Modern Warfare 2 Players Flocking to Battlefield Bad Company 2

Industry Gamers: For the past several months DFC Intelligence has been reporting on the usage of Xbox 360 games through monitoring plays registered by the GamerDNA audience on Xbox Live. In November we charted the overwhelming dominance of Activision-Blizzard's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. In early February we charted Electronic Arts' January launch of Mass Effect 2 and how it cast a large shadow over all other January releases. Later that month in an article in the DFC Dossier, we noted how Modern Warfare 2 was still the leading game played on Xbox Live through its third month in release, showing little to no cannibalization by February launches such as Bioshock 2, Dante's Inferno or Aliens vs. Predator.

On March 2, Electronic Arts released Battlefield: Bad Company 2, the latest installment in the long running and successful series originally launched on PC in 2002 with Battlefield 1942. While a different game than Modern Warfare 2, with its own nuances and gameplay mechanics rooted in the Battlefield brand, Bad Company 2 is widely considered the closest match to Modern Warfare 2 in setting, concept, art style and general game design in both single and multiplayer components. With that in mind DFC has explored how these games compare on Xbox Live among the GamerDNA audience.

[-Alpha]

There's like 3 shades of annoying blue lol.

But good to see gamers leaving that wretched game. Only way IW can win guys like me back is if they actually start making gameplay tweaks but seeing as they are too busy trying to stop hacks and glitches it doesn't seem likely. I'm moved on, and soon Halo Reach will dominate XBL. Good bye MW2, you failed to deliver.

Not that IW cares, they've been very successful.

Also, how is this information gathered? is it based on who is registered to the GamderDNA website? because that's sampling-- I know MW2 is still going strong, so I'm not sure how accurate this chart is.

[deadreckoning666]

I LOVE BC2 and its much more satisfying than MW2, but I wish DICE would enable a patch to put some sway for sniping. Sniping in BC2 is TOO easy and many people are taking advantage of that. BC2 is the best shooter I've ever played but there can be improvements that I'm certain DICE will make in the future.

[-Alpha]

It's definitely not perfect, and I agree that DICE needs to fix some stuff:

-make flag capturing more meaningful for Conquest
-Add some damn sway for snipers, I completely agree
-Proximity chat, or team chat. Squad chat sucks
-Ability to create multiple squads in a party
-More private party options like in MW2

Overall great game, but those are annoyances I'm having

@haqshot

I somewhat agree with that. There's a large amount of hate for MW2 that's not always entirely fair. However, if this chart is correct, and I am not entirely convinced it is, then it serves IW right for making a dreadful game IMO

@milo

Thanks, and I agree completely about revives lol. I think medics need a slight nerf with their LMGs too. It's too damn accurate with the x4 scope that it can outsnipe snipers and its hipfire is amazingly accurate. Not to mention that the M60 is ridiculously overpowered too: attach magnum ammo and you can kill in 2-3 shots. ridiculous!

[haqshot]

This article is one giant TROLL.

Regardless of your hatred/love for MW2, the game remains staggeringly popular. I don't play MW2 or BF, however it's pretty clear that this article is only meant to stir up fanboy comments.

[MiloGarret]

Agreed, great post + bubble.

Overall I think they should bump up the rewards for playing as a team, too many play it like it's just deathmatch with little to no consideration of the flags and support functions.

Oh and for fück sake stop reviving me when a tank is staring at me. Adding a brief reload on reviving would be great. Otherwise these morons run around reviving everyone they see for no good reason besides the fact that they get a bunch of points and maybe a pin.

[joydestroy]

i wish more would jump to the PS3 version. i get on there lots of nights around 11pm EST and there will be one squad with 4 people, two squads with 2 people, and the last squad will have no one. it's just not fun imo when there's not at least 3 people on all squads.

[Rowsdower]

here is where party chat works out very well. on the 360 I'll have an entire team of friends and we use party chat and away we go.

great game regardless of platform.

[DelbertGrady]

Same as. Love the squad chat. Usually play with two friends. Communication is critical when you are trying to blow up a com station in rush mode.

[Elvfam511]

"Oh and for fück sake stop reviving me when a tank is staring at me."

That's a dumb medic lol

I think the gamers addicted to MW2 won't leave at all. BFBC2 sniping is fun and easy, but I rather be a medic.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I would be happy if they made squads bigger. I don't care for hearing a full team of mics sounding off during my play but having 2 more people on my squad to talk to would be nice.

I don't think being able to hear the whole team is good at all. If you guys don't like all the snipers then you should be playing the squad based game modes. Squad Rush, Squad Conquest and Squad Deathmatch are where it is at. These squad game mode seperate the BS campers from the real players.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I am all for switching games and placing blame. But I like to blame all the right people. And IW is not the total blame of MW2 issues. The internal problems with activision and IW relationship allows the MW2 issues to persist. And in the end we gamers suffer but DICE and EA win.

[WildArmed]

ugh. I hated Squad chat in the beta and demo.
If they had *press this button for team chat* i wouldn't mind.
But not being able to talk to ur team AT ALL is bullshit..

But i just got my limited edition copy today.
So as soon as my brother gets off his 8 hour ps3 gaming streak, i'll take bc2 for a ride for an hour or two.

On a side note: I was surprised how much MAG was like BC2.. I love MAG now and i hated the beta since phase 1.
Just recently made a Raven char.. just need people to play it with >.< Kinda sucks playing MP games w/o a party.

[BattleAxe]

I can't stand the "sway" when sniping in CoD. It should be like Killzone2 where the scope moves only if your hands are not steady and you move your Sixaxis controller (motion sensing), which would be more realistic.

[Fanb0y]

Well, an online shooter is not that fun if everyone there are really good.

We need to shoot wookies occasionally. These COD players will do for now.

[PaLaK-]

BFBC2 wasn't riding a hype train like MW2, and with GOW3/HeavyRain quality exclusives, and the holiday season over, and exam period arriving, these are just a few of the reasons people haven't flocked to BFBC2 on to the ps3/other platforms to some extent too. I don't have BFBC2 because I dont like big map shooters e.g. MAG/BFBC2 I prefer KZ2, but I dithced MW2 3 months ago in January, and here's another reason: all my friends are always on MW2 and since selling it I've never been able to play with them except on Fifa10! There are always going to be cod addicts and casuals who know nothing but cod, and too many of my friends unfortunately mw2 is the best game they've ever played :| oh well..

[Orange]

@Battleaxe:

I think the Killzone 2 sniping is brilliant. You can't keep the dualshock steady if explosions are going off thus causing your scope to sway, giving nice immersion coupled to the vibration.

It does open things up to a slight cheat by either turning off the vibration or using a sixaxis.

[HSx9]

I.W. is too busy counting their money to patch up a game that can't make them more than they have already.

[Mr Brownstone74]

i like squad chat too. it keeps the squads (usually) working together and you won't have an annoying little 9 year old yelling into their mic while some teammates are trying to play. and if those kids do end up in your squad it is easy to mute one person.

if there was a full team chat i think that would take away some of the reason in having squads. it is better to communicate with just your squad so you dont get confused as to who is telling who to do what.

[xplosneer]

Why don't they add team chat to the up or down d-pad when not in a vehicle, seeing as they're unused anyways? I'd like to be able to tell all those snipers to look at the crate I just armed, or maybe something else. It doesn't have to be all the time, just the option would be nice.

[jjohan35]

After playing BC2 on PS3 and PC, I prefer it on PC. The controls are a bit too heavy on the consoles in my opinion. I didn't mind Killzone's heavy controls, but I thought BC2 was a little too annoying. My only gripe with BC2 other than the controls on the consoles (not a problem on PC) is the overpowered snipers. Everyone ends up camping with snipers everywhere.

[ThanatosDMC]

Gamers should also flock to MAG. Just dont freaking shoot people that are highlighted blue that's a teammate! You need to be lv8 to get to Domination... you wont go back to other shooters.

^ lots of snipers and the noob tube (grenade laucher).

[scariiface]

in no way bc2 is better than cod mw just the people that hate the game says that. it is your fault the reason the developers are acting like that stop the dawm piracy and buy the games

[sak500]

I'm one of them gamers. I used to play MW2 any chance i could get some free time on hand and now haven't played it since bought BC2. Even though MW2 was quite fun in the days but was cheapend by the glitches/hacks people exploiting perk system, kill streaks etc. BC2 is really more like being in a war where running and gunning doesnt cut it you need to be in squad and work together to achieve your objectives. Also longer and requires perseverence.

Good job DICE which have provided consistent good quality MP games since BF:1942 back in circa2001. NOW how about remake of BF:Vietnam in HD using frostbite engine complete with the vehical radio playback of the 70s music like the original's.

[TheBand1t]

Dude, hell ya, BFV with Frostbite? I'd dig it.

[Inside_out]

MW2 a fantastic game... obviously giving gamers what they want...sales incredible...still play spec-ops in co-op...Article is a fail...MW2 has become a phenomenon...Can't wait for Cod WAW, Reach and KZ3 in the fall ( yes, shooters ) ...Wish it was from a different publisher tho...couple more wks till Splinter Cell Conviction then FINALLY...Alan Wake...

[tdrules]

I love that I get fresh meat that don't see the point of a repair tool when (quoted from a player recently) "why would I wanna repair vehicles when I can kill people?"

[Mr_Showtime1]

That's the kind of idiot I want to stay on CoD.

[tdrules]

tough.
they're mine now

[DelbertGrady]

I play as the engineer and it's hard to make a tank last for more than 10 seconds if no one is around to repair it. Or if I'm on the other team ;)

[BeaArthur]

As much as I hate MW2 and love BC2, these articles are getting old.

[jagstatboy]

Borderlands is awesome. If you haven't discovered it yet, do so now!

[ThanatosDMC]

It gets old fast though. Great game for co-op.

[iceman06]

I've gone through the game twice (2 different groups of friends) in co-op! Now, I just need to get them off of BFBC2 (which I love) and MAG so that we can tackle the DLC content. I have HIGH hopes for a sequel!!!

[Deputydon]

I'd rather have those people stay in MW2. They are usually just obnoxious and don't actually know how to play as a team, which is what BC2 is all about...

[Agheil]

but i still got it played it for a bit, its not worth what people hype it out to be but BFBC2 is my type game. I love how the maps are really large, there are vehicles and squads

[Memo-Xen x3100]

Left it on the store shelf without ever even picking it up. *badaching*(audience booos and throws tomatos) Thank you, thank you!!

[Jonas Brothers]

is such a glitch fest... glad there's BFBC2 and MAG to fill my shooter needs

[TehChef]

And for good reason; all these glitchers, boosters and cheaters should stay in the stinking cesspool known as Modern Warfare 2, while the rest of us actual gamers go and support the game that deserves its praise.

[ATi_Elite]

Like most PC gamers I avoided MW2 like the plague! I've been playing BC2 off and on for about a week ( I have a life you know) and I love it.
The PC already had an update that corrected some things and more to come.

Every game especially a game of this magnitude will have it's problems like last night i got sniped across the map by a hand gun. (i about broke my headphones)

But I felt a lot better 3 seconds later when I read the admins message

" Ballzout713 I hope you got your money's worth BANNED AIMbot x912c3"

I love the PC as all Haxors and glitches are dealt with with Extreme Prejudice by Admins.

BC2 is a beautiful game as I'm running it maxed out in full hd 1080p 4x AA and 8x Af getting a solid 45 to 50 FPS

This is an excellent game this is what MW2 should have been!! IW take notes.

[bjornbear]

no offense to anyone in specific, but there are so many "snipers that go to the end of the map and stay there" and, tbh, they are worst when they are on your team because they don't help very much most of the time =P

as well as "lone wolf's" that get themselves and team mates killed -_-

but they are picking up and i've had some awesome team gaming =D so its a matter of time for people to learn hw t work together again =)

good! the more the merrier! =D

[ATi_Elite]

Sorry buddy but I'm one of those snipers your referring to except I'm usually in the middle of the map camped out holding my KOA card and canteen making smores and telling ghost stories while taking headshots.

I waited till the patch to buy the game and some gamers are like in the officer class after 2 weeks and I was getting smoked so I had to do what I had to do to get some kills and some gear.

I'm back playing like an ARMY OF ONE NOW but at first it was bloody murder.

[macalatus]

@bjornbear,

Don't worry my fellow Sony gamer, as what my experience would dictate, the team with the most snipers is usually the team that loses in a Rush match.

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

[iceman06]

I don't mind snipers playing as decent scouts...calling out attackers and such. But, I have seen far too many that just hug the periphery and randomly snipe just to get experience. They don't really contribute to the surge...they just sit and kill 5-6 people in 15 minutes. Then...they have the gall to b!tch when we don't win!!!*LOL*

[corneliuscrust]

hope they patch in way more robust experience bonuses for actually sticking to objectives and for a team win. I love how in KZ2 if your team wins you gain a multiplier of 2 for your score.

[JussBlazn]

I've had BFBC2 since launch, these past few days I have been seeing a lot of new players. WELCOME TO BATTLEFIELD!

[AliTheBrit19]

Somehow I don't think Modern Warfare 2 has to worry too much LMAO

Seriously though why can't both games exist and gamers be happy.

I LOVE Modern Warfare 2, epic experience, although only Rank 35 since I dont have much time to play

I also loved Battlefield Bad Company 2, although just the single player, wasn't a big fan of the multi-player, but thats just me (I love Battlefield 1943 though)

[DirtyLary]

They don't have to worry. 99.5% of the people hating on MW2 already gave them their money. They thank you.

[evrfighter]

never got mine...DICE on the other hand got my money twice...

3x once I figure out which console I wanna buy it for.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I'm one of em. Nothing like some good teamwork and ways to counter camping.

[ultramoot]

What? Nooooo. We don't need losers and noobs from MW2 flocking to and ruining BC2 for us BF veterans.

[xg-ei8ht]

Dice.

Make ctf, pick up flag, and have to get to otherside of map. using vehicles. It's fun.

To be successful in this day and age, you have to mix it up. Keep it different. But also have some good old things going on.

Love the night maps.

[corneliuscrust]

I loved CTF in the desert combat mod for BF1942

[Blaster_Master]

I will admit, bad company 2 is a way better game. The vehicular combat alone makes it better then COD MW2. If you wanna migrate somewhere it should be to MAG. MAG is hands down the best shooter on the market. No lag, tons of variety, shooting mechanics are second to none, and most of all, its all about the team work. Ive had 60 kills in a game and still lost because my team couldn't manage to work together. Also, I just sold both copies of mw2 to gamestop and one of the things I got for that was cod4 and IMHO is a way superior game to MW2.

[ThanatosDMC]

60?! The highest i've killed was 56 with the tier 2 rifle. I wasnt the squad leader or anything... just pure headshots no grenades.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

So that's why there are so many run and gunners lately. :'/

I'm glad people are moving away though, just was playing On XBL over at my friends house. How terrible the game is just amazes me. It's all about who has the best connection and sees the other person first, not skill in Mw2.

Now we just need something to tell everyone to do their jobs in BFBC2, I hate it when people don't give out ammo/med kits.

Oh and Dice needs to fix their servers, I would love to play BFBC2 for more than a round without having to deal with a disconnection.

[Blaster_Master]

thats why I wont buy this game or any EA game thats online. They got some of the worst servers in the industry. But hey, its got less lag the MW does.

[matchgrade]

bad for the community. Keep those camping, knifing 'sploiters off our servers!

[shikwan]

after playing Bad Company 2 long enough to see it's just an arcade version of this sim. They both have a handful of maps but graphics are better on OF and the realism is beyond BC2, plus there's more usage to vehicles in OF!

It got laid to rest early due to all the hype for MW2! Now that everyone sees how glitched-out MW2 is, they should go back & re-evaluate OF...I almost gurantee they'll like it!

[ZILLA]

cmon mw2 noobs,get on BAAAD COMPANY 2 HARDCORE mode and get your head kicked in.i dare you!me and my squad need fresh meat

[ddurand1]

those players that left didnt trade in their copies of MW2, theyll be back.

[Gish]

Wish I could, anyone else up for grouping together and getting the 4 pack on Steam?

[PandaJenkins]

this is great to hear. BC2 makes MW2 look like total crap.

[ATi_Elite]

i posted a post then played BC2 for like 5 hours and worked as a team in rush and conquest. Working as a team is much funner and the game is awesome.

I even got killed when a house collapsed on me after reviving some team mates. Too bad i didn't get a medal for that but they got out and took care of business.

This game is the best, what a frighting and realistic experience when a bombed out building crumbles down on you. LOL

[Major Kanimo]

codmw2's singleplayer was like a movie and spec ops is even more intense when u play with a friend, but the online is shltty bfbc2 owns it in multiplayer there are some intense moments in the game

[KeiserSosay4788]

Bc2 really is better....the only thing that isn't probably the melee, even though it isn't realistic in mw2 at all. IMO, and don't hate please, the only game on current consoles that has a reliable melée is halo. I don't get ripped off nearly as often as other fps. I also couldn't get into mag... I played until platoon leader eligability and just quit out of frustration in the lack of teamwork.... I probably just had a few bad teams, but it pisses me off.... Plus the vehicles were kinda lame, especially compared to bf games, heck even earth defense force 2017...lol

[corneliuscrust]

similar experiences

[bviperz]

was always geared more for players that relished 'teamwork' more than 'kill count'. For me it's just more rewarding, even if the stupid little plant is stopping me FROM RUNNING FOR COVER FROM A MORTAR STRIKE! YOU GOT TO BE F-ING KIDDING ME! And yet I still jump back on every chance I get, because I find it so enjoyable to curse at my teammates even if they can't hear me. Which is why they only allow squads to talk to each other.

[Trroy]

If you look at BF:BC2 in MP (not SP) the textures, animations, even the level of detail on the models is downright terrible compared to MW2 -- heck, MAG is, frankly, a lot better looking, in MP, than BF:BC2 is.

Yet people dig BF:BC2. I think that's proof once you reach a certain level of graphical competance, its all about the gameplay.

Frankly, its kinda mysterious that people aren't migrating to MAG. Looks and plays better than BF:BC2 in MP. Its only the SP campaign that BC2 looks good in. The MP graphics downgrade for the game is pretty substantial.