Lens of Truth: Battlefield - Bad Company 2 Analysis

Lens of Truth writes, "The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte. This week the Lens of Truth staff puts that quote to the test because we finally got our chance to sit down and revisit Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3."

[kaveti6616]

Hold everything.

Edit: Okay, I guess I'll be going with the PS3 version. No major problems between the two versions. I just want to start buying most of my games for one console.

[champ21]

as expected.. ps3, xbox versions are simular. Infact if you didnt see the system it was running on you wouldnt be able to distinguish.

Now if you are looking for a version where you can truely see a difference then its on the PC. Dx11 1080(and beyond), 60fps+

though the game should be bought on the system where you ahve the most friends, since its MP.

[Oldsnake007]

Awesome sh*t doesnt even work

[WildArmed]

Awesome.
Game is the same on all plats.
I will pick it up for sure in the upcoming weeks.
No I won't name the platform ;)

[DelbertGrady]

I bought it for the 360! *runs for cover*

[PaLaK-]

It looks very similar on the xbox/ps3 so there's no point arguing over minor differences - single console owners will buy it on that console, and multi-console owners should just buy it on whichever console they have more friends on or prefer. Face the facts though - the pc version beats both of these graphically, and it was confirmed that the PC servers had more people on them than the PS3 or the Xbox. Before anybody says im a PC fan, I only use my PS3 for gaming, but I'm not so blind or dumb that I think every multiplat on the PS3 is superior. Having said that, the thing about PC gaming is every once in a while the graphics card and equipment needs to be changed, whereas the consoles have the same hardware yet the devs somehow make it better and better year on year with nothing extra.

[aCHU]

Haha nice move.. safety first. ;)

[Perjoss]

bottom line:
this game is incredible fun on any platform, DICE have raised the bar once again.

[kaveti6616]

Not that it matters, but what the hell did I get disagrees for?

[evrfighter]

http://7mtjgq.bay.livefiles...

consoles don't do this game justice

[Perjoss]

@ evrfighter

I'm usually the first to preach about PC gfx, but I must say this looks lovely on consoles also.

[Persistantthug]

I'd personally be a bit nervous to buy the XBOX version. I'd be a little nervous of the wear and tear considering the fragile state of the system.

Not only that, but speaking of fragile, I also prefer BluRays because they are scratch resistant.

[Persistantthug]

What are Alphas?

Anyone know?

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I used to be concerned about my 360 taking a dive, but it hasn't ever. On the flip side, the most common problems with consoles is the disc drive wearing out.

I have a MGS4 Limited Edition console (the one with the gunmetal grey material) that I paid $650 after taxes! Since you can't install whole games onto the PS3, I'm concerned the disc drive will fail and the machine is way past warranty.

On a side note, Bad Company 2 is the closest a multi-plat I have seen compared on Lens of Truth.

[Bigpappy]

But it is not enough to make anyone buy it over the PS3 version. It is most noticable in weapons and in the distance. Technically 360 has the more stable frame rate and less screen tear. Developers are getting better at making the game more even between 360 and PS3. Less reasons to have a fanboy fight.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Get out of there Soda, those guys are too busy sticking their nose up their monitors looking for differences they barely can see on still images, much worse on fluid movies or gameplay...

They don't mean no harm, just need better lens (some that lie a bit, maybe).

[Pandamobile]

'Alphas' refers to the alpha channel (or transparancy) on a texture. Stuff like foliage and hair are modeled as simple 3D planes with an alpha'd texture. The background of the texture will be a solid colour (usually black or white), and that part will be transparent, with the painted texture being the only thing that is visible.

Think of it like green screening.

[DaTruth]

This is a BFBC2 PS3 and 360 comparison! PC fanboys need not apply!

There are more comments here addressing the PC superiority than the differences between 360 and PS3! "Bu, bu, but, if you want to play teh real BFBC2, "just" buy teh $1400 rig!"

[champ21]

@datruth

so lets not get that 100usd gpu upgrade on the pc, instead lets get a 300usd console. then pay 10-15usd extra per game for the rest of the 7years... give it up, consoles wont win the price argument against PC. Unless we build a really hi end pc which isnt needed, since even a low/mid range pc will outperform anything a console can do.

[ps3ftwin]

i was debating on getting the ps3 version, but with the price difference where i am at PC version being 25usd cheaper and higher res fps, PC was the obvious choice.

[t850]

Played the game on my 4870x2 runs great 1080 60fps+ everything maxed out.

Later i was over at a friends house seeing the xbox360 version, it was about 30fps dipping down at times. Textures looked low res compared to PC.

I couldnt go back to 30fps after playing well over 60fps.

Pc is the version to get.

[junk-3d]

Good comparison! I am glad to see that the two versions look so close. Still wonder what is going on with the vegetation on the Xbox 360...what a mess.

[tronz]

"Still wonder what is going on with the vegetation on the Xbox 360...what a mess."

I think you are exaggerating what was said in the article, you can not tell by looking at these pics.

[Antan]

"I think you are exaggerating what was said in the article, you can not tell by looking at these pics."

From the article-:

"While both version looked similar the Xbox 360 version had some rendering issues that were more noticeable. When we compared the demo builds of this game both version rendered some distracting alpha maps that surrounded most of the environments vegetation edges. This anomaly was easily seen when we decide to take cover behind some bushes. Unfortunately, the Xbox 360 version returned with the same alpha problems we experienced with the demo. On the other hand the PlayStation 3 version rendered the alpha maps correctly, making them completely transparent. Obviously, this never effects game-play, but technically speaking it looked plain ugly".

No, i`d say his comment is pretty much spot on. Spread you fud elswhere.

[ClownBelt]

Wow. Isn't Dice owned by EA? Holy crap! EA devs are fricking talented when it comes to porting games...ie Dante's Inferno

[kaveti6616]

Too bad I hated Dante's Inferno.

[ClownBelt]

What about the PC version though? We all know it will be superior, but like what I want to know is how superior it is compare to the console versions...

[champ21]

@clownbelt

2 console friends of mine when they saw the pc version running @ 1080p. they dropped the console version to get PC. The difference was very visable even in beta when pc was running at medium res textures. in the final game with dx 11 and hi res textures pc is clearly superior while having silky smooth 60fps+. its very smooth even on a 8800gtx(3yrs old).

[ShinMaster]

No one just drops their choice on a console version of a game for the PC version. If they bought a console, more than likely they won't care about playing the same games on the PC.

We all know PCs can have higher graphical performance if you got the money. And I don't care how much some PC gamers may spend prepping their rig for a nonexistent title. Because so far almost all multiplatform titles don't look that much more impressive or mind blowing on PCs compared to consoles.

Let console gamers enjoy their games. You're not changing anyone's minds.

[IHateYouFanboys]

they might be talented with porting, but this isnt a port so its a moot point.

Bad Company 2, like nearly EVERY other multiplatform game this generation, has all versions developed concurrently. this, by definition, is not a port.

[Nikuma]

This game on the PC isn't anything special really. It looks a bit better yeah, but you can tell it's a straight port from the consoles and doesn't truly take advantage or push PC capabilities.

Now Battlefield 3.... that'll be something amazing to see on the PC.

[champ21]

@shingino

keep telling yourself that. people who are open minded do change when they see a superior version out there @ a cheaper price.

Now if it satifies you to keep telling yourself that pcs are expensive that doesnt change fact. Console gamers need to drop the myth on pcs being expensive to game on. That just insnt true, rather its the otherway around. Pc can be cheaper then getting a console since most of us already have one(just needs a 100usd gpu). Even if one is built from scratch it will be cheaper then a console in the long run, say 2years.

[devsgreat]

the game looks very very good...graphics look slightly better on PS3...nothing really big, who ever buy this game can enjoy the 2 versions the same way...great job DICE

[thetruthinator]

I dont really agree that the graphics looked better on the ps3 version. Yes, something was really messed up with that bush, but it you look carefully at the other pictures (as in the picture of the dock, or lack of texture definition of the chinstrap in the ps3 pic) it looks like the 360 version actually has an edge on the ps3 version.

I looked pretty carefully at these stills and i think anyone who says differently either 1) didnt look at them, or 2) FOS

[Persistantthug]

I certainly did and love it. I also played the beta to hell and back and a great deal of the demo.

I can tell you firsthand that you will spend more time directly looking at bushes than you will at someones chinstrap......cause you'll be in em. lol
Also, you can see those same "particles" goin on in the Haggard picture when you look at his mustache.

I'm not exactly sure what that is (I think that's what they are referring to as ALPHAS), because I'm still trying to get word from my question on 1.12, but it might be this explaination that this guy came up with...maybe:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[thetruthinator]

Yes, i have had the game since launch. I spend time in the bushes and i have not yet noticed the poor quality they are rendered at(although i might now). I probably didn't notice because the extra marks just added to the chaos of view impairment that you would expect from being in a bush (im not saying its ok though).

Im going to be lazy and not check your link... but rather i am going to go ahead and guess that its an error experienced on the 360 from decompression of the texture... whereas the ps3 version probably doesnt have to decompress as much due to the large blu-ray storage.

[Ju]

@Persistantthug Re Alphas. I think you got your answer already, but maybe I will say it again here.

"Alpha" is used to describe a transparency. I am not sure why its called "Alpha" as such, but it was (and is) actually used as an additional 4th component to describe the color information of a pixel.

The color information is usually stored in 3 components, red, green and blue (you might have heard about that in things like "RGB" pixels), 8 bit each (today we can have higher resolution of each component). But with 3x8 bit the full color range in an RGB is therefore 24 bits or 16.7 million possible colors (there are other encoding schemes, like YUV and also 10 bits per gun, as well as floating point pixels).

But going with the RGB convention, this is a 3 byte value. There is nothing like a 3 byte word in a cpu or in memory. Its either 8, 16, 32 or 64 bits, 3 bytes are 24, which in fact makes memory, in which such an image is stored un-aligned data. Very bad for a cpu to process. Somebody came up adding a 4th byte, and while it would be a waste of memory to "just" add a 4th byte, this 4th one became the "Alpha Channel". It is an 8 bit value, which can describe the transparency level of the pixel (the RGB + Transparency). It allows 256 levels of transparency of each single pixel.

By using this around edges, those edges can be "smoothed" (this is not anti aliasing like used in MSAA or such, its not a filter), but using the transparency allows you to "fade" edges to the background.

The trade off with such a method is, that to achieve transparency, the GPU has to read the pixel on a specific location, and then use a raster operation to "merge" the new pixel to the old destination. It has to mix the new and old information.

This additional read cycle is bandwidth intensive. Obviously just writing that pixel is twice as fast. That is, why alpha in textures is sometimes avoided at all costs. To make sure, the render engine does not run into bandwidth limitations "pseudo transparency" is used sometimes, where, by using a hi res pattern, every other pixel is drawn. Means, one pixel is the old background, while the next is the source pixel, cheating the eye into believing the image is transparent.

To make it short, alpha in the (leave) textures is used in the PS3 version resulting in more smooth transparent effects, while the 360 does not use correct alpha channeled textures, but "pseudo transparency" (according to that article).

[tronz]

So almost the same but with some missing textures and other effects in the PS3 version. PS3 rendered the environments vegetation better. Less screen tearing in the 360 version. Runs better on the 360. Not bad Dice. Even though they gave PS3 the edge in looks, you can clearly see the PS3 version has missing textures and has a off red tent.

[Biggest]

Why is it a problem that PS3 pitched a red tent?

tronz says: Even though they gave PS3 the edge in looks, you can cry cry cry cry cry cry red tent.

Don't be sad that the people that judge looks didn't call your number. You'll win in 2006. I'm a psychic.

[Antan]

"So almost the same but with some missing textures and other effects in the PS3 version."

Really? Did you pull that from your @rse as there is no mention of this in the article?

"you can clearly see the PS3 version has missing textures and has a off red tent."

Yes, its so clear even Lens Of Truth picked up on it. End sarcasm.

Who do i trust? LOT or tronz, Why Dis, POG etc etc?! LMAO!

You`ll be seeing the ban hammer shortly so best get the fud out of your system. Speaking of comparisons, its interesting you haven't commented using your We Won account since the Digital Foundry FF13 article. For a few days you were crying saying Neogaf was wrong blah blah etc etc.

[Lord_Ranos]

Another multiplatform that runs better on PS3. I guess bots got used to it, since now the 70% of multiplatform looks better on PS3. But it doesnt matter cause the Dualshock 3>>>>>TURDbox controller.

[Shaka2K6]

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[Das_Bastardion]

Bioshock 2 (Acoording to a German website)
Final Fantasy XIII (Without question)
Battlefield Bad Company 2 (Lens of truth)
Lost Planet 2 (Acoording to the demo comparison... lens of truth i believe)

Better looking on Xbox 360?

...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Das_Bastardion only one on that list that looks better on the PS3 is Final Fantasy. "Bioshock 2 (Acoording to a German website)" Are you serious or desperate, what German site?

[JeffGUNZ]

hahahahahaha some german website....Well I saw a website from Finland that states all those games look better on the 360, so I guess that is that.

[xg-ei8ht]

Pull the other one.

The alpha problem with the trees is on every fking tree on the snow maps(where it looks worse) and on a large tv, it does look bad.

Shadows are worse on the 360.

As for fps/screentear, depends what's going on at the time.

For a 3way game PC/PS3/360 It works very well and is a very good game.

Furthermore, both version also seem to lack any anti-aliasing techniques whatsoever making for some jagged edges throughout the game. While both version looked similar the Xbox 360 version had some rendering issues that were more noticeable. When we compared the demo builds of this game both version rendered some distracting alpha maps that surrounded most of the environments vegetation edges. This anomaly was easily seen when we decide to take cover behind some bushes. Unfortunately, the Xbox 360 version returned with the same alpha problems we experienced with the demo. On the other hand the PlayStation 3 version rendered the alpha maps correctly, making them completely transparent. Obviously, this never effects game-play, but technically speaking it looked plain ugly.

I stated this when both demos came out, and it still is a problem for the 360.

[DaTruth]

"Bu, bu, bu, but, teh Ps3 can't do teh alpha transparencies dat teh 360 can do in Bayonetta!"- Digital Foundry

[thetruthinator]

There is a picture on the LOT comparison where there is simply no shadow where there should be in the Ps3 version (the dock picture).

Fail?

[Ju]

Happens on both versions. Quote:

"For example, while in one of the cut scenes we captured the shadow of the character is clearly seen on the ground in front of him on the Xbox 360 version, but is completely missing on the PlayStation 3 version. Understand, this was not just limited to one version because both versions seem hit or miss with shadows missing here and there."

[gamingisnotacrime]

Equal for gaming, a little difference when using equipment to detect it.
good job DICE

[iistuii]

Ive got a gaming rig. I have witnessed BBC2 on my mates 40" television on a console and my god what a jaggie mess. How can anyone say this looks good.At least MW2, RE5 Dirt2 all look good on console and of course the usual K2 and U2. But those jaggies really do let this game down. I know theres alot going on but it's still not good without any AA. I'm glad im able to play at 1920x1200 with 4x AA and it does look incredible. I love my consoles but this game looks ugly on them . The only problem so far with the PC version i have is that i am having trouble logging on sometimes to the EA server, typical BF2 was as bad.

[champ21]

according to comments from Dice, the pc version is more crowded then both consoles combined. I would expect server delays initially. The game just is selling very well on Pc.

When the PC community gets what they want, they really do go all out.

also regarding the PC spec requirement. I am playing this on my rig which has eyefinity with 3 monitors. The game runs liquid smooth.

However even on my laptop which has a gtx260 (slightly less powerful then a 8800gtx) it runs very smooth @ 1080p 2xAA. So id say the game is very well optimised on PC even for low to mid range rigs.

[happy_gilmore]

this game is fugly. i have it on my pc and there are a lot of slowdowns and unstable framerate. using gtx 260 sli.

[champ21]

you sure you installed the drivers on those gtx260 sli?

the game should be liquid smooth even on a 8800gtx. unless you want to try playing on some insane resolutions like 2560*1600 with 8xAA which the gpu wont be able to handle due to memory limitations. 1080p should be flawless on a single gtx 260.

[Pandamobile]

He's talking out his ass again. He comes into every BFBC2 related news hating on it, so I doubt he actually owns it.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

buy the game on the console your friends got.screw what any site tells you.for me,I got the ps3 ver because I let my gold live run out and havnt gotten any new 360 games for live multiplayer since Geow2 and Fifa09.I tend to buy multiplats on ps3 nowadays.

[1PC2PS33360]

to the PC. The console version is not even in the same category.....it looks like bad company 1...(played it on my brothers 360) it was a mess......on pc it has some vistas that near almost crysis level of scope and refinement...that is ..playing it at true 1920x1080p (not 1156x632...or whatever those last gen consoles use) Plus when you add in stunning 32x q anti aliasing with supersampling and every line is perfect and true....man...it is a sight to behold...I hate how all these lame online publications ignore the Giant Elephant in the room that is constantly CRUSHING everything the consoles attempt to put out....PC is to 360/PS3, what PS3 is to Wii...sure they might have allot of the same games...but its not really the SAME game.

[AliTheBrit19]

DAMN now theres a difference

Xbox 360 superior version confirmed... again

Faster loading, much less frame tearing, and based on the roll over screenshots the Xbox 360 is much sharper and has better colours.

[Das_Bastardion]

EVEN the guys who made the comparison CLEARLY SAID that the game is better looking on the PS3

But in the other hand, the xbox wins in performance

Even two of the judges gave the win to the ps3

Your sir have no fvcking credibility, read the fvcking article and then go on troll mode... you suck big big big time

Edit: and im taking your bubbles for being a goddamn retard, you're welcome

[AliTheBrit19]

Umm, OK?

Based on those screenshots the 360 version clearly looks better.

Whats up? time of the month? go cry somewhere else

[Persistantthug]

In fact, you get a bubble for the laugh, Das_Bastardion.

As for AliTheBrit19, I won't take your bubble, because even though your fanboy'ish comment (which was a lie on your part) might deserve your silence, I am curious what more laughs you can further bring to the table.

Good luck, AliTheBrit19. :)

[CernaML]

No actually the 360 has a horrible dithering effect that is very hard to ignore. :)

[Grown Folks Talk]

I can't stand it when i'm playing a game & wondering the whole time how much more I would be enjoying it on the other console. = (

[harrisk954]

When is LOT going to be doing their FFXIII comparison?? /s

[BannedForNineYears]

M'kay, PS3 version looks a bit better.
BUT! Remember the other comparison? 360 version looked better.
Freaking comparisons that change every time.
The water looks better on the PS3, AA looks better on the PS3 (Look at the bush).
But yeah, the performance is apparently better on the 360.
So, better graphics and slight screen tearing? Or Worse graphics and a little big of screen tearing.

[Persistantthug]

Beta's and demo's compared to the final versions are subject to change at any time.

[plb]

Game is fun but the servers keep going down and I still cannot get my preorder DLC from the EA online store because that has hasn't been up yet.

[sulack]

Anal...

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

'KILLZONE 2'!!! AGAIN!!! ;-D (and 'KillZone 2' is 1 year old now!!!???)

[chidori666]

i agree sir ken.. +bubbles..

[Pandamobile]

While we're at it, might as well come in and say that Crysis is still the graphics king and that's almost, what, three years old now?

[jack_burt0n]

LOT Bioshock 2 verdict

Really bad screentearing on ps3.

the truth

PS3 version of bioshock 2 is vsynced.

enough said.

[junk-3d]

"LOT Bioshock 2 verdict - Really bad screentearing on ps3."

Really, bend the truth much? That was never said in the article. Let me quote it for you since you can't seem to read:

"Thankfully, neither system performed terribly, but the PlayStation 3 performed slightly better than the Xbox 360. Since the frame rates were so close, this decision was made based mostly on screen tearing. The screen tearing on the Xbox 360 was worse, and was especially noticeable during scenes similar to Clip 5, where the Big Sister shattered a giant window and water flooded in."

Nice try.

[XabiTheHumble]

as games keep getting bigger the xbox 360 will just keep getting more irrelevnt its just the sad truth.

[xg-ei8ht]

When are the night maps coming, they look awesome.

[geth1gh]

Finally, they are closing the barrier with multi platform games performing the same on both consoles. now there is no excuse to buy a ps3 with the exclusives for the system as a plus.

don't get me wrong, its still nice to have a 360. (need to get one since my other got banned months ago.)

[pwneddemocrat]

homepage title
it shows " Lens of Truth: Battlefield - Bad Company 2 Anal.. "
Epic LOL
so the fact that the words are limited or something and those four last letters were replaced by dots is just funny
Thanx, the n4g's homepage title for this article made my day lol

[jalen247]

Good comparison.

Lens of Truth are going to become the gold standard soon enough now that DF has shown their bias.

I have the PS3 version and I am enjoying the game.

The single player is not as good as MW 2 but the muliplayer in BF BC2 is better than MW 2.

[Solbadguy]

how jaggy this game looks, kinda makes me regret getting it for PS3 instead of my PC. Sometimes I'll mistake dancing jaggies for moving players and it annoys me. They should just roll out next-gen with mandatory 1080p 60fps and 16x AA, not going to happen but I'm a little upset about it right now.

[xg-ei8ht]

I'm not sure about MW2 Sp and i've only played alittle on a friends machine of the MP.

But i think the Sp is excellent, sniping, and explosions and the damage is sweet.

Jaggies are not that noticeable for me tbh, i know it has some, but it's overblown by pc players. I'm a pc player, bf2,q3,q4,hl2, and all the good ones, but when ur sitting next to your monitor, those jaggies look far worse then on a 42inch + from further away.

I'm loving the game as you might have guessed, only played alittle Mp lol,(33kills(39deaths in hardcore mode) playing sp atm.

But i'm very impressed with it.

[jalen247]

I haven't completed either single player campaigns yet but from what I have played single player is presented better in the call of duty series (MW, WAW, and MW 2) but Battlefield multiplayer is more fun.

[Gish]

My real question is I have a PS3 and just upgraded my PC to a (PhenomII x4 with 4gig ddr3 with a ATI 5750). While I know this is a perfect game for my pc to take advantage of, I have to say I love my 58" plasma and my surround system. What should I buy???? PS3 or PC????

[Pandamobile]

Why don't you hook up your PC to your TV via HDMI? Peronally, I can't stand gaming on a TV, I'd take a 24" 1080p monitor over a 60" TV any day.

[Gish]

Panda, I totally agree with you and understand what your saying. The biggest thing for me is that I can't hook up my surround PC speakers in my setting so i have basicly a 3.1 (2 sides, center and sub). I absolutely love the BC2 sounds on the PS3 on the full surround. Thats my biggest problem. Plus my computer chair sucks... So what do you think?

[Pandamobile]

I could never recommend a game like Battlefield on a console if you have an adequate PC.

My GTX 295 can be used as a sound device and transfer sound over HDMI, so I'm sure the ATI cards can too.

[Gish]

My ATI does have HDMI support, although hooking it to my tv is not an option because of distance. So basicly, having to decide if I play on a (crysis on very high level capable) system with a very good but limited to stereo'ish speaker system vs console with HD tv and very good surround system is my biggest problem.

[Pandamobile]

Take the PC. As long as you have a subwoofer, the game will sound phenomenal.

[Gish]

Awesome man. Bubbles for the advice. It has been racking my brain hard... Plus saves me $10!

[t850]

I got HDMI on my ati radeon 4870x2, works great on a 1080p tv transfers the sound too, just like pandamobile said. Plus you save the 10usd, PC version is a no brainer.

[Fade_Walker]

I rented BC2 for 360 and I must say that the back drops were absolutely stunning. So no matter what system you buy it for you won’t be disappointed.

[1PC2PS33360]

on console are unbearable...they are actually worse than most console games( which still have too many)...I believe this is because of the scale, destruction and sheer amounts of polygons on screen...not to mention the entire map needs to be rendered in multiplayer as people are on all sides of it at all times....for those on the fence...the game is absolutely outstanding...16 hours in to multiplayer...awesome.
For those with a dual or quad core pc and no graphics card...make the plunge....buy a 275 or whatever ati has comparable and enjoy the game with NO JAGGIES and excellent lighting.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

dice has stated they could still do much more.theres lots of compressed textures,and I wonder why that is,could it be the limited dvd storage?best case scenario,BFBC3 on 360 would come with 2 discs and require a similar install to Forza 3.this game is epic,hands down better than Killzone (with no vehicles) and Halo3/ODST (the artstyle is just not for me)

[Pandamobile]

The PC version is only 6 GB in size, so it's not a storage device issue.

[Socomer 1979]

Xbox360 "ugly"
ps3 "quality"

play bfbc2 on ps3 because it's prettier than on the crapbox. Free online. Better competetion with mature gamers.

For graphics get killzone2.

So ummm bots you were sayin...?

[fullmetal297]

I'm running this game on an HD5850 at 1080p running at 60 frames with custom settings. Switched to the console version and almost threw up from the choppy frames and poor visuals. Honestly, I can't understand how anyone can play a FPS under 30 frames.

[Gun_Senshi]

Superior Version by far is on PC.
Console fanboys are funny

[ticklechamp]

Set your computers to ps3 specs and run Crysis. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the pc versions of MGS4, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, The Last Gaurdian, and Heavy Rain. Let me know how much better the pc versions look when you pick them up. Thanks.

[ManiacMansion]

Lens of Truth - the only site i believe.