplatform title...yet find themselves constantly defending games built from the ground up for their system (Halo 3, halo ODST, SSC, Alan Wake, etc.)...where as PS3 owners seem to be pushing forward with unequaled visual quality through exclusive content...a fan of either system has to realize how pointless it is to argue either way, because in the end it doesn't matter...So the 360 wins another multiplatform comparison...but still blatantly loses the argument of which system overall has the most impressive looking games...so who cares either way?...

[Double Toasted]

Ouch!!

[HammockGames]

Personally, I'm too busy enjoying the game to worry about pixel counting or comparing how it looks on another platform.

I think it looks & plays great - and yeah, I have the PS3 version.

Enjoy the game on your platform of choice and leave it at that.

[RedDevils]

fanboy like to complaint whenever they can

[Nike]

Personally, I think those guys complaining are ungrateful.

Though my friends have PS3s and 360s and I can play at their places, I have a low-end PC at home. Even if Red Dead Redemption came out for it (which it so far isn't), I wouldn't be able to play it.

Cherish the opportunity, people. Some of us don't even get it.

[deadreckoning666]

If I had a 360, I'd get the 360 version. Thats all I'm gunna say.

"Who cares
Personally, I'm too busy enjoying the game to worry about pixel counting or comparing how it looks on another platform."

So, if you don't care, whyd u click on an article that revolves around pixel counting?

[HammockGames]

This is a gaming website, and I enjoy gaming.

Hard to understand, huh?

Besides, fanboys need to cool down about this type of stuff. It's usually overblown. No?

[Christopher]

I question why they left in the blur elements from GTA4 instead of using the technology they used in the two GTA4 Liberty City Stories games, which showed a vast improvement from their predecessor with regard to sharp edges and textures.

[cyborg6971]

Who knows, time, money, although the latter isn't the issue.

All I do know is all of this pixel counting frame rate debate this gen is driving me mad. My first home system was an pong game. And if we were counting pixels in the atari era, we could do it on one hand.

The only thing you need to ask is, how good is the game? And if the majority of peeps say yes and that said game is up your ally buy it on the console you have the most friends with or enjoy playing with. (If there is online mp). Otherwise stfu.

All of this crap started when the 360 came out. The chest pounding was deafening. Now five years later the only thing they have to hang their hat on is a multiplat. That is so sad.

Ps3 exclusives graphically are compaired to other ps3 exclusives, and in some cases top tier pc games. So this game is not a win for the 360 fans but a lose for ps fans.

I think it's time to catch up R* come you can do better than that.

Buy the way how is the MP I'm on the fence about this game.

[Genesis5]

Well I've been playing the PS3 version on my 40" screen and it looks gorgeous. I honestly don't see any of this stuff they are talking about.

I'm just enjoying the game. You guys have fun counting pixels

[nveenio]

It is different, but it's not THAT BAD....I mean, I'm not as mad about it as I was about FFXIII. I think I can live with this. I was happy enough with GTA4, so this doesn't slice my crotch any worse.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Still looks a heck of a lot better than Halo and Splinter Cell.

[mikeslemonade]

It's kind of obvious that Rockstar lead the development on the 360.

On another thought the controls need to be fixed. The game feels like a beta. I have trouble climbing things like ladders and ramps because the controls are so clunky and slow.

[mookins]

Just like how 360 fanboys attacked the multiplatform versions of games on the PS3?

[Army_of_Darkness]

Damn R*! WTF man! even squareenix first game(FF13) did a way better job(in terms of production/ quality), even though the story sucked and all... But still, 2 games from R* for the ps3 and both inferior to the 360 version... how Pathetic! I'm not even looking forward to Agent anymore to be honest with you...

yes, I know, there are different divisions of R*, but that don't mean the quality standards should be any different!

[nveenio]

I'm only disagreeing because I'm still looking forward to Agent. I don't think Sony will let them botch an exclusive. It's probably why we haven't seen ANY of it. Sony probably refuses to show it until it's up to snuff.

[boodybandit]

now matters.

[Army_of_Darkness]

it always matter for most ps3 owners(including myself)... its just that I find it odd that it suddenly matters now to 360 owners..

[davidj88]

"I just find it odd how resolution now matters". It's like saying "my dog shit looks better because it's in a higher resolution than your dog shit", Fact is it would still be dog shit.
I'm not saying it's a bad looking game but if it was then resolution would have no bearing whatsoever, fact is i'll be loving every minute of it on my PS3 tomorrow when it's released here in the UK.

[Inside_out]

This game has alot of other problems beside the resolution...tree's missing...words missing from signs....draw distance....Resolution is the least of the problems...What Rockstar have to say about this?...

Does this mean Agent is sub-hd???....

[Aquanox]

Red Dead Redemption is one of the best looking games ever created and it's one of the two best games of this year along with Mass Effect 2.

The difference between both according to these screens is abbysmal. I thought these kind of differences are a thing of the past but I was wrong.

Xbox 360 is the best home of RDR undoubdtedly.

A big blow for those how believed that the sub HD 360 version of FF XIII was because of hardware and not optimization. RDR shows what the Xbox 360 can really do in a much more demanding game given the Open World nature of this game.

[JokesOnYou]

"The differences don't end there with missing objects, less foliage density, and missing shadows further plaguing the PS3 game."

"On the Xbox 360 trees are well alpha-blended; this combines foreground objects with the background to create the effect of transparency. The PS3 game doesn't achieve the same quality, resulting in trees suffering shimmering artefacts."

"There are a number of Level of Detail (LOD) issues on the PS3 game as well, making shadow and texture pop-in more apparent when you approach buildings. You'll even spot missing text on a number of background signs in the PS3 version. Self-shadows on characters are also often missing, which makes character's faces appear a tad flat"

"Perhaps most importantly, the framerate of the PS3 game is not up to par."
-CVG http://www.computerandvideo...

I wonder why we don't see names like Greywulf, Too Pawned, obama, Pennywise, sikbeta, Sevir04, raztad, snaz27, dog beliefs and so many more of the sony faithful on n4g, all calling for a lower score for the ps3 version of RDR, like they did in many of the FFXIII reviews, in regards to the 360 version(links below), hell at least it was only a case of the 360 version being sub-hd. While ps3 version of RDR is missing things and doesn't run as well as the 360 version. Yet you wont see 360 fans begging for lower scores on Bayonetta reviews or here in this RDR comparison thread. Really, its just comical, I would almsot believe sony soldiers had a backbone if some of the same ones who were so vocal about reviewers giving the same score for both FF versions had showed up and took the same stand with RDR. Now for the record I don't believe reviews should have lowered the score for either 360 version of FF or ps3 version of RDR, simply because the majority of the reviews state you likely won't notice the difference without the games being side by side= When a GAMER actually PLAYS this game he won't notice, unless of course he's really just a pixel counter is disguise playing both version side by side. lol
http://n4g.com/news/486946/...
http://n4g.com/news/486892/...
http://n4g.com/news/486399/...
http://n4g.com/news/486722/...
-and there was plenty more hatin threads just like these, karma is such a beeatch.

JOY

[booni3]

that you wont enjoy the game? If so, you should go last gen for a month or so to remember how games used to be judged on how fun they were and not there framerate, resolution, HD , IE LOOKS!!

does the phrase dont judge a book by its cover mean anything this day and age?

[kevnb]

a game with a terrible framerate is much less enjoyable. If I was playing a game on my pc and the framerate was that bad, id be looking for patches, lowering settings etc...
end of day, this game is not up to par technically. Its such a kick ass game that people play it anyway though.

[kevnb]

with a good framerate, the framerate is terrible on both platforms. same as gta iv was. There better be a pc version, because I cant play this junk.

[masterg]

I haven't tried the game on either console yet, but the images used here are useless.

Look at the PS3 text at the top right corner. Look how bad the image is compressed. The PS3 text is filled with pixels and distortion. When you compare than to the 360 image you can see that this image is not compressed nealy as hard.

I call you out computerandvideogames.com. That is an awful comparison.

[yoghurt]

maybe I have sub-HD eyes, because I really cannot see hardly if any difference - and i suspect it#ll bother me even less so when I am actually playing the game

[JonnyBigBoss]

I can't either, and I have 20/20 vision. I think people are just bored and want to overanalyze everything.

[BeaArthur]

Keep beating the dead horse. What is this like the 5th article on this subject in the last 2 days?

[Game13a13y]

^^^ agree, hoorraay.... the 360 version has superiour version than the PS3, but that's only visible when you pause and compare screen by screen...well anyway....lets celebrate!!

[Hanilugtehul]

well said:-)

[Nike]

"Keep beating the dead horse."

I think this well might be dry. Let's keep pumping it just to be sure. :D

[WMW]

i just want to know why 360 fanboy see this as something to brag about? when a bad port looks better, plays and has a higher res then most 360 games do. that is just embarrassing. even reviews don't say the 360 version is much better. i guess that is to be expected though after scc and aw failed to be the AAA goty masterpieces they were hyped to be. any small advantage is a win for 360 fanboys and the media haven't had anything to talk about lately. this is just making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[BeaArthur]

Same reason PS3 fanboys see the same type of things as something to brag about. Their idiots.

[tatotiburon]

love every second of the game and i unlocked some clothes for my avatar

[rroded]

but hey any bit of bad news for the ps3 is big news for the pro 360 crowd eh XD

[JonnyBigBoss]

That's sick. That reminds me of people in the military who are happy to kill people. It's disgusting, and everyone should want others to be happy rather than condemn them for preferring something else.

[ceedubya9]

Just realize that your statment goes both ways.

[Darkstorn]

The pixel rate is 20% lower on PS3? Sounds like Rockstar screwed up. That being said, it's not even going to be noticeable to most people.

[Hank Hill]

Both versions look identical to my human eye.

[Alcohog]

This whole article is just everything stolen from the GAF thread...

:|

[techie]

It's credited, so it's hardly stolen.

[BannedForNineYears]

-Will laugh when the source of those images were fake. And will wait for LoT..-
This whole article is pretty much just talking about this : http://n4g.com/news/526203/...

[jmmurillo86]

Differences are quite noticeable. It's a shame, specially the pop-in, but I'll enjoy my PS3 copy.

[divideby0]

I just dont see the jaggies and I have looked...I am playing on a 40" which has one of the best scalars on the market and the game does not show jaggies.. but there is really bad pop in, the worse being riding up to a corral and its empty than it starts to populate with livestock as if they were being beamed down.

Rockstar just BLEW IT.. period...

[fourtwenty2009]

R* fix this game!

[Pillville]

They can't patch an entire engine. If they could, they would have done it 2 years ago.

[heylo]

my guess is that the Rockstar devs still haven't dipped into the manual for the Cell SPU's...

[raztad]

Fully usage of the SPUs will require a full overhaul of the engine.

I expect Agent (which hopefully will boast a new engine fully tailored to the Ps3) to show what the guys at R* North can do w/o multiplatform constrains and port issues. E3 is around the corner. Meanwhile enjoy RDR, the game looks good anyway.

[Redgehammer]

am not a fan of the GTA4, but i am one of RDR and I don't think anyone should miss it regardless of their console preference.

[madkrazygames]

Yea I agree. It truly is a shame that both versions could not be on the same level. But in the end this only make R* look bad. Also why is the same news being posted twice?

[Ult iMate]

Well... 640p is still better than 540p, if you know what I mean.

[mrv321]

After reading some comments I was expecting my eyes to bleed, honestly I'm not seeing what's so bad with the PS3 one. I'm not denying it might be 640p, but in lot's of areas the versions look really very good and I honestly don't think this'll effect my purchase...

[ceedubya9]

This is just the time for some 360 gamers to find something to rub into PS3 gamers. PS3 gamers will do the same again at some point and the fanboy circle of life will continue.

Its great to have both consoles and be able to choose what you want instead of bickering in console war stuff. But then again, some multiconsole owners are some of the worst fankids of them all.

I think you will be very happy with your purchase, mrv321.

[Socomer 1979]

Seriously, this is coming from the same media who had Fox 10Pm news to report the ps3 meltdown of 24 hours on television.

The same media who said the clock bug lasted a few days.

The same media who didnt mention anything about final fantasy's problems and amount of discs yet will beat you over the head about popping in the netflix disc and how is such a huge annoyance.

The same media who predicted the ps3's DOOM.
The same media who said no one would use playstation home and it wouldnt make any money.
The same media that says free online is bad.

Today, ITs red dead redemption and how you need a pair of binoculars and a magnigying glass to enjoy playing the ps3 version. THis is Why im a Fanboy. I feel compelled to stick it to em 100 times worse.

I have RDR for PS3 and I was visiting N4G today to read up on its awesomeness. Instead im bombarded with articles about this stuff that i havent even noticed and im usually on the lookout for this kind of stuff with games. I really cant tell and i loved games like oblivian, infamous and gta4 where i believe RDR has exceeded them.

[mrv321]

How can you enjoy a game that doesn't run 720p natively despite looking almost the same as the same game running 720p? You must be a god.../sarcasm

[arakouftaian]

Its not nice the game looking , "%20" better on the Xbox
when its very clear that it could be the other way around
my prove aré Uncharted 2 KZ2 GOW3,etc.

But is just a 1 - point about the game.

Some areas does look sub-HD but
some levels look really good HD
and the game is fun to play
something fress, new. That any gamer will enjoy.
And the multiplayer is fun!!!

And its wird , for me the Multiplayer looks better
i guess the multiplayer part of the game
is full 720p HD , and the single player have some sub-HD areas
wird.?

[BubbleSystemSuck]

bubble for this.

i play games, not count pixels.

[techie]

What are you babbling on about?

[madkrazygames]

I wonder "how" or "if" R* is going to tackle this situation?

[xg-ei8ht]

RDR Engine goes all the way back to 2005, and was made for what console in mind, yep you guessed it, the 360, 360 was first out of the gate.

I'm sure there have been some updates, but i'm guessing not much.

Considering GTA4 renders more, kinda surprises me they have knocked out 720.
After i'm done with Infamous i might pick it up, then again i'm getting MNR this week.

There are so many games about, but i will pick it up sooner or later.

[AliTheBrit19]

LOL Here we go again.

I find it ironic

PS3 Fanboys are always ripping on many 360 games and calling them Sub-HD, despite the fact that they look incredible.

And now this.

Either way I think the PS3 version of the game looks beautiful, from what I have seen and heard, even if it is technically "sub-HD" - Surely there is a lesson to be learnt here? perhaps take a little humble pie?

In any case I'm getting the Xbox 360 version, mostly to play online with friends.

[raztad]

What is ironic is that after

Conviction (570p), FFXIII (540p) and the "graphical powerhouse" AW (540p) and claims of "resolution doesnt matter", "game looks good", now the same guys are making a party because a muliplat game has a better resolution on their console.

[Jeff257]

Exactly. I remember seeing so many threads about how SC: Conviction and Alan Wake would be the next leap in graphics and will beat Uncharted 2 as the best in console graphics. Then it was revealed about them being sub HD and those threads turned into I like gameplay over graphics and the resolution doesnt matter bs. So now so many bots are so butt hurt that they always have to try to point out when a multiplat happens to look some what better. I seriously cannot stand fanboys on either side but man it is really hypocritical for them to be changing their tune so fast about how certain things dont matter when it suits them to act like jackasses.

[Tony-A]

It's not like the PS3 version of games haven't been up to par before. I find it extremely random that this game suddenly sparked a huge uproar between fanboys.

(360 Fanboys) Shouldn't this be old news? I thought multiplatform games always looked worse, or did you just now get full proof?

[AliTheBrit19]

Agreed, for the most part the 360 version usually looks better than the PS3

But I guess its because

A) Gamers are expecting it to become more of a thing of the past these days and want them both as good as each other and B) It's a really big game.

[washingmachine]

by lookn at the pictures you can see the 360 is sharper and clear,i wont be buying it at retail price anyway,in uk it will be 25£ in a few months anyway lol

[1-oj]

Can't wait to play my PS3 version, picking it up very soon.

[Raoh]

honestly.. if it wasnt for sites saying something, i wouldn't have noticed..

would i want it to look better? sure of course

but the game is too good to care

[Lucreto]

I am disappointed with Rockstar. Like a lot of developers this gen they fail to learn from their mistakes. If they countered problems they should have tried to avoid them early on. I am sure the Rockstar North told them the difficulties on the PS3 and it loos like they ignored it.

All Multiplatform games should have the PS3 as lead platform at this stage. The only thing that is damaged is Rockstars reputation.

[kwiseguy]

I totally agree with you Lucreto...and what will eventually happen is that only people owning a xbox 360 will buy multi-platform games because if I own a ps3 I don't want to know that i'm not getting the best quality for my money...and certainly if i have both systems I will only buy exclusives for my ps3...this is definitely going to hurt these game companies in the end who need us as consumers to get their games.

[ReBurn]

Why should all multiplatform games have the PS3 as the lead platform? I don't understand that line of thinking.

Both PS3 and 360 have their own strengths and weaknesses that I believe really require games to be developed independently and for each platform. It's been demonstrated that in many cases a port is going to be inferior, so I don't understand why anyone would want any game ported. I think if anything gamers should be demanding that developers exploit what each system is good at.

We've seen masterful work on each system. One's not really better than the other. We just have our own preferences.

[1-oj]

You screwed up big time porting this game R* this is not a 360 exclusive.

[Ares84PS3]

It's enjoyable. I don't see anything wrong with the game while playing. It's not as good as the 360 version??? Oh well. Life goes on....we got tons of other games to play.

Maybe R* should as for some help from Naughty Dog like I said before.

[GAM3R7l]

It only does inferior versions of multiplatform games.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Which makes the game much more enjoyable to play and plus if you probably dont stick your eyes to the tv screen you cant barely tell the difference.

Quote from site: "...but the PS3 version drops frames more often than the Xbox 360. Nonetheless, the game's average framerate is said to be better than Grand Theft Auto IV and from hands-on reports and reviews, the PS3 version is incredibly playable."

But if R* can fix this resolution problem we going to have less framerate...hum :/

[MastermindPS360]

good thing i got it for the xbox....missed that bullet

[KillerPwned]

I highly doubt either version is better then the other grow up kids.

[Brklynty1]

this aint a damn treat!!!! what an exclusive costume and hideout? get real, but i do love this game XD well cant wait to see the deal with L.A. Noire, it was developed on ps3 after all, whens that game releasing? September?

[PS360PCROCKS]

Haha it's not that big of a difference people. The PS3 version does look slightly blurry. Big deal, I'm still enjoying myself. I don't have all day to stop and stare at the weeds and feel depressed "Because oh noz they're not as pretty as the 360 version"

[Jeff257]

I tend to stare up at the sky more. I especially loved how things changed during the thunderstorm. Also the sound is one of the best Ive heard in an open world game. Hearing the wind, rain, and thunder in surround sound was just amazing.

[TheHater]

R* would have made some improvement to the engine so their games can run better on the PS3 when compare to its PC and Xbox 360 counterparts.

[CryofSilence]

Rockstar has never been very good at programming graphics anyway. It's no surprise that the more difficult hardware has inferior graphics. It's rather disappointing that after more than 3 years, they haven't adapted. They'd better adapt for future projects like Agent and GTAV.

[Dorwrath]

Enjoy the game no matter what console you buy it on.

PS3 fanboys I have no sympathy. You started circle jerking every time this is an issue with a 360 game and now you act all surprised when the tables are turned and the 360 fanboys are getting their own back.

You can sure dish it out, but sure as hell can't take it.

On another note. I'm glad I bought it for my 360 instead of my PS3 only because most of my friends on a 360. if most of my friends owned a PS3 the graphics wouldn't have stopped me buying the PS3 version.

[ian72]

GTA4 looked good enough to me on PS3, I'm sure RDR will also look great. Got to wait 'till friday though to play it.(UK).
I love the type of games R* make. (GTA, Midnight Club, RDR).

[mastahmind]

i'm trying to convince me to go for the ps3 version as it is my most used console, but the 360 version looks really better. hmnn

[wissam]

It has been everywhere on the internet. reminds me of that great day when the ps3 has a clock bug.

[hoops]

I love when stuff like this happens. It shows how hypocritical fanboys from all sides really are.
Blasting Alan Wake...Blasting Splinter Cell...Now this game is SubHD on the PS3 and the same people bashing it are saying:

"What does resolution matter?"
"Its only a multi-Platform game..."
"I don't care..."

When Street Fighter was SubHD you heard the same crying...
Oh the hypocrisy.
One can only imagine if the roles were reversed and the PS3 version was HD and the Xbox360 was Subhd...
Now the tables have turned and the pathetic Xbox360 fanboys are jumping for joy like children and the PS3 fanboys are hiding and going into damage control.
NONE OF YOU OWN THESE COMPANIES TO CARE. If the game looks good and plays good, THEN WHO CARES. Get use to this subhd gaming this generation. BOTH the PS3 and Xbox360 are not poweful enough in general to have all the eye candy AND full HD at great frame rates and all high res textures. Youwant that...Buy a PC.

[SprSynJn]

"...experts have revealed..."

I found that part especially amusing.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Wow @ the amount of backtracking and crow being eaten in here. HILARIOUS!

[BYE]

I wouldn't be surprised if there are plenty of cpu cores unused on the PS3 while the 360 is used to its full potential...

They should have taken a little more time with the PS3 version.

[bviperz]

No comment by Rockstar. What's up with that?

[BYE]

There will be none.

Rockstar are marketing professionals, they know when to shut their mouth.

[ReBurn]

I've been reading all of the articles about this, and I've been looking at the pictures and videos. Seriously, the PS3 version seems to hold it's own. Side-by-side with the 360 you can see differences. But on it's own I bet the game is fantastic-looking on PS3. I've only seen two people who said they wish they would have gotten the 360 version instead of PS3.

My reservation is for the PS3 version, but I haven't gone down to pick it up because I've been too busy with work. Right now I'm still leaning toward it, even though I have a 360. The main reason is that I don't want to renew my Live Gold subscription to play online, and the online seems like it will be a blast.

[yamzilla]

The internet is full of pubic hair induced comatic syphiloids.

Read this or suffer from Munchausen by proxy syndrome

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

Poop on, great amerIcans, Poop on.

[EVILDEAD360]

Just take a trip back to memory lane when the Final Fantasy 13 PS3 is superior campaign was in full swing..the PS3 fans gloated all day long

But all they could say was the hair doesnt look as good and the cut-scenes werent Blu-ray sharp..

I said from day one..the game obviously still looks great..but the killer is when they state talking frame rate issues etc..

Then they went after Splinter Cell and Alan wake..

Fast forward and look at the hypocrisy in full swing..

Either way..no matter what system you own..it looks like Rockstar has got a classic on their hands..playing Alan and Lost Planet 2..but I'll hopefully pick this up by next week..too many games

Evil

[aussieracer]

I just can't believe Rockstar would be this lazy. Like they don't know by now that PS3 users are sick and tired of getting inferior ports. Everyone knows the PS3 is capable of so much more so they can't cover up their laziness by claiming that's all that was possible. What a crappy and incredibly lazy anti-aliasing technique. At this stage in the console life-cycle they should have put in the effort of updating their game engine which was quite obviously not up to the special needs of the PS3.

To those who say it's the scale of the game that limits the PS3 in this case, just look at GOW3. EPIC scale.

Another point, PS3 gamers shouldn't have to pay the same amount as 360 gamers for this game. Why should we pay the same for an inferior product?

[spiky1228]

CVG shouldn't judge console games when PC games performs at a higher resolution than both console but the market is dying. They should be focusing on why pc games is dying.

[spiky1228]

CVG shouldn't judge console games when PC games performs at a higher resolution than both console but the market is dying. They should be focusing on why pc games is dying....

[spiky1228]

CVG shouldn't judge console games when PC games performs at a higher resolution than both console but the market is dying. They should be focusing on why pc games is dying.

[Strider_X9]

The PS3 version looks fine, it's quite funny how a mountain is being made out of a mole hill.

Look, at the end of the day it looks great on both consoles, so just buy it already :D

[DigitalAnalog]

The game is was just made 1 year AFTER GTAIV's developement on a different team about 5 years ago. With both games being created at the same time, I should take it that NOBODY should be surprised with the similar outcome of GTAIV. The port at least isn't in Bayonetta's quality and if PS3 fans have the right to shoot this game down, at least do so when the development is AFTER the release of GTAIV (as an excuse) to touch the engine up to snuff.

I will buy this game because I'm fairly interested to what this "open-world" western may bring.

Peace out.

-End statement

[mistajeff]

how is mgs4's native resolution 'sub-HD'? if we're defining 'HD' as x720, wouldn't a native vertical of x768 be above 'HD'? or am i missing something more complicated, since the native aspect ratio is 4:3?

[ZBlacktt]

This is not a surprise and most always happens with a Blu-ray player has to share a game with a DVD. When something is made just for the blu-ray. It ends up being either the GOTY. Or noted one of the best things ever seen. No need in listing off those games again. We've all seen them time and time again.

Instead of everyone looking to see who's looks better. Both consoles game has issues to work out. Like lot ghosting in game... glitched movements at times. I know everyone else is having these issues as well.

[eddispider]

this is sad for ps3, not only sub hd but lower framerates blurry picture.......and so on sony have failed 3rd party!!!

[mythamp]

Its true, Sony might not be supporting 3rd parties much but it will only hurt R* on the long run. They have disappointed PS3 owners who are used to U2/KZ2/GOW3 level graphics and though didnt expect it to be up there but atleast upto xbox level graphics.

In any case, sony should focus on building strong relationships with 3rd parties, it only makes it a win win for both sides, instead of creating a paid psn service, bullocks! MS wannabe now that they have a good hold on the market share!

[Mr Lahey]

this is bullsh*t!

Don't believe all the hate! The game runs just fine on PS3 even if it runs a little better on 360. And to all you dissagreers, you haven't tried the PS3version. If you had, you would know all these problems with that version is hugly exaggerated!!

[jaosobno]

I would really like for Rockstar to comment on this situation. That is if they can come up with an excuse other than: "Sorry, we just didn't give a shit".

Somebody from naughty dog/guerilla/santa monica should bitch slap them until they come to their senses. You do not want to piss off 35 million PS3 owners, specially when your next project is an exclusive for that platform, because each of them is a potential buyer.

[horndog]

this is such a contender for GOTY and it got gimped and R* knows it. That's why they felt pitty for ps3 users and decided to throw in an extra area and pants to make them feel like they had the better version. It looks so good on the 360.

[bobdog626]

Your right it is a shame.Crysis was done on a single DVD .GPX will get better 4 both systems in time.just wait and see

[Djinn]

Its a good thing I don't care at all about this game.

[joker2k8]

i couldn't see the difference. but it never matter i was always going to get this for the PS3 anyway since i barely even play my 360 any more.

[breakdancefight]

I would love the option on the PS3 to install the game to my HDD. It would take care of most technical issues with this version.

[Masta Kaos]

If it was a exclusive game I wud be concern'd but its a Multiplat game....... everybody knws what the PS3 is capable of so lets move on ppl......dez nothing 2 see here......