Why Hasn't Sony Made Their Own Smash Bros?

PSE: They often say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, and it’s never been more evident than the current-gen era. Countless console shooters continue to follow the Halo model while dozens of MMO developers compete to create the next World of Warcraft, often times with sub-par results. Sometimes though, the stars will align and a title will improve on its predecessor. Uncharted took the Kill/Switch aiming system and ran with it while Splinter Cell: Conviction managed to recreate the intense stealth action found in the Metal Gear Series. In saying this, there is one title in particular staring Sony right in the face that could mean an immediate pay-day: Sony Smash Brothers.

[Cevapi88]

list could be better...mentioned sackboy twice and the "leader character" in infamous is Cole...pretty good idea...i dont think anyone would want to play as Rico from KZ...he annoyed the hell out of most of us...Radec on the other hand would be cool...teleporting and becoming invisible would be nice...and you could have Snake seeing as how nintendo had him in super smash bros.

how about some PS1/2 classics...Crash Bandicoot series, FF, kingdom hearts, wander from SotC, oddworld, (i know that Sony would have to pay in order to license some of these characters)

PLUS it would be awesome to kick Kratos' ass with Rayman lol

[stb]

It wouldn't and you simply fail.

But the idea is not bad...but just leave that to nintendo please.

[DJexs]

There was a smash bros type game for the psone cannot remember the name but I liked it.

[Redempteur]

eirgehz ?

a fighting game with some square mascots ? ( including could )

of that's the one you're thinking of it sucked

[blu_yu_away]

Main problem I see with the list is how many of these characters would play basically the same (for example Nathan Drake, Hale, Rico, Navy Seal, Gabe Logan) on top of some characters that really wouldn't make for good characters in a fighting game (Robbit, LocoRocos, Lammy, Yaggi, Mannequin).

[TenSteps]

...you also have to take into account that it's still possible to get a respectful amount of characters given what Sony already has and it's not really a necessity to have big name characters, you can look at MvC2 where they added lesser known characters like Marrow, Shuma-Gorath, and Amingo.

Sony has enough in it's catalog to get characters that wouldn't play the same (I could make a list myself but I'll only make one if someone asks).

Now my problem on the other hand is different my problem would be the fact that the idea of merging universe within Sony's IP's just seem too far off for me.

[Final_Rpg]

10 steps back, I want you to make a list. :)

[TenSteps]

Fine you want a list I'll give you one using only characters that are developed by Sony, owned, exclusive to PS or co developed by Sony and in the context of making them melee focused I might just edit a few a little.

1. Radec (Killzone 2)(kinda like how Cevapi88 mentioned)
2. Kratos (God of War 3)
3. Nariko (Heavenly Sword)
4. Cole (inFamous)
5. Wander (Shadow of the Colossus)
6. Ratchet (Ratchet and Clank)(I see it as him using his wrench more than guns)
7. Jak (Jak and Daxter)(I see him in his Dark Eco Jak mode)
8. Lenard (White Knight Chronicles)
9. Monica (Dark Cloud 2)
10. Vahn (Legend of Legaia)
11. Ellen (Folklore)
12. Keats (Folklore)
13. Songi (Legend of Legaia)
14. Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)(have him use chains as weapon since he can't use his ice cream truck)
15. Hades (God of War 3)(because he as a melee fighter would be much more awesome than the others)
16. Gaspard (Dark Cloud 2)
17. False King (Demon's Souls)
18. Alden (inFamous)(put him in a regular trash golem mode)
19. Yurt the Silent Chief (Demon's Souls)
20. Kessler (inFamous)
21. Griffon (Dark Cloud 2)
22. Erol (Jak and Daxter)
23. Dart (Legend of Dragoon)
24. Rau Utu (The Mark of Kri)
25. Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper)
26. Flying Fox (Heavenly Sword)
27. Dregias (White Knight Chronicles)
28. Agamo (War of the Monsters)
29. The Raven King/King Bohan (Heavenly Sword)
30. Avalon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)

That's a list of 30 and if Sony were to ever do this the amount of characters would most likely be a lot less to make it easier to balance so as you can see there are a lot of characters to choose from for Sony.

[Tachyon_Nova]

As opposed to Mario......

[poopsack]

Just showing something i did a while ago
this reminded me of it

They were 4 minutes in PhotoShop, so theyre not that good but yeah :)

(sorry for the dupe comment above but it got hidden)

[morkendo]

yeah, it would be cool to kick KRATOS azz with ratchet using the RYNO GUN!!!

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Sony isn't already developing one in secret right now?

[ABizzel1]

It would be hard to come up with an idea of how they can realistically fight one another. Nintendo has always had the safe child-like approach, but Sony has a full range of characters brutal killers and all.

I think the only way this could work is in an RPG similar to Kingdom Hearts which could easily include cameos from 3rd party exclusives like Snake, and Cloud, etc...

Speaking of which I have an idea for that which is why I recommended it, devs. contact me if you need a writer :)

[BulletToothtony]

dude you should've played killzone 1 before you played part 2... rico is awesome in part one.. his hate for the helghast was huge.. but he kicked ass.. to me all that he did in part 2 was great..

and when he killed the guy at the end i loved it.. Rico rocks man.. but only if you know his background

[sikbeta]

It's a Great Idea to make SB style Game, but Definitely It'll not in the same league, while the N game is Fun, the PS version will be a Pure Madness, this is SSBB:

http://www.vgblogger.com/wp...

Fun and all, now imagine the same kind of Game with this Characters:

http://i43.tinypic.com/vmr8...

Awesome!

[Steve_0]

With LittleBigPlanet 2, they don't have to. Someone else will make an original experience based on a similar concept no doubt, and when you're sick of it, rather than buy a different game, simply load a new free level.

[Bravo4]

Nah, this wouldn't work. The PlayStation's franchise players aren't balanced unlike Nintendo's. With the PlayStation brand, you have: superheroes, gods, sackboys, and your good ol' regular people.

Nathan Drake vs Cole McGrath? In an arena?
.....

I really do want a fighting game from Sony though.

[MazzingerZ]

Rico rocks!...you obviously haven't play the first Killzone.

[rexus12345]

wouldn't feel right with all the blood & gore associated with most of those characters.

[exnihilonihilfit]

Can anybody say... Little Big Smash Bros?

Don't know how it would work, but sony has been trying to recreate Nintendo classics under the Play, Create, Share header, so I think it's a possibility.

[EverydayGuy]

Time to make one in LBP 2!

[Godmars290]

If MM can really deliver, that's going to be a literal go to.

[Cevapi88]

wow didnt even think of that....if that is possible....ill be blown away

[Jrome]

*head explodes*

That would be too epic

[astar123456789]

ps3 does not need a smash bros. they have some of the best games on the market, to me this game was to be a filler for games because there games are weak. so you want smash bros. go get a wii if you want really games get a ps3 or the box.

[qface64]

uh what?

[stb]

Lol...what?

[Kerrby]

Agreed, no idea what he's trying to say.

[SCThor]

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[Simon_Brezhnev]

I've been waiting for a fighting game from Sony.

[Maldread]

You can say Sony has a similar game like Smash with Rag Doll Kung FU and that The Fight: Lights out are on the way. I`m not sure that The Fight will be that good though, so yeah, it would be cool if Sony made a great fighting game of their own

[ShiNe-Box-]

Smash Brothers isn't even that good.

Hopefully Sony focuses on bringing new titles as unique as Heavy Rain to their consumers in the near future.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It would be nice to get this out there. I'm sure the right team could make this a great game. However, Sony's never been one for whoring out its characters. From a business standpoint, this game is gold. I think this may be more of an ethical situation.

It would be nice to see this game though. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I want Santa Monica developing though. I'm not sure why. I just trust Stig and his team a lot since GOW3.

FINAL BOSS!!! KEN KUTARAGI!!!

[xabmol]

Rented SSBB a while ago, back when I still had my WaggleBox. That game was horrible! I played it till I unlocked Snake then promptly returned it. I hope Sony never makes a game as shallow and dull as Smash Bros.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Ken Kutaragi as Final BOSS!!!

[Unicron]

A shameless PSN ripoff of Smash Bros... including the king of the hill style play? Frankly, I'd love it for parties.

[Doc Sony]

meh, I'll just make my own in LBP2.

[kaveti6616]

I doubt it.

[Doc Sony]

Doubt and fear are common traits of Xbots and Wii-babies.

Forget about those toys and Play B3YOND.

[xaviertooth]

lol! pure ownage. better luck next time kaveti.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Doubts are for kids.

[Jrome]

REPENT in the name of SONY xD

Make.BELIEVE

[kaveti6616]

I'm not a fanboy. I just doubt that you yourself have the talent to design such a game. That's one of the drawbacks of Little Big Planet. It's a toolset that allows for a lot of creativity, but the majority of gamers themselves aren't going to do much with it. You're ignorant for that calling me a fanboy. You're such a low-life that your avatar merely reflects a common stance taken on this site. At least have some originality.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

No. Don't copy Super Smash Bros. Copy Power Stone. It's a much better brawler.

Edit: Thank you, sir. Bubbles.

Edit 2: And why no Heavy Rain characters? Lol. Naaaaawwwman Jayden could take Jak & Daxter.

Scott Shelby Vs. Rhino from Afrika
Needles Kane (Sweet Tooth) Vs. Kratos
Sir Daniel Fortesque Vs. Sly Cooper
Buzz Vs. A Chimera

Personally, I'd be sold by a Kevin Butler Vs. Jack Tretton fight. Anyone else?

[ShiNe-Box-]

Now there's a request u don't hear very often, and a smarter one at that.

[a_squirrel]

quote: "Personally, I'd be sold by a Kevin Butler Vs. Jack Tretton fight. Anyone else?"

This made my roflcopter go swa swa swa swa

Oh yeah, here's my list of wants:
a Super smash bros
Ragdoll kungfu 2
LBP 2
Battletoads, double dragon (or a new version wouldn't hurt :)

[unworthyBOZO]

Power stone now there a very smart man.

[Mr Exclusive]

Meh at least Sony and Nintendo have and own their own IP's to make a Smash Brothers type of game.

What does Microsoft have? Alan, Halo, Flight Simulator, Queer Bird and Bear? What a joke.

[Mr Exclusive]

I think they will call it Super Multiplatform Brothers.

[stb]

You made my night, poor bot, xbox has no games?... indeed

[a_squirrel]

yeah, the xbox 360 has games
but the ps3 has games too,

who cares? I have both systems :)

[dizzleK]

how do these blatant trolls have 3 bubbles when i haven't said s**t and i'm down to 2?

on topic, i don't want nor need a smash bros clone. it's not worth the pounding sony would take from the media trolls.

[Megaman42xX]

Sony has a lot of exclusives but they haven't developed a lot of games, neither does Microsoft. Only Nintendo goes so far as to personally develop games.

[Maldread]

Sony actually owns a lot of studios. If you by personally developed mean a game studio that has the name Sony in it, i can understand you a bit better.

[UnSelf]

thatll be crazy. maybe one of the stages can be on the back of Gaia

[Thudd]

Sony copies every other concept from everyone else. Why not Smash Brothers. Then they can claim they have been in development for 25 years and all the PS3 chumps will believe it.

[poopsack]

its not like these chumps have a thing called evidence amirite?

[eggbert]

Evidence means nothing to idiots.

:D

I don't really think they'll make a SSB-clone though, not really worth the effort. I still got my gamecube and n64 versions of SSB, and that's good enough for me.

[ChronoJoe]

For there target audience, to me. I know there are 'hardcore' Smash Bros players and all that but you've gotta accept that the largest appeal of that type of game is to kids.

I think unifying there IPs into any type of game would be a good idea, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a relatively badly designed brawler... we have Platformers and Racers which offer this type of thing already (MNR and LBP) and it seems Sony are trying to push there IPs into shooters (Uncharted, Lost Planet 2).

Something like Warhawk would have a lot more character if instead of Red Vs Blue it was good vs Evil playstation characters... not warhawk specifcially though as its core gameplay doesn't quite have mass appeal.

Maybe Uncharted 3 will feature a lot more... than it does now. It already has Resistance, KZ and Infamous's characters.

[RedPawn]

Smash is not a fighting game.

[kraze07]

So?

[RedPawn]

That's exactly the point, I think the Wii has a better audience for this. The adaptable and not so serious nature of the characters give it its fun nature.

I downloaded RagDollKungFu, and realised that's exatly what it was, so I deleted it.

I used to hate this franchise, but after seeing my friend destroy a bunch of Otaku, I found a soft spot in my hard for its addictiveness.

[Megaman42xX]

I'm pretty sure that everyone that plays the game would disagree. It may not be a tournament fighter but you can't argue that the game isn't a fighting game. What would you call it if not a fighter?

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

No need a Smash Bros when LBP 2 is coming.

[unknown100]

it will be sweet to see kratos going against nathan drake or a helgasht soldier against cole from infamous....or maybe a fatal four-way lol.

[kraze07]

I don't see why they shouldn't make one. These types of games not only sell well but they bring awareness to lesser known games that some of the characters would be from.

[AusWarrior]

I'd buy it if they made one, although they'd have to give ordinary game heroes (e.g. nathan hale or drake)some really special/unrealistic powers to keep the game fresh. But i attempt to do something like this in LBP2.

Hi ChronoJoe by the way!

[DKell]

How was Crash not on that dam list???!?!?

[xabmol]

They sold the IP to Universal years ago. That's why all the Crash games after CTR suck ass.

[amogrr]

I only recognize 6 or seven of those characters. And I'd only play as Ratchet/Kratos anyway.

[Thepro318]

i want SONY vs CAPCOM style game

[foxxy]

I just want my move and socom 4 want to own dualshock players.

[Ronster316]

Sony simply don't have enough "stars" that they actually own to merit a smash brothers type game.

Only Capcom, Sega & Nintendo have enough character power to make smash bros style games.

[Jack-Pyro]

Nintendo, has made it their business, nay, they built their entire EMPIRE on the backs of a few, extremely well known, diverse, and memorable characters.

While in recent times this has amounted to them milking classic franchises to death, its the fact that the characters are extremely well established that allows them to do this. It's also because of the fact that these character's are established (and diverse) that allows a crossover like SSB to even exist.

Sony, unfortunately dosn't have anything even remotely close....with the closest thing to icon's being Krato's and Snake. Both of which are fine characters. While it's an interesting concept, not enough people know who Nathan Drake, or Radec are to really allow such a thing.

The other problem being diversity. Nintendo's library encompasses an extremely colorful and different cast of characters ranging from a high jumping plumber, to a giant ape, to an electric mouse.

Most of Sony's characters are similar, With most being super warriors of some sort with guns (Nathan Drake, Radec, Snake), and the others being blade wielding badasses (Kratos, Nariko , ect) . Making such a crossover, seem relatively bland in comparison.

While Sony used to have characters that would've worked in such a game (Spyro the Dragon, Jak, Crash Bandicoot) all most ALL of their franchises are either long dead, or close to it.

.....Then again getting to have a Raiden V.S. Krato's fight would be just plain awesome =D.

[Galaxia]

Wouldn't this be a chance to make those characters well known then?

I mean there was a point when Mario was unknown to most. Yet the more games he appeared in, the more popular her got. I never knew Kirby existed until I played SSB1. This will surely bring popularity to many of Sony's smaller series too.

[Galaxia]

I love this idea. And I'm sure Sony has the money to buy back the rights to characters from their past IP's. Spyro and Crash are must haves. Imagine Albert Wesker VS Revolver Ocelot or Jill Valentine VS Lara Croft. XD

But what I would enjoy better, and what would get even more sales I think, is we have a Sony and Microsoft crossover game. Why would Kratos kill Ratchet? When Kratos can take on Marcus Fenix as revenge for stealing his acronym. :P Or Master Chief and a Helghast Soldier could fight to the death to claim FPS dominance.

Multiplatform characters should join in too like Captain Price and Gordan Freeman. Everyone should just team up and take Nintendo down. :D

The combined power of Sony, Microsoft and the best Multiplatforms all working together could surely be able to dethrone Nintendo's SSB.

[rakunado]

I saw rico mentioned in the list and I just pictured myself walking into a game store and saying "oh wow.. super sony smash bros that's so frigg'n awesome!" [picks up the case and looks at the list of characters on the back of the box, synopsis says: AND KILLZONE's RICO!].

I put the case back, walk out of the store and jump in front of a bus!

[unworthyBOZO]

Kratos vs Sweettooth that would be EPIC.

[midgard227]

smash is only good for like 2 hours then u get bored cuz lack of depth so then u go back to blazblue or ssf4.

sony doesnt need a smash game, now ff:dissidia on ps3 wud be awesome yes :) arent they making that???

[Zerodin]

They've stolen all of Nintendo's other ideas!

[Colonel-Killzone]

Why so much hate on Rico whether your like him or love him he is a very important character in the killzone franchise period. Trust me I would know I played all the games.

[thehitman]

Would be the only reason for me to own a wii. Sony made something like that Id buy it if they did it well with popular characters.

Drake
Hale
Kratos
Racthet & Clank
Cole
Sly
Jak
Bandicot
Nariko
Snake
Sackboy
Some1 from FF universe maybe Tidus?

With still lot of other characters from games they can use. Maybe Capcom will allow Dante etc.

[chisox100]

ive been saying this sh it for years. i'll buy LBP 2 when someone makes a good Sony Smash Bros

[Omar91]

the thing with this though is that the characters arent even interesting to play with... who wants to play as navy seal from socom? like someone posted above, leave that to nintendo. they have far more interesting characters to use that type of gameplay mechanics

[jalen247]

I think this is a good idea. Sony would get my $60. Sony has more characters to their disposal than Nintendo...eventhough the characters are not as famous as Nintendo characters.

[jalen247]

I actually think Sony should make a GOW fighting game. The first Zeus Battle from GOW III shows that GOW would make for a great fighting game.

[ijkabob]

There were levels like this in lbp and I'm sure they'll be better with LBP2s level editor.

[Cajun Chicken]

I really don't see this working, Sony tend to conveniently forget about game characters from past gens and as for Kratos interracting with Sackboy, going to be hard to happen due to the difference of ratings of the franchises the characters star in.

I am one for a Jak and Ratchet crossover though...do it!!!

[SlaughterMeister]

I want Solid Snake vs. Kratos vs. Nathan Drake vs. Crash Bandicoot!

[rob6021]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Rag-doll kung-fu, seems that game got swept under the rug. Although there's no Sony game characters in it, it's a lot like smash brothers.

[Cajun Chicken]

Dunno why people hate that game, it's pretty good.

[PSNTomaz]

I think the question should be what fighting format should a sony smash brothers be in ( like nintendo or other)? And should it be cartoony like rag doll kung/ssf4 foo or realistic like tekken?