"For years the SOCOM series has covered all of Sony's consoles and has since then solidified itself as one of the top contenders that it has on its side. The newest edition to the Fireteam series continues the trend of squad based tactics while also adding some new elements into the mix..." - Just Push Start
"Sony's PlayStation Network has come a long way since its debut on the PlayStation 3 and has consistently received praise for remaining free unlike Xbox LIVE, Microsoft's competitor. While this is an excellent aspect of the PlayStation Network for PlayStation gamers, the negative results have had its showing throughout the past and just recently with an announcement from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe."
-TheGamerAccess.com
Sony definitely needs to improve on a lot of things involving their online service. Some things changed up can make the experience on PSN a whole lot better.
like what? name something. im so sick of trolls talking smack about psn when there is nothing wrong with it. its incredible, IF i want ps+ i get free games and so much more ect...if i dont want to pay, thats fine.
Support? like charging you to use netflix? charging you to play online ? and support? i get supported with tons of free games and cloud services free themes ect, not to mention pc/ps3 cross-play? do you have that? and nice touch on that "SONY" remark, pretty mature.
I prefer PSN over XBL for two reasons:
1. I don't HAVE to pay to play online.
2. I don't have to listen to ignorant and racist comments from stupid kids.
Sony may need to improve stuff like match-making, but that's all they need to change, not the pricing model!
@gaffyh,
Hilarious comments. BTW I hear little kids yelling racist ignorant comments on PSN all the time.
Just another FAIL article from Nick. I think Nick would be better at scalping tickets in front of a stadium.
On topic, I own a 360 and a PS3. Since buying my 360 around 3 or 4 months ago, I haven't turned it on for the last two months. I don't find LIVE to be anything special. I don't need to leave voice messages, and while cross game chat is nice, I could really care less about it. The minute Sony starts charging for online play, is the point in time where I become a 100% PC gamer.
@ Laxman
No. It's not because Microsoft charges $60 per year that XBL has better "support, reliability, features". That's nonsense that only a loyal, invested fanboy could muster.
It's because Microsoft has been in the online gaming space longer with more experience and they have a lot to lose if they let their service decline, so they stay competitive.
Believe me when I say, Sony have found their model for charging users, and that goes by the name of PS+. All Sony needs to do is continue adding value to it with certain requested major features and keep the online free and they're set. One of Sony's fundamendal edges is consumer choice, and looking at their strategy with PS+ it makes no sense to be charging for online play when something like Plus exists.
Increase the enticement of your service with pure value, and people will warm to it. That is their strategy. MS's strategy is keep charging for online, increase the price every now and again, and keep adding features that aren't related to gaming (that are free to everyone else). Keeps them in good shape financially, but doesn't do anything for my respect towards them.
It's not poor form from "$ony" that their services aren't as solid as Live either. It's fairly impressive that their services are as good as they are, compared to the start of this gen if anything.
Now I know it's hard for some of you Xbox fans to accept but Sony has a culture of offering consumers choice. You don't even have to be a fanboy to notice this. They have always offered the most diverse games and been about open platforms, free options. That will not change, and that makes my experience better than cross-game chat on the Xbox. For me, PS+ is better than XBL Gold any day of the week, since GAMES >>>>>>> FEATURES! And like I mentioned - features that are free everywhere else. Lol.
Like what?? it's free. It works. so who's complaining? cause clearly its not me.
Another ridiculous observation from the same site.
Failed journalistic pustules.
Think about this. You buy a game. Eula arguments about ownership aside, you pay for all of the game. If the game has Single Player you pay for that. If the game has Single Player and Multiplayer you pay for that. If the game is Multiplayer only you pay for that. It's your game.
Now along comes a company that says, "Hold on there a minute. We don't care if you paid for that Multiplayer. You do not get to use that part unless you pay us money on the side."
It's a form of legalized extortion really. Never mind if that game appears on 5 other platforms without such intrusion and demand. This one company is intent upon forcing you to pay more money without concern you already pay to access the internet. They want a cut.
There is no choice. You don't pay, you don't play. Right off the bat a service that provides layered choices that serve the player is already light years ahead. It's confounding anyone would think otherwise. Maybe that's the issue. There wasn't any thinking involved when this piece was thrown together and came crawling out of the dust bin screaming for a webhit.
So look here Nicky. Before you get any more bright ideas you need to start thinking these absurd, erred postulations through with a bit more thoroughness.
And remember everyone, go up to the top and click on the blue gamerabcess.com and vote the site and story according to their quality.
"Support, reliability, features"
Support? http://www.destructoid.com/...
It takes a media circus just to get real support from the XBL team.
Reliability? http://www.joystiq.com/2007...
Yeah, yeah, PSN was down for month. That doesn't change the fact that XBL had a long term issue itself. And occasional maintenance is not a lack of reliability.
Features? Crosschat and......what? Features that are free elsewhere? A cable box function that can be done better and get all the channels with....well, a cable box?
PSN provides what I need from a game console for free; gaming. And between PSN and PC, I don't see why I should be paying for online play. PSN even manages to have a pay service that adds things without forcing me to pay to play online.
Laxman got reported for trolling? Silly, sensitive fanboys
Edit: Morganfell, there is a choice. Don't buy a 360. Since your whole argument revolves around multi-plats that solves the problem.
The thing I gripe about Xbox is that if I have to pay the full price. Which lets get one thing right here how many of use have? We are all smarter then that and pay 45 to 50 bucks and not the 60. I pay for something and I dont want to see ads. I love my ps3 since day one I got my Xbox and try it out for a year but for some stuff the have a Internet problems here and their was not worth it to me. I can't even message my friends because I don't have gold. I did like the music service they had but I am not paying 50 bucks a year for it, rather spend the money on a roku box. (which I did)
Most games that don't run their own servers, you have to find the right room with a goo enough speed. (and no I am not running no p.o.s 3 mbs when I was getting up to 20 and stuff boot me out for time outs wtf. I like the apps Xbox uses but I will wait till they hit the psn before I pay again.
Give me a break. I enjoy PSN and I'm happy that it's nothing like LIVE.
STOP these articles NOW! You may have gotten away with it for a few years when LIVE was better (by a fraction) but I'm sorry but PSN is far better than LIVE. It's over as far as I'm concerned. Once upon a time your argument was valid but now it is vacuous
Well said.
Xbox players say that they are happy to pay for Live for all the features it provides therefore people should stop saying it should be free, well then the same goes for PSN.
Stop saying that Sony should charge for PSN. What ever features Live has that PSN doesn't, PSN users are fine without it. I really don't see any feature that warrants me paying an extra fee just to get access to the other half of my game that I paid full retail price for.
Sony does not need to charge for PSN. PSN users are fine with PSN as it already is. The PS+ model works just fine.
I'd assume a significant portion of "N4G" posters here are dedicated to our "hobby" of "adult electronic entertainment" i.e "gaming" to have both consoles and services. I have both and get alot of enjoyment from the two in different degrees. especially since I started gaming on a Magnovox Odyssey in 1978! Back then if I bought a game that needed a patch.. tough luck! Online was unheard of! Seems to me gamers today are kindof spoiled and unappreciative of what we have to game with!
That said, PSN being free and the majority of games have an online component really makes MS's service sub-par to PSN's imho! I paid $600.00+ for my box, pay my monthly cable broadband fee, and paid for my $60.00 game, paying to play, to me, is redundant to say the least!
For multiplatforms the online experience is the same on PSN. SO why should I pay for this service ?
No Xbox needs to adopt sony's price model...OF FREE...
I pay for PS Plus, but hell they give you games, I have totally come out ahead of the yearly fee for plus, with the amount of free stuff I get.
I Think Sony needs to improve on things like there network going down, sometimes everything on my Playstation works except for the store... its frustrating.
I'm pretty sure xbox would have a higher % of there players online if they could at the very least play games online for free...
Other than making people pay for it xbox live and PSN are the same, they both offer tons of content other than gaming, they both have problems, and the both could be better, but then again Playing games on pc online also has it's issues... we can all agree on one thing nintendo needs to do some serious catching up when it comes to online gaming.
I really see nothing wrong with PSN and any real update is only going to come when they can overhaul entirely for new hardware.
Besides that if Sony keeps the Free to game model its more than likely people will come back to them when they are tired of paying for XBL.
Nintendo sees free to game as a positive measure as well.
What the hell does it need? U log on and u play games online.... seriously its free and offers pretty much everything xbox has. Wtf more do u need to play a game online? Seriously, anwser this question.
I wouldn't mind if it was the same price as ps+ and that it included all the ps+ benefits.
This fails on one major point. A major selling point is free online with the option of a subscription service (which is very good). The shutting down servers is partly to do with money but just because he plays these game doesn't mean everyone does anymore. I wonder how many people do. Even with a subscription model I would expect these servers to be still shutting down because it probably still wouldn't be cost effective to have them.
Yea they need to allow free online just with a subscription that has added benefits so you have options.
Exactly. Servers shutting down really has nothing to do with subscriptions. If I was paying $50 a year for PSN, MotorStorm isn't going to magically gain players. If anything, it would lose players. Force people to choose between paying and not playing, and you're undoubtedly going to reduce the number of players who actually can play.
As much as I loved Pacific Rift, I'm done with it. So are most people. I'd like to see the servers for such a fantastic game stay open, but I'd rather not pay a yearly fee just so I have the option to go back to it only to find nobody else playing.
there is any lag on PSN(like GoW 1/2 on Xbox 360). I don't want to pay $60 just to talk with my "friends" cross-game.
Meh cross game chat is a pretty basic feature. If I have it for free on Vita and Steam and the quality is equally as good as cross game chat on Xboxlive, why should I even pay for it?
XperiaRay
After almost 10 years of what numerous gamers proclaim has been the “greatest 3rd Person Shooter of all-time”, Sony has announced that the previous generations of the SOCOM servers will close on August 31, 2012.
What I do not get is why does Sony not just do an HD re-release of Socom 2 (which many socom loyalists say is the best) and just put the MP portion onto the PSN and see how that goes.
Thats exactly what I've been saying. Its a no brainer that a re-release of Socom 2 would top the charts on the Playstation Store. I would love for Sony Santi Monica, or maybe even Sucker Punch to try to make an authentic online Socom just release a bunch of maps from all the PS2 Socom games, then Sony could hire Bluepoint Studios (GoW1 & 2 remake) to remake all the campaigns from the PS2 Socoms. I loved all of the Socom games on PS2. Most of the people on my friends list I met back in the Socom 2/3 days :(
@ TechGear,
I think you're the dumbest thing I've ever heard of !
You damn Noob ! LMFAO
@TechGear
Not everybody is a slave to CoD, besides, with a brand new release every twelve months a HD remake would be a waste of time.
Why are they shutting servers down if Fans like it so much?
I think games should be supported alot longer. I currently play Dota and CS which are both over 10 years old and still supported. I would be furious if i couldnt play those 2 games.
@Tech Gear
This is where I'd use my "Reach through the computer screen and punch the troll in the face" Card.
Because Sony is stupid. They'd rather focus on shooters no one plays online like Killzone and resistance
They really should do a Legacy Version of Socom and make it HD with all the maps from all the console Socom Titles (new and old) I am glad to see that Socom 4 and Confrontation are not on that list. I just finished playing a few rounds of both earlier this morning. Really surprised to see how may folks still play Confrontation (It took Slant 6 several patches, but the game plays great) and also it is nice to see alot of folks still playing Socom 4. Really sucks that Zipper had to bite it, but there was such a negative presence on their forums...all the real fans were playing the game while the whiners and negative folks posted Zipper out of existance. Sad really. :.(
Socom 2 in HD sounds like something I would buy again. I rarely pay for rehashed games just because they are in HD, but Socom 2 would definitely get my money.
What they need to do is to make all of the Socom boards out of the new Socom engine and put it out free as DLC to Socom4; that will appease most Socom players plus get more sales to the Socom game.
Because you know they will botch the job.
all they would have to do is add HD texture packs and add in the Multi player element upgraded. kinda like the legend of zelda ocarina 64 HD update on emulators. its simple
Thinking about it, the announcement is coming oddly just before E3....so who knows. Sony obviously loves the HD collections to death, it is still possible.
@TechGear
COD isn't even what it used to be either, its just rehash after rehash that the COD zombies eat up every year like dumb asses.
Zipper should have done what activision did. Come out with a new game with the same gameplay with new maps every year. They would have made $$$millions!
If you look at that Playstation Blog Share program that never really took off, it's been in the top 15 since it first started.
Such a large demand, and Sony for some just turns on the blinders. I don't get it.
Such great childhood memories :(
Same here. Socom was my first foray into the online tactical shooter realm. I absolutely cannot believe that Sony isn't working to preserve the Socom brand with something other than the lame Socom 4.
Just dish out a remastered Socom 2 with full online support, Sony. 99% of your Socom fans would jump for joy if you did this. It's not that hard to see.
Yep Socom and now Metal Gear Online 2 (ps3) getting shut down this summer. The best third person TACTICAL shooters. Such a pity. Now we're stuck with all these lame games like COD (and BF3 is a great game, but not like socom and mgo).
The online game that made me start gaming online. SOCOM and SOCOM 2 were the best. Great memories, incredible fun... This game is missed.
It really is a sad day... the game that started the Online Multiplayer for Shooters in Consoles :(
I certainly wouldn't call it a hit... :/ It was fun and I knew a few people who played it a couple of times, but it wasn't a commercial hit. Great game though! The same goes for Unreal Tournament on Dreamcast/PS2.
No, not like SOCOM. When SOCOM 2 came out you could look at the numbers of people online. There were more people in SOCOM 2 than on all of Xbox Live. The numbers were ridiculous and that game ate the lives of numerous people.
Nothing has ever equated to victory like winning Enowapi as a SEAL.
@ Forza...not you again, your comparing 2010/11 XBL #'s to copies sold of a ps2/xbox/PC game.
He was clearly talking about the same timeframe back on the original xbox (not 360).
You love those facts, but you didn't even read what he said: "When SOCOM 2 came out..." That was 9 years ago.
Your comment is full of trollolololol.
Come back with 2003 numbers for XBL then compare.
It was actually Unreal Tournament. People played that more than Quake. That game was a blast. Cant play those fast paced shooters anymore though. Serious twitch fest. Socom 1 and 2 had people awake until 2am knowing they had school in the morning. I had to work at 730 and I would be up until 3am back in 2002/2003. Socom was definitely a console seller.
Morganfell-You're right up until you mentioned XBL to an extent. When Halo 2 went online, the game started to change because then Rainbow Six and Halo ruled online. BTW, Enowapi was the worst map next to Darkness Falls. Everyone knows Desert Glory was the #1 map. That's why they always included it redone with every Socom.
ha ha ha forza. you are comparing a current gen title to last gen? ha ha ha.
don't you peeps get it. socom 2 was more popular than all of live when socom 2 was out an the hot ps2 title. most peeps moved to s3 when it came out.
for people that claim to be on the ball there sure are some here slow on the uptake.
well forza since you like to cross platforms when comparing numbers, do ya wanna talk cross gen sales? see how that works?
I like how you act like Microsoft's little cheerleader in articles that have nothing to do with Microsoft...
Socom on PS2 opened me up to Shooters and Online Gaming in general. To this day I still consider Socom 2+3 two of the best online experiences I've ever had.
I still find myself bringing up the old PS2 days, going over a friends house to play for hours and hours on end, just because I had a crappy internet connection.
Primarily and Xbox gamer here but I did enjoy the shit out of the first two Socom games. The first one that came out was awesome and it was (i think, correct me if i'm wrong) the first PS2 game that came with a head set so you could use voice commands.
Sad times.
A Look Back at the Past SOCOM Games
One of the things that fails this entire series is lack of promotion by SCEE, since day 1 socom has had almost 0 advertising in the EU, most people don't even know it exists or think its an FPS.
Ok, why have I never played these games?
They sound right up my alley. The tactics, the stealth, the squad commands.
I'd always thought they were aimed more at online play, I never realised the single player was so substantial.
When the first game came out, Conflict Desert Storm came out too and I was really into it, at least for the first two games. Maybe thats why I never got into them.
Now I'm hoping this will be the next HD remake. To be honest I think the fanbase would go nuts over it if all the online features were intact.
