Hackers manage to Dump PS3's GameOS and leak it publicly

Today JaicraB (linked above) with the help of DemonHades have done what GeoHot failed to do, dump and publicly leak the PS3 Hypervisor LV2 (GameOS) for the entire PS3 scene to begin reversing and examining for new holes, exploits, etc!

Read more: http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Hacks/ps3-hypervisor-lv2-gameos-dumped-and-publicly-leaked/#ixzz0kGEKbGOJ

[LordMarius]

"to share with everyone to further PS3 development."

what development? you mean piracy

P.S. I dont know what any of this means -_-

[Sunny_D]

What does that mean? Does it mean they were able to bring the otherOS option back?

[raztad]

It just mean some guys are hard in work trying to hack the system, not success so far, but they are making some small progresses.

If they get too close I expect Sony to issue a new firmware to increase security.

Are those guys getting paid for doing this? or is just for fun?

[Mo0eY]

I do not understand how homebrew can help the PS3 in any way. The PS3 pretty much does everything (no pun intended). What possibly can they add besides a game emulator?

Edit: I'm a Computer Sciene major at my college, and I do not understand any of what this guy has said. His English isn't so great so I can't really comprehend. All I know is they have the GameOS (the hypervisor is essentially a way to run multiple virtual machines, and from what I can gather, it's the XMB (the thing lays on top of a game once it is launched there)). They are releasing it to the public so the public can reverse engineer the code to look for any exploits and holes in the system.

Edit 2: I'd like to also add that no matter what happens, PS3 exclusives are quite large in size usually 20 to 30GBs. This requires a Blu-ray burner and Blu-ray recordable discs. Essentially, pirating a game is not worth the effort as both the burner and the recording discs are quite expensive. The only thing they can possibly do is homebrew which, like I said above, is useless unless PS1/2 emulation is developed. I can't see anything else being used.

[jjohan35]

I would never in a million years install a custom firmware made by hackers on to my PS3. At least with Windows, there are safeguards such as port monitoring, anti virus programs, anti phishing software, etc. On the PS3 we cannot monitor anything that goes in or out of our system. That console has our credit card information! Sooner or later someone is going to make a custom firmware that can send out our personal info from our PS3. We don't have anti virus or anti phishing software to monitor our PS3's traffic.

[young juice]

hope they dont fvck up and exploit another option sony's givin them.

like media sharing for example..... unlike other os, people actually use this.

[gtamike123]

Run games of a 500GB HDD and maybe backup your old PS2 games and play them also?

[gtamike123]

media sharing lol with the right software I think that could be done :P

[PaLaK-]

The ps2 had loads of pirating, quite early on its lifecycle - the ps3 has been out 4 years and still no pirating.

By the time ps3 games are widely pirated, the ps4 will probably be announced..

Btw, blu rays are expensive, sometimes its cheaper to buy the game, and I don't fancy downloading 50gb, etc etc..

[nycredude]

To all those looking and waiting for the Ps3 to get hacked. Good luck keeping your identity. If/when it gets hacked, mark my word there will be malicious cfw that will steal your info. Hackers don't do this for free. Check the forum posts on this site, they are already talking about possibly siphoning personal info with dns and other stuff I could prob understand if I wanted to but is too lazy to try. LOL.

Upon further review, and quite frankly at the expense of too many brain cells, it seems that this dump is an incomplete one and represents a small step in the ongoing efforts by the underground (really out in the open) hacking community to hack the Ps3. Seems it was done with the linux code, which explains why it was removed from the older/newer ps3 recently.

[morganfell]

These hackers like geohot are not unknown persons living in a shadow world behind non-existent IPs. It is just a matter of time before they do something that is prosecutable in one territory or another. When that happens life will get very painful and expensive for them.

[Theonik]

There is nothing illegal with what Geohot has done actually, before the other OS feature came out he even intended to leave the PS3, all he wanted was to show he could do it. however the thing shown on the site is illegal and prosecutable as the dumping of OS data is legal however distributing it is infringement of patent laws.

[morganfell]

Not quite. In some territories facilitation of a crime, through commission of an act which in and of itself is legal, can allow one to be charged as an accessory to that crime.

[bruddahmanmatt]

I've kept a close eye on the status of the PS3 being hacked over the years and I still say the same thing now that I've said then. The problem with trying to play bootlegged PS3 games is that it'll be a major pain in the ass to have to download up to 50 gigs of data and rip it to a blu-ray disc. I realize that this is mostly true for exclusives and even then, not all PS3 games fill an entire dual layer BD. Still, even 25 gigs would be a pain. I'm not too sure about the price of blank BD media or burners but I imagine it isn't too cheap at the moment just like CD and DVD burners were expensive back in the day.

As far as playing games off of your HDD if they ever find a way, looks like those with an OEM drive will be forced to upgrade to at least a 500GB. I can't even fathom trying to fit a library of games onto a bone stock 80 or 120 gig drive let alone a pithy 60 or 40. Even the 250 will seem small once you start hoarding titles.

In all honesty, I can understand the allure of free. Who doesn't love free aside from the developers and publishers of course? Still, compared to what it was when I was a kid, gaming is ****ing cheap these days. You think $60 for a brand new game is expensive? Psh. I realize that many games nowadays are actually more than $60 after you factor in DLC but at least you have a choice as to whether or not you want to spend the extra cash. Besides, waiting a few months can do wonders as far as reducing gaming costs. At the moment, it seems like a bigger PITA to hack PS3 games than to buy them brand new and until that changes, Sony won't have to worry much.

[beardpapa]

How many years has it been? 4? How much progress have these hackers made? Zip?

I don't know but four years .... the 360, Wii, PSP, and DS have been hacked in much less time than that. Even the ipad was jailbroken over this weekend.

Maybe these guys should focus on another gadget or keep themselves quiet until they really make some worthwhile progress, instead of making the community go gaga over their minor exploits.

@bruddah: blu-ray burners and blanks are cheap. Their prices nowadays reflect well to when dvd burners were out during their days. The only thing is are they worth it? I've got several tb nas I could just use to wifi backup everything at home or remotely, and another nas to backup the primary nas. Why burn? To share? Oh I got a thumb drive for that.

They'd be worth it for some that want to get backups made for their games or movies, but with the flexibility and ease of use for thumb drives and wireless backup mediums, a blu-ray burner seems like it's a novelty device.

They are still cheap. And it's preposterous to say they're expensive when even the typical modern day 16-18 yo teenager pays for Live, smartphone, getting high, a game or two, and maybe some MMO every month. With all those misc. bills they have to pay, you can't possibly say an extra $160-200 for a burner and some blanks is going to make them broke.

And 25gb+ games? Not difficult to download. They have file hosts and jdownloader to streamline the whole downloading experience these days. I go through 14-20 gigs of bandwidth in a week, but sometimes that can jump to 45gigs overnight. Surprisingly my ISP doesn't complain, but it just goes to show that 25gb isn't that much. It was a lot a few years ago but with higher speed cable and fios 25gb isn't much to worry about.

@jmare: I wasn't saying if those devices were impressive in terms of how fast they got hacked. Just saying that given the amount of time these ps3 hacking communities have gone through, where's the progress at? 1%? 5%? 10%? It's like they're just going in circles. They should just give up with their announcements or effort. Who knows... maybe Sony is actually reading their forums and knowing what they're doing to circumvent any malicious progress the community makes.

[jmare]

The Ipad being jailbroken isn't that impressive since it's running a modified version of the iphone OS. And considering how fast the code was ported, it obviously wasn't that modified.

[Will-UK]

This will probably annoy geohot and make him want to hack ps3 faster.

But only the older ps3's with lower than 3.21 can even attempt this hack.

[Anon1974]

I like this picture of Geohotz behind bars holding the soap.
http://www.n4g.com/industry...

Of course, I did it and it's a shameless plug, but I like it none the less. :)

[JL]

Yea these guys could be in for some serious trouble. GeoHot at least had vague loopholes he could slither through as he never actually did anything that big. Though if he keeps on with his "crusade" against Sony he will be venturing into illegal waters.

These guys, however, took it further and too far for their own good if Sony really wants to press things. This is a violation of the DMCA which prohibits the actions of trying to circumvent security measures. Like stated above, I don't think what they've actually done is necessarily illegal, it's more of the distributing it part. It sounds alot like the 2002 case of Edelman v. N2H2. This was a case where the guy was reverse engineering a piece of software and wanted to get a preemptive ruling on the case so he could publish his findings. The courts through his motion out saying he couldn't.

Also there's MPAA v. RealNetworks. Real Networks was sued for distributing copyrighted software that the MPAA owned. The basis being that by providing that software to others/consumers, it allowed said consumers to circumvent anti-piracy measures put in place by the MPAA.

So if those two cases were prosecuted, then these guys can definitely be prosecuted for also publishing copyrighted work like that and contributing to the circumvention of copyrighted work and attempting to circumvent security measures.

[sikbeta]

Hyper-lol, this hackz will don't Go Anywhere, they are progressing step by year lol, by the time the will do something with da hackz, we'll be playing KILLZONE4 on the PS4, also I hope by that time when they make that cuztomz-firmwarez, the PS3 brick on them for being So Cheap....

Muahahaha....

[Sevir04]

if a machine is made to play games for only that platform, hacking it just sooo you can, play games illegally cuts money out of dev teams trying to make a living... it ultimately holds the entire industry back... which is why i dont run emulators on my pc or even jailbreak any of my consoles.. in fact it messes up the longterm usage of the machine...

i hope these hackers get whats coming to them.

[Danteh]

I hope these hackers epic fail

seriously f!cking pirates

[menoyou]

this is great news. i hope they open up the ps3 completely. it will be the best entertainment system ever.

[Prototype]

Common Sense =/= Intelligence

If this guy was smart he wouldn't run his mouth about wanting to hack the ps3, all it does it gives Sony more of a reason to keep patching the system to keep it from being broken.

Apparently he's runnin his mouth because he CAN'T hack the ps3; as they say the weaker dog barks louder

[ScrappyDoo]

Hurry up Sony! remove another feature. They can remove or add whatever the want, nothing is unhackable.

[creatchee]

Hacking does not equal piracy.

I hate piracy. It takes money out of the developers' hands who take the time to create gaming experiences for us and affect future development in doing so.

I love hacking. It proves beyond a doubt that the human spirit is alive and won't be held back by somebody saying "no" or "you shouldn't" or whatever.

And just so we are clear, hackers are not pirates in general. What they do is done simply because they can, not for profit or acclaim or anything like that. Piracy is done for those things and a complete disregard for the creative process.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Fun enough PS3 was the first system to como from factory homebrew enabled, as far as I remember. You could run your code on PS3, just make it for Linux PowerPC distros. If you wanted a better browser, a music and video player compatible with more formats and even some original free games, all you had to do 3 weeks ago was download it for Linux on PS3.

Now, thanks to those pricks, whom never aimed at homebrew in first place but were only trying to pass their illegal sh*t as right, homebrew scene is extinct. Even worse we keep seeing pirates acting like they are being opressed and persued by big evil companies or acting like they are defending gamers (from what remains a mistery to me).

Removing this feature was the only logical step Sony had, this don't change who's to blame: PIRATES. Now we can just wonder what Sony will take away next if those losers aren't stopped. I for one really wanted internet wasn't this space for anonymity and impunity, that GeoHot and his crew could get arrested for real (although most countries don't have rigid enough laws nor interest in protection of IPs) before their kind ruin it for everyone else.

[caffman]

blu-ray burners at my local computer fair in the UK are under £50 for an internal one and £75. Disks are around the £3 mark per disk. I don't exactly call that expensive

[kwicksandz]

sony brought this on themselves.

You piss of the linux community, you pay the consequences. Bring on custom firmware!

[AnttiApina]

While I do support the homebrew scene of PSP, I don't think it would be the same with PS3.

[commodore64]

Well, I guess the ps3 hacking floodgates have opened.

You can blame geohotz all you want.
You can watch Sony remove additional features.
It won't matter.

Not saying I agree with the ethics involved.
Just saying.

;)

[YoungKingDoran]

lol at crazy old beardpapa (1.14)
"kids getting high", "these days with the file host, and the jdownloader" "when i was a youngin"

[deafwing]

can't believe these guys are still on an ego trip to hack the ps3. It's the one system that most people don't want hackers to f with. So far I don't see the real benefits beyond using backup media of blu ray games (and they are quite large).

Okay so they say let's hack it - Sony removes Other OS option
Okay so they say we dumped it - wonder what sony will do now .. remove online features?

[George Sears]

I guess, it takes two... to tango

*Storms room like David Caruso with CSI Miami theme song in the background*

[MisterNiwa]

Dude thats f*cked up!

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

needs this.

http://ingresstech.com/~ber...

[claterz]

Damn these hackers need to get out more.

[Eamon]

The irony is they probably get out more than you do..

[Blackcanary]

that i didn't have a clue what there trying to do.

[MadBoJangles]

Same :|

[deafwing]

simple .. the system has been out for 4 years now and no one has completely hacked it.

Let's define hacking in gaming/game systems - it simple means, make the system do anything it's not supposed to do; like play all games that you normally wouldn't be able to, use backups of bluray games, old ps1/ps2 titles, and do other things that you otherwise shouldn't.

It's quite an achievement on Sony's part to keep this battle up for so long, so to these guys whoever does it first (and they are not close) will be crowned _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (enter appropriate title) of geekdom.

[dorron]

What will Sony do now? Prevent gamers from playing games?

This probes taking otherOS out was pointless...

[madmonkey0]

it was done using linux, so it proves exactly the opposite.

[Noctis Aftermath]

Most likely the next feature to be taken out if the hacking gets out of hand will be the web browser.

[sinclaircrown]

Sorry this isn't the Open Zone where there aren't any comments actually worth reading.

On Topic: This really means nothing to 99% of PS3 gamers.

[sikbeta]

If they do this [through] the OtherOS this doesn't mean Crap, cuz Sony take that feature out, even if you don't update, new Games will need the FW 3.21 in order to be Played, so there is no way to keep using the the PS3 without that FW installed, now some dudes are using a "Proxy-method" to no update but it's just a matter of time IF they want to Keep Gaming

The majority of Fat-PS3 Owners (also PS3-Slim Owners) Already Installed the FW 3.21, the People with PS3-Clusters don't update but they'll never implement "da hackz" cuz they don't use the PS3-Clusters for Gaming/On-Line/Blu-Ray and the bunch of PS3 owners that didn't Update, they'll not Play FUTURE Games and will WAIT, MONTHS/YEARS in order to get the "C-FW" with the Risk of Brick their Systems Thanks to this "C-FW"

[deafwing]

... in other words, the story about the HyperV dump is up to speculation ...

no one knows if it was done on pre 3.21 update machine. I'm betting they used one of the older firmwares.

[theunleashed64]

damn hackers

[cronaldo7]

pirate captains, ships, and treasures

[cronaldo7]

There is nothing that can't be pirated :D this way or that ;). HARRRRRRRR

[gtamike123]

so this is the PS3 OS for everyone to look at?

[ClownBelt]

I have no fricking idea what this technical stuff is all about. Can anyone translate all this in English. ie. Can we pirate now or what? lol

[madmonkey0]

nope we cant pirate yet, this is of no use to normal gamers at all.

[deafwing]

No pirating still - it just means that they are one step closer in "n" number of steps to achieve what you're asking. "N" could be any number, like 3, or 10,000. Other than that, these hackers are just, for lack of a better statement, 'playing games.'

[wissam]

Not interested.

[sharif699]

If it were we could just lock these worthless scum up

[jerethdagryphon]

DECOMPILING system softweare is against tos if that makes it illigal then yes otherwise no mores the pity

but when sony kills the system early youll now why

[Pandamobile]

Lol, you don't know much about law, do you Sharif?

[BannedForNineYears]

I think this has something to do with electronics?

[Godmars290]

is that any chances of the PS3 being opened up to all a iPhone type app store, is now as good as dead.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Uh-Oh, time to remove the GameOS from the system Sony!

[gtamike123]

remake hehe :)

[Fishy Fingers]

They'll come and take your pads away ;)

[GiantEnemyCrab]

or you will have to get your hands removed at the point of sale when you buy your PS3. It is the only way to truly protect the system.. Until some cheeky hacker starts programming with his feet.

;)

[Godmars290]

Meanwhile on the other side of the fence we have the 360. Its parent company MS who have made security a keyword in all software products they've ever made, yet are best known for the security holes in said products. The lengths they go to patch them, often including those measure into consumer costs, only to have them exploited as soon they're implemented.

Also, lets not forget the PSP...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

^^ MS would be better off just shipping things wide open with exploits they usually end up in that state anyway.. lol

[Meryl]

that is not going to happen seriously the otheros feature only affects a small amount of users, the gameos would affect every user out there, so all users would stop being able to play games, theefore would not buy any more games, and i am pretty sure that one would be illegal as playing games is the minimum you expect a home console to be able to do, so please just shut up, sony would be killing themselves if they ever made a stupid move like that.

[GigaGaia]

Sony should implent a check. If someone isn't running a legit firmware, then you can't connect to PSN and you automatically get banned.

[ReBurn]

Sony already runs a check to make sure you're running the right firmware before you can connect to PSN. The only thing you're able to do is update or you get signed out.

[Eamon]

GigaGaia, trust me, it's not as simple as you think it is.

[deafwing]

that's a little harsh but I see you're point ... it would suck but it would make a clear point if it ever came to that.

But "Eamon" has a good point. what you're saying should have already been implemented on the 360 ... why haven't they?

Part of the game experience is also provided the game developers themselves (like call of duty) meaning that their networks would have too support this measure as well.

There is no framework for that (yet) and given all that we are going through in this gaming generation, I can bet you the next batch of systems will be even tighter than this.

[Harry190]

to re read that in plain and simple english because I must admit I have no idea what it really means.

[Anarki]

I WOULD like a homebrew of some sorts on my ps3, though, I really hope that this does not result in copied games and stuff.
It would only be stupid to download blu-ray games...

[jmare]

Do you really think that every game on the PS3 needs a BluRay? I'm sure if the hackers can get deep enough into the OS, they can write code to accept DVDs as game discs. The only problem would be the file size and considering that almost all multiplat games have to fit on one DVD because of the 360, if a way is made to run PS3 games on DVD, piracy becomes a much more likely, and an easier, endeavor.

[deafwing]

... you're not making sense. First you say it's not a problem, then you say the file size matters ... I'm lost.

YOu want to put copied blu rays on dvd/images/disks? What's the point in even doing that.

Yet, I do understand what you're saying about not every game needs a bluray - sadly though that library of games is small and almost void of titles worth owning.

[jmare]

I was referring to first party games being too large to fit on 1 DVD, but the fact that many 3rd party games could conceivably be made to work for the PS3 on 1 DVD as they are on 1 DVD on the 360. I brought it up because I remembered reading somewhere that the Debug PS3s that reviewers have can play PS3 games on DVD. Either way I seriously doubt it would be that big of a deal to create a workaround as it would reduce the cost of pirating PS3 3rd party games a great deal.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

And another USELESS "Hack"...

[SkyGamer]

correction, the fat launch date models did everything. Did you notice that sony cut TWO usb from the fat to the slim? Oh and you are very smart threatning hackers. There are some good ones out there that could mess with the yakuza or sony or government themselves and they will never be caught, why? The reason being is that they are that darn good. So yeah go threatning them and pissing them off. The dunce of the year award goes to . . .

People will always want to pirate. You record a show off the tv to a vhs or you record a song off the radio. How about copying someones recipe or borrowing a game or movie. I could go on and on but in the end, pirates will always exist. Maybe for different reasons such as self-fulfillment or personal use or whatever the reason may be. NOTHING tech is hack proof. It took osx mac's os someone hacked into it as root user in like what 120 seconds? Nothing is fail-safe.

[radphil]

@7.1

I highly doubt all that stuff people do is 25GB+ of data in one go.

[Walrus]

Talk about biting the hand that feeds... Don't they realize that doing this just takes stuff away from everyone? Its really irritating.

[JL]

Exactly. This is a classic case of one bad apple spoiling it for the bunch. Yet somehow irrational people want to blame Sony for all that's going on right now instead of the hackers who are attempting to spoil things and doing things they're not supposed to do in the first place. And they're not even making any real headway with the stuff either. So virtually they're ruining things for everybody over nothing. Nothing but ego and greed that is. We all know that's what drives these hackers these days anyways. Doing pointless stupid sh!t just so they can say "hey, lolz look what i did yo". That and so they can be cheap and game for free. I always love the "hacking doesn't necessarily mean pirating games" argument. While true, piracy is the reason for hacking like 90% of the time, especially when it comes to stuff like consoles.

[Dellis]

LOL at the people who updated, now it is really going to get nice

Emulation on PS3 would be great, Piracy as in DL ps3 games not so much

maybe when PS4 comes out or something but piracy is not worth it on

PS3 at all, it has not games and if they do they are too big.

[Redempteur]

have fun waiting for that "exploit" to produce results

[Brklynty1]

Yea ok, they're gonna make that exploit that allows emulators to run on the PS3, yea, I wouldn't hold your breath while waiting if I were you.

[HaloReachGOTY]

This is great NEWS and maybe one day when ps3 is completely Hacked i might just get a ps3.

[Lionhead]

Stupidity at it's finest

[Da One]

the psp is the prime example of what happens when piracy completely wrecks everything

Devs abandon the system(3rd parties especially)
Game releases are far and few in between

[Meryl]

that explains why x360 and wii have no games worth getting at the moment lol

[caffman]

my wallet says different

[awesomeperson]

Fing hackers stop. They've caused enough damage already.

[onenut]

now we won't have to wait on sony for some new features
crack this sh!t wide open boyz
woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ReBurn]

Page is dead. Too much traffic I guess.

If it's true then it just goes to show that removing the ability to run Linux in a hypervisor isn't going to stop piracy. But that shouldn't be any surprise to anyone.

[Arksine]

Most likely these hackers used a similar technique that geohot used to gain access to the hypervisor, which required access to Linux. So while hackers are able to dump v3.15, they will not be able to dump future revisions of the OS.

That was the explicit reason Sony removed the OtherOS feature. They already knew 3.15 could be compromised, and I doubt that its any shock to them that its been dumped. But hackers are going to need to find a new way to dump future revisions of the OS, which will certainly contain countermeasures to any exploits found in 3.15.

[ReBurn]

Having dumped GameOS could be helping to make custom firmware a reality, which means that it might not matter what Sony does with future updates.

Sony has been ahead of the piracy curve with the PS3 all along, but I fear the tide may be turning against them. What's bad about it is that we're in the crossfire.

[nevimkdojsem2]

This only shows how important is was to remove the OtherOS - they only managed to dump GameOS through OtherOS.

Anyway, not very useless so far and still far away from custom firmware and the ability to play backup games. Being able to disassemble the standard GameOS is something totally different than replacing it with your own - in order to use your own version of GameOS you'd have to digitally sign it. Plus you still need the hardware hack (FPGA board) + otherOS.

[jjesso1993]

god these have to be the stupidest hackers going why the hell would they not just send it around private scenes after seeing what sony did to otheros no one is going hack ps3 when they are sending there methods to sony.

[sharif699]

i doubt they're releasing everything they do

[GrilledCheeseBook]

well the whole blu-ray problem to run pirated games is negated if you are able to run it off a HDD

[Figboy]

oh...trolls...

*hunts for air spray*

[ScrappyDoo]

I just smell off topic and damage control.

[Will-UK]

If they exploit it sony will have to issue a security update in a new firmware.

[Pillage05]

umm, isn't this highly illegal. Like distributing a copy of windows 7 over the internet illegal. I think sony has already proven they aren't gonna take any sh1t from the hacking community, why would you even risk it?

[Colonel-Killzone]

I will still be a faithful consumer like i was last generation in the PS2 era and i will assume real ps3 owners will do the same.

[Dtoxz]

Because if they can make a homebrew for ps3 that means it might run emulators. I would actually go buy another ps3 to do this on so I can run some old classic games that I have a hard time finding.

Could you guys imagine playin TMNT in Time or Donkey Kong Country.... How about a lil' Killer Instinct?!

ONLY reason to do this would be the emulators for really old systems. I support the video game industry 100% otherwise.

[Theonik]

What's sad is that you could already do that on Linux. There were linux emulators that a variety of 2D systems. (seeing as on Linux in PS3 you only have 2D access to the GPU)

[madpuppy]

If you are patient and don't mind waiting a little while, every game will drop in price to the point that pirate games are just not worth it. I mean c'mon! what is 60.00 now will eventually be 25.00 down the line and eventually end up in a bargain bin for 5.00 to 15.00.

I can wait if I can not afford a game or I feel a game isn't worth the the price.

[respn]

Maybe Sony will be removing the PS3 OS with the next update? :)

[jjesso1993]

to dtoz
what I dont understand is why some people see the need to run emualtors om ps3 on any consoles why would people not want to this on there more enabled pc or laptop i just dont see the point can some one explain that it just sounds so stupid

madpuppy your maths dont makes sence with wii games or ps2 games it cost about £15 for 100 disc thats 100 games depending on odd coaster some wii games being dl like the 360 cost about £15 25 disc so piracy is cheaper with my 360 jtaged it dose not cost me anything just 1tb hdd most games i get about week before you get them.

[Theonik]

Well i run emulators on my PC too and they are much better and worthwhile. The real advantage of doing it on a console is being able to do it on the same machine you would regularly play games and doing it on the TV without the need for a laptop. Other than that there are ways to use a DS3 on PC so that is not an argument.

[Dtoxz]

I got a hacked psp but mainly because I'd love to play it on my tv in the highest resolution possible! I think it would be great to run it off of the xmb and play with my favorite controller (dualshock3) and would literally spend the money to buy another ps3 and put the old schoool emulators on it.

Time and time again, I have played these games wishing that the controller was better. Super NES, NES, Genesis. Although they were good the PS3's controller is PERFECT.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like piracy all that much and really try not to support it. But when you can go through hell to find stuff that isn't really available and/or reliable, then its just easier to pirate it.

As far as pirating stuff that Sony is making money on, HELL NO. I support that part of the gaming industry 100%.

[sashimi]

By the time a workable CFW is released for the Ps3...alot of games would be in the Greatest Hits and $30 section...or near the time of the Ps4.

[OrganicMachine]

needs to get shot in the back of the head after being raped at prison

they're the reason why these publishers are creating this sh!tty DRMs and stupid Security measures that Fvcks up the people who buys their products more than the pirates..

[jay2]

PS3 now has 6 months.

[taga7a]

You guys see what happens when Sony wants to mess with people? They remove the option to run "other os" They expect everybody to upgrade to FW 3.21

Then a few days later (now) the hypervisor LV2 was dumped. The so called hackers were already messing with the hypervisor since January and do they think a simple firmware update released on april fools day will stop them?

"The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update."

uhhh yeah.....

[Brklynty1]

Chances are....they did it on non updated consoles! Meaning if you update, which like 90% of the smart PS3 owners did, you won't be able to do it. People aren't gonna risk not being able to log on PSN for emulators like GBA,who the f*ck still plays that sh!t?

[gunnar2906]

in discussion at JaCraB blog someone mathieu wrote something smart that makes me feel that it all is a big fake >>> his post was deleted.
I bet it is just another faulty attempt to become famous &&& BS
He wrote

As to demonhades you should not let him be your spokeman, he speaks about networks, claiming Aaron's dns could be used to sniff psn ids and passwords, yet he knows nothing about networks at all, you should know that sniffing packets using dns is unlikely unless someone redirects the ip to a server of his chosing, even so then the psn auth (and pretty much everything related to the psn and the store) is encrypted using https. Unless Aaron suddently got both the psn server and the ps3 certificates, I hardly see how he is going to sniff any passwords....

And that is absolutely true. I tried to do the same and do confirm his words. What about guys - they are just too illiterate to take em seriously

[Hatemaker]

and so the war starts...

[hash01]

Wow, these rotters really will go a long way to not pay for software.
Cheap skates.

[karan8624]

So with the quantom theory of relativity factored in with a hyperqaluanator then pi = -4

Is what I got from this article. WTF does this mean?

[Lykon]

is this a psn download? has it got multiplayer?

[ScrappyDoo]

It only does hacking and removing features

[lh_swe]

No? It was like that when it came out the door!? really!?

[-IronMan-]

By the time they hack it Playstation 6 will be on the market.

[jameelinus]

"If it ain't broke, dont' fix it."

Like others, I'm not up to download 20+ gigs to play a PS3 exclusive.

MGS4 is 50gbs. That's like $15 now.

I won't support the hackers.

[ImmortalLegend]

Am I wrong for actually wanting an emulator or something of that nature? Nothing big, just a PS2 emulator or some way for me to be able to play PS2 games that I own on my PS3. And no, I don't want to buy a PS2 lol.

[Omega Zues]

The new fancy way of saying "Piracy".

[AngryTypingGuy]

I guess it's OK to pirate anything Microsoft, but we should buy all of our Sony products to support them, right? You hypocrites. One day, you'll realize that competition benefits us all.

[lh_swe]

And I don't condone it on any system and I don't do it on any system (unless its a rare game I can't find anywhere or I have already bought it but the disk broke) but it's annoying that an innocent system has just been violated by the big shaft known as piracy which'll likely hurt the PS3 like it's been hurting the 360 & PC & Wii.

[slamdrink]

I advocate no form of theft. The system upon which it occurs is irrelevant. While I do agree that competition improves production in the long run (capitalistically speaking), theft only improves one market: security. Those who steal games only improve the security of the games that follow the stolen game, not the games themselves.

To the point, if someone robbed your house, would you replace the items removed with really neat stuff that other people want, or would you install a better (or any) security system (e.g. buy a gun, install a/some camera(s), get a big dog, etc.)? The same mentality exists in game production: "You gonna steal _my_ sh**? Okay, well I was gonna make it better but instead...try stealin' this, b****!

[s45gr32]

My biggest issue is that hackers pretty much ruined PC gaming in the sense that these fools were the reason why DRM exists. If game developers start selling games at affordable prices like $20 or $40.00 then maybe hackers would stop hacking. Now streaming movies which is something I am addicted to now is good in the sense that these movies are backed up by a myriad of commercials. So the commercials or advertisements pay for the movie.................... Not once have I hack a game but man I love those game emulators of game consoles of yesteryear.

[Subzero200x]

why waste time ps3 has no real games anyway.

[Meryl]

yeah in 2005 when it was not even released you troll, btw no one wants x360 anymore and wii is gimped lol.
The PS3 has the following games for delusional fanboys who think otherwise: Uncharted 1&2, Ratchet & Clank Series, Resistance Series, Killzone, MGS4, Infamous, FF XIII, ROF, WKC, VC, GOW III, Heavy Rain, LBP, and my list can keep on going on but I'll shut up now lol.
What does x360 have oh right halo, how exciting and totally predictable.
What does wii have, same as usual mario and zelda games, with the new addition of casual games like wii fit and wii sports and graphics from the 90's to boot.

[Meryl]

I wonder how many PS3's will get bricked instaling new CFW if it ever comes out, I remember when the psp when it first got cfw, lot's of psp's was bricked, now that is one expensive way of having pirated games if you ask me

[spinbot_lv1]

I will be very satisfied when I'll see people crying for their ps3 bricked or unable to play on-line after installed sh*tty homebrew software. Hackers and pirates steal the work of others.they are thieves.

[slamdrink]

be aware of the difference between a "hacker" and a "cracker". "hackers" are programmers dedicated to understanding how things work, and without them, you wouldn't have any games to play. "Crackers" are those who seek to break software encryption, bypass security within programs, and make piracy possible. Beyond that, I agree with your comment.

[DORMIN]

It will take you months to download one exclusive game. LOL

[onenut]

what if the create a loader and it allows us to put the disk in the system and extract a game to the hdd, how many months would it take to extract a game to hdd you think?
crack this sh!t wide open boyz!!!

[ThaGeNeCySt]

not really... it took around 40 minutes for me to download an 8 gb file... given the same circumstances, it can take around 4 hours and some change to download a 50 gb file. Not saying everyone has access to those speeds, but 4 hours is feasible for a 50 gb file.. not months.

[PietroDimeglio]

these guys need to die.
Peace.

[kewlkat007]

Sweet!

[Scenarist]

Let the hackers hack ... its better for the world...
maybe not immediately but its a back and forth game that pushes for advancement

other than that.. people are talkin about kill or lock the hackers up?

well let ye who has no sin throw the first stone...

or should we lock everyone on the planet up?

[galgor]

this may be the only way I get to play Shenmue on PS3! Work your magic hackers =]

[altimako02]

the only thing keepink the ps3 from being hacked was the suport of linux , now those extreme hackers will have the ps3 fully hacked within months

[Games4M - Rob]

I just wouldnt risk it, far too much money down the pan if it goes wrong.

[themyk]

i love my jailbroken iphone.

thats all i have to say.

[dabri5]

How do you feel about renting/ borrowing a game from someone, then copying it directly to your PS3 hard drive directly from the PS3 itself? I would assume this would be the best option in regards to backing up games and playing them off the hard drive. The wii does this now and so did the original xbox.

[griff2]

the PS2 with a suitably fitted internal hard drive (via the add on Ethernet port)..

[TheDesperadoKING]

Lol @ these losers crying for attention