Greenberg: Publishers 'struggle' on Wii

Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg has claimed that third party publishers "have struggled" on Wii - and that Xbox 360 has the "best development tools" of any console.

[Omega4]

"People know we're a software company, we have the best tools and internal support; and second, people who buy Xbox 360 buy a lot of games."

Can't argue with them facts. No wonder so many publishers are supporting Natal.

@mrv321
Natal is new obviously its installbase won't be large to begin with but the reason why devs are making games for it is because they know MS will sell millions of units.

The launch games for Natal wont't cost that much to make anyway since they have only been in development for about a year to publishers won't be losing much money

"I guarantee that more PS3 games will support motion controls than Natal by the end of year"
Considering the majority of the games will just be currently released games with motion tacked on I wouldnt be surprised.

You obviously haven't played zelda, mario or metroid on the Wii ,play those games and if you still think motion controls suck then you opinion will actually be valid.

[mrv321]

Supporting Natal? I guarantee that more PS3 games will support motion controls than Natal by the end of year... I'm almost 100% certain of that.

Microsoft is a soft were company it's not like they'll advertise their other hardware work... cough the 360. The funny thing is that the maths proves Natal to be less profitable for developers.... seeing as it's going to be difficult for Natal user-base to outgrow that of the 360. How many NATAL's do you think will sell this Christmas? I don't think it'll reach the 5 million marks, your then cutting your user-base to 1/8 by making your game Natal exclusive.

If I was a developer I wouldn't support Move or Natal exclusively, I'd allow my games to be played on the controller with optional Natal support which raises an interesting thing...

If you make your game Natal exclusives you'll cut sales by a lot, costing money.
If you make your game Natal and Controller then you have a problem, the Natal add-ons will HAVE to be tacked on or the controller only players will feel left out, that really destroys the point of Natal
If you make your game Controller exclusive... you erm... your fine.

Motion controllers almost EXCLUSIVELY suck, they are not accurate enough and not responsive enough, I've yet to see Natal in an online game and that worries me because that's the main selling point of the 360 and the reason I bought one, so for a add-on not to be live compatible ON the 360 is going to fairly stupid.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

You may find yourself wishing that developers could just "tack on" motion controls for Natal to already existing games, too.

I don't mean that as a knock on Natal, just that Move makes it very easy to have games that work either way without making sacrifices.

[Eddie20101]

The game sales thing is subjective. Microsoft has more game systems on the market in the US that's whey they sell more games than Sony in the US and is usually just the FPS games that do better. Based on percentage of consoles on the market for Sony and Microsoft, Sony probably selling just as many games as Microsoft.

[Bigpappy]

How is it bashing other consoles when you are talking about why you believe your product will succeed despite being late to the part. These facts support his argument. PS3 fanboys are like corrupt politicians (just attack everything the outside has to say, even if they are all facts). Greenberg could say: UC2 was game of the year 2009, and the PS3 N4G fanboy would disagree and say that he is bashing PS3. This is what it has come to here on N4G.

[mrv321]

First party studios struggle with Microsoft.

* ACES Game Studio: Microsoft Flight Simulator series, Combat Flight Simulator series and Microsoft Train Simulator series. Closed on January 23, 2009 in a process of ongoing job cuts due to Financial crisis of 2007–2010.
* Ensemble Studios: Age of Empires series, Age of Mythology, Halo Wars. Disbanded on January 29, 2009.
* Carbonated Games: Developed for MSN Games and Windows Live Messenger. Disbanded on March 27, 2008.
* Digital Anvil: Brute Force, Freelancer. Disbanded on January 31, 2006.
* Hired Gun: Halo 2 for Windows Vista. Disbanded in October 2007.
* FASA Studio: MechWarrior series. Disbanded on September 12, 2007.
* Indie Built: Amped series, Links series, Top Spin series. Sold off to Take-Two Interactive in October 2004, now disbanded.

I actually made up that list... oh no, regardless of what you think people lost their jobs and as such Microsoft first parties have suffered.

[Hellsvacancy]

Hes such an idiot man y does he do it 2 himself, i bet he was bullied at school

[00]

you're going to call someone and idiot it's best you spell properly.

[kvg88]

If you're going to point out someone's spelling mistakes, be sure to mind your own first! :D Seriously, that is a lame attempt at trying to "pwn" someone. Dig deeper.

[Hellsvacancy]

I think every mofo on N4G knows by now thats the way i type my words, i DO know the difference, it makes me unique, u dont honestly think i type like that at work do ya

[Traylor4]

The more this guy speaks, the more he comes off as an absolute idiot!!! Why not just promote M$, and make it better for it's fan base.

[Denethor_II]

I want all of the Microsoft corporations photos; they just look so happy and full of life.

[kvg88]

who cares what he says?

The Wii's 2010 lineup is looking strong, why the need to diss?

[Anarki]

Really? Mario, Zelda and Metroid? This is exactly what is released every damn year, a Mario game, a Zelda game and a Metroid game.

Nintendos lack of originality is staggering.

[kvg88]

yes, yes it is lol

[Seekerofthewind]

And Xenoblade. And The Last Story. And NBA Jam. And Monster Hunter Tri. And Flingsmash (looks fun as hell). And Epic Mickey. And Red Steel 2. And possibly Zangeki no Reginleiv ported over here. And Tales of Graces. And possibly Dragon Quest X. And Trauma Team. And Sin and Punishment 2. And whatever else is planned the second half of the year.

Yeah, totally just Mario, Metroid, and Zelda.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

@6.1
What about HALO?

[Biggest]

NBA Jam? Dude. Really? Dude.

[Bumpmapping]

And the only engine that can run on it is UE3.It'z soo easy too developz for LOL!

[HDgamer]

Best tools lol, Project Natal is aimed not just to kids but for grown men who love them too.

[dalibor]

Having entertainment doesn't always come with a required age. Look at hot wheels, some adults collect them. Same goes for action figures/legos. And what about grown ups dressing up as Santa? Kinda childish but it's all in good fun. I am willing to bet though that Natal and Move probably would not be for me. It all depends on the games really. We shall find out. It's all about the games and price in my situation.

[HDgamer]

I'm stating that pedophiles will love Milo.

[dalibor]

You have a point there. Miss understood your intentions. The question is why isn't there a female version of Milo?

[sikbeta]

Damn it HDgamer, that's So Wrong.... lol

[Anarki]

Though, I disagree with everything this guy says, except for the Wii 3rd party support.

They really have themselves to blame - they make stupid, sports games for the Wii. What is the point in keep making the same game? they're all basically the damn same with motion controls?

[zgamer623]

also, prior to the red steel 2 commercials, when was the last time you saw an ad for a 3rd party wii game? How do they expect games to sell when they don't advertise on television?

[theunleashed64]

the xbox 360 has the "best development tools" of any console.

uh didn't know april fools was still continuing?

[sweettooth]

R.I.P Greenberg

[XBOX360 HAS NO GAMES]

But yet 360 has no games

[Monk3y]

haha i can see that (unfortunately) on my mind.

Milo: "Hello what do you want to do today?"
Pedo: "Milo please suck my ^%&#"
Milo: "Okay sir"

[TANUKI]

Nintendo and Sony must unite against the BERG!

[bjornbear]

i don't know about the best though..

[DarkBlood]

and that pic makes him look like he just got his grade 12 photo taken

[Biggest]

Isn't that the Aqua background? My son JUST used that same background for his 2nd grade class photos.

[xaviertooth]

360 is struggling. fact.

[eagle21]

So that's why Mistwalker ditched 360 for the winning team: Wii. :)

[tyrex]

if they had more first party studios then maybe this guy wouldn't have to talk so much. let someone else talk about the 360.

[Brklynty1]

Yet you can't even get your games to run in HD? Yet developers are starting to use the PS3 as the lead platform? Yes with those "best" development tools, 360 only has 'pew pew' games in its library?

And @ 1., lmfao funniest sh!t I heard all week.

[Theoneneo81]

greenburg STFU

[Dance]

Its the truth though

[Demarco156]

"Over 70 per cent of third parties that are selling games today are actively making games for Project Natal,"

i love ms they can lie and get way with it

[Justin_bristoe]

....xbug just speaks off the top of his head lol

[tinajacobs1222]

Sounds bout right

[Enigma_2099]

... you stay classy, Greenburg.

... chump.

[rezzah]

OMg what is this fatass going on about now!? He does nothing but talk. Talk is cheap.

[Pedobear Rocks]

to stop opening his trap about other companies and should stick to being positive about his own. He seems to do nothing but present MS in a bad light.

[lizard81288]

i can't see natal doing good. i'd say sony would have the upper hand, since you can use a normal controller or the move/arc thing too.

nintendo uses the wii very well, however 3rd parties don't. lol, lets make imagine babyz!!!it well sell millions!!! ಲ_ಲ
well there are the few that make good wii games, like capcom. MHT and TvC are excellent games. but they are few and far between

unless M$ does something, then i can't see my interest being raised. at e3 i'm hoping to see what the 3DS is all about, then its whats at sony's camp and how move/arc will work. and M$ has an eye toy...

[poopnscoop]

That's cuz Wii is garbage, duh

[Michael-Jackson]

360 struggles to have any real exclusives.

[FxckOSX]

crappy hardware

[Eddie20101]

@Den_UK

"I want all of the Microsoft corporations photos; they just look so happy and full of life."

Looks fat and full of Shiiiott to me. Like he went into a pet store and ate a cage full of canary's. Like the chubby little devil that sits on peoples shoulders. Like the assshat corporate fanboy he is.