Valve: 'We messed up on PS3'

Valve has told CVG that it didn't put its "best foot forward" on PS3 with The Orange Box - and that it is working to "get better" on the system.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

make a PS3 exclusive so you can actually push the hardware or GTFO.

[flankhim]

Making anything exculsive is just stupid from a business standpoint. Would you want to have one customer or have two customers?

[PotNoodle]

Valve are a PC developer, they wouldn't ever make a console exclusive game.

[Model]

I forgive you Valve. But not Gabe, he needs more cake and dont tell him its a lie.

[Brazil]

...Or they can just stick to PC, because that's where game technology is ACTUALLY advanced and refined.

[thehitman]

Its only better for mutli if your pushing shovelware or average games. If you want real cognition exclusives are the best way to go. Halo/Gear/UC/Res/GoW/GT/ME dont think would be big name titles if they were mutliplatform and definitely the ps3 titles wouldnt be as good.

[Bnet343]

Valve making a console exclusive would be stupid. They should stick to making PC games, that's what they excel at the most.

[deadreckoning666]

"Hey Valve, make a PS3 exclusive so you can actually push the hardware or GTFO."

Ur comment makes no sense whatsoever. 95% of the games on PS3 DON'T push the hardware at all. By your logic, ur saying that every developer who works on the PS3 has to push the hardware to its limits or not make any games at all.

If it were up to YOU, then we wouldn't have excellent multiplatform games on the PS3 like Arkham Asylum, Bioshock, or Bad Company 2.

Why can't Valve just make a multiplatform game thats equal on both consoles? I'd buy Left 4 Dead 3 in a HEARTBEAT if it came to the PS3 and it worked as well as the 360 version.

"screw valve dont even bother making a game for the ps3 almost 90% of ps3 owners dont care for them anymore."

Id love to see where you got ur PROOF of that.

[na2ru1]

But never forgetten.
Never see Valve the same way as I did when I enjoyed HL 1 and 2.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

their ports to xbox and ps3 are just for extra money which they really dont need.

I get valve games on my PC because Source games get way better support on PC.

[nefertis]

LMAO thats some funny sh!T.No thanks valve. Playb3yond

[gaffyh]

Tbh, this is MAJOR damage control on Valve's part. Gabe made an ignorant comment that alienated the entire PS3 community, and he expected the PS3 to fail. But now it's selling extremely well, and that community has grown to over 33 million gamers, and PS3 exclusives are getting a lot of attention, meaning even more sales for PS3 systems in the future.

Now they are trying to build bridges, and it's a start, just make sure Gabe learns to STFU from now on and the PS3 community will forgive you Valve.

[Jinxstar]

Gaffyh

I will never buy a valve game for my PS3. Gabe already dug his own grave with that. There's too much other good stuff for my PS3 to get anything from valve. If I were to ever buy anything of theirs it would be for my PC anyway. Too little too late honestly.

[baum]

You're late in the game, Valve. Hurry up and make a PS3 Home version of Steam, and all will be forgotten.

[ABizzel1]

OMG. How the mighty have fallen. Sweet Justice Indeed.

[SullyDrake]

I have no respect for Gabe, who single-handedly destroyed Valve's reputation among PS3 fans. Although I would laugh if he released an apology note.

He probably shed a few pounds sweating after the new GOWIII GT footage.

[Tinted Eyes]

Notice how good the PS3 is doing lately, now Valve is apologizing and saying they might work on it eventually.

Its nice to see one of the biggest PS3 haters admit they were wrong.

[DarkBlood]

@Deathro

lol i see what you did there

[Hellsvacancy]

Guess that confirms Left 4 Dead 3 on the PS3, id happily welcome a new Half Life game, but id more then likely rent, Valve hav never really blown me away wid there games Pc, 360 wotever, the 1st Half Life game was good but i played that goin on 10 years ago

[Chubear]

... uhmmmmmmm.

I mean, unless you have the memory of plantar, who can forget the most outrageous outright left hook to the jaw slugs Valve's entire management line has laid down on the PS3.. and now, after the FUD didn't kill the PS3 but rather it's growth is rapid, it's now "Oh, yeah, we've always love the PS3 so we'll now get some games rollin' out on it"

LOLZ! Egg on face FTMFW! XD

THIS courtesy of the very diligent, loyal and intensely STRONG minded Playstation fanbase that didn't let the insane FUD - of galactical proportions - about the PS3 deter them from supporting true current gen gaming and potential for even better gaming experiences in the future and now we see the rabid naysayers doing 180 turns.

ALL HAIL THE PLAYSTATION FANBASE! - HAIL!

[Dance]

Theres no guarantee it would sell well enough to begin with so why bother?

[xabmol]

Naw, it's one of those things that makes you go, "HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah ahahHAHAHAHAaha" xD

But really...

The only thing I want from Valve on the PS3 is MORE PORTAL!!

[Chubear]

I hear you to a certain degree but I have to say that though I personally couldn't give a rats butt if L4D is on the PS3 or not but Half Life and Portal have been insane gems for me and though they were never at risk of ever not being on the PS3, it's great to see a naysayer developer like Valve eat crow.

@2.0

That's an OLD tired argument. Gamers on the PS3 see that they have BOTH graphics AND gameplay to high quality levels. The PS3 base does not have to settle for one or the other. That's sooooo last gen.

[Lifendz]

back in 2007 your comments really had me wondering if I made the right move. This was before the onslaught of Sony AAA exclusives and at a time when 3rd parties seemed to just give PS3 owners whatever they felt like giving.

But now, well it's obvious how different today is from yesterday. And I see this statement and wonder what's the rationale behind it. It would be one thing if you simply claimed to lack the necessary resources to develop on the system. As a "small" PC dev that might go over since the PS3 architecture is so different from the PC. But the fact that Gabe has just been downright indignant in his views on the system really make me question the sudden change of heart. Heck, just recently the word from Valve was that the 360 community was head and shoulders above the PSN community. So, again, one has to wonder what brought on this change of heart.

It's one thing to read fanboy comments from someone that's not in the industry and quite another for a dev to make them. Not saying I won't give whatever you put out a look now that you're going to "do better." I just hope in the future you really put forth your "best efforts" on a system before declaring that it should be recalled.

[evrfighter]

You guys know that Gabe isn't the one saying these things right?

They aren't even talking about making console games. Chet is pretty much apologizing again for the Orange Box port and that's pretty much it. The decision to work on the ps3 will come from Gabe himself.

You guys will only disappoint yourselves if you keep trying to read too much in between the lines. Getting down to it Valve are in no financial trouble. To have their dev's start learning the ps3 now would be fruitless. There is no gain to be made from ancient tech in 2010.

Not when they they have a fanbase and a community bigger than LIVE and PSN.

@Lifendz

Imo I think some devs at Valve caught consolitis and believe there are greener pastures. Chet has quite a bit of pull at Valve and so I do believe he can say things in this nature without Gabe's backing.

There isn't really a problem with this but as DICE have found out. Turning their backs on the pc community was the probably the worst decision they ever made. Without a proper competitor on the pc. DICE pretty much gave IW the fps throne withot a fight. Now look where DICE is. Doing everything in their power to appease the pc crowd to try and reclaim some of their former glory.

I think most pc gamers knew/know the day Valve wanted to try their hand at consoles is coming. It's just sad because now we would have to wait for Valve to fail at the console like DICE did. Should Gabe decide to give the green light of course.

Technological development is at a crawl this gen because of developers thinking the grass the greener. Heck the game with the best graphics out was created 3 years ago. When I say this you know exactly what game I'm talking about as it needs no introduction Every ps3 blogger site tries to compare an upcoming exclusive to it only to fail miserably when they're compared side by side.

[Lifendz]

Maybe Gabe is too embarrassed after taking such a strident stand against the PS3? Maybe Valve is trying to make nice while allowing him to save face?

[BYE]

@flankhim

One customer doesn't automatically turn into two just because a game goes multi.

Exclusive usually means better publisher support and often better game quality. At the end of the day, quality is what customers are really attracted to.

[Saaking]

Yes, yes you did.

[BYE]

A little late to the party Valve, aren't you.

[we won]

You guys do know this is about Orange box right?

[Ahmay]

they won't make a difference... they should stick to multiplats... not sure if they can think of something that would exceed 9 gigs of memo...

[RememberThe357]

"Some of that will come from us learning and getting better. Before we can go onto the PS3 again, we want to make sure we're better at developing for it."

That's a general statement about development. It's not solely referring to Orange Box but how they want to make sure that they know what they're doing before they put one of their products on the PS3.

[UnwanteDreamz]

So you think they are going to ignore 30mil plus potential customers for the remainder of this gen?

[mastiffchild]

Personally, I don't really care for the idea of Valve ports to PS3 anyway. I'm not knocking Valve's games at all-on PC they're great but I fear the terrifyingly weak EA port of The Orange Box has allowed a few sins on the 360.

I didn't play TOB on the PS3 but own it for PC and 360 and just like L4D1 and 2 I find Valve's 360 efforts a little too weak compared to other devs PC to 360 ports for comfort. I'm concerned on two levels:1, That 360 only gamers are getting the wrong idea that Valve care about them more than PS3 gamers when the truth, imo, is the games they offer them are only there because it's quick and relatively easy to port from PC to 360. Valve make easy, fast cash from them but don't support them anything like as well as their PC versions and the quality lags well behind the likes of devs like Bioware when their games arrive on console.

And, 2,This messing about with 360 ports which do little but fill Valve's pockets while we pay more for less(in content, quality, features and community support)with their console games. the net result is the game everyone wants them to make is delayed, delayed and procrastinated over ad nauseum. Cut the 360 ports, don't add PS3 ports and just get HL2 Ep3 finished for PC FFS!

Sure, both consoles are up to date(no matter how ropey the PS version was and how much too far behind the PC game 360's was)on the HL2 saga as we stand and I doubt EA will allow them to miss out on the multi platform riches on offer when HL2 Ep3 finally comes around but juast get the PC game finished. We can talk about pots later on and , if they're as close t the PC version as your competitor's manage then brilliant, get them out too!

Anyway, noticing how average the 360 version of both TOB and L4D looked and played for me I'm not in any hurry to play any more of their games on a console(even if I do think I'd like to play them with a DS3)and pay more for the priveledge of getting less. They still excel on PC and, imo, should care a lot more about their console output but the way they're saying the EA port to PS3 of TOB was weak makes me feel they're happy with what they offer us elsewhere on console and, really, they shouldn't be when others offer their games in much more similar to PC form.

Thankfully their games play so well that people still enjoy them on 360 but I don't believe half as many would if they realised the massive chasm between Valve on PC and Valve on 360. It's not even like the Source engine is pushing ANYTHING on PC beyond the best other devs manage on consoles anyway! Did their seemingly anti PS3 stance and comments endear them so much to the 360 only gamer that they think Valve "has their back" in some way? I don't think they do and feel they put so much more care into pleasing their long term PC fans(of which I remain one)that the consoles only ever get a case of "that'll do" from them as they just see the ports as quick cash.

Hell, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong but going back to L4D on PC after playing it on 360 for a week or so really made the DOUBLE I paid for it stick in my throat. I don't want to feel like that again and don't like feeling Valve might see console gamers as little more than an easy cheque that they have to try very little to cash, sadly.

So, and I'll get hammered for saying it(again)I don't want ANY more of the current quality Valve ports to console but would kill for the follow up to Ep2 on PC anytime but if they suddenly start putting the same care into their console games brilliant-thin is I just don't see it when this intimates they're actually happy, themselves with the quality of their 360 ports. Neither 360 nor PS3 gamers should be too interested at this news from Chet, imo, until their console attitude as a whole changes. I'll be interested to see just how close Rage is to it's PC version when iD get it out later this year too as, mayeb, if they can do a great job it might spur Valve into similar console efforts.

Gabe, and some others including Chet, made their own bed with PS3 gamers by saying some unnecessary and unprofessional things about both the system and the community and , to this day, it puzzles me just why they did it when nobody else ever felt the need. A side effect was that some 360 gamers might think Valve are pro 360 in some way but I don't see that at all. they remain very much PC devs(and great ones at that) who make great games for PC and port them to the convenient console for a bit of extra cash. With my console gamers hat on I wonder, really, is that enough? Esp for a dev of their standing, is that really acceptable? And if it sin't, just why should PS3 gamers now turn any cartwheels about them talking up PS3 ports in future?

Oh well, I'm sure I'll have annoyed everyone by saying what I have(if anyone read it!) Too long really but Valve upset me over this stuff as console gamers deserve them to try just as hard as PC gamers do-considering they pay more it's only fair considering they'll always get lesser gfx and always get far fewer features, of course they do! So, an even hand on the effort and care fronts between PC and console or, preferably, just do the PC games as well as humanly possible. That's my opinion in any case as we all deserve value-even from some of the most inspired developers and even on platforms they might not hold quite as close to their own hearts.

I really wish they'd all kept quiet over the PS3 thing, though, as it's rumbled on and on and no one looks good out of it all.Least of all Gabe and Valve-and, hell, allowing 360 gamers to import some L4D mods for their version from the PC(like UT3 on PS3 does)would have been a great way to start being fairer wouldn't it? Wouldn't even have cost Valve a great deal as it's community made content either and would have added some value t a game which at full retail on 360 I bought for £45!

[ikkokucrisis]

All they've released in the past 3 years is L4D and L4D:exapansion...
I think they've become a company that's more interested in their Steam digital distribution system than making games. How sad

[SilentNegotiator]

How can Valve "Get better" on the PS3 if they never do anything with it?

[morganfell]

Sorry Valve, PS3 owners do not want a ported, 2 year old game. Go exclusive or drop dead.

[Foliage]

So after years of the PS3 killing the 360 in sales, Valve wants to follow the money. Too late, you're a crappy developer clinging on to crappy dated technology.

We don't want your P.O.S. games.

[thesummerofgeorge]

Bash the system and the entire PSN community, make shîtty half åss ports for the PS3, now you want our business? You clowns get none of my money.

[RumbleFish]

:)

[solar]

"Some of that will come from us learning and getting better. Before we can go onto the PS3 again, we want to make sure we're better at developing for it."

sounds good for you guys who dont game on PC, where Valve titles are their best.

some butt hurt ppl in this thread :D

[marinelife9]

I'm willing to give Valve a try. If..... they come out with a game better than Heavy Rain/God of War 3/Uncharted 2...

[Persistantthug]

But I actually own the game and still play it. I bought the game about a year ago when I bought my PS3 and I didn't notice any real or severe problems with the game.

Plenty of other People still play TF2 as well.

I guess it must have been fixed a long time ago....but it's funny that no one ever talks about that.
*shrug*

[thesummerofgeorge]

Butt hurt? Hardly, I think many of us including myself prefer to give our business to developers that first: have standards regardless of which console they're developing for, not just their personal favorite. Second: Don't insult their prospective customers.

They're a bunch of low class adult-fanboys, I'm not so hard up for a game that I would support a company I loath.

[deafwing]

dude .. where do you find all the time to type all that? My Lord.

Any who we all know that devs are lazy when it comes to development work on the ps3 because you can hear the "WAM-BULANCE" coming a mile away screaming

"ITS TOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARRRRRRRRRRD" "ITS TOOOOOOOOOO HARD!" LOL :D

[The Lazy One]

I'm curious. Do people not understand what a quote is? If you quote something, they have to actually have said that thing.

"We messed up on PS3," was never said, and it should be changed to "We thought that the Orange Box didn't put our best foot forward with the PS3 community" or "We... didn't put our best foot forward with the PS3 community."

At the very least, the quotes should be removed from the title.

[Dev8 ing]

Why does everything always have to be about sales and customers? Can't a company make a game and maximize a platform to create the best version possible of that game? But this is beside the point. Valve is not a company that does this. Their games try to cater to the most amount of people possible.

[JD_Shadow]

Do you wonder how this talk from Valve is awfully close to GDC10 (or whatever it's being called now)? It could be just a coincidence, but this is the second time Chet has said something about PS3 development to someone. I'm starting to wonder about not only the frequency of these, but also the timing of them.

[Raz]

Quasi. As in: sort of. Kinda. But not really.

You can see where this developer is headed. Oblivion or a buyout. Coasting on old successes, refusal to learn anything new, and making dumbass comments about a particular platform. Until it dawns that they might previously have stood to make some money off of it.

..Oops. Too late now, suckas!

[jessupj]

Sorry valve, you've already dug your grave. No ammount of sucking up and damage control are going to make me forget your pathetic, childish fanboyism. GTFO

[Sarcasm]

I think once they saw GoWIII, they realized how powerful the PS3 really is.

[ll_UNDERSCORE_ll]

read the articles first posted comment it's very very true and humorous , viral bubbles for him/her.

[evrfighter]

the amount of comments and degrees this article has gotten where chet never even says "we messed up on the ps3"

goes to show how badly and how desperate the ps3 fanboys want a valve game. Quite the show we have going on here today.

[StanLee]

Chet Faliszek needs to shut up and stop speaking for Valve. He's a writer and nothing more. Doug Lombardi smacks his head every time he reads a comment attributed to Chet.

[cmrbe]

It only make haters to lovers.

[Aaroncls7]

FVCK VALVE. That fat ahole talked a lot of sh!t not so long ago. Stick with PC development, the damage cannot be undone. Oh, and time to do HL3, you d!cks.

[edhe]

That with all the previous Valve hate the OP up there now wants exclusive Valve games and gets 87+ agrees.

hypocritical much?

[MNicholas]

Valve's incompetence is obvious.

[morganfell]

Here is my main problem with these idiotic comments from jackass Valve in this article. None of the main issues to date have been because Valve didn't understand the PS3. Orange Box wasn't even made by them so it wasn't that they didn't know the PS3. That was EA not knowing the PS3.

The Valve problem begins and ends with these incessant attacks on the PS3 and the PS3 community.

If you are going to apologize at least show some guts you spineless bastards and start with an apology for something you actually did. Stop making it sound like a technical issue and have that fat sandwich eating Gabe get up out of that 20 ton Jabba the Hutt chair he lays in and have him issue a sincere apology.

This is the PS3 community and if you are going to continue to act like a pack of liars you won't get anywhere.

[captain-obvious]

so is left 4 dead coimng to the PS3 anytime soon ??

[starvinbull]

Not too sure they'd ever make an exclusive for any Sony console but it's good to hear sensible words from Valve and I think it will do them some good if they ever take the plunge on PS3.

Episode 3? I hope so.

[pwnsause]

so this pretty much confirms that Valve is back on PS3 development?

[nightelfmohawk]

I don't really care if the are. Valve is a one-trick pony that only knows how to make SHOOTANs and games with first-person perspectives. The only Valve game that really impressed me was Portal, tbqh, and the lady who was largely responsible for that game no longer works at Valve.

[led1090]

one trick pony? ONE TRICK PONY?????!!!!! Half Life, Counter strike, Half life 2, Counter Strike Source, Team fortress, Team fortress 2, Portal and the HL episodes. One trick pony? I don't think so. Its ohk to give a person the treatment he deserves for saying something insanely stupid like Gabe did. But to not give someone the credit they deserve is just blasphemy. And i did not even mention Left 4 Dead even though personally i love it.

[yewles1]

"one trick pony? ONE TRICK PONY?????!!!!! Half Life, Counter strike, Half life 2, Counter Strike Source, Team fortress, Team fortress 2, Portal and the HL episodes. One trick pony? I don't think so."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Look at what you just posted, and tell those games have NOTHING to do with each other...

[Danteh]

lol yeah you pretty much confirmed 100% what the guy said, that Valve is a one-trick pony.

ALL those titles are FPS, wtf???????

[Comet]

Half-Life 3 development for PS3 confirmed!!!
;D

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...'LEFT 4 DEAD'...for REAL!!! ;-D
+
'PS3' owners = 'FULL LIFE' ;-P (even without Valve, we DON'T need them)
&
'PC' owners = 'Half Life'
&
'xBox 360' owners = 'NO Life' ;-D

[SSCOOLCHEA]

Killzone 2 ......

[arakouftaian]

Ps3 owners

Orange Box 2

with

Tf3
HL3
Counter Strike 2

and i may buy it day one
if is not a bad port

and for Cs2 and TF3
i need a close and OpenDoc beta
think about it and
Thank you

[ChrisW]

Seems like there's no love for FPSs in the PS3 community...

I wonder why!

Really I do!!!

[SpartanZero]

Valve doesn't focus on graphics like PS3 games they sacrifice graphics for gameplay to make their games fun for the community but L4D2 does have one of the best graphics this gen.

[ZombieAutopsy]

you obviously only play valve games on consoles their games look pretty decent on a beast as5 rig

[LastDays]

someone with a halo avatar thinks graphics need to be sacrificed for a game to be fun? You don't say. Buy a wii if you believe such things. At least then you get to play galaxy 2.

[silvacrest]

sony and other developers manage to do great graphics and gameplay equally

nuff said

[Maldread]

Yeah, because U1,U2,GOW3,Killzone 2, LBP etc surely dosn`t look great and play great right ?

And LFD2 has some of the best graphics this gen ?? Take of your helmet because it must be ruining your eyes.

[Lifendz]

Ummm...no. L4D2 isn't even among the top 360 games in terms of graphics let alone PS3 and 360 games.

[Neurotoxin]

@Maldread

Why do you have a picture of Meatloaf as an avatar ;)

[Maldread]

Hehe i`ll ask you the same thing ;)

[redsquad]

This isn't news, as everyone already knows it.

[Oldsnake007]

Looks like Half Life Episode 3 will come to the ps3 from Valve themselves.

[Rai]

screw valve dont even bother making a game for the ps3 almost 90% of ps3 owners dont care for them anymore.

[spunnups]

This is a simple money grab, nothing more, nothing less. They left PS3 early adopters high and dry and now want our forgiveness? Hey Valve....GO SCREW!

[Two-Face]

After they saw the GOW III footage. They wanted to go and develope for the PS3.

And The Orange Box was good on the PS3, I have it, and it a good port if you ask me. It's not as bad as people are claiming it to be.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Well, at least they admit it.

[LastDays]

Sorry, but shut up. I'm sure valve are terrific 360/PC devs, but they shouldn't touch the PS3 anymore. Even if they did the massively revolutionary act of learning how to develop for the PS3(like everyone else has already), it just wouldn't make up for the horrific community relations they've had with PS3 owners and Sony as a whole. These people DIRECTLY attacked people who owned a PS3. That's not just immature, that's amazingly idiotic from a business standpoint. Why would you intentionally alienate yourself from another user base? WHY

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

I think the 360 ports were just too sell to the console market and make some quick money where the game costs more then on PC disk or especially on steam.

Valve doesnt need the Console money but ports to the consoles is easy money for them especially on 360.

Source games dont require a great PC since you can have an older CPU and run the games good as long as you have a decent gpu(better than one in consoles= pretty cheap).

[NJShadow]

It's a little late Valve, we've known this since Gabe started uttering complete and absolute nonsense. And I don't it's that you guys messed up, it's that you've messed up because of the sheer fact that you don't seem to care. After seeing what Naughty Dog has done with Uncharted and what Sony Santa Monica is doing with God of War III (WOW), you guys are essentially rookies in this game now, despite all your supposed experience.

Right now I really couldn't care either way if you develop on the PS3 or not, because I don't think it would come close to the kind of quality that PS3 owners have come to expect. If you decide to join the party, let us know, but until then I'll continue having my mind blown with each new PS3 exclusive...

[SuperbVillain]

now that they see the ps3 is having success and the graphical power it has they want to hop back on...douche bags.

[Ninjamonkey82]

n4gn4gn4gn4g - 23 minutes ago

1 - Hey Valve
make a PS3 exclusive so you can actually push the hardware or GTFO.

_______
Agreed.

[herukuti]

i agree also; if they are aiming for the ps3 crowd then they need to develop specifically for that platform and it cant be a multiplatform title that has equal parity with pc/360

[playstation123]

Left 4 dead on ps3, hahaha 360 has no games.

[exclusive_loser]

...not even DLC.

Bots I haven't forgotten ;-)

Mass Effect series [ PENDING ]
Splinter Cell: Conviction [ PENDING ]

Where will the 360 be at the end of this year :]
http://www.andybrouwer.co.u...

[Mista T]

that's good to hear, but it doesn't bother me since I have a 360, PS3, and PC

[ThePlaystationFour]

& was like... We suck as developers.

[ApocalypseShadow]

"before we go on ps3 again...."

they have not made ***ANY*** games for it.EA made the f#cking port over to ps3.like sega tried to port platinum game's bayonetta to ps3.

valve,a PC developer,chose who they wanted to support DAY ONE without giving ps3 gamers a chance or sony's ps3.valve as a company could have shut GABE up but didn't say anything against him.which lead to ps3 gamers shunning their work.

but now that ps3 is selling as well as we all thought it was,now they want to make some quick cash.most likely EA said,"shut the f#ck up valve and make ps3 games."

but unless they push the system and really try to learn from sony on what it takes to use the SPEs,i don't want their games.it's like square with their lies or capcom saying they are agnostic but still giving exclusive content for other systems.

f#ck valve.if other gamers like their products,then that's okay from me.but i will not be buying nything unless i see HUGE RESULTS.

[gamingisnotacrime]

:)

[Godmars290]

I agree with you, but you know you'd buy L4D if they put it on the PS3 and had decent networking.

In fact, given that no Valve title has ever been a graphical masterpiece, have to guess that their main issue has been about making a network or lobby.

[Persistantthug]

Half Life, yes, I would buy the next episode or what have you,

But L4D is just another one of their glorified mods, among all of their other mods
Overrated imo.

[sikbeta]

@Apocalypse Shadow

Totally True, The Worst Thing about Valve is that their were complaining/bashing the Ps3 Architecture, but they never make any Port for the Consoles, so why they were talking so Much Cr@p When they don't even Try

Is OBVIOUS that now, PS3 is selling Amazingly and the Community s Growing Really Fast, so they'll want to taste the Money of the PS3 Community

Next Time, Valve and GN Think More than TWICE before you talk cr@p...

Gamers FTW!!!

[redsquad]

So they've seen PS3 sales go through the roof, not to mention what the hardware is capable of, and are now crapping AND kicking themselves?

[Cernunnos]

Hahaha! This made me lol.

Too late Valve, just bought a rig so I can pirate your games:)
Not getting my money.

Buy almost all other games though, but I make a nice little exception for Valve games.

[RagTagBnd445]

Valve games are meant for PC and should stay there, the console ports really proved that. All they want is some easy cash, the PC is still the only system they really care for.

[Dance]

360

Left 4 Dead - 89

Left 4 Dead 2 - 89

PC

Left 4 Dead - 89

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Left 4 Dead 2 - 89

[seifer085]

something ! I want L4D 1 and 2 on a single bluray!

[xaviertooth]

so only lionhead, turn 10 and rare were left. and these 2 studios do not even make A-quality games.

[ExposingLames]

and the other one stick rides gran turismo and just attempts to put it on 360 HAHAHA fact!

[mxrider2]

wtf did u just say? no one understood

[Tony-A]

"Now that the PS3 is doing good, it's time to join the bandwagon!"

*sigh*

Still, it's nice to see them lightening up and not pointing fingers. I'm pretty sure a Valve employee told people that it was eventually gonna happen a week or two ago.

[exclusive_loser]

Jump outta that sinking ship and PLAY B3YOND.

[Gigalol]

Valve don't wast your precious time with ps3.

Trust me.

[Lord_Ranos]

lol jealous bot.

[BannedForNineYears]

They used EA to port the Orange Box.
And L4D 1 and 2 on a blu-ray disk would be sick. :P

[SpartanZero]

They are meant for 360/PC not just PC too thats why they have split-screen support and system link support Avatar awards for consoles only. L4D2 is ment to be played on 360 controller. PS3 version just doesn't make sense.

[young juice]

who said anything about l4d2? not valve

[Tony-A]

I've heard a lot of people telling each other "cry moar!!" and "keep crying, b0t/droid" or whatever.

But this is the first time I read a comment that actually sounded like you were whining. Almost as if you were about to cry. Do you realize that L4D has those extra things on 360 so it could attract that crowd? Valve is a PC developer, but to make a bit of extra cash, they need things that would appeal to console gamers. Those features aren't there because Valve is a 360 developer, dude.

If it comes to PS3, get over it. It's not like they're making you switch to playing on a PS3 if they decide to develop for it. You sound like a spoiled kid who wants something exclusively for himself. Probably not gonna happen, kiddo. If you want exclusives, buy a PS3.

[BrokenAnarchy]

Haha No. It is meant to be played on a PC. The 360 version was just an easy money grab by Valve.

[lightningsax]

The only reason why they would change their stance like that is because the PS3 market share is now too big to ignore. It's a good sign! Now if only Sega would listen.

Maybe give us a new JSR in apology, eh? Sega? Anyone?

Crap.

[devsgreat]

thats right not even the biggest fanboy in the world can ignore the PS3 momentum...maybe now they stop complaining about the hardware and start doing games...the power is there they just need to work on it.

[PSEuphoria]

They cant tame the black BEAST from sony.......and who cares about valve?.........those people are last gen.

[RagTagBnd445]

When Half Life 3 is out, i will promise you Valve will not be last gen. And still, if you see how many people still playing there games, calling them last gen would be a little insulting.

[Biggest]

And when Jesus comes the. . . How long will that take exactly? Screw Valve. They have a very long way to go before I buy their games again. Left 4 Dead is of no consequence right now. Unless PS3 cancels all of their upcoming games, GOW3 included, there is no reason to go back in time. I'm not paying new money for old games from someone that said "F U" in my general direction.

[RagTagBnd445]

Agreed, they should stay on PC.

[waterblaze123]

serouisly screw Valve, I dont even care about them ¬__¬
I borrowed Orange box for portal and it was cool but half life had to stop frame rate issues on an FPS just stupid!

[djtek184]

Valve needs to get with the program. The bar set between developers are getting higher. Its time 2 move forward or be left behind.

[joystick555]

valve are a disgrace, they are sticking to the simple old hardware that is the 360 and as soon as the ps3 comes along to further the gaming experiences they screw it up, it was always going to be challenging to develop for ps3 at first cause it was new hardware but you dont just give up... they should gtfo. i mean seriously look at sony's 1st party they put in the effort and are reaping the rewards with ground breaking titles....

[RagTagBnd445]

They are PC developers, they stick to the PC which got anything than old hardware. The structure on the 360 is very similar to the PC, porting there games from PC to 360 is just way easier and faster than porting to the PS3.

[Dance]

Valve are still supporting both console versions of L4D with regular updates and dedicated servers and combines sales both games have sold over 5 million on the 360

[Dirk Benedict]

I don't get all the Valve hate. I get the ms hate though.

Valve is PC centric. Why do they owe us PS3 gamers anything?
They merely allowed EA to work on PS3 on their behalf, because they didn't want to divert valuable resources on architecture they weren't really accustomed to, as well as divert such resources since more notable products were already in the pipeline (HL3, etc)

If Valve wants to do PS3, I am all for it. I love their PC games and would buy them twice, and since I already own most of the Steam games avaiable, I'd turn around and buy any port Valve does themselves, for the PS3.

I will support them if they decide to move forward with PS3 development. For the sake of evolving this industry, I suggest you support them too.

[Dance]

Valve spoke the truth about the PS3 being awkward to work with and the angry campers hate them for it

[Biggest]

Valve was the moron that complained about work being too hard. But when other people thrive and move forward the way some have, they just look more moronic in hindsight. It must suck for them to be the special-ed console team.

[DigitalAnalog]

Then there was the case when a certain employee in "Valve" stated explicitly that the PS3 was a "mistake" and it should have a "do-over".

That's a statement you should NEVER EVER forget!

-Go Figure!

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Valve should have some PR. They griped about a product, that they may have to develop for one day. It wasn't a smart move, no matter how true. Yeah, it is hard to develop for the PS3, but not impossible obviously. Other developers do it with games coming out every week.

The fact that Valve can't was a sore spot for a AAA developer, and a couple of mouths were fairly dismissive of the PS3. No biggie. It ain't the entire company.

But hey. I believe that there should be repercussion and consequences, so it is okay if PS3 owners don't buy a Valve game...like if something better is out.

But I won't be a douche to myself and not buy a game I know I would like over a couple of people's comments. A couple of monkeys won't spoil the zoo.

[Cajun Chicken]

Hopefully this'll stop Valve being picky for formats in the future. I think Gabe must have angered a lot of people within him team.

[cereal_killa]

You'd be pissed to if you went to work everyday and found your lunch was eaten by Jabba the Huts younger son Gabe. I KID!

Who cares Sony sold well without there games and will continue to sell without them. Sony has enough great games coming and in development for anyone to wonder if Valve will ever release there games on the PS3 and if they do then it's another bonus for the Gamers.

[Godmars290]

Just don't want to hear from you anymore.

[Neurotoxin]

Gabe clearly is unable to stand under his own power so someone else has to do the interviews. This guys at least a little more diplomatic with his words, but words they still are.

Here's to hearing some actual concreate developing news going on not past mistakes that have been made.

Valve need a new engine and new ideas. Although left 4 dead would be nice to bridge the time.

[Dirk Benedict]

"Valve spoke the truth about the PS3 being awkward to work with and the angry campers hate them for it"

Yes, many, many, many times. I could even add more "many" if you'd like.

"Valve is PC centric."

[Dance]

Which is one of the reason they choose to work on the 360 not PS3

[Shendow]

One problem with that, PS3 is closer to being a PC then the 360, keyboard and mouse can be use with the PS3 as well as anything bluetooth or wifi, an it uses a laptop hard drive.

So the only thing about PS3 that makes it not a computer besides not being able to fully upgrade it, is the Cell an Bluray (I don't think IBM's computer has bluray build in all their models).

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

That's peripherals...as in outside.

We're talking inside, the architecture. Different things bro.

Reading into the situation myself personally, I think some egos were hurt during the making of Orange Box for PS3. They've been almost overly contrite about that game.

[xAlmostPro]

"we hate ps3" "ps3 is to hard to develop for"..

then sony BANG massive new marketing approach, start outselling the 360.. start getting the good versions of games(sabotuer + ff13 etc) .. wow all modern games seem to be taking up multiple discs on the 360..

wow ps3 have released amazing games uncharted 2, heavy rain, gow 3, gt5( i know there still to come but you catch my drift)..

and now its "yeah we made a mistake" ..stop sucking upto the ps3 now, if it wasnt good enough before :P

[Neurotoxin]

"start getting the good versions of games(saboteur + ff13 etc)"

I've got a PS3 but i gotta say getting a better version of Saboteur isn't actually anything to shout about..... Plus i don't think it was a better version, just had a new approach to Anti-Aliasing on the hardware.

FF13 was a port to make money. I`m sure 360 owners will be glad to play it despite the slightly lower graphical quality which is down to the media not the 360 hardware.

In comparison to three years back i`d say pretty much all multi-platform games are about equal on both systems, occasionally slightly better on 360.

Basically my point is valve won't make a business decision to develop on the PS3 because a few games are slightly better than on 360, in fact i doubt they give a ****. PS3 has got a large install base greatly influenced by the flourishing Blu-Ray film market.

By the way i know my grammar isn't great but you should try using at least some.

[i_am_interested]

i doubt it

i dont see gabe newell paying people to learn what hes sees as a disastrous architecture

[gano]

Wow.
I wanted to right something good for this, 3yrs of slow progress because of clowns like this,
slowly destroying the gaming ind. Now they know they on the bs side and losers wanna play nice.
I HATE SORE LOSERS. Yo team talked that shyt, stay where u at. We ain't missing nothing.
HA, let ea do it. I still won't buy it

[Charmers]

Ok how about you elaborate on how Valve "slowly destroyed the gaming industry" ? The gaming industry is NOT the PS3, there is an awful lot of childish sulking going on in this topic that's for sure and "Valve destroying the gaming industry" is one of the most pathetic sulks I have seen.

Valve has always been a PC centric developer, the only reason why the xbox 360 got versions of the games is due to the fact it has a lot in common with the PC.

[Digital Commando]

If you disagree with me, get a reality check.

[BYAAHHH]

There's just as many other "fanboys" who hate the PS3 ones, so I don't think anyone's a minority.

[stuntman_mike]

valve do seem like they are pulling a flip flop. ps3 is doing really well at the moment and they obviously feel like they were wrong about the things they said.

hope they do pull their finger out and start developing for ps3 would love to see them use the ps3 better and half life 3 would look stunning.

[Draco]

I'll buy it used

[Dirk Benedict]

"Which is one of the reason they choose to work on the 360 not PS3"

Thanks for reminding us.

[gano]

Explain what?
I remember what they spokesman (gabe) and affiliates said, kotaku, gt, eurogamer and so forth.
How are u in game development and talk trash about a GAME CONSOLE.
I don't support bs companies, u can buy it for me if you want.
Nah.. keep it.

[Charmers]

I simply asked you to qualify why you consider Valve was destroying the gaming industry. Everyone with an ounce of sense knows that Valve is a PC developer and they have done an incredible job of bringing products and services to the PC.

The only reason why you find valve products on the xbox 360 is down to the fact that Microsoft made the xbox 360 to be "similar" to PC's. Now I will agree that Gabe has said some stupid things in the past. However I fail to see how Valve has spent 3 years destroying the gaming industry just because they didn't want to get involved with the PS3.

[unworthyBOZO]

I wonder whats with the change of value's attitude could it be because the PS3 is selling like hotcakes,no that can't be it.

[Justin_bristoe]

valve is terrible,must see the the lights going out at 360 HQ

[eL_Equis]

I'll be as happy as the next guy to get my hands on a little L4D, but that comment was bullshit. Just speak the truth: The PS3 is selling remarkably well now due to the price cut and we like making money. Oh and we were giant fracking asses.

[AliTheBrit19]

The PS3 will be privileged to get Valve games, so you better hope it happens.

[cereal_killa]

Why would it be a privilege I dont see or hear any of Sony's Big Guns crying in there meetings saying

"Who cares if we have Uncharted, Killzone, LBP, Heavy Rain, MSG4, GT...those games are nothing if we could get Valve to make games for us"

Sony is doing fine with or without Valve making any games for them, they wont lose any sleep over Gabe lazy a$$ not wanting to develop for the PS3 it's Valves loss not Sonys

Remember Valve develops for Sony means more $$$ for Valve. More $$$ for valve means Gabe can eat more BigMacs and buckets of chicken.

[NotSoSilentBob]

Valve admits they made a mistake but it still doesn't make up for the fact that they did what they did why should the community support someone/thing that didn't support us?

[washingmachine]

then why dont they release a huge patch that fixes all the issues with the ps3 version,graphics and all lol. valves excuse is there just to lazy to take the time and thats all,they now see wot the ps3 can do when it comes to graphics

[-EvoAnubis-]

Doing fine without you, Valve.

[Panzerkanzler]

This is great news! With all its flaws I still enjoyed orange box greatly. Especially TF2, I've gotten innumerable hours of fun out of thst game!

[Figboy]

and NOW Valve wants to consider making PS3 games?

i'm sorry, but i think i'll stick with developers that have been working on the console for those 4 years, and are therefore more likely to produce content that pushes the console in some way.

Gabe put his foot in his mouth back in 2006, and i haven't forgotten.

i find it funny how it's completely ok to bring up the arrogance of Sony back in 2006, but when we start calling Valve and Gabe out on their anti-PS3 garbage, it's "that was a long time ago, just drop it!"

it goes both ways, but Valve did more damage to their reputation with PS3 fans than Sony PR did to the PS3.

afterall, it has a strong, 33 million user base, software sales are good, and the quality of game output has been high.

overall, the PS3 is in a good place to sustain it for the rest of this generation, and there are more great games to come.

if any of Valve's PS3 games look like Left4Dead, i'm not interested.

the Source engine was AMAZING when i first saw it...5 years ago, but it's time to update it, refine it, and bring it into the HD generation.

i don't think PC, 360, or PS3 fans should accept anything less from a developer as renowned and talented as Valve.

i mean, we get 2 Left4Dead games in a year's time, but still no Half Life Episode 3? REALLY VALVE?

personally, i'm not interested in whether or not they develop for the PS3. they burned that bridge with me years ago.

it wasn't even insulting the PS3, it was the fact that they continually insulted US, the Playstation userbase. they insulted our decision to go with Playstation instead of Xbox. they insulted the Playstation network COMMUNITY (not the service itself), and that's just bad business.

you don't insult your potential customers.

how would you feel if the execs at McDonalds called you STUPID for eating at Burger King? would that make you more inclined to eat McDonalds?

Gabe Newell, and by relation, Valve, called us Playstation fans stupid and foolish for supporting the Playstation 3 back in 2006, instead of the Xbox 360. and WHY? because the PS3 was $600, and the 360 was easier to develop for for them?

if they had said, "Well, we're primarily a PC developer, and the 360 architecture is much more like PC architecture than the PS3, so we're more comfortable and equipped to develop exclusively for the PC and 360," all would have been well.

the fact that they just HAD to get on their soap box and bemoan the multi-core processor approach of the PS3, and how it's difficult to program for, and do so in the most condescending, insulting way possible was just foolish.

and NOW they're back-peddling.

i guess the though that their games could sell an additional 1 or 2 million units on the Playstation side of things was too enticing for them to pass up.

they aren't developing on the PS3 to be "fair" and give all gamers a shot. they aren't developing on the PS3 to push the console in any significant way.

they're developing on the PS3 because that 33 million install base will make them a LOT of money.

Left4Dead series has already sold a combined, what? 4 million + units?

on the PS3, i'd imagine that they'd sell at LEAST a million. at $60 a pop, that's a LOT of extra profit for Valve, since development wouldn't be that costly, because you aren't building new video and audio assets, just learning to code for the PS3. art design, level design, and all the pre-production concepting was completed when the 360 version was made.

well, they don't have to worry about ME spending any of my hard earned money on their 4 year late efforts on the PS3.

i'll stick with seasoned PS3 developers (not just first and second party, but EA, Ubisoft, Konami, Capcom, even Square-Enix have more experience with PS3 development than Valve, and their latest software SHOWS that).

[AKS]

@Figboy

Something that I've found to very peculiar about Gabe's statements is that while he seems to despise the PS3's design, particularly the Cell and multiple SPUs, Valve is one of the most supportive of multicore CPUs in PC games. I've noticed that they have options to take advantage of multicore CPUs in their newer games because I have a quad core in my PC.

[Figboy]

considering that the 360, also, has a multi-core processor.

[Garrison]

How is Valve really pushing themselves on 2 consoles when everyone knows the 360 IS basically a PC with controllers? lol

[Charmers]

Did I say Valve was "pushing themselves" ? No I didn't say that. I have already commented that the reason the xbox 360 gets Valve games is down to the fact the 360 shares a lot in common with the PC. If it wasn't for that fact then the 360 wouldn't be getting valve games either.

I merely pointed out that Valve's comfort zone is the PC just like Naughty Dog's comfort zone is the PS3. If you must "big" up a developer at least do it with a developer that really is trying to push gaming forward, a developer like Crytek that is developing for ALL main platforms and facing REAL challenges.

[AKS]

When EA tried to port The Orange Box to the PS3, they were pretty clueless about coding for the hardware. Remember the 30 frames per second Madden fiasco? Their PS3 games blew. Since then, EA has become quite good with the PS3, especially their elite studios like Redwood/ Visceral, Criterion, DICE, and now Bioware. There are enough programmers at EA that know how to code for the PS3 that they could do a respectable job on something like Left 4 Dead. Gamers might be hesitant to trust them to do another port of a Valve game for obvious reasons, but they could do it now that they actually know the hardware.

A game that may potentially use a current version of Source could be another animal, however. Something like Half-Life 2: Episode 3 might require some planning ahead on Valve's part to make sure it ran properly on consoles, especially the PS3. Half-Life 2: Episode 2 looked gorgeous maxed out on PC, and I'd guess Episode 3 will be even tougher to run without planning ahead with the design.

I personally have all of Valve's games on Steam. I'm just offering some insights based on what I've observed regarding EA, Valve, and advancements in PS3 development over the past few years.

[DigitalAnalog]

They just watched the GOWIII GTTV show. I don't blame them.

-End statement

[slave2Dcontroller]

But but but.. the PS3 is a waste of tiiiyuuum. kcuF Valve and especially Gayb. If they want to code for the PS3, fine, whatever. Alot of my PS3 fam would like to play some of their stuff. I even wanted to play L4D2 but best believe IF I do buy a PS3 game made by Valve, it'll be used.

If they didnt want to build on the PS3 thats all fine and dandy but to publicly trash the PS3 was purely unprofessional and uncalled for. Thus they can STILL kiss my asphault.

[divideby0]

No need to Gabe already opened his mouth, unprofessionally bashing the hardware... now that PS3 sales are good.....now he can sprinkle that on his pizza and choke on it

[PS360PCROCKS]

They must of watched the GOW III footage

[iPad]

Valve: We messed up on PS3(because the architecture is too good for us and we need old technology from the 1990s)

[RagTagBnd445]

Since when has the PC been old technology?

[Ingram]

@Tobe

Since you can't get XDR ram Over 3Ghz and a PPC core with 6/8 Specialiced 128 bit floating point units from under 300~$,for example.

Core i7>Cell,Xenon

Price-Performance PS3>PC, 360>PC

Just saying

[RagTagBnd445]

The price has nothing to do with the power, consoles are sold with a loss, PC hardware is not.

[The_Nameless_One]

NOOOO...you think!

[artsaber]

Gabe must've looked at a PS3 sales trend chart inbetween donuts. If the PS3 was selling poorly, would this statement have come out? I doubt it seriously. Grass looking greener at the moment huh, Gabe?

So what happens when 360 sales start to pick back up because of another price cut or Natal works out? What a flip flopping bastard. You insult an entire gaming community fanbase, and then attempt to sale games to the same people? Ludacris.

I had fun with HL and LFD with some 360 friends and even I feel this way. He should've took a professional's attitude towards the issue in the beginning, even if he personally felt that way about the PS3 ATM. My, my, how things change.

[ikral]

Valve eats a humble pie, i´ll be damn. Now, for that flying pigs...

[nutbear96]

I'm guessing Valve are hard at work making Half-Life 2 Episode 3 and are trying to polish it up so they can make 'the big announcement of E3'. And in designing HL2 Episode 3 they have looked into PS3. That would explain all the articles saying Valve will eventually make a game for PS3. And they've realized the power of PS3 and regret handing over The Orange Box (PS3) to whatever company did make it!

[Primetimebt]

Value sucks does it matter?

[shysun]

I call bs, Gabe is a POS!

[gumgum99]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ddurand1]

bring me counterstrike 2 goddamnit...

[SlaughterMeister]

You want to restore my faith in your company? Release a patch for The Orange Box fixing the sound and the stuttery frame rate. Plus, I'd like to play Half-Life 2 and Portal without worrying about the game freezing up.

I loved that game on X-Box, and I was psyched as hell to hear it was coming to PS3, it was one of the first games I bought. Fix that, I'll love your company again.

And get busy on whatever follow-up you have planned for Ep. 2. I wanna play!

[shamon]

somebody saw the new god of war 3 trailer with gameplay

[knightoftears]

Wow, bash the PS3 community, then come crawling back with this crap. I smell a secondary agenda with this. Why the SUDDEN change of heart? If you couldn't give your best effort in the beginning then don't bother trying now. Go ahead Valve and Gabe, release your game and it will sit on the shelves. Checking daily console sales numbers I presume? Wishing you had a sale for each platform? Keep wishing. I don't want your game. I can forgive I just can't forget, you're on your own now Valve don't ask me for $h!t!

[NYC_Gamer]

well i wont buy any game they make for the ps3 anyway

[phantomexe]

There game could be worse just take a look at fallout 3 for the ps3 it crashes they fix it then it crashes again...o but it gets better. I get the downloadable content for my daughter all of it for the ps3 and it crashes until she gets tried of resetting. Bethesda is the worst deloper that i have ever seen and to this day they haven't fixed anything. Safe to say i won't be picking up fallout vegas for my daughter. Fix it bethesda u pieces of $hit.I feel better now that i vented that.

[awesomeperson]

Valve, too little too late. You have already alienated half of the PS3 userbase, although I welcome developing for the PS3. It could redeem yourselves.

Put another half assed attempt at making a PS3 port again and I guarentee no one will care about your games anymore ont he PS3 than they do now.

Anyway, I personally don't mind taking exclusives from 360, its like taking candy from babies.

[cmrbe]

Two things.

1. They are working on the PS3.
2. They admit that they screw up after saying the PS3 is a disaster when it was their fault.

[NYC_Gamer]

its too late in my opinion because after all the crap Gabe said i just cant find myself giving valve any support

[chewmystink]

Don't come crawling back, dogged how many times by Valve.
We don't need your games now that you see the PS3 has picked up a lot of steam!!!
It's funny all the haters having to eat some humble pie, what is the matter is it turning out now how the PS2 life cycle was and starting to fly off the shelf at the same period and have same quality of games to draw the masses in.
I think so, it is pretty much to the letter of how the PS2 got going with price, games and quality of games at pretty much same time periods.

[d3nworth1]

Looks like somebody had a slice of humble pie.

[ExposingLames]

Valve needs to get off the PS3's rod and go back to their FPS and microsoft platforms....get it? got it? good!

we dont want your games, they are ALL FPS games....the most overdone ran into the ground genre ever created and devs are still pumping them out a dime a dozen

they even admitted before this that the PS3 was too much for them to handle, thats why the scrubs had EA do their dirty work and then cry about it......ill stick with Insomiac, Sucker Punch, Zipper, ND, Gurrilla ect. ect. ect.

go f yourselves and dont make games for the PS kthxbye

[Henry Cain]

They see how much the PS3 is selling now they want a piece of it. Plus they see how powerful the system really is.

[UP]

Every developer/publisher that does something wrong desevers a second chance. Look at Sony they are another good example
Although Activision is getting close to unforgivable.

[phantomexe]

Does this inclued bethesda? I'm asking because not only is fallout messed up but so was there oblivion,I beleave thats 2. Oblivion game of the year my ass,your forever stuck a vampire because that old women never comes out of her basement after takeing your stuff.My bad.... i no this is about Valve but can you see my love for bethesda growing,worthless company.

[hadouken007]

theres money to be made on ps3, they want some of it. we never heard anything from them but lame excuses and hate, now they wanna be friends, i say F'em.

[Adolph Fitler]

Gabe Newell the attrocious fat bastard can keep programming for pc and 360 only. I loved Orange Box and bought it on 360 (as was better version). I then bought Left 4 Dead 1, but found it to be 1/4 of a full game for a full 100% price tag.

I think they tend to milk consumers, and release a real deal game once in a blue moon. Half Life 2 was awesome, and The Orange Box was excellent value for money, but these little half games they release in between are major milkage. Much better developers already making games for PS3, so I do not miss these guys one little bit.

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

why most of the dev doesnt seems to have problem with the ps3 anymore and valve is still crying about how hard the ps3 is hard to devellop on?

Having huge problems with the ps3 developpement is so 2007. Get with the time valve!

[sashimi]

I honestly don't care about Valve supporting Ps3 console, they haven't really made any game that is interesting for awhile.L4D medicore survival horror, the HL series better on PC and the episodes are really short.They should just stick to PC/Xbox360 since clearly they don't know how to work with different hardware beside PC.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

They mess it up is because they were a bunch of lazy ass DEV. And didn't even care for PS3 cause they knew they wouldn't sell lots of units of Orange Box which the game really sucks ass anyway. I could care less for VALVE.

[John Marston]

Wow! seriously Valve? You hypocrites! after all the bash you gave to the PS3, now you suddenly care about it? please dont make me puke all over my monitor. Thanks a lot but... we dont need you.

[seifer085]

I would love Valve to support my ps3. We can't fault the whole company for the unprofessional ism, since the only ps3 bashing idiots were 2 fat guys who names I forgot.

Valve is a great company and ps3 people know quality so I say just bring us L4D and peace is made in my book.

Keep in mind I have the ps3 orange box and love it!

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I'm sure if Valve makes a game for PS3 it will do well, and there won't be much backlash from their loose lips. No one's going to Australia.

I do hope this is a sign that Half Life is coming soon though. There is a reason those smart farts are looking at the PS3, and it probably isn't a new IP or non-AAA title.

*Imagines Half Life Collection on Blu-Ray*

Hey! It could happen.

* Calls to tell Kaz to send over a case each of Mochi Mochi Mushi Pan and Strawberry Pocky - Gabe's faves - along with his best boys to help them out.*

[arakouftaian]

G.N
saying sorry ti the PS3 owners
know iwill do a diet
and be skiny
on honor to the PS fans
i hope you PS fans forgive me

[dredgewalker]

I have enjoyed my PS3 for the past 2 years without any Valve games and im still worrying on how to get more cash for games coming out this year. If they can offer me something that can grab my attention from developers like ND, Insomniac, Team ICO and many other first party developers that gave me the best bang for my buck then they are welcome. If they cant offer me that then its best that they just stay where they are and just not say anything more offensive.

[foreverflame]

The reason why left 4 dead cant be on the ps3 because the graphics are too much for the ps3 too handle it cant handle the 4 player co-op,100000 zombies on the screen.Valve i hope u stick with the 360,the xbox makes all visions come true.

[dredgewalker]

I dont believe that you are actually a troll. You might be someone from N4G stirring up the fanboys in order to get this place more lively. Your username also confirms my suspicion of this.....its really like throwing more wood to the fire.

[oldskoolgamer]

lol

[Sigh]

Not only dumb forever, but also Bungie, GreenRingOfLife I think of also with your views. I honestly think these guys drive people mad on purpose-- to get traffic.

[Lookbehind]

Forever Lame.................

[ShadowJetX]

To be Captain Obvious, but didn't we all already know this?

I myself have never tried the orangebox for PS3 (or any of them), but I've seen some else play it, and from what I've seen, they did less the a halfassed jerb.

[granthinds]

Hectic. But this seems tho be the case with most products developed at that time on the PS3.

[Bigboss19]

Counter Strike 2 for PS3 would be sweet of course with a new graphic engine

[AKS]

There's more to Valve than Gabe Newell. He's clearly made a huge ass of himself on multiple occasions, but as for the rest of Valve they have some exceptionally talented people there.

[Ingram]

From a humble & mildly ignorant POV:

Don't use Source in PS3, Use Phyre engine, Use PS3 EDGE tools.

[Ingram]

Please, for the love of god, don't outsource development again and say "We are not responsible for this mess"

[hardcorez]

At least they admit it.

[dredgewalker]

Too late with valve. I mean theyre gonna play catch up with the
PS3 when a lot of devs now know how to tap into its potential to make great looking games? I didn't even play L4D 1 that long cause it got boring easily and Counterstrike was made by the modding community which they stole from and didn't even give them credit. My list of PS3 games to buy this year is long and i dont have time or money for a new or old game that wouldn't interest me.

[SephireX]

Valve are a very talented developer. Half Life 2 is arguably the best fps game ever made and I really like L4D. However, I can't understand why they haven't tried harder with the PS3 hardware. They should have mastered it a long time ago. From a business standpoint, Valve should be aiming at the PS3 market, especially because more and more people are buying PS3s now. You're not a gamer if you don't have a PS3 so Valve need to get their act together, get a hold of the cell architecture and bring their games to PS3. They need to do it now because development will only get tougher with the PS4 and we are less than three years away from it.

[axerated]

less than 3 years away from ps4? did i miss sumthing? what happened to the 10 year plan?

[e-p-ayeaH]

money rules all instead anything else.

[arny]

wtf is orange box

[sid4gamerfreak]

u dont know wat orange box is? Which world have u been in?

[stuntman_mike]

Obviously its an Orange Box??

[axerated]

of an article i read about a year ago saying that valve were warming to the idea of ps3 development, and were waiting until they had built a strong in-house team of ps3 devs before pursuing the idea. still not materialised ey valve? still throwing the same statements out there ey valve? still using the source engine ey valve? one day, one day...

[Stedron]

"wtf is orange box"

Joking or not thats funny :)

[Copyright]

Half-Life 2 was my firt time playing a Half-Life game. I didn't really see the game as a huge leap or as being above other FPS games. I wonder if I had played it when it originally came out on the PC, if I would have viewed it differently, or maybe perhaps the PS3 version is the worst version and that's why I missed something in it?

[silkrevolver]

And don’t you dare outsource it!

[cliffbo]

you do realize what this means 360 owners. everybody was trying to make out the PS3 was inferior when this game released (as you do with every multiplatform that is inferior. not so when it's the other way around. odd that) but this proves once and for all that it was bad development. simple as that