Halo 3 vs Killzone 2

Guerilla Game's KILLZONE 2 vs. Bungie Game's HALO 3. 2 big upcoming FPS titles.

[Bill Gates]

No CONTEST!!!....hahahhahhahaHAHH AHAHHA

KZ scrubs the toilette with Hollow 3....HAHAHHHA

[PSTripleOG]

Halo 3 is a kids game!!!!!! Killzone 2 could be the most amazing shooter ever......

xbots = O W N E D.

[TheMART-sucksdick]

Been a huge fan of halo, in my opinion it is for a younger crowd, i will buy halo 3 just to see what the fuss is all about (i will play online)... But killzone 2 is a much more serious shooter, young and older gamers will play killzone. BUT however when it comes to graphics killzone 2 is the best console game i have seen, Halo has never been about graphics, its more about pure fun gameplay... Why should they change that?

[tehcellownu]

killzone all da way too

[Keyser]

I knew these types of posts were coming. This is not the last KZ2 vs H3 you will see.

Good times.

[rubarb23]

Like i've said before blowzone 2 has better graphics than halo 3. Can't debate that it just does.
but remember this a$$whipe, halo is a proven franchise. killzone......still trying to prove it's a decent game. look at the first killzone - sh!t, just read the reviews. halo, i think none of them has rec'd a score less than a 9/10. you idiots get all excited...at WHAT? the graphics? well FYI there's more to a game than that cum gobblers. So while you enjoy your wannabe killer app fluff video, the rest of world will be playing a real killer app in halo 3.

[The General]

This will not be the Last Killzone 2 vs. Halo comaprison. Just wait until the final version of Halo 3 is Released and how much laughs you get from watching the comparisons between Pre-pre alpha Killzone 2 and the Final Halo 3.

I already started on the article.

And how in the World will halo 3 receive the same high scores when Gears of War has already raised the bar higher? Forget Halo 3 vs. Killzone 2 Comparisons. It should be Halo 3 vs. Gears of War.

Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 are exclusive? Amazing. Must be the Hardware.

[Itachi]

killzone very impresive download it on the psn and wow on my LG 42" HDTV

[Lyberator]

Cod4 looks better than both IMO.

[pLaystation]

IMO Killzone2 and COD4 seem to be on par, but then again killzone is pre prealpha, so u know killzone2 is going to end up looking wayy better.

[Zhoutai]

Sorry the pic was supposed to say WAR but it cut it off =(

[sticky doja]

How does your comment get 2 disagrees? This site baffles me sometimes.

[EDF 2017]

Halo 3 looks better, PS3 fanboys got excited for no reason. Halo 3 has better lighting, better textures, better environments, and higher poly models, real time self shadowwing and lighting.

[Chris_GTR1]

your seriously the biggest ms fanboy ever.

[ps3FTW]

Xbot at his best.

[Kratosnake]

killzone bad, halo 3 is bett.. bet..... bett... better ...

system error... system error... rebooting.

hehe...

kidding guys, dont take my bubbles away

obviously killzone 2 looks better, but the styles are different, so i don't know. If you compare it to gears, it makes more sense. like the PC version.

[popup]

The end result may look good with Halo but that was a really crap trailer Bungie. I cringed.

Also talking about finer points like the textures on a 320x240 block of squares is just silly.

2 very different games. Who cares which one is best, Halo will sell big time and Killzone will sell PS3's - hooray.

[i Shank u]

the first thing i thought after seeing that trailer the other day; this trailer sucked. it all quick snippets that dont give as good a look at the game as killzones gameplay sequence does. halo trailer blew balls, grphx for both games look great when we see 2 gameplay movies next to each other, that will be better to judge on

[DiLeCtioN]

lol naaa hes not here. trust me this is nothing compared to dmart

[InMyOpinion]

Wait with the comparisons until both games are out. No one can be sure what any of the games will look or play like, no matter how much you want to be.

[FordGTGuy]

Killzone 2 doesn't even release till 2008 and after Halo 3 the series is over in 2007. BTW we have yet to see a clear HD video of what Halo 3 looks like. Podcasts like 1up have already confirmed that Halo 3 demo at E3 looks way better then the video shown in the press conference.

[Marriot VP]

TRUE DAT,

Pretty much everyone who played the demo says it looks better than the trailer.

[Captain Tuttle]

For dipping your toes into this nonsense.

[Azures]

1up were also the people who took part in the following dialogue with COD4 developers:

1up: Come on, hows the PS3 version look.
Dev: Fine.
1up: Fine...as in 30fps?
Dev: Umm anything less than 60fps is unacceptable.
1up: No fps problems? well how did you do it?
Developer: ...We...programed it.

They also claimed Gears still looked better than the gameplay demo of Killzone 2 at E3, c'mon now...lets not just say ridiculous things.

Truly a reliable and unbiased site.

[Premonition]

How many times ive heard that line, before. At the end of the day Halo 3 graphics wont stand up to what Killzone 2 is pushing and only at pre alpha, so you can say well you know what Bungie probably has like 50 more layers to put on by the time it releases, you can say all the things you want to make you think halo 3 will some how look as good as Killzone 2 when its released. Sure they both release at different times but look at it this way. Halo 3 is 3rd gen game vs Killzone 2 a 2nd gen game. This is the 3rd halo, you would think the graphics would be leaps and bounds better, inorder to justify why fans go so crazy for this game.

"Podcasts like 1up have already confirmed that Halo 3 demo at E3 looks way better then the video shown in the press conference." whatever makes you feel better.

[Lord Anubis]

killzone 2 looks better.

the difference its that Killzone 2 is pre-pre Alpha.

and Halo 3 is beta.

@fordGT
unless you are the game manager from Guerilla working on Killzone 2 I think I will believe Seb.

[FordGTGuy]

Pre-Pre Alpha I thought we've already gone over this.

[Shadow Flare]

Its the one before 'Pre-alpha'

[popup]

LOL Shadow.

[i Shank u]

is my precum's cum.

seriously

alright serious, how is an over 2 year old game that will be out in a year in pre-pre alpha? im not hating on killzone, just wonder how the f$*k that's possible, cause id expect pre-pre alpha to look like shadow puppets, not this good.

[The General]

Killzone 2 vs. Halo 3? lol, that cracks me up. They would have had a better chance with

Killzone 2 vs. Mass effect.

PS3 for the Win Baby.
Killzone 2 for the Kill!!!

No Competition here boys and girls, let's move on.

[QuackPot]

Halo is a proven AAA franchise. It is a shooter that has gotten everything right - Visuals, gameplay, Sound, MP, story. It's one of those rare games that is as close to perfection as you can get.

The original KZ should have never been compared to Halo. Although both are shooters they are a different type - Halo more stylized and archady whereas Killzone is more grittier & realistic.

It should have been compared to similar shooters such as Black, Ghost Recon, Battlefield etc.

Now we have Killzone 2 and again it shouldn't be compared to Halo. Halo should be a game for KZ to look up to interms of gameplay, vehilces/weapons and muliplayer but that's about it.

Killzone 2 should be compare to COD4, GeoW, Warhawk & Haze.

GG-Sony are gettig the graphics and physics right and hopefully the AI. Now, fingers crossed they will get the gameplay up to par with......Halo......so that the Killzone will become a repected AAA franchise. Damn, they better have a buggy or flying vehicle.

[INehalemEXI]

Unreal Tournament 3, Crysis, Timeshift, Haze, Turok. The FPS Genre gets an Overdose. Its crazy man. I know theres more too thats just off the top of my head.

[Elginer]

this song and dance before...it was E3 2004. How did that whole thing turn out?

[SmokeyMcBear]

well considering that both games arent even released yet, and you are on your 2nd? 3rd? 4th? 360 now.. you tell me how it turned out

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Only by cheerleader logic would you automatically assume everyone's 360 has bricked.

Droids will be talking about this forever, even though M$ has pretty much already done everthing possible to correct their mistake.

Did my PS2 get replaced? Both times it broke?

You already know the answer to that.

[Vip3r]

Killzone 2 will no doubt win seeing that the pre pre-alpha screens look better than the Halo 3's beta screens. Well that's my opinion anyway.

[Maddens Raiders]

I'm proud to have you on my PSN list mate. That video comaprison was great and the music starting at the screenshots is brilliant. Laughing at Ford GT guy calling this "lame" repeatedly. True, these games are not the same but are the Flagships of their respective consoles at this time.

Draw your conclusions about which looked better (KZ2?), but there is no doubt that this was a great video and both games look terrific. I must give KZII the edge simply because of the Rated "R" look of the trailer compared to the PG-13 look of the Halo 3 trailer; and yes the trees looked great in Halo. I just love the "man on man" violence aspect of KZII with modern day style weapons thrown in with accurate recoil signatures. Nice. Remember it's just my opinion. Later guys.

cheers

[CrazzyMan]

=)

[SlyDark Star]

This isn't even news it's an obvious fanboy attempt at starting a flame war

[Zhoutai]

In what way is this not news? Most people wanted a comparison so I simply found this on youtube and posted it. We all know this is opinion based anyways, as well as everything else. But when the RFOM vs GOW showed up did you call that flamewar and spam too?

[Greysturm]

anything that wasnt considered flame bait lets see this one rise beyond the temperature of the sun.

[sumfood4u]

Yes the picture is worth a 1'000 words. Both games stick out in their own unique way! & seriouly I just got a bubble 5 days ago, I've been saying nothing but positive stuff & someone took my bubble away again! Man N4G with bubbles sure has it's up's an downs! Hopefully I'll get a bubble or 2 again!

[Maddens Raiders]

there's a bubble vote for your positive attitude and intelligent remarks.

[The General]

+bubble from me to

I see somebody took your bubbles again...

thats why i say Ps3 fans should give Ps3 fans bubbles because anytime you say something pro ps3, Every and i mean every 360 fanboy gives you negative feedback.

So i encourage Ps3 and Nintendo fans to give each other + feedback. You deserve them.

[magicted]

Halo 3 is nice but Killzone 2 edges it out . Just by looking at the video it seems you will get the next generation game you will want in Killzone . Something about Halo 3 still looks last generation about it .

[fenderputty]

It's in your face. People react to where they're being shot. There's more polygon count in one body then in an entire Killozne one level. There is fully destructible environments. It's still on the ALPHA stage. I think it's funny any fanboy tries to knock it. Every media outlet has given the game mad props and said it looked better then anything else at E3. I guess you green fanboys just think your opinion is better then the critics.

[timmyp53]

jump in and play beyond

[AnDy FrOm MiAmi]

take cover i here delusional xbots coming! XD

[Bloodmask]

They make it look pretty but a polished game is the complete package.
The Halo franchise has already proven itelf to be a top contender in the FPS genre.

Good graphics, AI, mutiplayer. Online play and general overall fun.
Halo 2 is still one of the most played online games today...and I think that says a lot about its caliber.

Yes KZ2 looks amazing, but it still has a lot more to prove. The First KZ also had better graphics than Halo but failed in every other department.

You really can't compare the 2 yet, but as of now the Halo series series has a one up bc it has proven itself in all depts through its previous track record.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Halo franchise = 2 very proven titles, with HUGE fanbase. Actually fanbase is probably unrivaled. Also a MP Beta that was also a great sucess (in terms of gameplay, everyone was b1tching about graphics).

Killzone franchise- 1 previous title of mediocre caliber. May have been limited by PS2 hardware, but that doesn't change the fact that Guerilla is still an unproven developer, and we are yet to see if they can turn out a polished game.

So why does everyone assume it's going to dominate?

<EDIT> @ below: I'd say "proven" holds a lot of water. I mean, no one expects certain dev's to turn out golden games, simply because all they have turned out in the past is sh1t. I'm not saying KZ2 will be sh1t. I actually beleive it will be a solid AAA title(hoping for the sake of PS3 owners).

But you can't just assume that a dev that turned out mediocre games in the past, will automatically turn out a stellar game, just because everyone on Sony's side is hyping it up.

[lVlemphizStylez]

You guys like to throw around that term "Proven"...But honestly seem like the lot of you are hypocrites...Because the COMPANY SONY is a PROVEN VIDEO GAME COMPANY. But fanboys had NO PROBLEM crucifying them for not living up to expectations this Generation. And it showed in their sales..They tried to ride that "Proven" BS like you are defending for Halo. And they messed up. If Halo 3 doesn't bring anything memorable or new to the game this time around. I promise you Halo 4 wont have half this hype..Because put your fanboyism aside.. Halo 2 fell short of Halo 1, and you know it...

[Valik21]

Killzone had not better graphics than Halo or Halo 2, are you crazy, we all know that the xbox was more powerfull than a ps2, and what do you say now about the story of the BD player, that the ps3 can't do amazing graphics because it is supoused to be a BD player and not a game console, do you remeber?, for me and many others the pre alpha of Killzone 2 blows out graphically everything that 360 has now, even if i don't like fps.

[hotshot1237]

there both gonna b excellent but killzone 2 definetely is gonna have it. people complainin about the gameplay now. the gameplay already looks sick. halo is comin in 2 months, killzone is comin in 8 months, so u decide whos gonna have the most comin out of it. people think that killzone company is gonna slack on gameplay is in denial. halo3 looks lke halo 2 wiht slightly better graphics too me. and half halo fans dont even know the story. all they talk about is WERE HALO MASTERS. LOL

[WHEELEDWARRIOR]

Ok, first of all - two different freakin' games.

Both look good.

Both have a lot of interesting facets.

HOWEVER -

KZ has never had a real great following and hasn't had the best gameplay ever seen. Sure, the paradigm might shift, but I want to see some real information - this comparison does jack for me.

Honestly, given the past failures that have been KZ, why is anyone even excited? I own a PS3 and I'm more excited for Lair...

[Zhoutai]

you think other ppl are on crack but your making fun of probally the Game of the Year for 2008. Yes we are excited for Kill zone 2, you must be blind or something not be excited after that trailer.

[nice_cuppa]

we can do this again.

i think kz2 looks good but drops a good deal once the guy actually starts to play it.

halo 3 is cut too fast to give a fair assessment.

oh and in stills halo 3 looks better.

i await a real gameplay halo 3 video.

with all the fanboys talking bart i don't think it will be long.

[natsfan7]

You are correct sir

[nurayi]

I dont think they can give you anything more "real gameplay" than well...real gameplay. if your expecting a huge leap before September I am sorry just dont get your hopes up.

[tudors]

they both look amazing.

It's good to be a gamer.

[fopums]

the flamefest meduim of the next generation! recipe two different games different console's, run trailers one after the other too the tune of my chemical romance of death metal and then watch the commenters tear each other a new one!

Halo 3 looks good there is no denying it, and will probably be a good solid finish, but will it be the best? personaly I think the package Halo:CE provided was the best so far.

there was just somthing about it, the campaign story was spectacular and the multiplayer was grand, Ive had many a halo party :D

I wasnt all that sold on Halo 2, sure there was more of everything, but some of the weapon tweeks left the multiplayer easy to take advantage of. I will have to wait to give my verdict on Halo 3

and Killzone looks very good, I like the positive buzz its getting and it should turn out to be a great game. hopefully the multiplayer turns out well too. Im hopeing they get at least 32 player size matchs, I love big matchs :)

[boi]

no no no!

jeez they on different systems

and KZ 2 is out next year...Halo 3 out this cant not compare plus u play what u feel like but don't do articles like that its just silly

[funkysolo]

when the brute kicks the spartan it looks like halo2 animation. They do say the halo single player look better but not by much.

[cdzie1]

That was the vaunted Killzone 2 everyone is talking about? I'm not impressed. It looked washed out and dark to me. Actually, Resistance looks better to me. Maybe the video is bad or something, I'm sure it will look better when it's done.

Halo 3 looked more colorful, but some people don't like that look eaither.

Bottom line, they'll both be great I'm sure...

[fenderputty]

is common in a war simulation.

[Tsukasah]

Youtube compression sucks holy ass when doing these comparison videos :( KZ2 looks alot better on the PSN, but it is in prepre alpha and it does need to get brightened up a little bit atleast, but the cover scheme sounds fun to me, but we wont have a truly great comparison until both games are out

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Halo isn't claiming to be a "war" simulation. You better not be saying that KZ2 is a war simulation. No simulation comes close to actual combat. I mean, how is the PS3 supposed to simulate an explosion with no rumble?! Lol. Just kiddin.

But they are both fictional works with two completely different art styles. So stop comparing them.

I'll admit that Killzone is trying hard to replicate firing weapons. I like seeing that. Animations with characters carrying weighty weapons, with massive recoil. Thats what real guns do folks!

But hey, everyone loves Halo because the master cheif is an amazing peice of machinery that can do 134 things at once while firing a sniper rifle 100% accuratley into people's heads while jumping off the roof of a building....thats why people love Halo.

[crippler666]

Graphics are important now, I know they aren't everything, but we would only ever need 1 console in out lifetime if graphics didn't matter. They are mattering more with draw distances and detail never seen before.

I think that Guerilla will watch every little part of Halo 3 multi-player / single player and improve on it. Killzone 2 is around 8 months away and already shows much promise. Halo 3 will be king of the hill this year, but unless something real special comes along I think it will ba handing its crown over next year.

[Optimus Prime]

guess we will see when both games are out..
holy crap, sony fanboys talk alot of crap about a game that has barely been shown, and the first installment got its a$$ kicked by halo 2.
but i guess we will see what one is better when they are both out.

[sony4life]

both games look great but i think whoever said halo is over after this year is full of it. that is M$ cash cow so if you think that is the last game you are dumb.

[Sven Benoit]

hear we go again another comparison for the fanboys to get their panties wet with....all of u fanboys are gay(especially bill gates....he must be on SONYS payroll)...GET A LIFE PLEASE!!... but anyway.... yes graphically killzone looks better....but again graphics do not make a game...go check up on why the wii is selling like hotcakes....but i think we should compare GAMEplay..... halo 2 wasnt played multi-billion times for no reason...

[chrischris]

Killzone come out 2008, killzone look better, it will look alot better when it come out, we dont even no about the multiplayer, Sony For life

[boi]

well but i am more looking forward to KZ 2 myself lol

[tplarkin7]

Why attempt a AAA title with a franchise that didn't take off? KZ1 didn't do well enough to justify the investment in KZ2. KZ is not a Halo killer and never will be. This comparison is pointless.

[flipsniper]

i think halo 3 is going to rock because in the announcements trailers was real footage but in killzone 2 the lied and it was all CG so i think halo 3 is all real and killzone 2 is just crap and a waste of space

HALO 3 FTW KILLZONE Suck ba@!# :D

[Zhoutai]

All I did was make an article, good grief. Don't take away my bubbles, if you honestly think its flame then talk to the Admins of this site, dont go takin my bubbles ....

[chrischris]

and sony have Medal Gear Soild, 360 have nothing for that

[Bloodmask]

they do. It's called Splinter Cell: Conviction....Will you be playing that on PS3?

[PS360PCROCKS]

What a pathetic comparison, Halo looks the way it does by personal preference by Bungie. Stop acting like the 360 couldn't do it...COD4 looks stunning, probably the best game I have ever seen, if you haven't seen the video with the two guys wearing camo, go watch, it's ridiculous. If Bungie wanted to develop Halo to look like Killzone, don't you think they would? Everyone compares these titles and it's really lame. Bungie likes their look, Killzone likes it's more realistic look, THEIR IS NO COMPARISON!

[tplarkin7]

Halo 3 looks amazing and it is a bright-colored FPS. KZ is a brown and dark-colored FPS. If you want to compare "realistic" graphics, use Gears of War.

[natsfan7]

I agree, 100%!! Yeah got a bright colorful orange, and a dark brown apple....you cant compare them cause theyre different. People are confusing artistic style for graphics.....they both look very good.

[WHEELEDWARRIOR]

"you think other ppl are on crack but your making fun of probably the Game of the Year for 2008. Yes we are excited for Kill zone 2, you must be blind or something not be excited after that trailer."

First of all, I'd say something freaking nasty about what you said, but I like your avatar and so I need to be kind.

Suffice to say, GOTY 2008? Let's not get hasty. Yes, it looks good - in fact, it looks amazing, but KZ has a definite track record and it's not exactly promising. I'm not necessarily NOT excited for it, but I'm still holding out to see what comes of it. After all, this is just video... I want hands on of the final release before I pass judgment.

[tudors]

Sony for life, thats a bit deep, and weird.

Xbox-360 for life lol

[BaMYouRDeaD]

Although KZ2 clearly looks better, both are different types of shooters. KZ2 is the dark, eerie, feeling, where Halo 3 has a more colorful, look. All this video was, were the two trailers playing right after each other. I'd like to see a side by side comparison, though, of both finished products.

Both will no doubt be amazing games that will sell well. Anyway, I'm getting both the day they come out.

[7ero H3LL]

These games launch at different points in time. And to compare games like that ain't right. By the way, pre-alpha means it hasn't even left your head yet, so...that's stupid. And alpha means it's in pre-rendered form (much like a tech demo) so that ain't right either. Their BOTH in Beta, just one's further down the pipe than the other. And personally, I don't play betas. I'll be playing REAL games until these come out, so don't bug me with all this "pre-alpha vs beta" crap. It's just a waste of time for serious gamers out there.

[The BS Police]

But I am not gonna deny that Halo 1, 2 and 3 play better than Killzone 1.

[EDF 2017]

Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Call of Duty 4 look better than both of these games. But, the screenshot from Halo 3single player campaign look better than Killzone 2 screenshots from single player campaign. Better lightin, and higher rez textures in halo 3.

[fopums]

Killzone has a pretty good track record, what guerilla wanted to achive simply could not be done on the PS2, the first killzone played alright, but later on in levels, glitches and framerate issues become more noticible the advanced AI was either buggy or non aparent and enemies would stand out in the open shoot try to run to cover and just stop, but the awesome soundtrack and art design could have lead to a stellar title, but it just wasnt possible. so with PS3's great hardware KZ2 should play much better considering it already looks fantastic.

and killzone: liberation recieved largely positive reviews :)

edit: typed some stuff twice, edited to read better

[Salvadore]

I prefer Halo 3 over Killzone 2, but I will wait till I get my hands on both games.

[chrischris]

1 level in Killzone2 take up 2GB, that game have to on blueray because lair(which great too) takes up 25gb

[nomad117]

do you guys think that the first game wasn't that great this already declare's the fate of the second i mean jesus christ the first jak and daxter in my eyes sucked balls but the second one was so freaking great just because the first one sucked deosn't mean the second will at that's what im trying to say

[7ero H3LL]

KillZone was a flop, and it's been risen to such a high status so as to compete with something out there that has PROVEN its status as a gaming phenomenon. For a person like me, who takes into consideration the immense pressures that devs have to with, I think we should ALL give our support (as gamers) to the little underdogs who try to make SOME form of entry into the gaming world. I don't own a PS3 but I don't hate.

[kingjkv]

Well ign.com just recieved news from Phil Harrison that the Halo franchise will be coming to the ps3 next winter.

[Tsukasah]

Im sure news THAT big of course would reach N4G by now, but it would be funny that the 360s killer app would suddenly appear to go to PS3.. and ive heard rumors that gears of war 2 or something would go to PS3, but not very likely, only because the company that made it supports blu ray =X but if both games were to go to the PS3, i think microsoft would be out of the gaming market, big time, unless they make a real killer app on their own :(

[WHEELEDWARRIOR]

Checking Gamerankings did show that Liberation did fairly well. I think I was relying more on Gamefaqs buzz than anything else. Thanks for pointing that out fopums...

Suffice to say, if KZ can do what they want it to do and what the wanted the original to do, I'd be very happy to play it. Truth be told, I'll end up getting both anyway, so it almost doesn't matter. I think both will succeed and both be good games, but for right now, I'm not placing bets...

[iceice123]

Where is the lighting effects, particle effects, massive environments? Think again before you speak droids, halo offers so much more than Killzone 2 will ever touch.

[7ero H3LL]

FF practically LIVES off its fame. so does DMC, RE, SF, Tekken, Ridge, and everything else out there. Franchises are investments anyway, so they just look at as a quick hit to keep the dollars coming. You CAN'T deny a franchises beginings. What is proven is ALWAYS what remains.

[chrischris]

ps3 have call of duty4 too and killzone2 is pre-pre alpha halo does look great but killzone look and dont for get ps3 still have 8 days and the getaway and god of war 3

[ApocalypseShadow]

and those in the know KNOW that i like sony a whole lot more because of japanese style games.

but when it come to scifi(and i like scifi),bungie and guerilla made different design choices. halo3 is more colorful like star trek.

the other is gritty and dark like war is.for those who were in the military like me,you know conflict is not CLEAN.killzone is like battlestar galactica.morbid and fits the scene.

as to which to buy,i have a ps3.so obviously i will pick up killzone.no offense to the halo fans,but i wasn't impressed with halo2's story.multiplayer with friends was the only fun i had with the game.i sold it after only getting as far as playing as the enemy.that was just as bad as playing as raiden instead of snake in MGS2.

but to each his own.i still hate the 360 hardware.but i can't knock a good looking game when i see one.both look great.

[Rhezin]

yah K2 might offer cool graphics, but how does it play>? what weapons waht vehicles, variation in enemy, YOU DON'T KNOW SH!T sony F!ckdriods. At least we'll be playing our hit titles within weeks and ahhh you have to wait till next year. F!ck sony and F!ck K2 because it'll have the icing, but it won't have the cake.

[fenderputty]

Some really cool titles start to come out here withing the next month or so. BTW ... how long have you waited for Halo 3? Give it a rest.

[7ero H3LL]

pre alpha means it hasn't left your head
alpha means it's a tech demo
beta means they're bending to consumer demand to drop everything for a playable tidbit of gaming code NOW!

[Bordel_1900]

Halo is more of a game for a younger audience, hance the vivid bright colours.

Killzone has a much darker dirtier look that I really like.

Halo is Rainbow Islands, while Killzone is Fight Club.

Both great.

[MoonDust]

and a grey game is a adults game? Lmao. That's real funny. I'll take colors any time of the day.

[7ero H3LL]

STOP WITH THE PRE-ALPHA!

[Close_Second]

...I own 2 PS2's (one for each of my Sons) and an Xbox 360. I joined this site about 2 months after buying the 360.

I am considering getting a PS3 primarily because its the cheapest Blu-Ray player you can get in New Zealand at this time. However, the pure hatred and spiteful comments that come from Sony fanboys is quite off putting. Although 360 fanboys aren't exempt either, I have to say that I am truly put off buying a PS3 as to me it would say that I support the verbal terrorism thats going on in here.

Why does everyone plead such insane levels of loyalty to a MS or Sony of this world. Do you think Sony or MS will be there to hold you're hand in the event of a disaster...ummm, no. Do you think Sony or MS will be there to help you pay for a life saving operation...umm, no again I think. To me Sony and MS are nothing more than pimps. As long as you have the money they will provide you with what you need.

I wish everyone would simply stop bleating fanboy nonsense and go back to having the fun that real gamers once did and still have. If you have something constructive to say then by all means share it however, if you don't then well, don't.

[Bordel_1900]

For people who support Sony these are great days. The PS3 games are really starting to shine and there are many many great games coming out.

I guess after all the sh!t that PS3 owners have had to take from many XBox supporters the last 8 months, it's now nice to see that the PS3 is coming through and getting lot's of awsome exclusives. I guess it's some kind of payback time now that the PS3 is enjoying such good days.

This will die out eventually. when all the games for the PS3 and X360 start to hit the stores, people will start playing games again instead of spamming message boards.

[00]

and it should not matter what a game looks like, the only thing that matters is if there fun.

[GrumpyOla]

Will there be a Halo 3 Demo on xbox Live prior to it's release on September 25th?

[TheXgamerLive]

Not only in graphics but in gameplay in every way shape and form, and as far as online play goes, well we ALL know that goes to HALO 3, that's a given. Video playback of your games, DAMN!!!!!!!!

Edit: below, the Xbox 360 is the first and ONLY console to do it.

[lVlemphizStylez]

you are aware counter strike 1.6 (older than your xbox) was doing this before Halo right?? Its not a new concept...not in the least bit...I like how if MS institutes something in their game or Live service it becomes Awesome and New even if its years older than even their first console and was being offered at no charge...Thats like repackaging Koolaid, raising the price and hyping it because of its new container...

[incubus5187]

What's funny is that halo was on mac pc and xbox and bungie was free from just being on one machine... then M$ had to go and buy bungie and basically screw everyone.... that's why every installment after will never be like the first i'm sorry... so seriously supporting a company that is just plain greedy is not the way to go...

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Steel-battalion line of contact had the best game replay with file sharing. The halo 3 replay system looks copied from steel battalion. It works just as good too.

[chitown]

Both games r gonna be fu(kin awesome im gonna pick both up from day one.

ps: too many fanboys up there both games r awesome so leave it at that

[Bebedora]

I have a gripe with that. What seems extreamly hard to do is good facials in any game I have played and seen demoed. KZ2 does it good, not more than so. FF XII did it also good. Almost more believeable. But here in HALO 3 - a polygoned helmet. Yeah, put in a monster without one maybe? Well, that monsters facials is not comprehendable for anyone unless it's an orch or a banshee (Fellowship of the ring thrillogy).

I think a Halo 3 is easier to make because of the ordinary elements in a, lets say UT2004 game. Like this SEEMS to be after looking at this demo. Where was the horde of action in it, for once?

I like the feel of what I saw of H3 but I am not mighty impressed either. KZ2 did more than the usual FPS thing. Blood and wounds and reaction from hurted helgast and whatnot. Explosions and smoke all over the place. I liked that dark hopeless desperate world it described - because it was well done.

[akaFullMetal]

i think killzone has it, but then again we cant give a real comparison til both are out, since killzone 2 is in pre alpha, and halo still has a month or two so i guess it could look better, so we just have to wait

[pwnsause]

Killzone 2 reminds me of saving privite ryan. half of the people here can tell you the same thing. look at the textures. look at how realistic the blood looks. look at how the NPCs react when they get shot. its what war should look like.
War is hell, and guerilla went on point with that enviornment to look like were at war. and they're going to get way more viseral by the time we get to beta.
Killzone 2 is going to do what Call of duty one did, reinvent the War FPS as if you where there. its going to feel way hectic when both sides (ISA and Helghast) are blowing each other out to bits in a changing wheather/structure enviornemt

[Figboy]

to me, Killzone looks better.

i don't like Halo, but hot damn do they have an *EXCELLENT composer to the series.

the soundtrack to Halo has always been *AMAZING, and in the upper echelon of gaming soundtracks (along with games like Chrono Trigger, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Shadow of the Colossus, etc).

the Halo 3 trailer is weak, but the music certainly sets the mood, and should get Halo fans pumped.

Bungie needs to do a better trailer. this one strikes me as something put together rather quickly for E3.

Killzone 2 is a totally different game than Halo 3, and the art design is completely different, but i do think it looks better, especially in the latter part of the trailer, where we actually get to see some of the running and gunning shooting.

there are too many haters on this site.

both games will probably deliver a quality shooter for their respective consoles.

smart gamers should own a PS3 *AND a 360, that way you get *ALL of the great games both consoles have to offer.

i don't own a 360 yet, but i'll pick one up soon enough (at least by years end, we'll see how much dough i have left after the wallet raping that is this fall and winter season).

*edit - i also have to comment that Killzone 1 was a better game than most people give it credit for, just hampered by the hardware. the atmosphere, story, and art design were always there and top notch. but their ambitions were too much for the PS2 to handle.

also, Killzone: Liberation on the PSP was a very good game, and took advantage of the hardware the PSP offered. i think Guerilla Games learned from their mistakes and adapted.

don't judge a sequel by it's predecessor. for example:

Devil May Cry 1 rocked. Devil May Cry 2 sucked. Devil May Cry 3 rocked.
Metal Gear Solid rocked. Metal Gear Solid 2 was critically panned (though i still think it's a great game. i mean, Kojima's worst is still better than most developers *BEST. but i digress). Metal Gear Solid 3 rocked.

Killzone 1: hampered by hardware
Killzone: Liberation: very good game
Killzone 2: yet to be seen, but looking promising.

just because a game looks good doesn't mean it's not going to have good gameplay.

i mean, honestly, some of the best games of all time had ground-breaking graphics for it's day:

Super Mario Bros 1-3, Super Mario World, and Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, etc
Castlevania 1-Symphony of the Night
Resident Evil 4
Shadow of the Colossus
Halo
Metal Gear Solid 1-3
Half Life 1-2, and beyond
Oblivion
God of War 1-2
Final Fantasy 1-eleventy billion, i mean 12

all great games, all with amazing visuals.

graphics and gameplay are *NOT mutually exclusive.

there are very few games out there that really touted amazing graphics, only to have sh*tty gameplay (The Bouncer springs to mind).

this mentality that if a game *LOOKS good, it must not *PLAY good is stupid.

Guerrila has shown that they have excellent talent and potential. and now they're going to shine.

remember when Sony Santa Monica was a no name developer with a few solid titles under their belt (ie, War of the Monsters...holy crap, a PS3 War of the Monsters title would *ROCK so hard. but i digress again), then they hit with God of War, and now the studio is one of Sony's top tier developers.

one title can make all the difference, especially if you know that the talent is there.

[pwnsause]

I agree.

[Tsukasah]

Anyways, bubbles for you :)

[shysun]

KZ2 looks better. Halo3 will be fun and all but it wont look better than KZ2!;)

[jay3]

Meh, i'm gettin' both!

I don't know why i want to get Killzone 2...It's like, I'm a fly, and Killzone 2 is one of those blue zapper things.

It's just too purty!

Hell yeah i'll still get Halo though. Say what you will but there's no denying it's a brilliant game. I've always said I never thought Halo was supposed to be special with visuals, now that they're beefed up a bit it's just i little bonus

[jay3]

Double post. Sorry guys

[Daxx]

These are video games you guys know, not politics. I hate it when people take this stuff way too seriously.

[Bebedora]

* invested $50,000 in a virtual house
* payed how many dollars for a character in WoW
* a Sony/X - bot

get the drift? It's not so black and white. It's all grey.

[Hooby]

that it's hard to compare them. Take a single halo 3 model with a single killzone model of a charecter and I bet the Halo model has better deeper textures and so on. On the grand scale the halo model isn't as realistic looking but for the game that it's in it looks absolultey batter than any killzone models. Also consider Halo 3's areas are way more wide open and you can see way way further than what I've seen in killzone. I give killzone tons of respect for its amazing lifelike graphics, but it's style is so different compared to halo 3's semi-cartoony look, things aren't as wide open and distanced. I would love the peter jackson halo gam eproject to be related to an ultra-realistic version of halo, which would be awesome, then we could definitley make some graphical comparisons. Until then we'll be content to be different. I like super realistic things like killzone as well, but I still love halo with its bright vibrant colors that so many realistic games are lacking. Look outside, I live next to some woods and its super bright, I can compare that more to halo.

And why do people make judgments of entire games based on graphics.."Killzone will kik halos azzz!!!" it a friggin retarded comment given that the fun of a game depends mostly on playing it rather than looking at it. Saying something lik "halo looks fun and all but killzone has way better graphics!" what do you mean by "and all"? having fun playing a game is so much more important than graphics and you treat it like it doesn't matter...

If you want something that only looks good, go watch a movie. Wait till we play both of them to make such judgments.

[Bebedora]

I agree. It's more allureing with H3, but you can get that from just about any UT2K serie out there. It's breathtaking and great. But the gameplay has no physics worth mentioning (when talking UT2K). Fun? He!! yea!

Still not that unique. KZ2 has the hype for sure. KZ2 mostly though, because of it, delivered more than anticipated. Therefore it's even easier to praise it as of now.

H3 put the bar high and didn't fall through in that same regard, am I right?

[xg-ei8ht]

I said this before so i'll say it again.

This is basically about Cell vs Xenon in the end.

And i'm feel sorry for xbots not realising that the 360 cannot pump out anymore juice.

Wait till you see DIRT for the PS3, Amongst others.

[360_Rules]

Halo 3 owns Flopzone 2. Hahahahha MP is going to be sweet on Halo 3 and I bet Killzone 2 MP sucks like the first one. Hahhahahaa

[Bebedora]

You have 3 bubbles? And I have/had 4.

...How come?

[weekapaugh]

really tough to compare, the art direction is vastly different for each.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

As in once both games are out and have been played and reviewed... which I believe is sometime in 2008.

Remember Killzone #1 looked great...and everyone went crazy about how it was the Halo killer...and we all are aware of the reality of that.

Now that said, Killzone #2 could very well be a Halo killer...it certainly has the graphics from what we have seen. Gameplay and framerate issues are really the only things I could see at this point that would keep this from being a match to Halo. And I am not saying it has those issues..I have no idea...just that out of the known things so far...those would be the items that could hurt it.

Anyway...I will enjoy Halo 3 this Sept. and sometime in 2008 we can all finally compare the two games and see who is the real king.

[360_Rules]

Indeed. Both are going to be good so relax fanboys.

[Bullseye]

because i know it would have sounded biased and unfair, even though i did give some much overlooked and important caveats regarding the Killzone demo.So, to keep it more nuetral i'll just say this; like the rest of you guys i was extremely impressed by the Killzone 2 demo considering the minor problems that have been put down to the 'pre pre Alpha stage'By the way, when is this due for release? I'm not sure i'll remember how good it looked by then!!Halo looks cool, but will play white hot, all Halo fans know this, as sure as night follows day.Finish the fight!!

[Maddens Raiders]

it would be a mistake to think that no one is going to "remember" the E3 '07 KZII trailer. Kind of like another infamous trailer from E3 '05 (that NO ONE forgot) except that the latest version was all REAL.

So it's safe to say that NO one is going to foget the last KZII trailer and people ARE going to buy Halo 3. That's more accurate, yeah? =]

cheers

[BoneMagnus]

They both look great!

Sorry - I just don't see the use of comparing them. If you want to compare, then compare Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 and Killzone vs. Killzone 2.

Owners of each system get to enjoy a great FPS, and owners of both systems get to enjoy both - isn't that enough? Don't you want your fellow gamers to enjoy great games - regardless of platform?

[Daz]

I agree but fanboys cant play games on the other system because they cant admit there good but thats there loss on great games.

[Eagle Eye]

Both games look great. I really liked Killzone 2 graphics. But we all know that Halo 3 is not the best graphic game
(from a realism point of view) on 360. Hell it never even could of been once Gears of War came out. But it was always a fun game to play with huge environments something I dont think Killzone 2 will be able to match.

Edit: Also its not a question of system power or even a developer skills its a matter of style that the creators use. Anyone notice how a lot of Japan made games kind of look anime looking with bright colors (just like halo) would you say them games are for kids or that they suck hell no. Its just a matter of style nothing more.

[PS3n360]

halo 3 will outsell killzone. I would bet money on that. I am buying both so I cancel myself out.

[Cartesian3D]

they aren in alpha stage right now.. wait for a EVEN better KILLZONE trailer very soon .. they want to make us WOW SH!T in A$$ more than E3

rumor from me :D ... anyway both are good.. but KILLZONE is AWESOME ..KILLZONE is AMAZING ... omg cant say my feeling :)))

HALO is cartoony and very simple.. just look at world details in KZ and compare it to HALO..

[Hooby]

Killzone LOOKS awesome. It might collectivley suck. Stop making such outrageous claims.

World details? In halo you can see for miles, in killzone you can see all of 30yards on average.

[Master of Menace]

The E3 trailer was probably work they did 6 months ago. They are saving the real trailer for pre-release. Just when we think we've seen everything, bam, they'll blow our minds again.

[Eagle Eye]

Most shooting games are fairly simple.

[ALIEN]

I think everyone has their own opinions, So it depends on what your like. It was hard to me to come up with a conclusion, but here's my opinion. I think KZ2 has better graphics, but HALO3 is more colorful, so it makes it look good. GAMEPLAY! i can't tell, because i haven't palyed any of those 2 games, so i don't know about the gameplay.

finally:
I will have to go with KZ2. However, doesn't mean HALO3 sucks. I think both game are going to be great. PEACE OUT!

[darkequitus]

There is one thing having your own opnion, another being a bunch of retarded fanboy F**kwits, like most peaople on this site present themselves as.

[FeralPhoenix]

I think this is a tough comparison other than them both being FPS. Halo3 textures, lighting, and beautiful artistic style makes it look great but not like a modern day "realistic" shooter. Look at Halo3 screenshot pics, it shows some amazing detail vs KZ2 but its very different from KZ. KZ looks great, I like the weapons and the realism going on with blood and toe to toe fighting that game does look great.

IMO KZ looks great but not much better than many other realistic style shooters, games like GRAW2 and R6:Vegas both looked awesome and they were alot of fun, but not that Halo kind of fun, Bungie knows how to deliver that fun factor, which is why Halo2 is still played so much online. -Halo2 is the most fun I ever had on a FPS, and from my experience with the Beta it seems Bungie will outdo themselves.

I don't know but it seems although KZ2 does look great I think some Sony fans think this one trailer makes it better than Halo3 or anything else because its PS exclusive. I mean if you really wanted to do a comparison of FPS with the realistic, grim, dark, style graphics then lets see a Gears of War or even better how about COD4 graphics comparison video?

[lVlemphizStylez]

I downloaded both the KZ2 and COD4 trailer off PSN Store and to be honest. The KZ trailer looks more impressive. Same TV, both downloaded from the PSN Store...

[Lygre]

Halo 1: 96 %
Halo 2: 95 %

Killzone : 73 %

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I can understand why people are exited about Halo 3. But what's the deal with the Killzone hype?

[StateofMind]

Liberation?

What a tired excuse though. Guerrilla is basically a completely different studio now.

[paracardium]

Killzone 2 hands down kids love games like halo.

[Eagle Eye]

No kids love shooting shi* and blowing stuff up. So halo and killzone will be on the list.

[FirstknighT]

Another game tries to compare itself to Halo 3. Just shows the respect that Halo brings. Let me throw a few numbers for you...

Halo: 95.6%
Halo 2: 94.6%

Killzone: 73.2%
Killzone: Liberation: 79.7%

As you can see...Halo is a proven franchise while Killzone is a flop. So there really isn't a "Halo 3 vs Killzone 2" because Halo destroys Killzone. Killzone 2 sticks with the same tired formula of battling it out on dark war torn streets. Just like Resistance, Warhawk, Call of Duty, Metal of Honor, etc...While the Halo franchise throws you in a world of science fiction never seen in a FPS. Beatifully imagined and well balanced maps like Zanzibar, Midship, Lockout, etc...are one best maps ever created in a FPS game. It's this creativity that makes Halo stand out over the rest of the bunch. It doesn't use the same tired rountine.

*EDIT*

But what has Killzone 2 done differently from the rest? I think it looks exactly like Resistance or Call of Duty 4. There are 3 types of fps...

1. Dark battles w/ wartorn streets: Resistance, Call of Duy, Killzone, etc...
2. Dark hallways with scary monsters: Quake, Unreal, Doom, Prey, etc...
3. Halo

Bottom line...Halo stands out from the crowd. The others just blend in with the rest.

[Hooby]

It's fairly easy to say that almost all console games are trying to stack up to what's arguably the most popular console franchise in the world. But it doesn't mean that in the future they won't contend with or beat the top franchise.

I mean, the chances of KZ2 outselling halo 3 are almost nil in my eyes, but that doesn't mean it won't be one of the most awesome games right along side halo. Eventually something will take Halos mantle, we gotta wait and see what it is.

Don't diss a game of the future because of a rocky past. The important thing is that KZ2 looks awesome, whether KZ1 was a flop or not matters not at this point.

[Lygre]

Who was Bungie before Halo? :P

[Cartesian3D]

it seems u r not pro . in Counter strike there is no simple element at all ..

if u played once.. Using every weapon in EVERY map has complex & unique strategy..

for sure when u have distructible WORLD , PHYSICS and complex AI then FPS isnt simple..

@Hooby .

I said WORLD details is much more in KZ>. just Pause KZ HD video .. just look at that frame.. did u see a LINE? did u see 2 same thing or 2 same texture in that frame? just see the stairway , did u see 2 same step in that Frame?

ITS the reality , some devs care about their product in this term and some doesnt.. just look at HS face motion capture... we call it AAA title..

world details doesnt mean 100 Km same mountains and Trees and textures...

[Hooby]

I might be able to respect what you're saying so much more if you wrote in English and not that garbled hooplah you are attempting to pass of as it.

It's no AAA title yet. They're called GAMES because of GAMEplay. You don't have a game to look at it, you have a game to play it. Until people play it then you cannot call it anything besides really good looking. We sorta know Halo 3 will have awesome gameplay with fitting graphics...we can call that almost whatever we want because it has evolved from a successful franchise. Killzone has evolved from an unsuccessful franchise.

Your logic is almost as bad as your comprehension of English.

[Eagle Eye]

Cartesian3D Maybe I'm not a pro. For starters I have never played that game. Second I was only referring to game play. I've been playing games since I was 4 and I'm now 21.
But maybe that doesn't make me a pro or maybe I dont care.
But if you would learn how to read properly instead of acting all smart with your remarks you would see I said COMMENT 82: MOST FPS GAMES Are fairly Simple. Keyword being MOST

[Shaka2K6]

How you dare to compere the Crysis killer aka KingZonE3 to halo 2.1.
someone didnt take their medication today.

[Lucky232]

What's up with all the references to KZ1? Another GG developed game by the name of KZ: Liberation does exist. GG redeemed themselves; give credit where it is due please.

Also as for how KZ2 plays, you can look at nearly any major gaming site for hands-on impressions on the pre-alpha build. Generally positive reviews. This is pretty much a guaranteed AAA title for the PS3.

[Says you]

Mean the 2nd one can be better and why are there so many morons thinking that Killzone 2 should be colorful dont people realize that Guerrilla isnt going for the Teletubbie look, like Bungie is doing with Halo 3 and of course Icwake is so dumb that he thinks that the AI in Halo were smart when they can be easily be killed I think people are using the word "Advance" in the wrong way considering there was no way the Convenants in Halo series were no way advance I mean come on. and again the only thing that was good in Halo 2 is the online but the campaign sucked monkey balls hardcore! and sony4life of course Halo 3 is going to be the last game thats why its called a trilogy not quallogy Ah!Duh!

and further more Call of Duty 4 and Killzone 2 for godsakes Call of Duty 4 is not CG so why are they compare a CG like game like Killzone 2 with a game like Call of Duty 4 that didnt cost a game company $20 million when those are just low budet games and not big budget like hollywood CG game like Killzone 2

And of course Halo 3 isnt the only one that has a big playground that is an exaggeration whoever said that in Halo 3 that you can see for miles yeah right and you think that Killzone 2 doesnt nice try buddie but I hate to tell you this but Killzone 2 has much miles in the background than Halo 3 and plus who ever the other person is that says this isnt pre pre alpha what would you know your not part of the Guerrilla team if they said its pre pre alpha than its pre pre alpha its like you think your part of the Guerrilla team when you really NOT

[Legionaire2005]

Both Halo 3 and Killzone are great, but Killzone looks more serious, more emotional, and much more darker than Halo 3 plus it steals the show. Just look at the facial expression on the soldiers faces when they are in cold weather!!! It looks very close to the CGI E3 trailer 2005, which was controversial at the time. But!!! the developers of the game said that they never intend to compete with Halo 3 in the first place.

[DiLeCtioN]

thats my video lol dam i was going to post on n4g but looks like...Zhoutai beat me lol.
Anyway am glad its on n4g, enjoy guys.

[Cartesian3D]

sorry , I did correct that mistype.. I said allways Im stupid in english writing .. do u let me say my opinion? is that funny that Im not good at it ?

ur comment show ur manner very well..

anyway Im a pro in FPS on PC .. and Know what gameplay means in FPS..

and I know when u have a REAL world in a game u can make a FAR BETTER gameplay than a simple graphic game.. because u have MORE elements than other one..

and its harder as well.. and make a BUG free and more Detailed game is VERY VERY HARDER even with 20million dollar..

[hazardman]

Ok Killzone blew everyone away when they showed off the in game graphics..no one who commented here has ever played the game, but are sure that killzone will be a halo killer....I own both systems and I might buy both..I know for me Halo is a must buy. I've played Halo 1&2 so I gotta finish the fight. I believe Sony has had a lot of time to fix whatever glitches made killzone an awful game. One thing i know for sure is that Halo regardless of how it looks is going to have amazing single player and online multiplayer modes. Do we know if Killzone will hold up when it comes to the online play as it stand right now Sony has big time problems with its network. You guys should really wait til Killzone comes out to comment. UT3 will be way better than Killzone 2..and when Gears of War2 comes out you fanboys will wish it was on PS3.

[Master of Menace]

It's a great game. Most of you who say it's crap, have'nt even played it, being Xbots and such. It resides permanently in my collection. Killzone 2 will be way better.

[xTCx Death]

@lygre
Bungie made a bunch of great FPS for Mac called Marathong. they're great games :P

as for the Killzone2 vs Halo 3

Killzone will have better graphics, but halo 3 will sell more and get better reviews.there it is right there bank it on

[IQUITN4G]

There are some really stupid people on these forums and sometimes you just think whats the point even trying to enter into any serious argument with them.Half the people here seem to be about 10 years old with a further 1/4 of them having about the same mental age.Pathetic.

Halo3 is unlikely to be anything less than wonderful and will boast some beautiful graphics that fans of the series will be more than happy with.Most importantly it will play stupendously.

Killzone looks set to being technically better than Halo3 in graphics terms but with both being so gorgeous anyhow, will it really matter.A team of 200 people can go a long way to bringing together something extra special don't forget - ask yourself how an extra 100 men could further improve things for Halo as well(any game for that matter.Killzone is unproven as an AAA game so if you were to bet on one game here winning then it wouldn't be Killzone now would it.

I'm keen to see how Killzone performs as i very much liked the first game (even though it was only reasonable)but were it's gameplay not to match the graphics then what the point.

[abg428]

ok everyone needs to stop with this fanboyism and be real about things for once. Halo 3 is colorful and fantasy-like (fact) Killzone 2 is dark, gritty, all-balls action-like. Yes when they are put up next to each other, Killzone looks more bad ass.

GAMEPLAY-WISE both look very solid! Halo is sticking with its same run-and-gun formula from halo 2 while Killzone 2 adds new elements.(read the article N'Gai or whatever his name is, he can tell you better than I can)

What I'm saying is that maybe Halo has met its match, maybe not, maybe both will be bad-ass and be even, who knows!!? Just be real with yourself, Killzone 2 just looks way more bad-ass

[Daz]

What do they both add as element i havents seen anything.
Halo is what you said but on the hardest level in not that simple just runing into a pack of aliens but it mostly be a run and gun game.

KIllzone seems to play like any fps run for cover, fire, move on on then do the same again.

But i havent played them so i cant judge properly i could be totally wrong you never thought till they are relesed but thats what i see from the trailers.
THere both great FPS games thats all what matters really.

[gogators]

play both. They are both looking to be great games. If you can't, then buy the one you can and respect the other for what it does. No way KZ2 would be what it is today if were not for Halo. While graphics are extremely important for this kind of genre, I think everyone needs to wait and see how both look and play when they are finally released.

[Daewoodrow]

what exactly is there to compare? we have a trailer and a pre-alpha demonstration. Neither are going to prove which is the better game. It might hint at who has the better graphics. But who cares? Halo 3 doesn't need to have graphics like Killzone 2. The graphics on Halo 3 only need to be good to backup Halo's persistently great story and atmosphere. There were many games with better graphics than Halo 2 and halo 2 still outsold them.
Let's face it, Halo 3 would've sold millions of copies before you even see gameplay footage from Killzone 2.

[Raptors]

Honestly, fanboy-ism on this site disgusts me. I can't believe ppl would hold such narrow views. In the thousand of halo MP games I've played, I don't ever recall stopping and thinking "Wow, this game is beautiful". Never. Halo has always and will always be about gameplay and experience. If you don't like it then fine, move on. It has always been engulfing the player in a indulging experience and for the most part it has exceeded expectations. Gears is a visual masterpiece. Has a solid campaign mode and good MP mode as well, but I think we all can agree that Gears MP mode fails in comparison to Halo's. Then comes Killzone, again, a beautiful game so far especially at a pre-alpha stage. There is little known about the MP mode but it has its work cut out compared to what Halo has done in terms of the xbox live experience. So to sum it up visually you cant compare the games, you'd have to be in straight denial to say halo is better looking than Killzone. However, halo is bar-none one of the finest multiplayer games ever released and that alone is enough for my money come Sept 25. Everyone should shut up, stop arguing and buy both these games. They won't disappoint.

[Rybnik]

I have a feeling BOTH these games are going to be awesome for different reasons and are made for somewhat different audiences....

On a slightly related note, its really funny what happens when you bookmark old articles:

Oh, this is from Jan 2007:
hit the link and check comments 2, 3, and 4, its a laugh riot.
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Also:
Deep - 12 Apr 2007 08:44 (about Halo Alpha screens)
"I agree with you all. It's alpha and so it's not finished. Still looks better anyway. But imagine if Killzone alpha was released! You'd see all the fanboys rush in then wouldnt you and criticise the sh*t out of it."
Who here would have ever thought after we saw the real pre-alpha for KZ, we would be amazed!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You guys seem to forget the first lowsy rated Killzone and that this is the sequal of that horrible rated game

[lVlemphizStylez]

yea cause Sony has no game franchises that are beyond Halo...You know, like MGS, FF, GT series, God of War (which was a top selling game in the next gen era on a LAST GEN CONSOLE)...You know none of those are beyond or on par with the Halo Franchise...

[Cook1eMan]

Who ever made this video must have never thought about how good this comparison would be. These are completely different game that go in serperate directions. How do you compare a game that is made to look like real war while the other stick to tradition and stays away from what war games are known for(Hint: Halo 3)?

It's an unfair comparison and K2 should only be compared to games like call of duty 4 or gears of war. Even then K2 looks nothing like what it was sapposed to look like from last year, but still looks good.

[John HX]

The halo trailer is just horrible. Whoever edited it together should be trout-slapped by his fellow bungie employee.

And I don't get why people are so exited about killzone... the first one was horrible.

That said, it might be the better game of the two. In fact, either one could be. we just don't know yet. So chill and wait for the actual games, fanboys of both camps.

[truebego]

kz 2 vs halo 3 = pgr 4 vs gt 5
halo 3 will win and gt 5 will win
end of story

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Halo 1-2 dominated in style of gameplay and sales. Halo 3 beta had an amazing turn out and serious gameplay hours logged. Halo 3 Has flying vehicles, multiple methods of travel on land with vehicles. And unique ways to travel without them. Diverse enemies that can fly and operate vehicles in multiple combat scenarios.

4 player multi player (Confirmed) in halo 3 on-line. And the best LAN party FPS game ever created in the halo series. Novels and graphic novels have been created detailing the halo universe. Halo 2 is packed full of gamers even as you read this.

Killzone 1 didn't even put a dent in halo series achievements. And you nuts think killzone 2 will. Yeagh right! This game won't be played for 3 years and have 10% of the following halo 2 had. And it will not compare absolutely nothing to halo 3's gameplay on-line or on-line. Does killzone have a replay editor and replay sharing...guess what HALO 3 does! Some level 9 retard said the first killzone would be a halo killer it failed and sony-droids have been hard at work wishing it true.

I don't care about pretty colors and shadows you think killzone 2 has in any game this is irrelavant to unbelievable gameplay. How many games have you went back to play just cause it looked cute here and there? They call it re-PLAY (key word: P-L-A-Y for the slow people) value for a reason and gameplay is what generates it.

Start wishing for some vehicle combat because all I have seen is little man run'n'gun action. Where is the superior gameplay in that I would fight for vehicle addition or better yet go form the notorious petition.

[Daz]

There so exited about killzone because of the graphics nothing else it seems like, want proof go to the first showing of the killzone trailer. I think there others games out there that just look just as good for instence call of duty 4.

To me every game coming out looks good in there own way.

[Geewhizz]

Halo 1 - good graphics for the time, crap gameplay, crap story. Nothing new that hadnt been seen on a pc for years. Put it up against half life.

Halo 2 - crap graphics, crap gameplay, crap story, good online. More of the same, cant even compete with the likes of counterstrike. Also, just because it has sold loads, it dosent always make it great. Look at Cliff Richard (sold loads and loads of music but would you say he is any good?) Because by your thinking he would be one of the greatest music artists ever!

Halo 3 looks like halo 2, just shinier. It would still sell millions whatever it looked like due to whiny, pre pubescent american kids who cant handle playing hl2 online.

[zonetrooper5]

Sigh...I swear some people on this site are stupid, why would a $20 million dollar game take 2 years to make and still be in pre pre alpha, that word does not even exist. I reckon that as they are releasing in early 2008 I think they said, they would at least be coming to an internal Beta.

I'm still gonna get Killzone 2 and Halo 3, both will be excellent games, shame you fanboys won't touch one of these awesome games. Also, I could care less whether one level is 2GB, it still needs to be compressed and then sent through the ram and processor. Both games can be done on each console.

[MoonDust]

All they did was play one trailer and then they next. Wow.

[kornbeaner]

This is a hard one based on the video cause the video itself is pretty lame. From what I have been hearing on G4 Halo 3 is gonna look simply stunning. I'm not a Halo fan as I think the games are way overrated but just looking at all trailers has me wanting to play this game. KZ2 for sure simply cause I have been waiting since 05 and HALO 3 is a definite possibility in a future gaming rotation.

We need to wait for both to games to be released before we pass a verdict .

[Hayabusa 117]

Halo 3 was brilliant graphics. But Killzone's are even better.

Halo 3's gameplay would have all the brilliant stuff from the old Halo games but now with loads of new weapons, huge stages, open missions, massive confrontations and cool features like the ability to save and replay gameplay footage. I also think Halo has the better art design by far.

Killzone I reckon would play like Call of Duty. Hectic action, but ultimately linear gameplay. With the addition of a cool new cover system. Disagree if you want, it's only my opinion.

Either way, Halo isn't out yet, and Killzone is very early, so let's wait till both games are released.

[ilovepswii60]

a proven franchise means nuffing. jus look at this

Spiderman 2=great

spiderman 3=terrible

transformers (original)= great

transformers the movie= crap

p.s hu keeps taking my bubbles

[smack]

Regardless of how you feel about MS or Halo, one thing is certain; it is a cultural icon. I know in the US it is considered the premier FPS, and all other games pale in comparison.

Due to the lower installed base it will be virtually impossible for KZ2 to sell as many copies as are guaranteed for Halo, no matter how good it is.

I am not certain, but I believe that MS is dropping Halo now in an attempt to deliver a death blow to the PS3 before they ever get their AAA titles out the door. I know many of you disagree, but Halo will move consoles, just as you hope that the Sony AAA tiles will as well.

[timmyp53]

http://www.n4g.com/News-513...

[JCDenton]

There is now way that KZ2 is pre-alpha. I mean, the whole level, with programmed AI, with human voice-actors, without graphics bugs and glitches, with 60fps... It looks like BETA to me. I mean, just remember how DOOM 3 alpha looked like. Now, THAT was an ALPHA! Alpha version of the game (or any software) is for programmers eyes ONLY! So, it's not an alpha, and there is no such thing as "pre-alpha" stage of development.

[Da Ghostdog]

You cannot compare KZ2 with Halo 3!!!! You need to compare this game with CoD 4, Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament, last but not least Crysis. Killzone 2 is graphicly in depth more than Halo 3. But none of us don't know the gameplay for Killzone 2. We all know the gameplay for Halo 3. It's Halo's storyline and gameplay makes it a pioneer in FPS games. If you want to compare graphics, compare it to Crysis. IMO Crysis is the best looking FPS over Halo 3 & Killzone 2. If you fangirl b!tches don't believe me, check out the link below...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/...
http://www.nzone.com/object...

Reason being Killzone is for the Ps3 and this is your "answer" to Halo 3 and the reason why fangirls catfighting each other on this website. The fact is the gameplay better rival Halo 3. That's why the Halo franchise has been a success these past years. I hope Sony came correct this time around. If they didn't, Killzone 2 will be just another FPS. CoD 4 will be a threat to Halo 3, Killzone 2 and all First-Person Shooters this year.

I come to this website for news and info, but all I get fangirlism to the highest degree.

[tjd211]

The alpha version of kz2 beats halo 3 finial version no question about it

[Hayabusa 117]

The alpha version of Killzone 2, is probably short, buggy, unbalanced, incomplete, glitchy and unfinished. The final version of Halo 3, is a complete experience with a classic online mode. How is this a fair comparison?

[tjd211]

who ever thinks that kz2 can be done on the xbox 360 they are crazy. they had two years to show us if it could be done and it has not happen. While the ps3 only took one year.

[Lucky232]

As I've said numerous times; you can look it up if you want, Gran Turismo and GTA own Halo when it comes to sales. Every single time.

[Scions Wrath]

1. Look at both Killzone 2 and Halo 3's E3 2007 trailers - the winner is clear.

2. Anyone who has played the Halo 3 beta {me} knows that Halo 3 is using Halo 2's {from xbox 1} game engine and it shows - next generation gaming? hmmm... Meanwhile killzone2 uses PS3 Cell and RSX graphics chips.

3. Look at the n4g hottest game rating for Killzone2 compared to Halo 3

[MoonDust]

1. Colors vs. grey
2.Are you retarded?
3. According to that list The Darkness is also > Lair/COD4/Haze/Assassins Creed and every other game not on that list. Don't be a fool.
4. Where was KZ when Halo was at 30,000 degrees?

[DeadlyFire]

Even with KILLZONE 2 in its Delta or Pre-Alpha version its looking good I say better than Halo 3. I know Halo 3 will look grand, but it doesn't have the same atmosphere. KILLZONE 2 is a dark atmosphere of war and Halo is all outside in the daytime. At least that is all that I have seen of it.

KILLZONE 2 can look even better in another 6-8 months before release as well. I would only compare it to Too Human, Gears of War 2, Resistance 2, or whatever else is down the line in 2008 for both consoles.