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God of War III to run on 720p natively with variable frame rate

Sony confirm that the final version of God of War III will run natively at 720p and will sport a variable frame rate.

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lociefer5221d ago

with all the epicness this game have, i dont think any1 will care, just like a certain game runs sub hd and ppl r still playin it , hint: it got space marines ;))))

deadreckoning6665221d ago

My TV doesn't even go up to 1080p, so 720p is perfect.

MAR-TYR-DOM5221d ago

While this will NOT ruin the epic experience i will have with the game, i am kinda bummed out that it is not full 1080p HD kratos that will be appearing on my screen. I hope the audio is uncompressed linear 5.1, if it is i wont care about the 720p.

Uncharted 2 wasn't full HD i dont believe, but it still looked amazing. The only game that has to be full hd for me is GT5 that the only game i really care about the resolution.

gaffyh5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

My TV is 720p native, so not too much of a problem for me. But I remember a lot of people complaining that they WANTED GOW3 to be 720p so that the game could have better textures, so everyone should be happy really. You can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p except at like 50 inches screen or above. Mine is 42 inch, and 720p looks great.

@dchalfont - GT5 will be 1080p (which defeats your "no console argument"), possibly one of the best looking console games ever made. Although that's because there aren't many textures there.

Nihilism5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

ahaha, so much for 1080p native at 60 frames, no console can handle a game with decent graphics at that res, let alone at decent frame rates, bu bu wipeout...

@gaffyh

Check your facts bud, it's not 1080p, it's some queer non standard res that's not even 16:9 or 16:10

evrfighter5221d ago

man thats gonna look like crap on my monitor...

:(

Antan5221d ago

"Uncharted 2 was full HD."

Sadly it wasn`t

saint_john_paul_ii5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

Uncharted 2 wasnt true 1080p. it was 720p. it upsacales to 1080p.

God of War 3 will most likely have the ability upscale to 1080p.

@PrimordialSoupBase

no the game never ran at 1080p in the first place. it ran upscaled 1080p.

CrazzyMan5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

Atleast it`s running in HD and has GREAT graphics. People still enjoy Halo 3, even if it doesn`t run in HD. GoW 3 will be more than enjoyable, it will be EPIC!!!

When i first time saw GoW 3 trailer, well it was good, but wasn`t that OMG. Because back then, they were aiming to 1080p.
Now game looks OMG and that`s what matters most + still in HD.

wages of sin5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

That game that came out a few years ago that millions still play everyday? that game?

People complain about anything nowadays don't they?

OT: It's still a day one grab for me as was Bayonetta and the one I want the most of the three H & S's Dante's (locked at 60fps). Either way it's a win win for gamers; unless of course I'm supposed to believe that Dante's looks "last gen" according to joystiq...even though the guy who wrote that managed the PS3 fanboy site.

http://www.joystiq.com/blog...

Aquarius5221d ago

You forgot about GT5?

bu bu runescape...

Pistolero5221d ago

So much for the 1080p and 60FPS that people were touting...

Lifendz5221d ago

What's the difference if it can upscale to 1080p from 720p but it's not native 1080p? Can the human eye tell the difference?

Just wondering.

Megaton5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

"variable frame rate from 30 to 60 frames per second"

That's what Stig said at E3. Said "if you aim for 60, you'll never drop below 30".

Jamegohanssj55221d ago

Yeah I recall them saying for intense parts of the game it will run at 30FPS, but the smooth parts will run at 60FPS. I think it was supposed to be 1080p or was I just dreaming?

TGSI

chaosatom5221d ago

No bungie in game zone?

good news!

Pandamobile5220d ago

Upscaling does virtually nothing.

You can upscale a DVD to 1080p, but it's still going to look like a DVD.

FamilyGuy5220d ago

I know the game is still beastly from a graphical stand point but it would've been nice to see the first console game that was native 1080p and had fast action and high-level graphics and textures (know what i'm trying to say).

They were aiming for 1080p but I guess this ended up looking better than what they could do at that resolution. I'm sure it looks better this way and it'll default to the (upscaled) 1080p setting like only a few other PS3 games do but the knowledge that a game like GOW3 COULD do it would've been nice. Now the (general) thoughts back to the "probably impossible this gen" because until it happens, that's pretty much the truth.

Saaking5220d ago

That's a bit disappointing, but I don't think it'll affect how great the game will be. Sure, I would have loved if it was 1080p, but I've no doubt it'll still look amazing. UC2 wasn't 1080p either and it's still amazing.

A Cupcake for Gabe5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Uncharted 2 only ran Native 720p. Best looking game on any system.

Native 720p looks better than upscaled 1080p anyway.

But before sh1t hits the fan, let's actually see the final product.

StanSmith5220d ago

*sigh*

I can't believe people are still saying this. You CAN see the difference between 720p and 1080p on any HDTV. Screen size has nothing to do with being able to tell the difference it's all about your viewing distance from the tv. For example if you sit too far away from a 32 inch screen then yes you won't see the difference but get the viewing distance spot on and it's like night and day. I have a 32 inch screen and i can tell the difference between the resolutions with ease. All this 50 inch and above is just about people trying to show off about how big there screen is. There is no truth in it at all.

*on topic*
Not to bothered that its only 720p. Uncharted 2 wasn't full hd and that looks amazing! Does anyone know if the god of war collection will be released in the uk separately from the trilogy edition?

S M N5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

it's great game

1080p not needed to see the epicnes of that game

Somnipotent5220d ago

you must got the special duper edition bro, cause the back of my uncharted 2 box says 720p. the only two games i know that run 1080p ridge racer 7 and wipeout HD

raztad5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

@above

Wipeout HD is full 1080p 60fps.

Indeed is a bit dissapointing they hadnt GoW3 running at 1080p. The next time :). Still GoW3 scale is out of this world, GoW meets Shadow of the Colossus, so I can understand Santa Monica needed to make some compromises, in order to keep the highest possible framerate.

GoW is the main reason I bought a PS2 back in the days, and GoW3 is my most expected game. All the previews have been praising the incredible visuals and unbelievable EPIC scale. I'm up for it.

@dchalfont

Even if you are excited because GoW3 doesnt run at 1080p (=1920x1080) still your above argument was inaccurate. There are games runnning at 1080p on the PS3 and GT5 will run at said resolution 60fps locked.

BTW, why are you so happy? Did GoW3 scared you for a minute?

TotalPS3Fanboy5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

"Has there been a game on either console with 1080p natively?
Honest question."

GT5 Prologue.

@dchalfont: "Check your facts bud, it's not 1080p, it's some queer non standard res that's not even 16:9 or 16:10"

*checks GT5 Prologue. *Counted the horizontal lines: 1080 lines.

That's 1080P right there dude.

@dchalfont: "but but but it's not even 16:9 or 16:10"

What does 1080p has to do with 16:9 or 16:10? 1080p = 1080 horizontal lines. GT5 Progolue = 1080p. Simple as that. Stop confusing aspect ratio with resolution.

And until Halo can run at 720p, people needs to stop complaining about 720p.

bpac1234567895220d ago

I honeslty didn't expect the game to run at 1080p natively considering its epic scale, but hey I can dream can't I.

Nihilism5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

/facepalm

It has everything to do with it because 1080p is 16:9, the res of GT5 is 1080 pixels wide but less than 1920 high, aka queer non standard res, and less than 1080p

GT5 Progolue was 720p with 2xaa, it was NOT 1080p, you fools really need to stop believing that upscaled B.S, it's not the same thing

A Cupcake for Gabe5220d ago

No dude...lol

I meant 720p

Still Uncharted 2 in Native 720p @ 30 frames sent bench marks for visuals.

PSN puzzle arcade game Critter Crunch runs 1080p @ 60 frames. It looks like a Hiyao Miyazaki flick, but it sure very very beautiful.

SilentNegotiator5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Not a single 3D game on this generation of consoles plays in NATIVE 1080p....
EDIT: Except for Wipeout and maybe one or two other exceptions.

Anyway, played the demo and it competes with the best looking of console games and runs in a constant smooth framerate.

.
Digital Foundry's analysis:
"This rendition of God of War III [E3 Demo] is v-synced (so no tearing), and based on our playthrough across the two videos, we have an average of 36.81FPS, a low of 24FPS and a high of 56FPS"

TotalPS3Fanboy5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

"/facepalm"

Dude, I think you should stop hitting your face. Anyway...

"It has everything to do with it because 1080p is 16:9, the res of GT5 is 1080 pixels wide but less than 1920 high, aka queer non standard res, and less than 1080p

GT5 Progolue was 720p with 2xaa, it was NOT 1080p, you fools really need to stop believing that upscaled B.S, it's not the same thing"

Nope. 1080p has nothing to do with 16:9. 1080p is a number telling you how many horizontal line a resolution has. 16:9 is just an aspect ration number of the number of vertical lines compare to the horizontal lines. Again, 1080p = 1080 horizontal lines. The vertical lines can be any arbitrary number and as long as there's 1080 horizontal lines, then it is 1080p. That's the definition of 1080p. And GT5P has 1080 horizontal lines, therefore, GT5P is 1080p.

Now, if you were to say that the aspect ratio of GT5P is not 16:9, then you are correct. But to say that GTP is not 1080p is wrong. GT5P is 1080p, regardless of the aspect ratio, because GT5P renders 1080 horizontal lines natively.

@dchalfont

Again dude, 1080p is 1080 horizontal lines. Get it straight man.

@MARIOFTW

Yes. If a game were stupid enough to come out with a 1x1080 resolution, it would still technically be 1080p. That's the definition. However, GT5P chose to go with the standard 1280x1080 resolution, one of the standard 1080p resolution (beside the 1920 one).

@dchalfont

"notice the capital P used in conjunction with the 1080 ) is an abbreviation for 1920x1080"

Nope. The "P" stands for progressive (not interlace). It does not stand for 1920.

@MARIOFTW

"The 1080 is vertical not horizontal. The 1920 refers to horizontal line"

The 1080 is the number of horizontal lines not vertical lines. Go look it up dude. Seriously.

@MARIOFTW

"The 1080 refers to VERTICAL LINES NOT HORIZONTAL!"

From Wiki: The number 1080 represents 1,080 lines of vertical resolution (1,080 horizontal scan lines).

See there? 1,080 horizontal scan lines. 1,080 horizontal lines! I told you dude.

SilentNegotiator5220d ago

GT5p plays in:
1280x1080 (2xAA)
or
1280x720 (4xAA)

DatNJDom815220d ago

"Oh noes its not 1080p, that means its gonna look like sh!t now. So much for 60 fps....... blah blah blah blah blah"......... I smell so much fear in here that its not even funny........ oh wait yes it is!!! No matter wat u 360 fanatics say or b!tch about, nothing on 360 can match a 720p PS3 game. Its crazy that they get a sense of victory over something as minor as this. Now thats something hilarious to laugh at.

Nihilism5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Do you seriously still not get it, the resolution of 1920x1080 is expressed as 1080p, that resolution IS 16:9, the resolution of GT5 is lower, BUT it still has 1080 pixels wide, which means that it is not 1080p, and that it is not 16:9.

The number of pixels is always an indication of aspect ratio you moron, you do you think the aspect ratio is calculated....it's based on the number of pixels, so the resolution has everything to do with the resolution.

1080p is not just an expression of the width, it is also an expression of the unspoken pixel height of 1920x1080 ( do you know what an abbreviation is ??)

@raztad

You're missing a very important point, I said that any games WITH DECENT GRAPHICS, cannot be run at that res or frames, OMFG PSN games at 1080 yippeeeee!!!, a sidescroller game at 1080p at 60 frames, woooooooooo

True HD GENERATION BABY!!!!!

"
Yes. If a game were stupid enough to come out with a 1x1080 resolution, it would still be 1080p. That's the definition. "

ahaha, i'm saving that quote for life, the true intelligence of a fanboy.

1080 pixels is 1080 pixels, but 1080P ( notice the capital P used in conjunction with the 1080 ) is an abbreviation for 1920x1080...look it up dude.

@DatNJDom81

I don't own a 360...

@totalps3fanboy

"The 1080 is the number of horizontal lines not vertical lines. Go look it up dude. Seriously. "

AHAHAHA you've outdone yourself now, is your tv taller than it is wide??????, it must be the only one of it's kind.

SilentNegotiator5220d ago

Well, you can understand why people are upset when games like Halo 3, Gears of War, and Mass Effect play in native 1080p in 60fps.

/s

StanSmith5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

@Totalps3fanboy

You are wrong. dchalfont is correct. 1080p is 1920x1080. The 1080 is vertical not horizontal. The 1920 refers to horizontal line and is representative of 16:9 aspect ratio. Also GT5P is NOT 1080p. It was 1280x1080 which means dchalfont is spot on again about the screwed up aspect ratio. I mean you are saying that 1x1080 is 1080p?! Seriously go check your facts before talking about things you know nothing about.

*edit*
@totalps3fanboy "Yes. If a game were stupid enough to come out with a 1x1080 resolution, it would still be 1080p. That's the definition."

Its official, you are a moron! 1080p resolution IS 1920x1080! The 1080 refers to VERTICAL LINES NOT HORIZONTAL! GT5P was 1280x1080 therefore wasn't 1080p and wasn't in 16:9. It's not hard to understand just look at your own tv. The width is bigger than the height so the 1080 is vertical and the 1920 is horizontal! The definition of 1080p is a resolution of 1920x1080 that is progressive. Seriously just go google it and educate yourself please!

@totalps3fanboy
"The 1080 is the number of horizontal lines not vertical lines. Go look it up dude. Seriously"

i see where we are getting confused here now. You're refering to 1080 being horizontal scan lines whereas im talking about actual 1080p resolution so we are both right on this point technically

NateCole5220d ago

Blah blah blah blah blah.

In the end GOW3 will take the graphics king crown on console from U2.

------------------------THE END--------------------------- -----------

Noctis Aftermath5220d ago

Wow i never knew that a game being 720p would cause so much hate, what is wrong with it being 720p? it has a solid framerate between 30 and 60fps, great graphics and yet all i've read so far is how it is such a disappointment cause it's not 1080p, it's like not having those 360 pixels make the game instantly sh1t.
Newsflash ALMOST EVERY SINGLE GAME THIS GEN IS 720p OR LOWER!

GoW3 will still have top of the line visuals and with a story to match, who gives a sh1t about it not being 1080p when very few games achieve this on consoles, Lair is 1080p, did that make the game any better? FVCK NO! so get over it being 720p, i was slightly disappointed in the lower resolution but all this crying and moaning is unjustified.

SaberEdge5220d ago

TotalPS3Fanboy is being a bit ridiculous. I doubt if he went and bought what he thought was a 1080p tv only later finds out that it only had 1080 vertical lines of resolution and a horizontal resolution much lower than 1920 that he would be perfectly fine with it. Yeah right.

1080p as most people understand it is 1920x1080. This decides how many individual pixels make up the image. If a game is 1280x1080, like GT5P, then it is clearly not displaying nearly as many pixels as a true 1080p image. To say that the vertical resolution is all that matters is just asinine.

Anyway, I don't know why the first guy to post had to bring up Halo 3. PS3 extremists always bring up the fact that Halo 3 is rendered at a resolution lower than 720p, as if that makes it a bad looking game. What they fail to mention is that MGS4 also runs at less than 720p.

There are a few games on both platforms that run at a true native 1080p, but they are for the most part simpler downloadable games.

There is a cool source over at beyond3d that lists the resolutions of many games for both the PS3 and 360. It is interesting. People should check it out. http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

solar5220d ago

the ps3, it only does everything!! oh wait....

blah i didnt expect GoW3 to be 1080p anyways. im just ready to play it. the demo was pretty good.

Nihilism5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

It's not a big deal, it's just that jaffe had to run his mouth and make $#!+ up. No way was this game ever going to do that, everyone knew it wouldn't it was only a matter of time, it's just funny seeing yet another douch fall back on his word, especially one such as jaffe who's ego makes him believe he is entitled to a profit from used game sales...of someone elses game.

Jaffe = the gaming industries biggest liar and attention whore

SaberEdge5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

@ Noctis Aftermath

360 pixels? Try 1,152,000. That is the real difference in the number of pixels between 720p and 1080p. 1080p has more than twice the number of pixels. [1920 x 1080 = 2073600] [1280 x 720 = 921600]

DaTruth5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Because I never actually believed this game was gonna run at 1080p! I hoped it would be true, but I figured it was unlikely!

If Sony made any game 1080p, they would be essentially destroying any chance of a 3D update in the future. Sony stated that they were shooting for all their games to be convertible to 3D.

My only concern was that PS3 fanboys were probably in the 360 section running their mouth about 1080p this and 60fps that and that now 360 owners will come back and say "You said teh GOW3 was teh 1080p" and paint us all with the same brush! But those same dudes are here, now, in a PS3 only thread and they will hypocritically bash PS3 fanboys for the same thing!

Edit@below: Yes, but racing games have always been less graphically intense than combat action games with the chaos onscreen being the most demanding thing. Every race 1080p game was actually shown in 3D. I think if there were explosions and parts flying around the screen like Motostorm, 1080p 3D would also be impossible!

@Likdamaster: Funny how Dante's Inferno looks like a PS2 game. Funny how... actually, Dante's Inferno is just funny all around!

StanSmith5220d ago

@da truth "If Sony made any game 1080p, they would be essentially destroying any chance of a 3D update in the future."

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't ridge racer used a while back to show off 3d? Ridge Racer was 1080p native.

I think Sony made this 720p because of the sheer chaos that will be on screen while playing GOW3 and that with a 1080p resolution would probably cause a huge framerate drop.

likedamaster5220d ago

Funny how Gow3 struggles to keep 40fps average @720p while Dante's Inferno does a solid 60fps @ the same resolution on the same platform.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.eurogamer.net/vi...

HINDERIZATION5220d ago

this game is going to be badass. Quality always wins in terms of story and gameplay

Ausbo5220d ago

ever want to hear a game bashed again because it ran at 720p/30fps and not 1080p/60fps.

Nihilism5220d ago

Other 720p/30 frame games don't get bashed because their devs aren't stupid enough to claim that they will run at 1080p and 60 frames, but our good friends mr jaffe....is stupid enough to.

False marketing hype that doesn't deliver = worthy of a bashing.

DevastationEve5220d ago

GT5p =/= TRUE 1080p HD. True 1080p HD = 1920x1080. If it's not the same number then it's not the same resolution.

Halo 3 isn't 1152x640. It's 2 frames with 1 pass of HDR or LDR per 1152x640 frame. It's subHD but with an advanced lighting engine (also why they went without AA).

JasonPC360PS3Wii5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

What happened to 1080p? the 360 has more HD games than the PS3. It don't matter if its 720p and 30fps, it's a good game... right guys (wink) Should be a good game with good scores so who cares f it's not "true HD" like 99.9% of all games... oh wait ;)

Spin away

Qdog5220d ago

That was a very thorough description of scaling, post, and anti-aliasing techniques in games. I also found it interesting that the PS3 has 27 (twenty-seven)games that run in native(not upscaled) 1920*1080 progressive resolution, versus 4 on the Xbox 360. I know there are more games than what was listed, but that's pretty thorough. How often do they update that page?

BattleAxe5220d ago

I think you should concentrate on upgrading your motherboard, CPU and GPU on your PC so you can play Metro 2033, STALKER: CoP, and the Sims 3 on medium settings, instead of worrying about an epic game that you'll never play anyway.

kewlkat0075220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

I swear I've seen many arguing in other threads over 1080p fanboy banter.

Why are we still surprised about most games these days. 720p will be the sweetspot this gen and quite frankly, I don't care much. Hey MS was right as far as "performance balance".

I've played some good looking games and some decent looking ones and have enjoyed them. Graphics does not equal to quality, period.

Wasn't "LAIR" 1080p?

Nihilism5220d ago

Na dude, i've had a PC that can max any game for years, I think my gtx280 will serve me just fine, but I am getting a gtx380 when they come out in march, thanks for showing an interest, quality costs money, but upgrading certainly isn't necessary, it's optional, too bad both the console's were obsolete on release day...

Socrates5220d ago

@Qdog

That was interesting, wasn't it. Although most of the 1080p games are downloadable titles.

It was also interesting to see that out of 174 retail games in the 360 list 39 were sub-HD, whereas out of 172 retail games listed for the PS3 56 were sub-HD.

135 of the 360 games were listed as 720p or higher, while 116 of the PS3 games were 720p or higher.

What this means is that the PS3 has a higher percentage of full retail games that run at sub-HD resolution.

pimpmaster5220d ago

lol tards, there is no such thing as "true HD" there only is HD and its any res above 480i. so you guys just stfu saying games arent true hd and all your nonsence

ReservoirDog3165220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

How sad it must be to only play games based on resolution and graphics. If you only did that, you'd miss out on most of the best games ever released.

Like Ico, GTA SA, Jak and Daxter, MGS, Legend of Zelda OoT...

The list goes on and on. If a game's good, a game's good. And we all know this game's gonna be great (even though I suck at hack and slash games, it's obvious this is just gonna be ridiculously good).

Qdog5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

------WARNING---INDIVIDUAL OPINION BELOW---READ AT YOUR OWN RISK-----

What is even more interesting to me, is that the games were even able to run at an acceptable resolution and framerate, when taking into account the substantial differences in the core and auxiliary architecture. It speaks volumes when the platform that is easier to integrate, compile, and port almost directly from pc has more games akin in function to those of the primary development platform. Weird, huh? Who would have thought? There is no need for semantics here, even in the most rudimentary of forms. I take no offense to your post, and I appreciate your input. I find it ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, with all this taken into account, how far ahead the games have moved on PS3, coming from sub-HD ports to HD exclusives with soul, a creative standard among the industry, vibrance, cohesion, and subtle uniqueness not found on other platforms that share "exclusives" with another platform. I've had them all, and I weigh the merits of each. While it is a little discouraging that GOWIII, wont run in native 1080p, I have no doubts that this will not detract from the fidelity and grandiosity that the game will offer. In fact it excites me, to the point of pondering what is ahead for the consoles, if this can be achieved now. As engines become more and more optimized for the target platform(s) I think I see a certain platform standing head and shoulders above it's direct competitors when it comes to capabilities, both in the hardware, and developer quality. I primarily game on PC(thats where my roots began) but also on PS3, Wii, Gamecube, and iPhone 3GS. I went through a few too many Xbox 360s, just to play Xbox 1 games, especially when most of my favorites werent even supported. So i got smart and moved on. I have no hate for Microsoft, as they are a corporation like any other.

@ exnihilonihilfit below....

I agree completely, and while enlightening to some, I found your post refreshing. Spot on, from one enthusiast to another.

pixelsword5220d ago

Uncharted 2 is 720p native, Eurogamer even says so:

http://www.eurogamer.net/vi...

Where is this coming from that it wasn't?

exnihilonihilfit5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

First of all I want to point out that this dispute is largely semantic, which renders it trivial... but I just happen to love trivial disputes (and trivial pursuits for that matter).

1080 p does solely refer to the number of horizontal lines, that is, the number of lines perpendicular to the Y axis, and parallel to the X axis. For example:

1 _
2 _ Horizontal lines are parallel to the horizon, FYI ;)
3 _

as opposed to:

| | |
1 2 3

Ratios are given in the form X:Y

So

16 by 9 would be shaped as follows

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

So 1080p does in fact mean there are 1,080 horizontal lines. The use of the terms vertical and horizontal resolution is confusing. When one says that something has 1,080 vertical lines of resolution one is actually referring to the number of horizontal lines (the use of the word vertical refers to how they are counted, not how the lines are oriented, it's a very dumb nomenclature.)

PS3 Fanboy is correct on that point.

Technically, the term 1080p only means that there are 1,080 horizontal scan lines.

It is always assumed that there are at least as many vertical scan lines as there are horizontal scan lines when talking about video images. In other words, an aspect ration is never less than 1:1. So 1x1080 is never considered 1080p.

There are only a few standard aspect ratios. In theatres, they are: 1.85:1 and 2.4:1. On standard definition TV's there is only one, 4:3. On HDTVs (and this is important) there is only one, 16:9. And still camera's have all kinds of crazy ratios that are still considered high def (e.g. Portraits have a lower ratio, usually something like 9:16). So technically, PS3 fan boy is correct, 1080p does in fact refer to any standard resolution which incorporates 1,080 horizontal scan lines, but not all resolutions are standard as they are not all at a standard aspect ratio. Standard definition televisions cannot be in 1080p as they only ever have up to 525 horizontal lines of resolution plus a million other hinderances that make them not HD. In other words only film theatres and HDTVs can display something at 1080p, and all TV's of this resolution are shaped at an aspect ration of 16:9, movie theaters either have a very close (but slightly higher) aspect ratio (1.85x1) or one that is much higher (2.4x1).

As video game consoles are made to be played on a television, with respect to video games, the use of the term 1080p in reference to HD gaming can then only refer to one thing: 1920x1080. Technically it could refer to a screen using a higher resolution though, in which case it would most likely be 1998x1080 or 2592 x 1080. So, mister halfont is correct that for a videogame ever to be rendered in true 1080p HD, it must at least be at a resolution of 1920x1080, though it could very well be higher if you have an HD projector set up in your private theater. In other words, any game that is not rendered in a resolution at or above 1920x1080 is not really at 1080p. To say otherwise cheapens the meaning of 1080p entirely.

In otherwords, the term can be variable, but not in the way that our dear friend PS3fanboy was using it because it cannot be less than 1920x1080.

There is no difference between the P being upper or lower case.

thor5220d ago

By the fact that so many of you can't agree what resolutions things run in, or think that things are 1080p when they're not, it shows me what a case of "the emperor's new clothes" the whole business is.

"Look at the emperor's wonderful new suit made of 1080p resolution! You would be an idiot not to see its far superior image quality!"
"Wow... I can see it it's so beautiful!"
Little kid - "It looks pretty much the same as 720p to me! The emperor's new suit is the same as his old one!"

"Full HD" is 1920x1080. I think it's far too confusing to put 1080p; we don't have interlaced scanning any more so it's misleading. It's better to put the full resolution. In this way, GT5:P was NOT Full HD. It was like 1200x1080 or something. The reason devs can get away with lower resolutions and upscaling is because people don't notice.

vhero5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

720p Sub HD?? are you crazy?? Try halo 3 and its 540p That's Sub HD. 720p is HD. Anything less is Sub HD if you really have to label it.

Megaton5220d ago

Man... this is amazing. Could create a case study on the degree of retardation at this site. Fighting over resolutions like religion. Y'all gathering at the Church of HDouchebaggery afterwards?

The one thing I noticed and really lol'd at was 1.49. Dchalfont calling David Jaffe stupid for statements he never made about a game he's not working on.

Bravo, N4G. Bravo.

Blu Ray35220d ago

And I support Sony way over MS.... FACT.
But the truth goes and from what I've read here...........
this N4G is totally controlled by Sony.

Sony made us all believe games would run at 1080p and 120 FPS!
The PS3 had this kind of power(FALSE)and this gen gen would start when they said it would.
This is complete BS!

Now you have these 8-10 bubbled Sony guys in here smoking out everybody of their bubbles(360 and Wii fans)with ease,and I find it hard to believe that they can't be Sony employed.

What a filthy and weak tactic on your peoples' part.

I was p1ssed when my 360 rroded that one time........but MS came through with a 3year warranty and redeemed themselves.
But MS never boasted the UTTER CRAP that this Sony has about the PS3i.e.
1080p,120fps games.

Face it,their developers are struggling to reach 720p at 60fps.

Software companies(unless Sony pay rolled)don't have the tools or the funding to develop games on the PS3 to their fullest potential(if it even consistently can),
and that is the utter truth this gen.
And this is why multiplats most the time run better on the 360(proven)and that p1sses me off.

GOW3 SHOULD HAVE BEEN 1080p at 120 FPS ....PERIOD.

This is their own BIG funded exclusive, and it fails to meet what was promised.
I've been an avid owner of every Sony console throughout the previous two generations,and bought countless games for these 2 systems.

But I'm a little p1ssed at Sony right now!

I was buffaloed into their 3rd gen hardware.......and I don't like being lied to.
And this site is one big Sony run fanboy crock.
I lost a bubble recently and then the truth came to me about this stupid site.......Sony funded without a question.
Cutthroat internet tactic there Sony!
People know the truth about this site.
If you have a brain you'll hear what I'm saying.

The real question is,what would their success rate have been if they hadn't lied,
and told the truth about BluRay being the major factor for them this gen?
Lot of Sonyfans might of jumped ship like many already had.
What about the paycheck to that final movie company to choose Blu Ray over HD DVD......hmmmmm?

I'm glad Blu Ray won actually because I thought it was the better format and since I have gathered quite the collection of movies for it also.

But it was won on dirty tactics........kind of like what Sony did
with the PS2 on the Dreamcast(a lousy Sega system in my opinion),
but nether the less.....they did.

And all the Sony fans and employees in here acting like they're so perfect and do no wrong.

You guys are bad people.
How do you sleep at night?
Well.......bye.

Condemnedman5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

You are a class A D'ck head

The Happy Baby5220d ago

I just want people to know there is no such thing as "true HD" and that HD starts at 720, not 1080(in the US anyways).

And just so ya'll know, we have resolutions far beyond 1080p that can be attained, with some computer monitors already achieving these resolutions at an affordable price.

Read a tech blog every once and a while, jeez. And stop crying over 720p. Its not going to make it any LESS fun if your a fan of the series, right? Besides, I think the only thing you MIGHT need to worry about is the "variable" framerate.

Qui-Gon Jim5220d ago

I'm sorry, but you ARE wrong on the 1920 x 1080 thing. 1080 is the number of lines HIGH and the 1920 is the number of lines ACROSS. Notice how HDTV's are wider than they are high. As for what GT5P is running at, I don't know, but you just have a fundamental mistake in your argument. If GT5P really is running at 1280 x 1080, then you're right that that is not "true" 1080p, though.

It seems that people are confusing horizontal and vertical. horizontal lines go sideways and vertical lines go up and down. I think people get confused because if you count VERTICALLY you are counting the HORIZONTAL lines, e.g. your computer keyboard has six horizontal lines of keys which you count by moving vertically.

Was it Jaffe that said it was going to be 1080p60? He's actually got nothing to do with the series anymore, so it would be unfortunate if it was his word people were going by.

olLANDSHARKlo5220d ago

This is about Sony not doing their job correctly and you somehow seem to twist this to MS, fanboy much. This kind of mentality from Sony fanboys make me want to sell my ps3, I mean is it nothing but kids?

Christopher5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Thank heaven this is confirmed at 720p. People have been spouting off 1080p textures just because random game 'journalists' (that word used extremely lightly) have said the game looks unbelievable.

I'll believe the hype behind GoW3 and its technical advancements, or lack thereof, when we see some fresh gameplay videos that aren't just the one-year old demo.

Also, Sony never said GoW3 would run at 1080p/60, that was all crap created once again by the public. Of course, once the concept gets spread, people cite it as fact without realizing that some idiot on the Web created that measurements some two months ago by pulling nothing out of his arse and sharing it with the world.

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raztad5220d ago

@likdmaster

I think you missed this thread out:

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
Some impressions in there about DI vs GoW3.

@dchalfont

Wipeout HD is not a side scroller neither is GT5 (not talking about Prologue).

@everybody

That said I find a bit amusing so much hate because GoW3 is not running at 1080p, still every critic out there is praising the game visuals to the heavens. Many people hating GoW3 in this thread didnt show up in GoW3 previews that popped up yesterday.

edgeofblade5220d ago

Oh, I really don't care. Really. I didn't even care when Halo 3 ran at 640p. As long as it's a progressive scan and the AA looks half decent, I'm happy. I'd rather get clean framerates than 1080p...

This one is a no brainer.

griff25220d ago

There seems to be some confusion here over aspect ratio and resolution. Aspect ratio, as the name implies, is the ratio of image width to height and is independent of resolution (because you can have non-square pixels).

Any resolution proceeded by 'p' is progressive and by 'i' interlaced; progressive means the whole frame is refreshed in one go, while interlaced means that the frame is split into two interlacing fields which alternately refresh to make up one frame.

For example, here in the UK BBC HD is broadcast in 1440x1080i whereas Eurosport is broadcast, aiu 1920x1080i, both are 16:9. 1080p is simply 1080 lines refreshed progressively; it is no indication of aspect ratio or horizontal resolution.

Consoldtobots5220d ago

this is where BUSINESS DECISIONS take over, something fanboys apparently fail to comprehend plays a big part for these COMPANIES.
The decision was made to target 720p for this game because it is the happy medium for ALLLLLLLL the HDTVs that are out there. Why spend the time optimizing an engine for 1080p so a percentage of the userbase can brag about it when you can achieve 720p much faster and thus focus on what's important CONTENT AND GAMEPLAY.

You'll see almost all 1080p titles toward the latter half of the PS3s product cycle when 1080p will be ubiquitous.

solidt125220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

That's incredible. Most Games can't even do 720p without upscaling and with all the stuff going on in this game that is insane.

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Antan5221d ago

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

As predicted of course........No way on this planet this was going to be 1080p. If it were me...i`d of locked at 30fps (and whacked a few more bells and whistles on)... The demo fluctuates quite a lot and CAN be distracting. Take a leaf out of UC2`s book.......

Mr Tretton5221d ago

I like seeing fps go up to 60 when it can. Looks nice. If you don't notice a stuttery switch between 30 and 60, then it's fine.

Antan5221d ago

Well, its really gonna depend on how frequent this happens....They could for example lock the rates on a per level basis? Keep the heavy stuff at 30, and the lighter stuff at 60?

FamilyGuy5220d ago

grrr

I hope you at least wish you had been wrong

Cueil5220d ago

fluctuating fps is retarded no matter how you look at it... if you're use to a buttery smooth UC2 and you see something drop half it's frames all the sudden... I don't know... maybe they'll do it some other way, but for an action game to run a 30fps... that's 100ms lag tacked onto the lag from your controller and TV. *shrugs* I'm sure it will be enjoyable to everyone who likes those kind of games

Bodyboarder_VGamer5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

Calm down people, the game has Vsync so even if the game's frame-rate drops to 20 and then goes up to 60 you will not notice a difference because it'll happen fast. As long as there are no slowdowns or screen-tearing your whining's needless.

In fact I am very happy that the devs are going with this approach instead of locking the frame rate to 30 or something like that. Having a fixed frame rate is good when you have bad programmers but this is Sony Santa Monica we're talking about. Haven't you seen how awesome their games look on PS2 hardware running at 480p/16:9? These guys are good.

And about the lag, it all depend. A game can be 60fps and still be very laggy on the controller, even more than a 30 fps game if is not done right. There an article in Eurogamer talking about this issue and they compare various games like Call of Duty, Halo, Uncharted , etc.

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swiftshot935221d ago

Obviously having it run 720p is good. But variable framerate? Why wouldn't they just have it locked at 30 so that way they have greater graphical detail and we wouldnt have to notice the framerate changing.

I mean, as long as they make it un-noticeable, it should be fine.

saint_john_paul_ii5221d ago

because the game will run slower. GOW is all about fast pace action while trying to keep the level of detail at the same time. Im happy with this.

GOW 1 and 2 ran at a varaible rate as well before the game was remastered for the GOW collection.

NateCole5221d ago

Dam. I was hoping GOW3 will hit 1080p. I don't care about FPS as long as it dosen't get any lower than 30 FPS.

I guess PD are still the kings of PS hardware.

Shadow Man5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

Droids were making fun of FFXIII running @ 720p on the Xbox360, because the ps3 version runs at 1080p

I wonder what the have to say about this article.

talltony5221d ago

Uhoh ps3 sucks cause gow 3 will run in 720p and not in 1080p. I guarrantee to all of you right now that ps3 can do more than 360 can at the same Rez. This game will look phenominal and I feel sorry for anyone that will miss out on this game.

ssipmraw5221d ago (Edited 5221d ago )

lol i doubt ffxiii runs at even 720p on the 360 judging from their previous efforts

and i dont really care about pixels, as long as it is visually pretty on the eyes

Lord_Ranos5220d ago

I wonder what 360 game have made 1080p with 60fps? NONE.

PS3 has:
WipeoutHD 1080P with 60fps
Ratchet and Clank a Crack in Time 1080p with 60fps

Pistolero5220d ago

Wipeout HD has a variable resolution...its strange I know but it actually changes resolution depending on how much stuff is going on.

Now...Ratchet & Clank A Crack in Time is not only not 1080p...it isn't even native 720p...it is a subHD 960x704...but 720p is 1280x720. http://forum.beyond3d.com/s... Like other ps3 games it might be able to be upscaled to 1080p...but that is just upscaling, not native resolution.

Also...in case you did not know...the 360 has a built in hardware scaler that allows every 360 game to be upscaled to 1080p.

ssipmraw5220d ago

that doesnt mean the game will run so good.
take ninja gaiden II, for 360, set the game to 1080p and you get a lagfest

ssipmraw5220d ago

lol we all know that the only sex you have is with your mother

you dont need to put out your hatred upon myself and other for the mistakes youve made in life

SaberEdge5220d ago

@ Shadow Man

You are mistaken. Both versions of Final Fantasy XIII run at 720p.

likedamaster5220d ago (Edited 5220d ago )

LOL...

Seems like Sony devs need to tone down their boasting.

dustgavin5220d ago

You mean like Microsoft and their inflated 'imaginary' sales figures?

hiyaku5220d ago

Look at the little 360 leg humpers trying to downplay the game just because it isn't at 1080. Oh noooes. :(

4point7BillionLoss5220d ago

droids you look so stupid now ....

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JL2930179d ago

Both requels over 2 and 3? Clowns. Those are two of the most boring games I've ever played.

Snookies12179d ago

GoW 3 was amazing, but I personally hated just one thing. (This is on me alone, because I was dumb, lol.) I hated that you couldn't skip cutscenes on repeat playthroughs. I had to go back through the game a third time because I missed one trophy accidentally on my way to the platinum... The cutscenes were great the first go round, even the second... But the third was pretty agonizing.

Haven't played Ragnarok, but I still think GoW 4 is a wonderful game in its own right. Not sure how I would stack them up against each other honestly.

Monstieur179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

I don't consider the reboot part of the original series. The original series were high-skill games with combos and rewards for mixing things up.

solideagle179d ago

lol square, square and triangle is the only combo you needed. I have played all of them on the hardest difficulties...

Golfcoachh179d ago

Maybe I’m just old school but I just couldn’t get into the last two. Maybe it’s the slower action and more story telling but the original trilogy was by far my favorite.

Crows90179d ago

It's not that youre old school. They're different genres

JL2930178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

Me either, at all. It's just yap yap yap. They try to be a RPG's instead of being action games like they used to be.

Fluke_Skywalker179d ago

I'd put the two psp games over 3 in terms of story any day. But not over 2.

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TheEnigma313179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

My favorite was part 2 and I think Ragnarok is better that 2018.

Shane Kim179d ago

The newer games are better imo.

ravens52179d ago

There is no worst. Except for Ascension, only cause I didn't play it lol. They are all masterpieces. 1,2,3, 2018 and Ragnarok. 1 of, if not the greatest video game franchise...besides MetalGear.

Snookies12179d ago

Oh wow, I actually forgot that Ascension even existed... I never played it either.

Crows90179d ago

I like ascension. It was different and some interesting combat additions.

darthv72179d ago

If you didnt play it, how could you call it the worst? Its not as bad as the media portrayed it. Honestly the worst are those flash games. they arent even considered true GoW games but in name only. At least Ascension is a real GoW game.

ravens52179d ago

Not saying it's a terrible game. Just mean it's at the bottom of my list. I played a little bit of it. Jus to me, compared to the other main games, it's last.

Fluke_Skywalker179d ago

Ascension is the only GOW game I never finished. Hated it.

Inverno179d ago

Can't agree, older games do so much more than the last two. More weapons, magic abilities, enemies are more varied, level design is also more aesthetically pleasing, and agree with those who say that they shouldn't have removed jumping. Was a time I'd agree, but those old games are so so much better, that they really should've looked into bringing into the reboot/sequels.

Crows90179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

If a game is good then a game is good. Doesn't matter what came before or what comes after.

Inverno179d ago

Of course it matters. If not for what what came before there wouldn't be an after. And if something is great before then you strive to make it just as good if not better, after. I personally don't think there's a fair way to judge the new with the old because the newer games are still essentially a reboot, and went a way different direction. But I still believe the old games did it better. I'm probably bias though since I've been going back to old games and have been finding that they lack all the annoying aspects that devs have shoehorned into new games to fluff out game time.

Crows90178d ago

@Inverno

Im not talking about the passage of time here. Im talking about individual pieces of software. If a game is good then it is good. Thats not a controversial statement. You can compare good with good...sure. But you still end up with good. Now if there is a bad game in the mix and you compare you do end up with some differentials between them...makes sense to compare and see where it went wrong.

But theyre different genres and styles which were individually executed very well.

And no. The new games are not a reboot. Theyre a new direction but simply a continuation.
Tomb raider was a reboot.

Inverno178d ago

The new games are definitely a reboot, and a continuation, it can be both which it is. And a good game might be good, but my point is that if there are things done better before it then there's plenty of room for critiquing and trying to make whatever comes after better rather than just good.

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purple101341d ago

Haha I still remember my brother playing the opening scene on ps3!!!

Yeh he had to put the controller down his heart was beating too fast trying to get past first 10 minutes. He said "it's too much". Best thing I've ever seen in gaming. Haha

robtion340d ago

A great game from an era before things went politically correct and gaming turned serious/'mature'.

It certainly wasn't concerned about upsetting or offending anyone and was more fun because of it.

The boss battles and set pieces still top most games released today.

SullysCigar341d ago

This game was absurdly good for it's time. The very definition of 'epic'.

robtion340d ago

Yes. The graphics were just ridiculous compared to most other games on the market at the time.

masterfox341d ago

I wished Ascension had the same treatment.

Heavenly King340d ago

Ascension SP had some things better than GOW3, and also some things worst than GOW3. But in general it was a really good game, for me it also deserves a REMASTER. The problem per se with the game is that most people were satisfied on how GOWIII ended, so Kratos got his revenge, so in order to rise the interest in the game how have to make it MORE EPIC is that the game did not had the epicness of fighting huge bosses (I guess due to technical difficulties,the game had actually a lot more colors (because the world is not dying like in GOWIII) so it is graphically more demanding that is my guess), but it compensated with having in general a more complex combat system, and an amazing soundtrack. but in general the game needed to be more epic than GOWIII somehow, and that did not happened, after GOWIII people had expectations through the roof. They should have waited and release it for PS4 so the vision of the game is not compromised.

My list of good and bad compared to GOWIII

GOOD: THE COMBAT
The combat was more elaborated, which allows you to be more immersed in the fights. Also every enemy was more resistant, even those that you could usually kill in 2-3 attacks in previous games. THE LAST BOSS is so damn epic!!!, but there is only one moment like this in the whole game.

GOOD: LESS QTEs
I love the fact that "cicle" in the new enemies (killing animations) are not QTEs, in Ascension they are mini-games on their own, depending on the enemy, making it more engaging. You had to dodge and hit when the window was open in order to eventually do the killing blow.

GOOD: The Soundtrack
it has the orginal trilogy musics, but with a new perspective since the game had a new composer. The ST was amazing also the new music written specifically for this game were badass

GOOD: The puzzles actually require you to think.

BAD: There are bad camera angles during the game, like zooming way too out of vista, and then swarming you with "light units" that like I said before had better AI and did not die of 2 attacks. those parts a few, but are a mess.

BAD: EMPTY ARENAS
Other thing that really annoyed me is that when you fight a sub-boss/heavy unit in a big arena; that ARENA WAS EMPTY, it was just you and against the medusa, or against the manticore. They should have zoom in into the action to avoid noticing the void scenario. I guess emptiness was because of the game having a lot more colors (because the world is not dying like in GOWIII) so it is graphically more demanding. My guess is that it was not possible technically, since in most of those cases you had huge vistas or intricate scenarios that needed to be rendered. The fact that the cerberus is smaller in this game disappointed me.

BAD: Only one BADASS EPIC moment, the others moments of the game were great but, they needed to set the bar even higher than GOWIII and they failed miserably.

BAD: The graphics did not improved much. I was GOWIII with more colors, and that's it.

So 4 good things against 4 bad ones. The problem is those 2 last BAD aspects are actually why the game was received so poorly. Everyone expects the next game to have a really BIG improvement in all aspects in contrast to the previous one, and that was not the case in ascension. And also GOW is the definition of EPIC, and that was not there neither. The jump on every aspect from GOWI to GOWII was huge being on the same console, and the jump from GOWII to GOWIII was humongous (obviously because a more powerful console). While the jump from GOWIII to Ascension is too little, and people expected more.

On it's own is a good game; but is not sufficient when GOWIII was released before it.

CrimsonWing69340d ago

I know this is unpopular opinion, but I prefer these over the new ones. I’m not saying the new ones are bad or anything, but they sort of get boring to me, whereas the older games were like non-stop roller coaster rides.

ChiefofLoliPolice340d ago

I love the new ones but I understand what you mean. The older ones had more action and was more arcady like.

MIDGETonSTILTS17340d ago

Ragnarok was not BIG at all… GoW1 had larger set pieces, and it was on ps2.

GoW 2018 had big moments in its own way…. Ragnarok abandoned these aspects though

robtion340d ago

I agree. It was just less serious and more fun.

victorMaje340d ago

One of my all time favourites.

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