Remedy: "Alan Wake has clearly been a critical success", Wants Alan Wake 2

TMC: Mikko Rautalahti and the team at Remedy studios are very happy with the reception Alan Wake has received. Mikko even adds that they'd have to be goddamn idiots to not be satisfied. The praise have been so positive that they will love to make a sequel to Alan Wake to top their first game if everything goes well.

[Carlton Banks]

Probably not as much of a critical success as it was supposed to be though, or at least hyped to be.

[blitz0623]

I'm sure they would have wanted a better reception, but hey, it's the first game of a new franchise and they already have something to build on. People will definitely be looking forward to the sequel which can really put the first game to shame. I could say the same for Uncharted, as the 2nd game clearly outdid the first game in probably every aspect of the game.

[Reibooi]

The Uncharted comparison isn't exactly good. Considering the first Uncharted was a MUCH bigger critical success then Alan Wake has been so far.

That said critical success isn't what matters. What they need to see is how well the game sells. Reviews could trash the game it doesn't matter if it sells millions. Money speaks after all.

I personally am looking forward to checking out the game. It's been awhile since I played a good suspense game.

[Official General]

Do not try and play down the success of the first Uncharted - it clearly was generally regarded as a critical success. Uncharted got mostly 9s in its reviews, apart from a handful of sites. I remember following Uncharted very closely and reading most of it's reviews, as it was the second game that I bought for my PS3 and it had really sparked my initial interest. Uncharted gained some commercial success a few months after its release, reaching a million copies, which is relatively good for a game that was a brand new IP at the time (2007). Uncharted 2 was much better of course, but that STILL does not detract from the fact that Uncharted was still an incredible, amazing and really enjoyable game. In fact, after playing the first Uncharted, I said to myself, "just how are Naughty Dog gonna top this?". From what I remember seeing on here, many fans of Uncharted were pretty sure that U1 was gonna be hard to improve upon - just shows you how well-executed the first game must have been.

Alan wake simply did not live up to the hype and it's expectations and people just gotta deal with it. It dont mean you cant buy it, play it and enjoy it because you can, reviews arent always the definitive judgment. A better game to compare this to is GTA 4. GTA 4 was hyped up so bad and it failed to fully meet it's expectations.

EDIT: @ Alpha Male - I was actually gonna give a lot of respect to your comment, until you had to go and mention "this place is infested with PS3 fanboys". What was that for man? Why could'nt you just make a comment without having a dig at the PS3 crowd? This topic is about Alan Wake and NOT PS3 fanboys ya heard? Everybody on here sees you as the biggest hypocrite when you keep blaring on with your denouncing fanboyism crusade. With these silly comments of yours like this, it's no wonder why on here many guys always disagree with you and do not take you seriously.

[Obama]

0.4???? Math failed lol.

[blitz0623]

You guys miss my point. I'm not downplaying Uncharted and saying it's in the same level as Alan Wake. All I'm saying is that both games did not FLOP, and that the sequel to Alan Wake may be better than the first game just like Uncharted 2.

[FlipMode]

Its 4 points not 0.4 points, why the hell did 5 people agree with him?

EDIT - Below - On Metacritic its counted from 0 - 100, so from 84 to 88 would be 4 not 0.4

[Troll-without-Bridge]

Actually from 84 to 88 is 0.4, seeing how we are dealing with score, 8.4 plus 0.4 = 8.8.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Well, for a game in development for over 5 years...

[FlipMode]

Difference is HR wasn't hyped like AW was.

[Biggest]

Yet somehow Heavy Rain has a higher total score. Go figure.

[Tinted Eyes]

Lol Heavy Rain didn't have close to the hype AW had, people knew HR could be hit or miss, but as Carlton showed AW has been hyped like crazy.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Two of those reviews were by people completely unwilling to accept the genre and Gamecritic was already torn apart by fanboys for its 6.5 rating of Alan Wake (Talk about QQ right?).

EDIT: Ahh, and this is of course from themindchannel.blogspot, N4PS3G's ticket to submitting articles.

[Inside_out]

Alan Amazing...look at the PS3 crowd falling over themselves...but, but, it's bad, I swear...listen to me...PS3 is da bestest console ever...if you start counting from the BOTTOM...lol...PS3 kids know more about AW than their own games....

Look at all the phantom hits....yep, be afraid kids...Check out the video review from Gamespot for a VISUAL peek at greatness...that guy ONLY gave it 8.5...lol...

Xbox 360...it only has the best games....

[FlipMode]

Hope it sells well, it can be like U2 and have an amazing sequel.

[topdawg122]

I doubt it could be as good as U2, that game is one of the best games of all time. It has to be better than the original. Most sequels this generation have succeeded their predecessor (Assassins Creed 2, Gears 2, Resistance 2)

[GAM3R7l]

Um, yeah.....ALL sequels succeed their predecessors. That's the DEFINITION of a sequel.

[BkaY]

honestly what uncharted 2 has to do with alan wake.. plz someone?

@topdawg

"I doubt it could be as good as U2, that game is one of the best games of all time. It has to be better than the original. Most sequels this generation have succeeded their predecessor (Assassins Creed 2, Gears 2, Resistance 2)"

aaahhh yes and no ... AC2 yes R2 yes Geow 2 nope.. i still love the first one...

peace...

[Morgue]

Like I've said before. I watched a full play through and while the graphics were nice the story was horrible and there was some parts that annoyed me. And yes I do know there is a difference between watching and playing a game but I would've said the same thing but I won't due to spoilers. If I do buy this it'll be used. 3/5

[Morgue]

Like I said. If I bought it I'd say the same exact thing. And what's wrong with 3/5? It is any different than 8/10 unless some of you fools can't count because the only difference is a 3 instead of and 8 or do you read IGN too much? Maybe I would've gave it 5/5 if there was multiplayer...............

Should I tell you how it ends? I would but I quit watching it after part 51 because the first 50 seemed all the all same. N4G is like a room full of ego maniacs, everyone is wrong and your the only one that's right.

[siyrobbo]

3/5 is equivalent to 6/10 not 8

ive actually played the game through 100% to completion, i would recommend playing it over watching it, as the gameplay mechanics are quite fun. the worse thing in my opinion about the game would be the story, which doesnt make much sense at all and can be quite difficult to follow

[BkaY]

i envy you mate... well what about the controls..?

peace

[siyrobbo]

i found the controls great, very intuitive. Imagine resident evil 5, but with the ability to actually move while shooting. The flashlight works really well.

They have built the foundations to what could be a great franchise. There is definitely room for improvement (some of the textures look ps1 level, like on signs and posters. For the most part this isnt a problem but during daytime scenes it can look a little rough.) I'm definitely looking forward to the DLC and potential sequels

[BkaY]

OMG controls like RE5 ....i have plat in RE5 lol...

you sir just made my excitement level shoot to the stars....

graphics dont bother me .... as long as its fun to play :)

what about the element of surprise and level of scare?.. i wouldnt be able to reply you coz of the last stupid bub... :(

cheers n bub +

peace

[Morgue]

My math is horrible. I will play it but the story was all over the place and there were some parts that looked awesome but I just wasn't as floored as maybe everyone else is. Considering how long it was in development at least it didn't bomb like Haze or Too Human so hats to Remedy for that.

[siyrobbo]

its pretty suspenseful, builds a good atmosphere to begin with. You kind of get used to it as you play it, there are a few places that may make you jump. I played it at night, that helps build the atmosphere even more

@morgue, i wouldnt recommend it based off of the story, personal preference tho, some seem to think its great. Im hoping that the DLC improves on the ending

[Digitaldude]

Yeah, has been a critical success strictly, but with the hype and the development time along with high expectations, not sure if its a success.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Math fail: It's 0.04 if we're talking in terms of percentage

[Rhythmattic]

Actually, if we're talking in terms of percentage, lets make it easy.

4 %

[bjornbear]

0.04 is decimal....not percentage

here's some help:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/c...

[Greywulf]

Alan Wake has taken 6 years to be created. Its an 3rd person adventure/mystery/combat system title. It has been hyped continually for 6 years as the AAA title from Remedy, because of Max Payne. Are you not remembering this? Checkout its Trailer with the narrator claiming how amazing of a game it is. Usually developers let the media decide this, not themselves. But yeah, its been going on this entire time. And you were all in the hype every single story.

Then you have Heavy Rain, which is a interactive movie. And you find a "LOL" in the fact that the gaming world has decided that an Interactive movie is rated higher than Remedy's best effort to make something on the Xbox360? Right, I'm lol`ing too, but not with you. At the sad concept that most of the people on this site can't just admit it when they were dead wrong about a game. AW was hyped beyond the moon. As was UC2, but you saw what delivered and what Didn't. Oh yeah GOW3 was hyped to all heaven as well. And again..

It was compared to Uncharted2, NOT UNCHARTED 1. No single story or site compared the two, Remember, you all thought the Cut-Scenes were in game? And thats what was used. UC raised the bar for game development & pipeline, which is why it didn't take 6 years to create. Alan Wake hasn't. As expected when Remedy couldn't run it in the Open World as the PC demo was. The graphics that were claimed by Remedy themselves to use the full power of the Xbox360, aren't HD.

1. AW was hyped to be AAA by everyone here.
2. AW was claimed to have better Visuals & Story than any PS3 AAA.

Im shocked by everyone trying to justify Alan Wakes failure to be a AAA title, with Heavy Rain. New Ip's sure, but not even the same type of games. Why not bring up Haze since its also not in the same genre?

[SixTwoTwo]

84 is still a good score.

[nveenio]

I think they should wait and see what sales say...

...not that 360 owners have many other choices. I think that gamers will be spending their money on RDR instead.

[4Sh0w]

"Remedy studios are very happy with the reception Alan Wake has received.
Mikko even adds that they'd have to be goddamn idiots to not be satisfied. The praise have been so positive that they will love to make a sequel to Alan Wake to top their first game if everything goes well."

The game has indeed been well recieved overall, but of course all the fanboys on n4g with a clear history of pro ps3 and anti 360 comments will naturaly downplay Alan Wake in every way, with the bar always changing depending on whichever favors their agenda. lol much like Democrats and Republicans

Here, I believe these are all the reviews so far but not every site is counted by metacritic, either way AW has recieved tons of great scores so I can understand Remedy being very happy to see their hard work receive well deserved praise:
http://forum.alanwake.com/s...

I'm betting Remedy are already taking all the positive and negative feedback in to make AW2 even more awesome. I feel like we have been truly spoiled this gen with so many great games to play.

[syanara]

IMO what happened was a supposed horror game succeded as an action game. just like splinter cell. a supposed stealth game succeded as an action game. in other words alan wake isnt scary and splinter cell inst stealthy.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

In Remedy's defense, the expectations where so high that I think disappointment was a certainty. The fact that a lot of the scores came back as well as it is, I think the game will be great.

I'm keeping my pre-order of the Limited Edition.

Just like Splinter Cell: Conviction where some hated the changes, but I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I already got 1000 achievements on it after spending a lot of time with the game. Both games got very similar scores if not Alan Wake seemingly a little better.

[kevnb]

I actually think it got the "we better review it highly" treatment. Reviews don't really indicate how good a game is.

[MNicholas]

when a developer has to come out and argue the point of whether it's game is a critical success.

The problem for Remedy was that Alan Wake was overhyped. The videos they showed at E3s past had an open-world, high res textures, draw-distance that wasn't just a prerendered backdrop, etc.... The xbox fanatics on various forums and blogs were going on about how this game would really show the 360's hidden "potential." (don't they do that about every exclusive? Forza 3, SCC, etc...)

The actual game fell considerably short of the original videos in just about every technical area. They've had access to the 360 dev-kit for 6 years yet the last minute decision to nix the sandbox and go with linearity resulted in a game that's considerably less impressive than it could have been.

This is what happens when you change your game design when the engine has already been built.

Alan Wake 2, if it's a similar type of game, will almost certainly be noticeably better looking. They will have redesigned the engine so that it doesn't waste memory loading areas that can't be visited. This, in turn, should free up some additional space and processing power for better textures and shaders.

If you're an Xbox fan, you should be looking forward to the sequel.

[DatNJDom81]

but it is a success. Can't deny a good game when it hits you in the face no matter what system its on.

[vhero]

It's far from a critical success its lived on its own hype. It should have been a great game and it didn't live up to its hype. It's unfortunate but 360 has a lot more great games coming out and won't need this to keep it going like most people think. The devs are clearly losing there marbles by thinking those perfect scores by fanboy sites really mean there game is a critical success.. It's an average game lets move on people...I think this is fanboys trying there best to prove something with this article.. Though what i'm not sure..

[avengers1978]

Success comes from sales. It does not matter if everyone rated a perfect or if everyone gives it a 0; It's all about sales.

[TheSadTruth]

This is the only site where you can read an article about a video game, and have the discussion be solely about how a particular PS3 game is better

Love it

[LordMarius]

At least they love their product

[NeoBasch]

They're confidence is contagious. Especially after the critical disaster that was FFXIII. That game is so much better than what the media made it out to be. **** reviews!

[RememberThe357]

I'm playing it right now and it's WAY better than the reviews said.

[kevnb]

I gotta say that ffxiii is much worse than the review said, its the first fantasy that I just cant play all the way through.

[RememberThe357]

Right now the game is sitting at 8.5 on N4G and that is damn good. It doesn't seem like a game for everyone so I can understand why some people wouldn't be too interested in it.

[Godmars290]

Reviews are second priority to game devs. Literally. They're in it to make money, with reviews helping that along.

And I haven't hard anything about how its selling. Certainly nothing about a "critical success."

[PandemicPrawn0]

^ I don't think it's out yet.

I hope Remedy find huge sucess with Alan Wake.

You just don't see enough good single player games out there.

[unknownhero1123]

it's been leaked by a few stores. there are walkthroughs on youtube.

[Arnon]

It releases May 18th.

[DavidMacDougall]

Red Dead for me! Alan can wait

[GarandShooter]

RDR and AW for me on the 18th, thank you very much.

[Droid Smasha]

how could it have "sales" if its not even out yet?

[GarandShooter]

Retailers already have orders in, likely based on the amount of pre-orders they have. AW should do fine in sales.

[Godmars290]

So, why am I reading an article about how its a "critical success?"

...

(Okay, glancing at the title.)

[Elven6]

Critical (root "critic") usually means review wise, commercial is sales.

[kaveti6616]

Damn, Godmars. I thought you would know the difference between critical success and commercial success.

[leeger]

FAIL! LOL

[Elven6]

The game isn't out yet, it comes out on the 18th in North America and the 14th in Europe.

I'm sure Alan Wake can sell 1 million copies, it has the potential to sell more given the reviews but it seems like Microsoft is really dropping the ball marketing wise. Even George Brossaurd of 3D Realms and Duke Nukem fame went on a Twitter rant a few days ago about how Microsoft could be doing better.

[GAM3R7l]

1.)Quick...name the last time you saw an ad....TV or otherwise....for a 3D Realms game.

2.)Quicker...name the last (and first) game that got a 6 episode, live-action, primetime worthy prequel...funded and produced by the publisher (MS).

Exactly. ;)

ANYONE who questions the marketing tactics of MICROSOFT...is a ****ing idiot.

[zorglub]

@gamer : MS marketing IS crappy considering they are one of the richest corp in the world. They can't even get past Sony and are far behind Nintendo.

Nearly everything MS failed except Windows and Office (Zune, Vista, Xbox 1...). MS success is definitely a myth. They just happen to have 2 cash cows (Office and Windows) which keep them afloat.

MS without Office / Windows = dead in a few years.

[A change in the wind]

Nice to see they`re satisfied.

[PeptoBismol]

more like easily satisfied.

an 85% (AA) on metacritic is nothing to brag about

[Persistantthug]

:(

[8thnightvolley]

and y cant hey be happy about it.. its a studio of freaking 40 ppl for crying out loud.. games with bigger studios have been floping all over the place.. lost planet2 and tekken to name a few.. 84 is a gaddamn great score and a well above average on any standard if they do sell 2mil 3 mil copies of that game its a hit which no one can dout ... and i am going to get it with Red dead when it comes out.. coz they sure did a might fine job for such a little studio.

[JeffGUNZ]

85% is excellent for a single player game. Some people loved the game and some people didn't feel it like they thought they would. If this game wasn't mentioned to being developed for 5 years, I think it would have scored a little higher. I will take an 85 any day of the week. Look at MAG and Heavy Rain, two awesome titles that didn't score AAA quality, but does that mean they are terrible games? Of course not, they are excellent, just like Alan Wake will be. Everyone assumes that any exclusive needs to be AAA quality or it's a flop or a bad game. It's not. Anything 80 or above is a game that is worth purchasing and has an great experience.

[Hotel_Moscow]

i say we change the dam organization of games theres no need for aaa like seriously are we trying to make people feel better it should go

above 90 A

above 80 B

above 70 C

above 60 D

0-59 F

[palaeomerus]

AAA has nothing to do with scores or critical reception. An AAA title is a big expensive game intended to sell a lot (whether it actually does or not).

Some AAA titles suck or even flop but the huge expenditure of developer and advertising resources STILL makes it a AAA product.

Sometimes a budget title is a huge hit that gets great scores from critics but it's not a AAA title because it had a miniscule budget and modest market expectations before it launched.

AAA is like a blockbuster in the movie business. It's about what the publisher anticipates the sales potential to be and how they spend resources to try and exapand that sales potential.

[kaveti6616]

I think an 84 on Metacritic is something to be happy about. I read their quotes and they are certainly not "bragging" about it. Alan Wake could have been a much worse game than it was. Remedy were forced to make huge cuts to the game to put it on 360, not just in terms of scale and visuals, but also in terms of gameplay mechanics.

The game would have been more like Red Dead Redemption, with free roam gameplay, had it not been drastically changed halfway through development. I'm surprised that the game isn't broken. Look at Lost Planet 2.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Great to hear they are feeling initial success. I know they were cracking jokes about selling hot dogs so good to see that won't be happening and we will probably see a sequel!

Hopefully good sales reward their efforts.

[likedamaster]

See your 15 disagrees? PS3 camp will hate you all the way to their gaming grave for comments like that. Exclusive games on the 360 are a threat to their very gaming existence and would like to see nothing more than total annihilation of anything associated with Xbox 360(I know, it's ridiculous). I bubbled you up, I'm sure it won't last though.

on topic/
Remedy clearly appreciates anything positive coming their way. As a gaming culture we need to encourage games like these by buying them to hopefully get a sequel and stop the saturation of the same games, over and over.

Btw, game looks absolutely stunning. A change of pace for me. 9 more days.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Wow yeah I dunno about the disagrees I bet if this site showed who agreed/disagreed it would cut that down. It really sucks that N4G is a place that want to see games fail. I also find it funny how when you look at the "featured" comments most of them are just trolls with lots of agrees. Whoever thought that would work on N4G is seriously delusional about the quality of comments vs the agree/disagree ratio.

On Topic: Still playing AW and still enjoying it. Also looking forward to RDR with all the talk about it I am going to have it give it a purchase sooner than later.

I trust in Remedy to know their game design so if they felt changing it to a more focused experience then I respect that. From what I played, if I was just wandering around in the darkness in an open world with a flashlight I need to keep putting batteries in that would suck! Most people complaining about the Open World being removed haven't even played it..

Thanks for the bubble..

[zorglub]

People don't care what GiantEnemyCrab says. He's getting disagrees only because he's a well known MS troll / fanboy.

[Jerk120]

Oh yeah? Why's Saaking getting so many agrees? He's a well known Sony troll / fanboy.

This site is BIASED.

I mean, seriously, how can you try to justify his disagrees? Outrageous. Regardless of whether he's a well known MS troll / fanboy, you're rating what he says not what he is.

''ppl dun care wat he says waah''

Then don't have the nerve to hit the Agree or Disagree button.

[Whoooop]

Nothing wrong about a dev happy for their game and the urge to make more for the fans.

I'm sure they expected more from the critical reception, but 85% is great considering how many great games this gen has brought.

[AutoCad]

I want to play this game so bad...

[knight626]

iam curretly playing the game and its good but dont get to excited it...iam loving the story but if u like to run in the dark for a long time then this game is for you. iam not trying to bash this game or nothing i agree with any reviewers who gave this game a score of 8 - 8.5 nothing higher

[AutoCad]

As long as the story is intriguing im all for getting it when i buy a 360.

[Wolf873]

Of course that's my opinion. However, I think it's at least worth a shot, if not a purchase, especially if you're a fan of horror and mystery genre.

[boysenberry]

LOL!

[Dnied]

but how is it "clear" to them that it's been a critical success?

I mean confidence in your own product is great and all but this sorta seems like blind love? It hasn't even been released yet and reviews that have been released so far couldn't have convinced them could they?

[ThaGeNeCySt]

The game is great in my opinion from what I've played so far. The graphics, atmosphere, and story do it for me. That old man in the diner though *ugh*. I think the game is great.. very suspenseful IMO. Definitely one of the better games to release this year.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

they should wait for the sales first....then talk i know it would be a good and awesome game...but not all gamers like this type of game.

[8thnightvolley]

true... but what they are talking about is the review from critics and that has been well accepted that that score, and a genre like the horror scare type are on the decline, games like silent hill didnt do so well, resident evil 5 abandoned it all together for a action genre, only dead space was the best in that genre in recent memory so this is a nice water to wet our taste in the "scary genre" ... and i am sure gamers will appriciate it

[Elven6]

Why can't they talk about how the game has been reviewed so far when most publications have already posted theirs?

[frankymv]

I think for a dev to come out and say this really smacks of insecurity. Alan Wake is certainly not a failure, however, its certainly not the blockbuster remedy/MS were making it out to be.

[jjesso1993]

I loved it the story was amazing its so good being multi console owner.

[0LDSCH00L]

8 perfect scores with over 40 at 9 or better, and only 7 reviews which are below 8 so far. So I ask--where's the flop?

[Arnon]

They're trying pretty hard, but unfortunately, they wont succeed. The official forums on Alan Wake has over 100 reviews coming to an average of around 87.7, with another 10 or so that give it editor's choice awards or praise it in general.

The game's nothing less than a success in the critic's eyes.

[blue7xx7]

I agree I don't see why people are saying it's a flop it's getting really great reviews.

Only like 2 or 3 people have given it lower than 7 but if you read their reviews they say it's a great game and to buy it but it just has some technical issues like lyp sincying is not that good apparently stuff like that nothing about the game itself being bad like gameplay and story.

I consider a game a flop critically if it only gets nothing but 5, 6, or 7 a recent example would be Lost Planet 2 but like you said it has gotten great reviews.

What has happened to these comments nothing but trolls. They need to bring back the open section zone so there won't be as many trolls in here. It's getting ridiculous.

[frankymv]

Metacritic of 84.

good game, not groundbreaking. I think people were expecting more considering the time it took to develop.

[cereal_killa]

Dont know where you're getting these scores from (most likely from your a$$) we all know how much metajoke is a pile of trash website but they only have 1 score of a 100 so far 17 sites gave it 90 or higher and 27 reviews below 90.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

I personaly can't stand this site (Metacritic) because they remove reviews that they dont like because it make certain games better than they are and keep certain reviews from multiplats to make one version look better then the other nothing but a flamebait site created by fanboys for fanboys.

"Only like 2 or 3 people have given it lower than 7 but if you read their reviews they say it's a great game and to buy it but it just has some technical issues"

Funny when you read the same comments for PS3 exclusive with the same scores most fanboys dont even read these part all they see is the score and consider it a flop I'm not calling this game a flop I gonna play it regardless of what critics say but I can understand if it's only 1 or 2 sites saying this game is below average and 90 of them say it's a masterpiece but when the majority of the reviews think the game is semi to below average you have to wonder what they see that the fanboys don't or don't want to see because it might bruise there egos.

[JTX]

Just because metacritic doesn't add them doesn't mean they don't exist. Those scores 0LDSCH00L mentioned are entirely accurate and surely did not come from his a$$. The link below shows ALL review scores not just the one's metacritic picks and chooses.

http://forum.alanwake.com/s...

[Cherchez La Ghost]

By what I've read of the article, they're saying a "critical success" of the review scores it has been given. So, of course Remedy feel pretty good about themselves for the good reviews the have recieved. If you created a product and recievd positive praise and support from the public, why not feel good about?!

Most of you need to grow up. It's about the games, not the consoles.

[iceman06]

Especially the comment about people needing to grow up!!!

[QuantumWake]

Look at this thread: http://forum.alanwake.com/s...

Alan Wake has received pretty good scores. Sure, some of you might always rely on Metacritic, but Remedy has seen the reviews from various web-sites and have been pretty impressed by it. But Alan Wake does have its flaws so hopefully Remedy has learned from them and improve in future projects.... 5 days for me till I get Alan Wake. And from the impressions I've been reading on the official forums by the users who have already played Alan Wake, they are really impressed.

Great job Remedy! Cheers!! :D

[bunfighterii]

when's AW out in Australia?

[gamer7804]

The problem with metacritic is a few substantially low scores that are obviously outliers on the fringe affect the score more than one on the average. Here is a good read for everyone if you frequently use metacritics end-all score. It's a classic case of the sum is not equal to its parts.

http://www.brainygamer.com/...

[DigitalAnalog]

In normal cases, developers would wait if sales are good enough to warrant a sequel.

(with a few exceptions of course)

-End statement

[CAPT_IRISH]

lets wait till it comes out first people

[littletad]

Let's wait and see. Journalist's vote with numbers and fans vote with their wallets. Obviously, we have the final say.

[littletad]

We've forgotten what it meant when a game was successful. Uncharted wasn't the second coming, and neither was Heavy Rain. Yet they were successful, and paved the way for a franchise and better sequels. Well, I'm sure there will be a Heavy Rain 2 anyhow. How is Remedy being positive a bad thing?

[Convas]

Everybody and their dog is trying to downplay Alan Wake. But it's cool. Anyone with common sense can see the ones who are criticizing AW have a bubble count that's less than choice. Which of course means that they have "opinions" which are also less than choice.

Keep it up though guys, you're true colors are showing. We'll be enjoying Alan Wake, you guys can continue trolling this site.

Thank God Open Zone is gone, else this would be outta hand. :P

RIP Das_Bastardion and Sir_Ken_Kutaragi, may these precious second accounts rest in pieces.

[mittwaffen]

Still fighting each other over a game people?

[prettyboy1]

sail wise i dont see aw doing that good on acount it was hyped as a aaa game and the reviews r not up to that state.but thats wut happens when u hype ur game to be the next best thing.im also talkin to u fanbois as well.u helped that hype wagon as well and now it then bit u all in the ass.personally im jus goin rent aw cus the length of it is not good enough for 60 bones.red dead on the other hand here i come

[foreverflame]

The gods at remedy have spoken another top notch high quality masterpiece makes its way to the messiah known as the 360,ps3 owners must be jealous that they will not experince this angelic blockbuster title next week,so Sad.

[mookins]

Yeah, we can't experience a flashlight game. Oh noes. :(

[foxxy]

Just play silent hill it's rated m it will scare you more then Alan wake teen rating turns me off.

[Figboy]

ANY developer, not just Remedy, scores in the 8+ range are considered rather successful, and they'd be RIGHT.

if you are going along a 10 point scale, 5 would be considered Average, 6; Slightly Above Average, 7; Above Average, 8; Good, 9; Very Good, 10; Excellent.

Alan Wake, so far, falls in the Good-Very Good category. how is that not a success.

sure, a few bonehead sites have given it lower than 8 (and 7 in some cases), but it seems rather hard to believe that the game is truly just an "Average," or "Slightly Above Average" game.

and besides, one of the sites gave Alone in the Dark: Inferno a 9.5/10. i think the general consensus is that game sucks ass (and i'm talking about it sucks due to poor game design, and failing at very basic game tenets, not subjective things like story/character; things that should be rock solid in EVERY game, like control, pacing, art design, etc).

Alan Wake is looking good. real good. i won't be able to buy it until later, unfortunately, but i'm not going to pass ultimate judgment on the title until i get my OWN HANDS on the title.

if Remedy is happy with how the game has been received thus far, that's great. it just means that a game with genuine potential may be able to get a sequel that improves on it in every way. i wish the same could be said for Heavenly Sword and Folklore, two games that also had wonderful potential, were solid, fun games, but were robbed of a second outing (which no doubt would have improved on a lot of the flaws of the first title) by a gaming media that feeds fanboyism, instead of journalistic integrity.

but hey, we'll get another Call of Duty this year. and next year. and the year after that. and the year after that. and the year after that...

[Inside_out]

lol...look at all the PS3 guys inflating the AW threads...AW is serious, very serious game...It has been a great critical success...None of that will matter if the game sells poorly...I think most people would agree that 1 million sales is a must, maybe 1.5 for AW...

Artsy Games like AW tend to sell less...no multi-player or co-op of any kind will not help in this day and age...still...M$ has used AW as a test bed for DLC....they are definitely breaking new ground with AW...There will be a AW 2 no matter what...M$ is looking at this as a investment for the future...will it work or will it fail remains to be seen...games not out until the 19th...

[Figboy]

I'M a PS3 guy.

in fact, i play my PS3 more than i play my 360. i prefer the PS3 over the 360 in every way, and yet i'm looking forward to Alan Wake.

don't generalize the PS3 community. sure, there are a handful of PS3 trolls on this site (just like there are a handful of 360 trolls) that make it seem like there are this legion of fanboys rampaging N4G, but in truth, most of the folks on here are relatively level headed, and can give credit where it's due to a good game.

i don't care about sales numbers, but what i do care about is a lot of gamer's tendencies to dismiss games that don't always fall 100% into a pre-defined classification of a game (ie, Heavy Rain), and trash it or hate on it because of that.

Alan Wake isn't looking like a typical shooter, and i imagine it will do well enough given it's actually looking really damn good, but i can't imagine it being on par with the Gears of Wars and Call of Duties (that is, 4.5 million units).

even with all that said, i still think it will do well for Remedy. the truth is, and this is what renders most sales talk pointless, is that only Remedy really knows their target goals. just because one company needs to sell 1 million to make a profit, not all of them do.

if that was the case, many of those games that release only in Japan and sell barely 200,000 units, yet still manage many sequels, wouldn't exist. most games BARELY reach 300,000, let alone the 4 and 5 million that blockbusters like Gears, Call of Duty and MGS reach.

the film industry is the same way. very few movies break the $60 million mark domestic, and yet there are the Avatar's, Iron Man's, and Transformers that clear $300 million like it's a hurdle, but that doesn't make the movies that don't break $60 million any less quality if they happen to genuinely be good movies.

[Denethor_II]

I don't think a strong story driven single player is right for the xbox360 platform when the majority are pleased to simply blow up shiiit. I know PS3 users are also fond of blowing things up, but they are also acceptant of diversity. A little market research will tell you this.

[hatchimatchi]

I was thinking alan wake was going to be the game that would make me buy a 360, I was extremely excited to play the game. I never let reviews sway me but when I found out that the game is just more or less a third person shooter I was extremely let down. I still wanna play it but I don't plan on getting a 360 anymore for it.

[mookins]

If it's a PS3 exclusive scoring in this manner, it would be a flop. But now it's Alan Wake, it's okay?

Double standards ftw.

Enjoy the flashlights.

[stuntman_mike]

it seems like developers are trying too hard to make reviews the best they can when they should be concentrating on the games buying public. you hear about if this game doesn't get high scores then it wont sell but that's not always true as long as it gets advertised well it will sell well.

[zorglub]

Not a bad game, but not what it was hyped to be either. Just easy to forget.

It's rated 84 meta, which is below the 85 frontier which separates average games from very good ones.

It brings nothing new, being a RE shooter mix... Not Zombies again...

[THC CELL]

it would of been better on the pc and not limited to xbox and 5 hours

[Condemnedman]

Yes they are ????? They are a bunch of cry babies . effing idiots

[booni3]

so critics like the game , but will i. THAT is the 60 dollar question.

[GeoramA]

I remember Alan Wake being hyped as a "Triple-A masterpiece"

Yeah, not the 360 savior everyone was saying it was.

[booni3]

so in words, only other peoples of opinions of a game factor in whether you'll purchase a game or not, and not your own? those reviewers arent paying THEIR 60 bucks. nuff said, fool.

[C_Dub]

I ordered the LE so hopefully this game will keep me entertained for a while. Also ordered RDR on PS3 so either way the 18th should be fun.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I wonder if its a case of NEED to make a sequel to make back the 5 years costs of development.

[saimcheeda]

generally an aggregate percentage of 86 would be a success but given the 5 years hype i think it was disappointing!

[El Nino]

dunno whether to pick this up or not yet

as for the constant disagree's MS fans get, what comes around goes around, n ya'll talking ish about the ps3 so ignorantly back in 07, well now who has "no games" as you frankly put it, even though there were games

this is the ps3 fanboys way of getting back at ya'll, were in 2010 and now i hear ms fans be like "good score, cant we just enjoy gaming" you wasnt spouting the same stuff back in 07 were you, ahh how times change

dont deny it

[Official General]

Why not try explaining all of these facts to Alpha Male22 ? I'm sure it would at least help him get some kinda understanding of what life was like back then for the PS3 crowd and why things are the way they are now on here. He seems to think this place has always been dominated by intimidating, agressive and bullying PS3 fanboys victimizing the helpless, feeble minority of 360 fanboys that are cowering a corner with great fear. And now he's officially appointed himself their hero/saviour/spokesperson/cour t attorney all in one, ready to defend their poor souls to fight and take on the evil might of N4G's all-powerful PS3 Mafia Organization.