Gay marriage coming to Runes of Magic

At a time when gay marriage is illegal in most countries across the real world, one forward-thinking MMO developer is displaying a liberal attitude in the virtual world.

The game is Runes of Magic, a World of Warcraft-esque free to play MMORPG that makes its money through micro-transactions.

In an upcoming free expansion, called Chapter III - The Elder Kingdoms, a marriage system will be introduced that allows same sex marriage.

[ChozenWoan]

I thought all the girls on there was really men.

[Dave1351]

Sick and unnatural, just as bad as being a pedophile. The media has desensitized people over the years

[mushroomwig]

@Dave1351

Who the hell are you to compare homosexuality to pedophila? First off, being in a homosexual relationship is something that's consensual between two people, pedophila isn't.

Secondly, what does the media have anything to do with this? It's called human decency to recognise the fact that same sex relationships are equally important as same sex ones.

I only hope you're just trolling because if you were serious about your comment then I really pity your mindset.

[Brewski007]

He's clearly just a troll/kid. I mean he's even got a cartman avatar.
But what an idiotic comment to make really trolling aint even an excuse for that.
On topic i think its cool and innovative and shows how far we've moved on , not just technically but also being more socially acceptable to walks of different lifes.

[Dave1351]

Nope I was pretty serious, back in the day it wasnt tolerated. men acted like men and women acted like women (good family values). Its a sickness in the head to find the same sex attractive, just like finding kids attractive.

u guys should wake up and get your heads out of your a$$es and quit believing what they tell you, think for yourself!

[Ocelot525]

@Dave1351

damn redneck...

living in a house is also unnatural, gaming is also not natural,...

natural is raping a girl on the street just because you wanted to fulfill your instinct, your desires

but being unnatural is what being a human is, breaking whith your natural side, ignoring your instinct, instead using reason and intellect in your actions, many problems society faces to day are natural actions of humans

do you see now why your unnatural argument is BS?

there is only one argument against homophelia: it's unethical if you follow the ethics from Emmanuel Kant ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

but then again, ethics in the USA aren't based on Kant but on Utilitarianism

[Dave1351]

dang rednecks dont know how to use those fancy wikipedia links

[Brewski007]

I do think for myself, and what I think is that I have no problem with same sex relationships. Although I'm very happy with my girlfriend of two years who am i to deny someone who'd rather share this happiness with someone of the same sex?
And take your own advice and allow others to think for themselves, If people want to be in a same sex relationship then its clearly their perogative. Its takes an ignorant narrow-minded individual like to compare that to pedophilia. I mean seriously.
If industries like the gaming industry want to explore this avenue also then its a step in the right direction in breaking down these social barriers.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

Dave has a point, he just twisted it a little. Homosexuality is the same as pedophilia with the exception of one major fact. Homosexuality is consensual, and pedophilia is rape. But otherwise he is right, homosexual love is no less creepy than bestiality, necrophilia, or even toilet sex. We have just been conditioned to think gay love is "normal" while we demonize those other sexual preferences.

The fact is gay love deviates from what is considered "normal" from a scientific point of view. Just as those other sexual preferences do, I think we need to stop demonizing people with other "weird" sexual preferences, and start letting them off the hook like we do gays. Unless of coarse the sexual desire hurts someone else, in that case we should try to help the sexual deviants instead of demonizing them. Many child molesters have stated that they cannot stop their behavior, and that they will re-affend, so why is there no push to try and understand them, so that we may help these guys.

Why should gays be the only sexual deviant group that gets treated with respect? The guy who likes to play with his wife's poop is called sick, but the guy who likes to play with other guys, is worthy of unlimited blind tolerance and social respect. Something is wrong with that.

[Chris_Hansen_Rocks]

@above

"the guy who likes to play with his wife's poop is called sick, but the guy who likes to play with other guys, is worthy of unlimited blind tolerance and social respect. Something is wrong with that."

yea but marying someone who plays whith poop is legal in all states, but same sex mariage is not. this was the subject.

but you're right, legal fetishes should be socially accepted, in europe we are at a further stage at that. Things like SM aren't taboo anymore.

[Darkstorn]

@1.5-
WRONG.
The U.S. was NOT founded on utilitarianism. Utilitarianism hadn't even been speculated about until John Stuart Mill in the mid-19th century, let alone in 1776. The closest thing that existed at the time was Rosseau's 'back to the natural state of man' thesis, but the United States' founders rejected that hypothesis.

America as it was founded was somewhat based on egalitarianism, but overall Locke and Hobbes are the main influences.

[cheese]

It's okay to be gay, Dave.

https://www.psychologytoday...

http://www.selfhelpmagazine...

I'll sum up what the research finds: homophobia is a symptom of repressed homosexuality.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

Yeah admittedly I was not addressing the gay marriage issue, I was talking about the lack of tolerance for Daves point of view, and other sexual deviants.

One of the problems I have with gay marriage, is that you are not just asking that gays be allowed to marry, you are asking that the the world or nation change the definition of marriage. Marriage is something that is sacred to many many people, for a small group of people to come along and insist that we all change the definition of marriage to suite their preference is intrusive and oppressive. No one small minority should have the right to force their unique and opposing belief system on the majority.

Gay marriage is not about guys sexing guys, or homophobia, its about the non existent rights of a few trampling the existing rights of many.

I think the less morally bankrupt thing for gays to do is leave marriage alone and come up with something similar to marriage, with a different name, and legal definition just for gays and lesbians.

[drdistracto707]

shouldnt hate be exclusive to the open zone?

gamer zone is for the impartial only

[Ocelot525]

@1.10

you're right, but much of today's politics are unofficialy based on it.

[washingmachine]

OH MY WORD LOL

[Army_of_Darkness]

now we all can see some real "sword fighting" action!..... **goes and pukes**

[mushroomwig]

Good, there is no real reason why they should't allow a thing like that in games.

[Darkstorn]

Agreed. The more options, the merrier.

[Treyb3yond]

Americans may find this something to fret over, religion has that effect.

[drdistracto707]

agreed, how about we ban religion before we ban gay marriage

at least then we'd be doing ONE thing that is helpful

[Darkstorn]

@4.1-
I wouldn't go so far as to ban religion, but with objective education more people will leave their faith behind. Religion shouldn't be nonexistent, but it should be less readily accepted than it is today.

[KiLLUMiNATi_89]

I hate g a y people it doesn't make sense in how guys would turn down p u s s y for fuking dic ks. Now that's point blank unexplainable and unacceptable

[Pumbli]

I hate i g n o r a n t people, it doesn't make sense in how people can act like a s s h o l e s and judge someone just because that person has a different sexual orientation then they do. Now that's point blank unexplainable and unacceptable.

[Ocelot525]

it is the same reason why the healthcare bill is such a big issue in the USA:

ignorance, it are people who never seen much of the world, never been proplerly in contact with other cultures and societies

I was once very ignorant too, believed that capitalism was the end of history and i had some catholic beliefs

now I belief in people, not in god, now I know we don't have to wait till death for heaven, we have to make it here on earth. but a system based on greed never gonna be heaven.

People need to know that this isn't the end of history like Francis Fukuyama says, history has merely begun.

[washingmachine]

lol@real sword fighting

[5tgyw3ty34]

Relevant piece of news!!

[Ironfungus]

Title. I agree 110% with Dave.

[SephireX]

I can't believe how many homophobic people are on this forum. If someone is gay, it is their business. @Dave1351. You must be mentally challenged if you think being homosexual is the same as being a pedophile. Then again, you're a redneck and 95% of rednecks have below average IQ. A pedophile is someone who forces sex on children. Homosexuals have consent from each other. Thus, there is a massive difference. You're just a narrow-minded sheep that has probably never being outside of the USA. It is people like you who hold back society. Being conservative just for the sake of being conservative is nothing less than idiocy.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

the irony is thick in this thread, everyone who is creeped out by homosexuality is not a red neck, that is incredibly ignorant to say.

Dave has every right to feel the way he does, just like gays have every right to have sex how they want. When you lash out against Dave your doing the same thing you are hating on him for doing. That is one of the catch 22s of anything goes unchecked liberalism, no one is wrong, and no one is right, its live and let live. Dave is no more evil than the gays you folks are so anxious to support. Unless Dave starts shooting gays on sight he has done nothing wrong, and should be tolerated just as gays are to be tolerated.

And for all you guys who think homosexuality is so cool, why aren't any of you trying out guys? If its so normal, why not go sleep with a guy tonight, perhaps you'll enjoy it more than women?

You don't because the thought of sleeping with another man makes you gag, your just like Dave, the only difference is Dave has the balls to say it. He is not brianwashed, like you pods.

[Slimshadyn]

I agree that Dave has a right to his own opinion but you see nothing wrong with him putting down people just because they are gay. And what do you mean we should tolerate Dave's comments just like we tolerate gays. And by tolerate I hope you were using in the sense that we should recognize and respect the rights and beliefs of others, and not that we should put up with something or somebody unpleasant, tolerate has more than one meaning. One is correct and the other is belittling.

[Ocelot525]

"And for all you guys who think homosexuality is so cool, why aren't any of you trying out guys? If its so normal, why not go sleep with a guy tonight, perhaps you'll enjoy it more than women?"

it's not cool, it just happens and can't be cured, u could be gay too. everyone can, maybe you are but you just can't accept it and u bash it instead(very common for gay people)

they don't harm society, and deserve equal rights as everyone.

[Kakihara]

I'm guessing they're all made by incredibly mature and tolerant people and totally disprove the ridiculous stereotype of gamers as ignorant bigoted teenagers who think they're able to determine exact limits to the liberty allowed to consenting adults in a secular democracy despite not having yet learned the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.

[Treyb3yond]

Waaaay, way behind on this subject. As long as it's consensual, legal and behind closed doors between adults, it's up to them what they do.

Everyone HAS to have a right to their own life, or why call America "the land of the free?" when it really should be "the land of fitting into a demographic?"

[Treyb3yond]

And being gay IS NOT a "life style" choice. People are born with a sexual preference. This develops as we all get older.

It's not like one day a person thinks "yeah, today I'm gonna be gay" you either like people of the same sex (and get turned on by them) or you don't.

The reason I don't have sex with other men is because I'm not attracted to them, not because I find gays disgusting.

As long as lewd acts are not carried out in public and is between consenting adults and is legal, who is to say what they can and can't do?

You? why is that then?

Be careful about taking away the freedoms of others because one day the same types of people may take away some of the freedoms which affect you. And comparing homosexuals to active pedophiles is beyond stupid.

1: Children are not adults.

2: Children are not consenting.

3: Pedophiliac pornographic material ALWAYS involves the abuse of a minor.

4: Raping or sexually abusing Children is socially unacceptable, illegal and immoral.

Sexuality MUST be legal to be acceptable.

[brianpk80]

The people and organizations who oppose gay and lesbians most virulently are in fact repressed homosexuals and pedophiles. Healthy well-adjusted straight guys and women aren't really bothered on a gut level by gay men and lesbians. The opposition generally spews forth from maladjusted deviants: Ted Haggart, Iris Robinson, Carrie Prejean, Larry Craig, priests who are cool with child molestation, etc. More and more, everyone is realizing this and in 2010 one of the easiest ways to make one's self look like a deviant is to rag on gays & lesbians.

[CountDracula]

I've been waiting for this ever since my lover and I were discriminated from marriage for so long.