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Lens of Truth: BioShock 2 Analysis

Lens of Truth writes, "The Lens of Truth team had the opportunity to drill into BioShock 2 to find out which is better. Read on to find out which version is definitively labeled "Big Daddy"."

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thabigboss5202d ago

either way im getting it for pc

mynd5202d ago

What interests me the most is the "fallen is babylon" screen.
No fuzzy wuzzy image like that other website posted.
Seems to me we can pretty much dismiss that "other" website, they seem to screw stuff up all the time.

Blaze9295202d ago

wow what the hell happened to "all versions are equal"? This is a CLEAR difference.

Harry_Manback5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

Is that the RROD in the second pic?

I kid, I KID!!

The 360 version does seem to have the edge here but no biggie.

Edit: Whoa! The lower 3 pics clearly show a big difference. What the hell went wrong here?

Bigpappy5202d ago

Anyone seeing a difference here is nikpicking. Lens of truth do great work. The numbers and the visuals show very little difference (As even as a port could get).

BlackTar1875202d ago

but the water on the 360 looks amazing compared to the ps3. I give the winner to the 360 just for that reason.

again most of this stuff you will not notice while playing its only loser who sit there and are like OMGZZZZ

but 360 wins to me.

darthv725202d ago

I wonder if sometimes these comparison sites ever purposely mix up the screens to see if people even notice.

I see so much about having the ps3 set to certain settings for hdmi and yet I dont even really mess with those on mine. I don't even think the 360 has advanced hdmi settings to adjust...or does it?

StanLee5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

One thing about the XBox 360 version; I think the better frame rate is the reason for the screen tearing as in the case of Darksiders, the game's framerate may not be locked. But again, just wait for Digital Foundry's comparison as they do a much better and much more comprehensive comparison.

DaTruth5202d ago

They waited for the textures to load in both versions this time? Because in the last comparison where PS3 won, they apparently didn't wait for the textures to load on the 360 version!

I will wait for the comparison from the site that always favours my console of choice!/s

OGharryjoysticks5202d ago

Is it performance or graphics, or both?

Screen tearing is something that is visible and rather annoying so it should actually matter more in a graphic evaluation.

If that doesn't make sense to you then you probably don't mind looking at it since it's not like slowdown where your game performance is actually effected.

Corepred45202d ago

i'm usually a fan of lens of truth's review but i didn't like this one. it wasn't really there fault though since they do out of the box review. hopefully we find a review that matches each consoles brightness/darkness. sometimes being darker hides things. not saying the 360 version is hiding anything, but i would just like a better comparison. lol i'm still laughing at those robot candles on the ps3. come on i thought developers would be over the hump by now. oh well. i'll prob gamefly it to see if the ps3 version really is that blurry.

IdleLeeSiuLung5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

The article never mentioned this, but it looks so blurry to me. Odd considering the resolution is the same. Maybe it is in the picture taking?

It seems like the blurriness should dwarf all the other issues.... Anyone else seeing it.

starchild5202d ago

Ok so the differences are that the 360 has shorter load times, better looking water effects, higher resolution textures in some parts, better ripple animations, very slightly higher frames per second (28.40 vs 29.52), very slightly more screen tearing (.42 vs 2.39), no mandatory install, and a sharper clearer look overall. The 360 version wins this one hands down.

dirthurts5202d ago

Yeah I see that too...I'm not sure why that would be. Like you said they are said to be at the same resolution. The only two possible reasons would be either the PS3 is actually a lower res than stated, or the PS3 versions doesn't support upscaling.

ProjectVulcan5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

The gap between them is miniscule in relative terms. As much aggrieved as i am at how the PC port does not take much advantage of the platform, it blows the console version away on all the aspects tested here, and i dont mean only on a massively expensive gaming PC...If you only have a console, dont make such a fuss about tiny differences. Enjoy the game

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junk-3d5202d ago

Wow, the PlayStation 3 environment reflections look pretty bad.

darkecho5202d ago

Seriously. The DOF has gotta be busted on the PS3.

Sm0k3y_Bac0n5202d ago

Wow. The PS3 screen shots look REALLY bad next to the 360 ones. Surely it cant be that bad?? Those candle flames are square. WTF!

commodore645201d ago (Edited 5201d ago )

I agree.

Surely the ps3 version can't look THAT bad?
Did LOT make a mistake?

The PS3 ground textures are blurry as hell, the PS3 candle flames are blocky, the PS3 AA is nonexistant, and it takes MUCH longer to load (Even with mandatory install).

The only edge the ps3 has in this game is 2.3% less frametear, but even that is probably due to the slower ps3 framerate.

2010? ... check.
Inferior ps3 multiplat? ... check

Shogun Master5202d ago

I'm playing this now, its a little dissapointing compared to the first. I'm happy I got it for the 360.

The Maxx5202d ago

Wow clear difference. The 360 version is much better. I thought after all the lashings 2K took over the crappy Bioshock 1 port, they would have had the games closer in graphics and performance. Oh well.

evildeli5202d ago

Well, at least it didn't take 2k a year to port Bio2

Pennywise5202d ago

Tearing and framerate is worse on the 360. I don't think its THAT clear of a winner.

Shaman5202d ago

Framerate is better on 360,but screen tearing is worse,look it up.

lowcarb5202d ago

I don't think there's a huge difference but the 360 version does look better.If PS3 version is having a hard time keeping up one should wonder why they gimped the 360 version to keep both looking fairly similar.

Pennywise5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

It's 1 FRAME PER SECOND better. ONE. Hardly a clear winner there.

Yes, the 360 gives us 1 more frame per second, but 5% more screen tearing.

I am playing it on the PS3. This all really doesn't matter.

testerg355202d ago

Pennywise, I thought the 360 had better fps?

Sm0k3y_Bac0n5202d ago (Edited 5202d ago )

Have you not seen the screen shots Penny? 360 looks a lot better from these. And apart from the first clip the screen tearing is pretty much the same.

I think I'll have to play the game before i judge. I find it hard top believe there could be this muchx difference between the two versions.

And Penny. The difference between the average frame tearing from this evidence is less than 1%

junk-3d5202d ago

If it weren't from the long load times on the PS3 it would have caused a tie. It really is unacceptable to have a 4gb install and still have longer loading times. That is almost half the size of the game!

Antan5202d ago

You would notice the screen tear more than you would notice such a small difference in framerate. Aside from that, looks to be the usual UE3 syndrome between the 2.

^^Lowcarb^^Going by your logic, im assuming the 360 was holding back the PC version as the texture detail on the PC is nigh on the same? Screen resolutions aside. Your knowledge of game development is suspect at best.

Shaman5202d ago

Ok it has 1 frame per sec better but YOU said it has worse frame rate so thats why I said that,screen tearing is worthless to me because its 2 % but better textures and water reflections sure matter.

Pennywise5202d ago

OK, I agree. With the install size the loading should be LOWER. PS3 loses there.

But the difference of textures is not something that would bother me being I am only playing one version. Screen tearing WOULD bother me and I couldnt ignore it just because of better textures and water.

I just feel like the tearing is being forgiven because of the console it is on.

IdleLeeSiuLung5202d ago

Screen tearing is an issue and so is low texture resolution.

Both can be pretty annoying, and I would rather take low resolution texture rather than screen tearing. With that said, the screen tearing is so minimal that in this case I would rather take the screen tearing over the lower resolution texture.

The Maxx5202d ago

Here we go again...the media's biased....Give it a rest already. If you are so upset thinking there is some kind of conspiracy in the western media, then stop reading the western media and look elsewhere.

starchild5202d ago

From Penywise's comment: "Tearing and framerate is worse on the 360. I don't think its THAT clear of a winner."

Give me a break. The difference in screen tearing is so minuscule as to be nearly insignificant.

In the Aliens vs Predator comparison it was found that the PS3 version had 23.5% of its frames torn, while the 360 version only had 2.51% of its frames torn. That is a huge difference, yet we still had people say they didn't see any tearing in the PS3 version (I certainly did though). If some people didn't even notice the PS3 version of AvP tearing 23.5% of the time there is no way in the world that people are going really take issue with a 1.97% difference in Bioshock 2.

The differences in clarity, textures and water quality on the other hand will be noticeable the entire game. Having to wait for longer load times throughout the game will also be noticeable.

Let's be honest here, the 360 version is clearly the better looking game.

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stealyrface5202d ago

I just finished it last night and overall it was a big let down. Nothing that made the ORIGInAL what it was returned. Hopefully a patch will be released for the PS3.

jaidek5202d ago

Just started playing it, but man that makes me sad. The first one was so well conceived.

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Netflix announces Bioshock film in the works

One of the most popular video game franchises of all time is set to receive a Netflix film adaptation, according to an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

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-Foxtrot815d ago

Gee...can't wait to see how many things they change and stray away from, oh don't forget the miscast actors

Neonridr815d ago

I have such high hopes because the first game is so near and dear to me. That being said, I'm sure they will mess it up. I'm hoping it's adult rated, and violent. I want to see a Big Daddy put that drill to good use :P

camel_toad813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

They're great at butchering stuff but there have also been some gems and surprises.

I never in my life thought I'd like a series based on League of Legends but it was pretty great.

Maybe just maybe they'll do Bioshock justice.

cheetah813d ago

Priority checklist
- Pander to POC
- Pander to woman
- Pander to LGBTQ
- Story

In that order

Silly Mammo813d ago

Damn! It sure sucks when white men aren't the sole focus of everything! Why can't these fringe groups be kept on the fringes like the good ole days?!? /s

senorfartcushion813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Virgin detector

*****SCREEEECH*****

Vx_813d ago

Remove the story and I totally agree with the list

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senorfartcushion813d ago

You can cast who you want as a director. Don’t be sulky.

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Knightofelemia814d ago

Netflix did well with Dare Devil and the Punisher and I hear the Witcher is pretty good I know when I had Netflix at the time Stranger Things was also good. But Bioshock I love the franchise Bioshock Infinite is my favorite game I would pay the $21 Canadian just to check out Bioshock. Normally I would never renew my Netflix after they did their price hike but Bioshock would be worth it.

LoveSpuds814d ago

When firing on all cinders, Netflix do produce some brilliant stuff so I am not feeling pessimistic at all here. If Netflix deliver to their potential then this could be incredible given the quality of the source material. Personally, I am quite excited.

EvertonFC814d ago

Agreed, Netflix originals etc are fantastic in general, it's rare I don't like something they do.
Certainly not feeling negative with Netflix doing bioshock quite the opposite infact.

Ashunderfire86813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Bu bu bu bu but what about Cowboy Beebop though? That was a little miss opportunity. Just a little nervous that Bioshock could turn to crap 💩 like that show. If they do a Horizon Zero Dawn show, I hope they don’t screw that up as well. I know a few good actresses that could play Aloy like Jon Snow’s girlfriend from Game of Thrones, and his wife in real life. Definitely see Aloy in her.

Livingthedream814d ago

Netflix does a lot of great things, recently finished the first season of Arcane and it was brilliant.

MadLad813d ago

Arkane was so damn good.
I just hope they keep up the quality with later releases.

I'm not even a LoL player.

Livingthedream813d ago

I’m sure they will, I don’t play the games either, I love the fact that I didn’t need to play them to enjoy it.

Michiel1989813d ago

Arcane was insanely good imo, I was hooked almost all the way. Im not sure of this but i think Netflix didnt have much to do with the production of the show? More like they just bought the rights to have it exclusively on there?

Some of their original shows are really good so im quite hopeful this might turn out to be a good show. Lets hope they wont F it up.

Nacho_Z814d ago

Love Bioshock but I'll prepare myself for the likelihood this will be both crap and a pale imitation of the source material. That covers most video game adaptations and Netflix films.

dumahim814d ago

How many have they done? It sounds like Witcher and Castlevania have done well.

Nacho_Z814d ago

I meant Netflix films in general, there are some good ones but most are average at best in my experience. Castlevania is good but I didn't like The Witcher, although it is successful.

Not sure if there are any live action video game film adaptations on Netflix as yet but they don't have a great track record.

dumahim814d ago

@ Nacho
For movies, I think it’s very difficult to cram he narrative from a 10+ hour game into 2 hours. I think that’s why series are much better suited for video game adaptations. Seems we have a bunch coming up, so we’ll see how well it plays out.

Terry_B814d ago

Why are PS2 and Wii and even the PS Vita tagged?

Atom666814d ago

The Vita tag stung a little bit extra.

Atticus_finch814d ago

Starring Tom Holland I'm guessing.

FlavorLav01814d ago

Haha. Now if it was a Sony movie, very likely

Outlawzz814d ago

Lol the Tom Holland craze is real

Terry_B814d ago

Kevin Nash is going to play the..Big Daddy.

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Ranking the BioShock Games From Worst to Best

The best games are able to create a never-before-seen setting and weave a completely engaging story into its DNA. One series beats almost all others out for its environmental storytelling and narrative: BioShock.

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Inverno986d ago

Infinite better than 2? No way

roadkillers986d ago

IMO Infinite is better than 2... The only thing I remember from 2 is playing as a little sister. It felt too much like Bioshock (which wasn't bad). Infinite was the right stepping stone.

Inverno986d ago

Infinite was a huge step back. It played like a generic fps because it was dumbed down to be an fps and it's not at all the gameplay evolution Bioshock needed. It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries against dumb AI while making you look for health in trash cans cause they removed mechanics that worked in favor for a more action oriented gameplay.
I think people are remembering Infinite all wrong.
It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio.

LucasRuinedChildhood986d ago (Edited 986d ago )

@Inverno

"It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries"
Sounds more applicable to Bioshock 2, tbh. B2 has wave-based gameplay where Subject Delta casually goes through large hordes of splicers to protect Little Sisters. C'mon. I still wouldn't call any of the Bioshocks mindless shooters though.

If you want to criticize the lack of the weapon wheel and the replacement of certain mechanics in Infinite in favour of increased mobility (e.g. addition of the sky-hook), fair enough, but the story and world-building of 2 are less memorable, noteworthy and interesting than Infinite by a huge margin. Most people don't even remember much beyond the basic premise of 2 (including any of the characters) because it felt so unnecessary. It's not even close.

"It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio." Needing to use Bioshock 1 to criticize Infinite instead of 2 is an admission that 2's story is the weakest.

roadkillers986d ago

@Inverno

I remember it being very imaginative and a breath of fresh air, while still being familiar. The last hour or two was big on shooting.

SegaSaturn669986d ago

Infinite was the most boring and repetitive in terms of gameplay. It lost the suspenseful atmosphere of the first 2

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SonyPS360985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

Am I reading that backwards or are you really shocked that people like infinite more than 2?

Just wanna make sure I have it right because you're literally the first person I've seen say that 2 is better.

Inverno985d ago

I understand 2 is more of the same but I much prefer more of the same than going backwards in terms of gameplay. It wasn't the step in the right direction. But thats just my opinion, I'm not surprised at all. Just to me I much rather the first 2. However what they had planned for Infinite originally sounded very interesting and it sucks we won't ever see it

Concertoine985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

Imo 2 is tied with 1 as my favorite Bioshock. The gameplay is the natural evolution of the first, with more freedom to experiment. The story and locales are more intimate and less grandiose than you would see in a Ken Levine story. I love the atmospheric break of the underwater sections and never understood the hate for them. All 3 games have pacing issues but imo 2’s are less severe. The level design has a lot of ex-Looking Glass alumnis and is generally more open ended.

The endings are more tailored to your moral choices than the other games.

Infinite hedges on a admittedly cool twist that is poorly executed when scrutinized. The gameplay takes a huge step back, it isnt the game that early gameplay and trailers promised. The world is less fleshed out. It was prescient politically and that makes it interesting but otherwise i have no desire to replay it.

Yui_Suzumiya985d ago

2 had better gameplay but 3 had a better story

leahcim986d ago (Edited 986d ago )

Hurts to see the word "worst" related to Bioshock saga.
The 3 games are masterpieces.

ScootaKuH986d ago

Bioshock 2
Bioshock
Bioshock Infinite

That was easy

Rebel_Scum986d ago

oh great. Can’t wait to see the posts of game titles in a ranked order without context as to why.

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BioShock 2's director reveals what could have been a different BioShock

In a podcast with Wassup Conversations, Jordan Thomas, director and the writer of BioShock 2 reveals his initial ideas for a new rapture and how they were shut down by 2K.
"My first proposal was about a little sister, it was playing as a little sister and it was much more horror-oriented pace and about vulnerability, closer to Thief frankly, but I was told no, we want it to be our Gears of War, this need to be a big shooter franchise with an emphasis on the shooter element, and so what I think of the protagonist of a shooter as is a big lumbering sort of porthole on a stick with guns sticking out in front like you’re almost a vehicle."

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plainview10301506d ago

And he also wanted it to be above the sea or in space. What a wasted opportunity.

Nacho_Z1505d ago

It's surprising the game turned out to be good with this guy at the helm. The combat mechanics were actually the biggest improvement in the sequel as much as he wouldn't want to hear that, everything else was inferior.