PS3, 360 offer "much the same" opportunities, says Sega Rally dev

Sega Racing Studio's Guy Wilday talks Sega Rally, next-gen consoles and a changing market.

"Yeah. For me it's always been pretty much the same. Sony always create very technically innovative hardware and always have. PlayStation 3 is no different in that respect. The flipside of very innovative hardware is that it takes you a while to get up to speed with it. The learning curve is steeper in that you have to get into it and understand exactly what the benefits are, and understand exactly how to do certain things to get the most out of the platform.

With Xbox 360 obviously development is simpler. The development tools and support you have are obviously excellent. So that really is the trade-off. We're very happy - the game looks identical on both platforms; the feature-set is exactly the same. We've sat them side by side and you're really hard-pushed to tell the difference. I think that's a testament to where you are with both platforms. The learning curve with PlayStation 3 is steeper, but once you're there the opportunities are very exciting."

[PSTripleOG]

All versions will be the same? i hope so.

(edit) I'm not trying to be a fanboy, i'm just sick of bad ports. Most ps3 owners are......

[CrazzyMan]

Just look at these screens - http://xboxyde.com/news_448...
http://images.xboxyde.com/g... - x360 mirror without anti-aliasing.
http://images.xboxyde.com/g... - ps3 mirror with anti-aliasing.
and most like, reflections on ps3 are better.
but it`s ok, because ps3 is a leading platform.

"It's ironic, in a way, because it was likely Wilday's success working on Codemasters' Colin McRae Rally series that led to his founding the Solihull-based SEGA Racing Studio in the first place, and yet he's just told us that the key to rally driving is changes to conditions that nothing he worked on there - prior to **PlayStation 3**, Xbox 360 and modern PC hardware - could hope to emulate. The technology simply wasn't around."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Xi]

the AA is the same, look at the spoilers in the ps3 pic, compare them the 360 is better(because the spoiler is flat).

[predator]

sounds like it

[ichimaru]

yep thats what iheard

[Observer]

so, having superior hardware with more difficult devkits is the same of having inferior hardware with devkits that allow the gamemakers to maximize the machine's performance ? It's the exact friggin' opposite.

[XxZxX]

well, I absolutely agreed with you.

[closedxxx]

We already know that multiplatform titles will comparable on the PS3 and XBOX360.

The PS3 is limited by its GPU, but the Cell can pick up some of the tasks by splitting among the SPEs. Things like better cloth physics, and object physics can be expected from the PS3 on exclusive titles, but don't expect much difference when the game is on both platforms.

I don't really consider this a bad thing since I didn't buy a PS3 for those titles. I bought it for Blu Ray movies and PS3 exclusives.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are thinking the same way, and that is hurting SONY financially because they have a lower attach rate than the Xbox360

[Diselage]

Agreed, I really don't know why PS3 didn't bump up the ram but another 256, it wouldn't of taken very much.

[weekapaugh]

The learning curve with PlayStation 3 is steeper, but once you're there the opportunities are very exciting.

With Xbox 360 obviously development is simpler. The development tools and support you have are obviously excellent. So that really is the trade-off.

hmmmmmmm....

[codeazrael]

You bought a game system for a blu ray player when you couldve got a better one as a stand alone, just in case you didnt know, the blu ray in the ps3 is the most inferior blu ray for cost reasons.

[kornbeaner]

You are very mistaken sir. For the price the PS3 is reviewed as one of the best Blu-Ray players even against stand alone players.

[The KEN KUTARAGI]

It's not a hard concept to grasp.
I bought a PS3 for the SONY exclusives (which seem to be dwindling) and it's nice to also have a Blu Ray player as part of the deal.
Anyone who has been following the PS3 reviews regarding its Blu Ray playback know that it scored very favorably.
HD movies are not my priority, gaming is. But, as more and more multi platform titles appeard to be better on the Xbox360 (sorry, but it's a fact) I tend to pickup the Xbox360 version.
I'm not going to sell my self short just to support SONY. I want to play games on the platform that they play the best on.

[aaquib2]

8 OF THE MOST POWERFUL PROCESSORS IN THE WORLD(CELL) VS. 3 $50 COMPUTER PROCESSORS? 50GB MAXIMUM STORAGE VS. 8GB OF GARBAGE???? GET OFF THE CRACK MAN!

JUST CAUSE YOUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS LAZY AS FUDGE DOESNT MEAN U BLAME THE CONSOLE NIKKA! USE DONT ABUSE HOMIE. IF U AINT MAKING GOOD GAMES THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CELL AND BLURAY, THEN MOTHAFUDGING GO PUBLISH EXCLUSIVELY FOR WII. YOUR FULLAUTO2 SHISNIT WAS GARBAGE AND MA FREAKING 90 YEAR OLD GRAMMA COULD DO BETTA!

@FORDGTGUY

DO YO MOTHAFUDGIN RESEARCH NIKKA OFCOURSE IT IS DONT HATE APPRECIATE

DONT HATE APPRECIATE. CAUSE U CANT AFFORD IT URSELF DOESNT MEAN U TRASH TALK HOMIE.

[FordGTGuy]

the Cell in no way is even close to being the most powerful CPU in the world.

[Silver360]

But dude it is one chip. the spe's are not powerful they are there to feed compiled data to the ppe, which by the way is the same as one of the 360's cores. Don't be such a fanboy. Your wishes don't change reality.

[codeazrael]

I didnt hear any Sony fan boasting about the ps2's power vs. the first xbox. So, it's funny that they are all now saying, or rather claiming that since the ps3 is more powerful, that victory is theirs. Even though we still havent even seen proof of one game in development that shows the ps3 outshining a first year title like gears of war, let alone anything that MS has yet to release. But then again, when you are talking to so many people who really don't understand true victory, the keys to success, you realize that you are only talking to fanboys

[aaquib2]

HALO 3....NUFF SAID!

WHEN YOUR GRAPHICS LOOK AS BAD AS PS2 GAMES THAN U KNOW SOMETHINGS WRONG!

DONT HATE APPRECIATE. CAUSE U CANT AFFORD IT URSELF DOESNT MEAN U TRASH TALK HOMIE.

[Marceles]

It's really no different from last gen. Xbox 1 had the better graphics in games and xbox live with broadband and ps2 still destroyed it so much that they stopped developing xbox 1 games. PS2 is the only last gen system hanging with the next gen. So you can talk about graphics all you want, but if a last gen system is selling better than the next gen, people must not care that much about "PS2 graphics". Maybe later, and by that time PS3's graphics will be more amazing than now.

[codeazrael]

nuff said

[dale1]

theres plenty more to come from the ps3 its a shame the xbox is holding it back with devs trying to make the games all devs are plagued with this including the very best
sorry to say its all down to money the studios call the shots so the system suffers lets face it if you get a big difference in the finished
content who will buy it
these companys keep coming out with comments like they are both different in there own ways no sh*t sherlock i could tell you this its written on the side of the box one has got 25GB of disc space for starters that will help your cause when developing your games 60 gb hard drive that would be also helpful
now don,t get me started wants under the hood of the ps3 just the disc space alone would improve textures frame rates etc etc never mind the processing power its called being lazy end of

[codeazrael]

havent we seen anything from the first party??? DAmn, you've been indirectly labeled ignorant with that question.

[THE TERMINATOR]

Why havent we seen anything from the first party???
Dont worry you will and when you do its bye bye 360!!!!!

[PSTripleOG]

LOL

[tehcellownu]

its funny the ps3 is hard to develope but still they can still get the same results as the 360(much more easier to program)....imagine when devlopers learn how to program the ps3 there be lots of games that will surpass all 360 games in terms of graphics and power..

[codeazrael]

"A little less conversation and a little more action" Wise words from the king himself.

[PSTripleOG]

You C0ckless Bastard

[Odion]

if funny that your so pathetic

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Sony fans still can't get passed the "FACT" that the PS3 was more hype than power (and Blu-Ray) They believed "everything" Sony told them and still can't deliver, thats ok because you should have a great looking game in Killzone 2 but then again look how much that cost to cover up Sonys own BS. $600 dollors and now additional cost for online from the devs and you wonder why people are going with a cheaper system thats shown equal or with most ports "better graphics". Not to mention the PS3 has no rumble ads everywhere on the PSN, games you will be waiting on for the next ten years (thats why it's a 10yr console because it's going to take that long to get them) and more expensive dev cost.

[BIadestarX]

I love sitting here and read through all Sony fanboys comments... it's incredible how they flip this into some negative news against the 360.
Here I will help you see the facts which obviously you missed.

This game will be the same in both consoles(PS3 and Xbox 360).

In order to achive the same results developer have to work harder on the PS3 version.

You can play this game and have the same experience if you buy the xbox 360 core for $299 + game istead of $599 + game.

those are the facts... ofcourse is you are a sony fanboy you'll disagree... but convince a gamer to spend $300 more for the same experience.

[Marceles]

It just depends on what you feel like you want or need. It's 2007 so I suppose people would want an HD DVD player. I suppose someone doesn't want an ethernet cord plugged into their system and wants it already built in, but alot of people don't care for that. I guess someone actually wants to download content without paying for an extra hard drive, but some wouldn't care. It's up to the consumer...you can get all the extra power ranger attachments for the 360 or have it all in one box for the PS3

[artman]

SEGA RALLY!

[kevin]

ram is starting to look like it really isnt as meningfull as you say friends, as all games out for the ps3 are all running off the RSX alone, the cell hasnt and will not be used til killzone, cell is the real graphics power for the ps3, not RSX, that is only backup, so get off the meth

[FordGTGuy]

Is the most powerful CPU in the world.

[PSTripleOG]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^

[FordGTGuy]

Saying the Cell is the most powerful CPU is a prick thing to do. Also remember when it comes to creating computer hardware power is half the battle the other is efficiency.

I would love to see a Cell CPU standing toe to toe against intel's 80 core CPU that has been demonstrated already.

[felidae]

the ps3 version should be better. these guys need to learn the ps3s structure a little more. they could ad some more content b/c of bluray storage space etc.

[FordGTGuy]

Xbox 360 games are smoother, have better lighting, and better load times. Stop talking about the Xbox 360 like its a Wii performer. Remember that worst thing you can do in the middle of a fight is get c_cky and you sir are getting c_cky.

[Testo]

"You can play this game and have the same experience if you buy the xbox 360 core for $299 + game"

Tell this to people buying GTA4.

[zonetrooper5]

Guys the Dual Core and Quad Core processors for PC's already beat both the Cell and the Xenon, some of you guys are pretty lame fanboys, I do own a 360 and I do plan on buying a PS3. The fact is, the Cell is not the most powerful CPU, if you say that then you really are not that smart to be honest.

Can't wait to get this game though for my 360.

[dale1]

good things come to those who wait now lets see no sequel to gears from the devs themselves why its maxed out the 360 already nex gen you gotta laugh

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

ford Gt guy and zone trooper, you guys are the funniest two people, because i havent heard any world wide report of anything surpassing Cell, know why? I'll tell you why, because the cell is a supercomputer on a chip, those chips im sure are powerfull, maybe more powerfull than cell, but can they render the graphics for movies on theatre screens for hollywood? No, so no matter what kind of power you believe that the almighty cpu's that your little cpu's have, it dont mean didly til your cores turn into processors, whats the point of even buildin um'