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Open World RPGs: Keep It Simple Stupid

GamingOwl writes:

Please remember that games are supposed to be fun! Keeping of your radiation and detoxifying yourself when it get too high isn't fun. Having malaria and having to pop a pill every now and then isn't fun. Losing a fight not because you lack skill as a player but because your characters lacks the necessary skill points isn't fun either. Killing a bunch of sheep over and over until you finally get those skill points isn't fun. Playing the role of the messenger and running back and forth from one person to another isn't fun in real life, and it's definitely not fun in a videogame. Using Excel to sort through 500 different swords with slightly different stats isn't fun. Not being able to open a door because your nose picking skill isn't high enough isn't fun either.

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exnihilonihilfit5206d ago

Games aren't always purely about fun for the sake of fun. They're about challenges for the sake of fun. What he seems to be proposing is that games all become cakewalks where you run around and shoot stuff with virtually no consequences. Dying isn't fun, but if you didn't have the prospect of dying in a game, then there would be no sense of accomplishment. The real bottom line here though is that if you don't like that style of gameplay, then don't buy that style of game. If radiation levels weren't an aspect of fallout then you'd lose a serious part of the atmosphere. Playing the messenger too often can indeed be boring, but usually it's not like you walk from point a to point b and back again, you have to overcome some obstacles to do it, explore some fascinating new area and there's a pay off for succeeding.

This guy just doesn't like RPGs is what it come down to, and if you don't like them, you really have no business talking about them. They're not made for you. What RPG fan complains about having Dialogue options. If anything the problem isn't too many dialogue options, its too few, and not enough that have serious consequences down the line. Maybe you won't want to get into NPC's good graces, maybe you don't want to know their life stories, but I do, and so do the people who play these games. Variation in dialogue is instrumental in adding to re-playability because it allows for the development of a unique story.

This guy just goes on a rant about what he doesn't care about, well other people do care about those things, and those same people don't care about what you have to say. Go back to playing MW2 and stay away from ME2, plain and simple.

sandwiches5190d ago

I agree with you entirely. It all boils down to him not liking RPGs and trying to change them into what sounds like action or shooter games.

It's like someone saying: "I love hamburgers but they shouldn't have lettuce, bacon, cheese, tomatoes, onions, buns, and the meat should not be ground." Then, you don't like hamburgers, sir; You like steaks. So, go get a steak and stop trying to change how everyone gets their burgers.

VileAndVicious5206d ago

This guy goes on a rant about how overly complicated rpg's have become? Why should an Rpg or ANY GAME for that matter be linear and not give you choice? Perhaps he gets his kicks from a game holding your hand or simplifying things but I (and Im sure many of my fellow gamers do not)

Damnit!!! I want to decide whether or not wear a ring that gives me +5 dexterity or ring that gives me +2 will power!!! I believe the great appeal to games such as Oblivion, Fall out, Demons Souls or Mass Effect are in the ability to offer the player choice.
And why on EARTH would you compare Ratchet and Clank to an RPG? Last I checked it wasnt an RPG but a different genre entirely. Games dont need to be overly complicated by they also shouldn't be dumbed down

And lastly Mass Effect is an excellent game..but EVERY SINGLE one of his complaints can be found in this game. Item and equipment management can be horrendous at times. Dialogue can go on for hours (which isnt a bad thing). And there are a ludicrous amount of planets to explore so whats his beef? And then he still says " Oh Im gonna buy it."???
Gamers these days..

melkyre5205d ago

I think this guy totally miss the point on RPG.
This writer should at least know what he's talking about. RPG stand for role playing game which means you have to play in that character shoes. This means that the skill you should use is within your brain. So don't write something like
"Losing a fight not because you lack skill as a player but because your characters lacks the necessary skill points isn't fun either".
I keep it simple as you wanted ... go play action games not RPG.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies2d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken2d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing692d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker2d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt2d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken2d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Now is the Best Time to Get This Incredible RPG Bundle on Steam

If you are looking for an awesome RPG, look no further. Steam is offering a significant discount on its Fallout Franchise Bundle.

SimpleSlave3d ago

"You can get all Fallout games in a bundle at a significant 20% discount on Steam. Individually, all these games add up to $244.91. With the discount, you can get them all for $195.91. That is $49 less than the original price. Quite a significant discount for such a popular franchise."

😊 😂 🤣 😐 - But why?

Just wait for a sale and get most if not all of it for a fraction of that price.

20% off...lol

Tacoboto3d ago

The games were just on a real sale over the last week or two for the show promotion. Fallout 4 was $10, 3 was $5, NV was cheap as heck too.

So what the heck is this

Inverno3d ago

The original games have been given out for free by Amazon for GOG and Epic, 76 is free now on Amazon if you have prime, Epic has also given out new Vegas for free and 4 has gone down to pretty cheap prices. 194 bucks is a total ripoff when you can get these games individually for less. Don't forget cd keys might sell em for a dollar less at times too. Come on man, us cheapskates won't touch anything near or above 100 lolz

isarai3d ago

Bro that's a ridiculous ripoff are you kidding me? 🤣

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Fallout 3's Reveal Led To Death Threats And Bethesda's First Security Guard

The artist behind Fallout 4’s Deathclaw reveals just how bad things got back when Bethesda took over the series

anast4d ago

People are stupid I get it. No one should feel unsafe,

But I think they need to talk about why they cut so many corners during the development process and why none of their games ever look current. And why they think all of this is okay while they charge full price.

LucasRuinedChildhood4d ago

As much as Bethesda deserve criticism, that's not really relevant to the reveal of Fallout 3 in 2007.

VenomUK4d ago

The default angle Kotaku always go for is to highlight the worst in gaming.

I would’ve focused on the creative.

anast3d ago

The game went downhill at Fallout 3's release. This is when they started to cut corners.

gold_drake4d ago

there is no "but". the hell lol
you dont send death threats, period.

anast3d ago

Usually, you have good comments but this isn't one of them. It just rides the mob. We can do both condemn the actions and not let them use it for other things.

I can say I received a death threat and everyone needs to shut up. People are not honest and will use horrible things to their advantage.

Armaggedon4d ago

Not all games “look” current.

anast3d ago

Their games always look like the gen before it.

Armaggedon3d ago

Yeah, but thats not the result of laziness, incompetence, or a bad engine. Thats what happens with their type of open world games. Its hard for people to find a point of comparison because no one makes games like Bethesda does.

gold_drake3d ago

mh ok thanks, i still think ur wrong in this mate.

anast3d ago

No problem. I'm not here to convince you. I'm only stating an actuality. What your words do if we look at them like events.

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