ElectricPig:
Like so many FPS titles this facet of Bioshock 2 is arguably what keeps hardcore fans coming back for more once the single-player campaign is done and dusted. Developer 2K Games clearly subscribes to this opinion as well because the first dollop of DLC-goodness is with us and it's focused entirely on expanding the scope of online play.
However, those expecting a dramatic change are going to be disappointed; there are no new maps and the storyline which underpins the multiplayer remains firmly in place. Set in Rapture circa 1959, the online mode sees the player assuming the role of a splicer – a human who has become addicted to DNA-bending Plasmids – and the ensuing online death matches are supposed to represent the cataclysmic civil war which triggers the events of the original game.
This afternoon, we learned that 2K Games' BioShock 2 DLC will be next week's Xbox Live Deal of the Week. If you were on the proverbial fence about downloading some Rapture themed goodness, perhaps a huge drop in price will convince you.
John Artest (RunDLC)
yes it is, its amazing, my favourite venture to Rapture so far,
5/6 hours of immersive, narrative driven gameplay for a measly £6? ($10) bargian!!
Wow...that does sound tempting. I think I will check that out. Wouldn't mind another 6-10 hours of BioShock 2 SP. Thanks! :)
Too bad Minervas den isnt on sale for PS3 today. Would love to get it. Rather enjoyed bioshock 2.
it deosnt need a sale, it a steal anyway they could have gotten away with 1200 MSP easy
It still would be nice for it to be on sale though, why pay more when you can pay less. On a side note i bought it for 10 bucks last night lol. It truly is awesome
Binge Gamer writes: Let's put the nail in the coffin over this 'downloadable content on the disc issue' that becomes a topic time and time again.
The issue here isn't if DLC is a good thing or not, take that argument elsewhere. The issue here isn't if charging for DLC is a good thing or not, again, take that elsewhere. This is ONLY about the content of the "DLC" already on the disc of the game you own. So to access the content of the disc you own, you have to pay more money, this is it.
Scamcom and Scamco are the main victims. Seriously shouldnt it be against to law to charge you for something already on disc. If this was a blu-ray or dvd movie and the companies charged you extra for a deleted scene they would get sued.
Stop bending over then.
DLC trend came in due to fanbois thinking they are getting a good deal.
Originally the trend started by none other then Microsoft (we all know microsoft is known for its milking attitude toward its base).
Fanbois thought its great since PC or PS3 users arent getting it, hence they supported it.
Now its gotten to a point where dlc (DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT) is present on the disc(how is content present on the disc, called DOWNLOADABLE? its just beyond me).
Bottom line stop supporting it, even if its microsoft having something exclusive released for the 360 or Sony doing something for the PS3. Keep the fanboisim aside for the moment will be better for the entire gaming community.
When development costs are not over costly, and understand what I mean is that it took too long to develop. Then, it should have just been released without something, and then continually developed after that for DLC. But making the game ready with current development costs, and applying use of it later, just seems like you're being double dipped. That second dip, always has a little dirt on it, no matter how little of a dip you take.
Anyway, that's why I don't buy a lot of DLC. I just don't like it.
@champ21
Agreed , all started with apologists and their "if you dont like it , you dont have to buy it " , and even worse apologists : fanboys .
choices , if you dont like it dont buy it ? yeah right ....
By happily accepting the trend to begin with , you slowly forced everyone's hand , as predicted from the very beginning .
If you actually have friends , and you all play a particular fps , and then come along a map pack , what are you going to do ? Be tossed aside with the old map lists while everyone you know switched to new ones ?
If you are a soccer or any other sport fans , and the only ways for you to have updated stats and rosters , are to spend days in horribly (and on purpose so) designed edit mode , or to buy a season stats dlc ? what will you do ?
The dice are now so rigged that you would only skip dlcs for single player games , and then you are cheated out of the full and original game .. for ome BS about developpement cost or time issues .
Basically consoles manufacturers and devs , took the greatest aspect of PC gaming , the ability to patch , and turned it into a business , without even giving us at least modding options , in most cases .
That truly is the one ugly aspect of current console gaming .
@Baka Akab
I been gaming on PC for more then 15years now. Dont own any of the consoles.
I belive devs are using consoles as a way of taking away freedom. Since PC was the only platform to support online gaming things were free and no one controlled it, users made content as a pashion new ideas were evolving all the time.
When online came to consoles, it was new for many people. On the PC it would have been outrageous if we were asked to pay to go online or get charged for additional content(now called DLC). Since all of this was new for the console industry it was taken advantage of.
Now all we have are greedy developers trying to control the market by consolising the market.
Its no secret that consoles can support modding, PS3 proved that with UT, however due to greed devs will not allow such freedom on their games. Its one of the reasons id always be a PC gamer, asides the superior quality on all the games.
it's no secret consoles makers always want to control their market .
It is just particularly ugly this gen and now splashing everywhere .
I cannot follow you however , on the so called superior quality of PC games .
I see that argument on a now daily basis from rather insecure pc only players ... and they need to move on from it .
People dont buy consoles hoping or thinking they are superior to pc , on a technical level . They follow games that arent available at all on pc (just like some pc games are exclusives) , and additionally can play pc/consoles multiplatform games in a way they feel cheaper or easier to them (at least at first glance) .
Constantly going on about inferior consoles version of a same game , isnt helping the pc cause ... it would be rather silly if it wasnt , and well any kid can log and rightfully say , "who cares ? it's not like you got GoW 3.." :p
But i diverge ... screw dlcs .
I also dont believe it wouldnt made its way on PC as well . it was no secret that PC publishers often tried to take freedom back , way before the current consoles .
Hell that was and still is basically the reason for mmo subscriptions , when clearly many alternative free models existed and exist .
@champ21 - The DLC trend can be traced back to the PC. All expansions are a version of what we now call DLC. The only difference is that expansions were sold on a disc. Both offer the same thing though, additional game content for a price. So, this isn't something that's been brought on by console gaming; console gaming just made it more popular. It would have hit the PC market eventually, regardless of what the consoles were doing.
Yup that's again even why publishers jump into the mmo trend with frenzy .
They are more than happy to limit pc gamer's freedom for greed as well
@Dac2u
Agreed we always had Expansions, however expansions were seperate games. It wasnt like it was present on the same disc.
Also we were always given freedom to mod our games, increase a games life by making custom maps.
My point is console gamers should stand up, ask for dedicated servers, ask for mod capabilities. why not? after all games sell so well on consoles. No point paying devs for every map pack released.
As for the MMOs on the PC, its the cheapest form of entertainment one can get. Take the example of an MMO like WOW, it gets constant updates which are all free new content. Normally when one plays an MMO they dont buy any other game. People get hooked on it for months maybe years. To some it might sound outrages to be playing the same game for so long, however on a cost basis its the cheapest form of entertainment you can get. Its certainly cheaper then getting 1-2 games a month.
What a pile of horse do-do...Picked up Bioshock 2 recently, cost a pretty penny ( $80 )...now I find out DLC is on the Disc but we have the pleasure of paying for it...They are only hurting their fan base by doing this...worse...If you like the game, you will have to buy it...Sad but true...greed has no bounds...
Is there a list of developers that have done this in the past...Interested in seeing that...
The only DLC i ever bought was for Burnout Paradise
i REFUSE to buy map packs
Originally those things were given to encourage ppl to keep playng a game. The game was kept alive and hence encouraged new customers over a longer time period.
@cez of rage
There was a list being compiled at one point http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Unfortunately it was during a time when most did not really grasp what was going on (and I still think that is happening today, people see this as an issue of 'is DLC good or bad' or 'should DLC be free'.. which are both separate discussions that have nothing to do with the DLC being on the disc).
Im fine with DLC additional content.
But... I think we can all agree that charging money to access additional data thats already on the disc you just paid £40 is just plain disgusting and hopefully the law will clamp down on this as wrong.
I wouldnt buy any game that does this.
Agreed. I just don't see the logic of 'holding' back content.
If they worked on it after the game was published, i may be inclined to buy it.. but tough luck..
I only bought 1 DLC and I regret doing so.. CoD4 map pack lol
Now I just get my DLC free w/ competition from playstation.com
I just got free K2 map pack from PSblog <3
The first instance of this I can remember was Scamco Bandai doing it with Beautiful Katamari. It was bullshit then, and it's bullshit now. One of the scummiest ways DLC is abused.
Bandai is defintly one of the worst when it comes to dlc
Character's dlc for a fighting game ? way to destroy balance ! ( soul calibur 4 )
Dlc levels points and skills points for an rpg ? ( tales of vesperia ? )
Let's not forget Idolm@ster dlc overdose.. with each character UNABLE to reach some place( status ) without the dlc .. ( this is something that should have been in the game ).
But not so far is ubisoft ... the ending of prince of persia as dlc ? ( why do you put the ending for your game in dlc ?)
Assasin creed 2 dlc missions to actually cut the story WHEN it GET AWESOME just to milk this ... as much as i enjoyed the game that move was so dirty i sweared i'll never buy the dlc ..
Even if i dislike capcom street fight 4 dlc , at least the game is complete without it but then again i'm reminded of resident evil 5 "versus mode " ...At least this is somewhat forgotten since they releaased the recent missions pack that were actual TRUE dlc ...
I agree. What Crapcom did with the Resident Evil 5 DLC was the scummiest move in all of gaming history in my opinion really. That is basically theft. They also had the nerve to charge gamers for the activation key...seriously??? nar i mean SERIOUSLY???
I'm just glad i didn't buy that pos. I couldn't live with myself knowing i'm giving my money to such scum. Glad i skipped on FF13 also. That was just a mediocre mess.
u got me LMAO.
Look at what they doing with Super Street fighter 4 telling everybody its big an update to make it just DLC. Now the Turtle Fighter 4 fans are going to bítch about how sport games no different.
I'd get lots of disagrees, but I believe Capcom is only accused by fault.
The versus mode was a new game mode (as name suggests), requiring minimal amount of art assets, but mainly software code. It was several hundreds of KB, but for a reference Diablo 2 main game DLL is only 1MB (that's an entire game!).
Maybe what they should've done would be including an extra map, which would increase the size to 100MB+, then people would not complain.
In before some loser comes and says "bu bu but it's ok i don't care, i'd buy every dlc. doesn't matter if it's on the disk i'll pay more for gimped content". lol
You know someone will be here saying such nonsense.
