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Forza gets huge user base boost from Christmas

Turn 10 says that Forza Motorsport 3 saw a huge jump in users during Christmas.

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Wrathman5266d ago

not so flopza anymore.

i bought it yesterday.and for 1,im very impressed with it.and i cant help think that when polyphony got a look at it at last years e3,they went back to gt5 and improved things.which contributed to the extended delay.

Bungie5266d ago

nice to see more people jumping in

Definitive indeed

Major Kanimo5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

nothing but quailty from turn 10

Edit: @thereapersson, i cant say that turn 10 is a good dev?..does my comment hurt your feelings

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DelbertGrady5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

It gotten great review scores to boot, and apparently has an active user base. Or does that not count either?

What criterias do you look at for quality in a game?

thereapersson5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Yep, you're absolutely correct! Thanks to the prowess of Xbox LIVE's connection strengths, there is virtually no lag in online races. The netcode in this game is rock-solid! ;-)

green5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

The game is a massive success over here in the UK and has remained in the top 10 charts for the past two months while some bigger titles have dropped off the top 20 entirely.

As for the game its self, its really great.The best thing about the game has to be the physics engine which is simply top notch.Another node has to go to the storefront, the user generated content you see over there from tunning setups,photos to decals made by the Forza 3 community is really breathtaking.Never have i played a racing game that is soo driven by the community. Kudos to Turn 10.

mikeslemonade5266d ago

You guys act like it's new that xbox 360 games sell good.

sakura20095266d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

a lot of people did rent the game during the holiday season

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Sez 5266d ago

have you been in a ps3 game thread. sonyfanboys always bring up MS or it's games. go look up GT5 time trail glitch. look how many time forza video's are posted or mentioned in that thread. matter of fact go to any thread about a ps3 game. see how many times MS or one of their games be mentioned in that thread.

The Maxx5266d ago

"again, sales =/= quality.

when will you guys learn?"

How about sales + Great reviews? Does that make a quality game?
The question is when will YOU ever learn.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... (doesn't include Holiday sales yet)

http://www.metacritic.com/g... based on 87 reviews.

thereapersson5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Yep, to experience true sim action, you need to utilize a driving wheel. Using a controller is nowhere near the intended way that the developers want you to experience their game.

I own a Logitech G25, BTW. Those Amazon gift cards really help bring down the cost...

I suppose you only made those comments because you don't own a racing wheel yourself?

@ Vega75

Your comment history means you have no possible excuse to complain about any trolling or Sony fanboy-related behavior. You are one of the worst 360 fanboys on this site, eager to proclaim "TEH SDF!!!" at any possible moment. Hypocrisy is your strongest attribute.

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boodybandit5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Sure you can say what ever you want. That is the beauty of the internet and freedom of speech. However it does make you a tad ignorant to say that when you barely touched Forza 2 and you have never played Forza 3.

What is it with people saying butt hurt or did I hurt your feelings with opinions on gaming? Are you people serious? Maybe it is you yourselves that take other peoples opinions far too seriously and are lashing out with ignorant remarks like the one above as a source of retaliation for your own butt hurt feelings?

On topic:
I think Forza 3 is a very nice racer. It offers a lot of value for the price tag and it does a lot of things right but honestly, I'm just nit picking here, there are a lot of little things I wish they did differently. Hopefully Forza 4 will take care of those things.

Right now I am working on solid gold achievement pecking at the event list one race at a time. This is one long game and I got my new wheel (Fanatec 911 S) dialed in perfectly to my liking.

I love Christmas because it always adds new blood to games to play against. MW2 was like noobfest on the 25th. It was so easy to pad stats by tearing up the new players. I almost felt a little dirty / guilty doing so.

I haven't played Forza 3 online much recently (still piecing together my racing pod) so I didn't get a chance to play against the new blood, yet. :) By the time I get my pod set those guys wont be new blood any more :( but I'm working on finishing it right now.

Edit: Anyone that is a big fan of Forza 3 owe it to yourself to purchase a Fanatec 911 S. It is truly an amazing wheel and it adds a whole new dimension to the game that you will never get with a game controller.

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baum5265d ago

Sorry, sales don't dictate quality, and neither do reviews. It's obvious that reviewers get "royalties" from scores when generic games like halo, modern warfare and gears get so many free passes. Quality is subjective

One thing is certain, games on xbox sell because a significant part of its fanbase pays too much attention to review scores and to sales. It's funny because they don't realize that they are producing a self-fullfilling prophecy,I.e. It's good if it sells, therefore they are making it good (in their little minds)

DARK WITNESS5265d ago

^^ lol.... keep telling yourself that...

ABizzel15265d ago

Forza is a good game (check my review out), but let's be real, Forza 3 was on sale during most of it's release as low as $35 on Black Friday, and for $40 almost every other week, so it's going to sell well being $20 off.

IdleLeeSiuLung5265d ago

So was plenty of games! Many of them big games like Assassin's Creed 2 and Dragon Age and many others that despite the sale didn't do to well.

So what is your point?

SilentNegotiator5265d ago

LOL

Anyway, glad to see a good game selling.

u got owned5265d ago

Good to see great games doing well.

bioshock12215265d ago

Yes I agree I seriously think the reason Gran Turismo 5 was delayed was because of Forza 3. I mean remember last year when apparantly GT5 was going to be released in 09 and even the guy who makes gran turismo 5 said it was done and they could release it anytime they want but its up to sony to decide when. But then Forza 3 was announced and they got quiet all of a sudden. So yeah most likely sony got scared of forza 3 and delayed it so they can make it better.

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siyrobbo5265d ago

seems to me that it doesnt mean 1 new sale per second but 1 new user per second, probably people who opened there forza for christmas

ABizzel15265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

My point being that's why they all sold as well as they did. $20 off helped push people who normally would wait for the game, to get it instantly. And MS did this intentionally with almost all of their exclusives ODST, Forza, Left 4 Dead 2 were all $35 - $40 most of November and December along with multiplats. Whether this was a move to garner more 360 console sales or to try and give the gaming industry a boost since numbers were headed for a decline overall this year is unknown, but I'm sure both hold some weight to them.

@ 1.22

That was ignorant. And even if it was true, based off your comment then GT5 will be better than Forza 3, when it comes out. Maybe Turn 10 should have done the same thing and Forza physics would have been perfect.

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The Maxx5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

Several months...discounted to $19.99?

Forza 3 came out at the end of October...thats a couple of months ago not several, and i have yet to see a new copy of Forza 3 for $19.99. Do you have any links that show this? Or are we to take your lies as truth?

Bargin bin...at Toys r Us....Are we talking about Forza 3 or Forza? no link, no proof just your history of biased comments, and we are to take you seriously?

@Maddens Raiders
Just like LBP, Resistance 1 and 2, KZ2, Uncharted 2....broken record. But i guess if you say the same thing for every game, sooner or later you will be right.

How about we not all bring in speculatory sales BS for games not yet released and just focus on the topic at hand which is Turn 10 has now sold over 2 million copies of Forza 3 in only a couple of months. Good job Turn 10 for a genre over saturated with racers.

@ ABizzel1 You mean like these physics? http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Major_Tom5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

For more than a month when I was working at Toys R Us we had Forza in the bargain bin section because no one bought it at all.

And remember to relax, these are video games, not your dire virginity.

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we won5265d ago

I knew a lot of people purchased this game recently because all of a sudden a ton of people on my friends list started playing Forza 3 all at once.

Again lol at *thereapersson* effort, give it up man.

ReviewsArePolitics5265d ago

"^^ lol.... keep telling yourself that... "

You know, where the offended poster has nothing to say so he attempts to make a witty retort and then fails because he didn't prove anyone wrong.

snp5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

I knew a lot of people purchased this game recently because all of a sudden a ton of people on my friends list started playing Forza 3 all at once.
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Mind you - and this applies to all games on all systems - there's this little thing called 'Christmas Day'. A game that's been sitting in the cupboard wrapped up for 4-6 weeks wasn't necessarily 'just sold recently!' simply because it was 'just opened/registered online'.

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http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... (doesn't include Holiday sales yet)
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Forza may well have had a nice uptick in sales, but _never_ use Vgchartz to prove a point. They're woefully off more than half the time - as is discussed every time they make a blunder, then promptly forgotten about. Hell, just on this game they've had to 'readjust' their numbers (downwards in this case) numerous times already. I believe when Microsoft was announcing the game had sold '1 million', Vgchartz on numbers still without two weeks extra sales up till Microsofts announcement, had the game at >1.5 million (meaning adding those extra weeks in it's likely they were overestimating by as much as 700-900k).

The Maxx5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

I agree that VG chartz may not be the most accurate but if you can find a better online source to use i would be more than happy to use it.

"Mind you - and this applies to all games on all systems - there's this little thing called 'Christmas Day'. A game that's been sitting in the cupboard wrapped up for 4-6 weeks wasn't necessarily 'just sold recently!' simply because it was 'just opened/registered online'."

Stats show that majority of holiday shoppers don't buy Christmas gifts way before Christmas but are more inclined to do their shopping closer to the actual date. 75% of shoppers say they will do last minute shopping and 32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late. So i don't see too many game purchases done weeks before Christmas like your 4-6 week reference but rather closer to the dates 22nd - 24th.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stor...

snp5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

Stats show that majority of holiday shoppers don't buy Christmas gifts way before Christmas but are more inclined to do their shopping closer to the actual date. 75% of shoppers say they will do last minute shopping and 32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late. So i don't see too many game purchases done weeks before Christmas like your 4-6 week reference but rather closer to the dates 22nd - 24th.

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75% of shoppers say they will do "some" christmas shopping late. (of the "last minute" type). I'll presume leaving that "some" out was an accidental error, as it pretty significantly changes the complexion of that statement. (Hell, i did 'some' Christmas shopping right up until Christmas eve - but my games purchases came in early November when i caught them on sale at good prices).

"32% say that they plan to do all their shopping late." So more than two thirds buy early in other words. How early is anyone's guess. Hell, 'late' isn't even defined in this survey (one week out, two weeks out, one day out?) - it's all pretty vague and subjective (and unnecessary really when there's charts which already trace 'exactly' when Christmas related upturns in sales begin).

My '4-6 weeks' is based on the the time when a noticeable uptick in sales begins (not starts and ends, but begins) - traceable in video games in any number of yearly charts (or dvd sales charts, or any number of others). It's actually fairly conservative; most charts show the increase starting early November. To be sure the three single biggest days, or biggest three day block, may well be 22-24, but suggesting this is the largest part of a couple of months Christmas sales (season) as a whole. Nup, not by a long shot.

Major Kanimo5265d ago

@that random guy who says iv never touch forza iv beating forza 1 fully took me 2 months got to lvl 35 in forza 2 and since i have a job now i have only played forza 3 at friends and the demo i kno turn 10's devoloping skills as i have seen release game after game that i have enjoyed to so dont tell me i dont kno a thing or two about turn 10..

DARK WITNESS5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

@ ReviewsArePolitics

your right i really don't have much to say to that because the offending post is based on such a twisted thought process you know the person posting would not be worth arguing with.

I don't need to prove anything with regarding to what he was trying to propose because it's the same twisted logic thats been played over and over and there have been enough arguments against it that if the person truly wanted to see things objectively they would already know how wrong they are. lets just apply the same logic to a different argument.

sales don't = quality, thats right ya, and it must be true... so i guess that means the ps2's high sales means it must have been lacking in quality. Isn't GT one of the biggest selling games ever... but sales don't = quality to i guess forza > GT because...

the only time sales does not = quality is when it's relating to a 360 game or 360 related sales, but since you fanboys are always right then the same principal must apply to all those record breaking ps sales. it must have all been hype and media reviews. the ps brand has not really delivered any quality gaming experience, if it had it would have sold less because less sales = higher quality right ?

The Maxx5265d ago (Edited 5265d ago )

Absolutely great post. +bubbles to you.

Too bad it will fall on deaf ears.

@snp - do you have a source with those stats to support your theory?

snp5264d ago (Edited 5264d ago )

@snp - do you have a source with those stats to support your theory?
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I'm not quite sure what you're after. Something to show month to month sales which demonstrates an upsurge versus 'normal' months starting October/November? - any number of sites will do that. Highdefforums will demonstrate it on DVDs/Blurays (go into the smackdown forum), your own VGChartz for all it's overall misrepresentations will demonstrate a yearly Christmas season (or the NPD, if you want). Any number of sites will show you the Christmas sales season - which constitutes 'months' - year in year out...

I think you're being sincere - you genuinely believe Christmas sales occur only, or overwhelmingly, in the days 22-24th.. That there's nothing statistically abnormal - directly relating to Christmas - about the months November/December overall.

And, i don't mean to be rude, but that really does astound me. I'm not even sure where to start (demonstrating what is called the 'Christmas sales season' is a block of time, and not two or three dates late in December...)

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DelbertGrady5266d ago

The multiplayer options in Forza 3 are awesome!

And the career mode isn't too shabby either :)

CRAIG6675266d ago

tag is well fun aint it!!!

Perjoss5266d ago

I find the cookie cutter career modes in driving games these days very boring, start with a crappy car and do many races to unlock more cars / tracks. I loved Forza 2 and I played it to death, but I dont want to do that all over again. I think test drive unlimited got it right, open world and tons of point to point races, i just dont like race tracks anymore, boring to go round and round.

I cant wait for the new test drive game, hopefully they stick to their guns and make another open world / exploration type game again. The first game had handling issues and the cop chases were kinda weak but hopefully they will improve.

punisher995265d ago

I'm not sure if you even played close attention the the GT academy demo. Because the car used in it, is not the 350z. Its the new 370z, which is ofcourse a different car. And why do people keep talking about the handling in that demo?? That demo is set to "professional" physics, which in the GT world is the hard difficulty level. Normal GT gameplay is "standard".

CRAIG6675266d ago

Its great,i got it for xmas and aint stopped playing it since,much better than the first 2 imo,up to lvl25.

peeps5266d ago

yeh, i like the career a bit more than 2. my only problem is that it seems much much easier than the first 2.

i know i can always not use things like the rewind feature etc but after playing the game for the first time i was gifted several cars 'from turn 10' and can use them in career. problem is it's allowing me to use racing class cars against races involving cars from classes like d and c.

like i say i guess u dont have to use all the aids (and they're there to make it more accessible) but when i don't get rewarded for not using features like rewind, i find it hard not 2 use it when i know it essentially allows me to win every race in career.

green5266d ago

I don't really understand this statement "problem is it's allowing me to use racing class cars against races involving cars from classes like d and c". Are you talking about the carrer mode? Because if you are, then i don't understand how that can be possible when every race is for a particular class. So if the race is for class C, then the annoncer will say "your car is not eligible for this class,.

It will then ask you to either choose another car, remove or add upgrades to make your car eligible. I am in season 6 and never have i been able to use a car from a different class for a race with a predefined class restriction.

As for rewind, there are a few penalties. 7/10 times, your lap time will not get recorded.As for the game being easier, i will agree on certain parts. The unmodified cars are easier to drive because in Forza 2, the physics for unmodified care were completely off. They were basically undriveable which is not true of real life cars. Harder does not mean more realistic.

Now if you want the game to get harder, try playing it with the clutch enabled.

peeps5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

"Are you talking about the carrer mode? Because if you are, then i don't understand how that can be possible when every race is for a particular class."

some races are mid engine etc, and cus of my level, even tho i enter with a racing class all other cars are around the level of cars i should be racing with. the result is accepting an event and lapping cars for easy wins

another race was an audi race where they were nearly all in quatro's and i was in some souped up racing version that i got from the special edition

green5266d ago

Now i understand what you are talking about. I think its because the carrer mode is open unlike previous Forza games that were more scripted and scaled the difficulty the more you progressed. On that note i agree with you.

siyrobbo5266d ago

i completed the game (carrer mode anyways), the best racing game this gen (so far) in my opinion. Theres absolutely bags of replayability

Im going for the solid gold achievement now, sooooo time consuming and yet still so much fun

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hm0uzy5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

definatly i got bored of that game,fells arcade, but that whats happen when u play real sims lol...and i can tell u guys... forza is not even close 2 a sim, car don't fell having weight and beave estrange on replays... what a joke, but is fun...

DelbertGrady5266d ago

I don't think you have played Forza 3, and if you have you are in denial.

I've had the chance to play both Forza 3 and the GT5 Racing Academy demo, and the 350z in Forza feels a lot heavier than the one in GT.
I wasn't impressed at all by the handling in the demo. It's extremely twitchy and made the car feel somewhat like a gocart on ice. It wouldn't be fair to comment on the graphics just yet but I do hope the handling in the demo isn't representative of what's to be found in the full game.

And what's up with the music, seriously? :)

green5266d ago

- Traction contol
- Auto brake
- ABS
- Stability management control
Change it from automatic to manual with clutch. Play the game like this then come back and tell us if the handling felt arcadey.

GameOn5266d ago (Edited 5266d ago )

Firstly, don't listen to the closet troll above. Check out his past comments lol.

Secondly, InsideSimRacing reviewed this game very highly, It's up there with the best PC racing sims such as hm0uzy mentioned above.

NewZealander5266d ago

my brother is a GT fan and he was looking forward to GT5, he said he will buy a ps3 when GT5 comes out, he lives with my mum and she has a xbox360, she bought him forza 3 for xmas knowing he likes car raceing games as he is a petrol head through and through, after playing froza he found him self loveing the game, anyhow he and my mother came and had xmas with me , I live in a diff city, I have a ps3 and he saw I had the demo of GT5 so he wanted to play it, now after he played it and after him playing forza 3 well guess what, he is moveing to a flat after xmas and buying himself him self A new console and it will be so he can play his new forza game as he was not impressed with what he saw in the GT5 demo, first thing he said was whats with the 2d ppl in the crowed, forza 3 ppl r 3d, and whats with the arcade sounding music?? this made me laugh as my brother is or was a sony/GT fan through and through, my mum changed him lol just from buying him forza 3, so if you r a car fan and not a console fan you will know what game or console to get to play forza 3.

GameOn5266d ago

And he lived happily ever after. :)

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DARK WITNESS5265d ago

^^^ Ouch !! someone sounds deeply hurt on a personal level. do you need a tissue or something ?

Maybe his brother should take his purchase back to the shop because some butt hurt fanboy on the internet called him a dumbass..

taylork375265d ago

@ Baum

So the publishers of GT5 put out a demo a few months before the release and in no way is if reflective of the real game.... You're in a dream world.
So either the publishers are idiots and pump out a 200 MB demo that is complete sh*t and not related to the real game, or the demo is really part of the game, and some of it just looks like crap.

You choose.

Until then, don't get pissed off because someone actually played a demo and took it for what it is usually worth....A SAMPLE OF THE GAME.

rekonizakilla5265d ago

Forza is a good game. I don't own a 360 myself but my brother does and having played it, I like it. GT accademy has worst graphics than prologue, so don't let it put you off next year.
There is no denying that both games handle very differntly so I guess it comes down to choice.

DevastationEve5265d ago

I think it's a right slap in the face to have a game so long in development as GT 5 and yet only be able to show off 200MB of it in the demo. And on top of that they released so called "prologue versions" of their games and charged you for it every time.

Polyfony = shamelessly milking their "perceived" superiority. At least Turn 10 had to fight hard for the rep they've been able to acquire, and they did it TWICE while GT 5 hasn't even left the garage.

ReviewsArePolitics5265d ago

"I think it's a right slap in the face to have a game so long in development as GT 5 and yet only be able to show off 200MB of it in the demo."

Slap in the face? The only ones saying it's a "slap in the face" are 360 fanboys (no surpise here). I don't blame them though, after the "slap in the face" that was Forza 3, they better keep through fits and try to amortize the hype behind Gran Turismo 5 just to save face.

DevastationEve5265d ago

Well sure, it was an overstatement. But you'd think that at least the prologues would've been free, since it's all essentially just beta testing so that they can make GT 5 better.

So it's gotta be that the demo IS indicative of the final product's quality...and anyone that disagrees with that I'd have to ask then W H E N are we going to S E E that quality? When it finally releases??

*most demos are 99.9% accurate of what the final game will be, very few changes will made after the demo. and of course anything you can't play in the demo can be changed anyway.

*Sonic Unleashed demo weighs only 186 MB and it's H U G E.

*compression was used a lot more for demos due to CD space and 56k internet, but not so much anymore. so usually the detail you see in the demo will be what you see in the final game (not always).

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Forza Motorsport players slam devs for using 14 year old car model

Throughout its marketing campaign Forza Motorsport has been described as being “built from the ground up,” but some players are skeptical after discovering a reused car model that first appeared in Forza Motorsport 3.

Flawlessmic236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

yep been playing it all day and the newer car models look ok at best and the older models looks downright ugly and out place. im playing on pc at 4k with everything on ultra with dlls performance mode and the cars just look completey off, even the paints looks off, gt7 on ps5 shits on the car models here and its not even close, espcially paint and materials wise!!

its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesnt get close to living up to what it should be.

i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind.

the fuel and pit stop additions to forza are just surface level additions so they could say hey we did it, i am yet to see a meaningful incorporation of either one and the systems that would facilitate it being genuine are not there.

I cant control my power to fuel ratio during the race like i can in gt7, there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy, not that pitting is necesarry at all.

rain doesnt cause a slippery surface or aqua plaining nor does it tell you just how wet the track is like gt7 which informs you if inters or full wets are needed, no weather map, nothing.

its really just shinear version of previous forza, if you want proper sim racing where actual strategy comes in to play with longer races, with real pitt stops and having to manage your actual fuel effectively during the race then this game isnt it, go get gt7.

if you want a really simple and basic sim racer then this is for you.

majorly dissapointed, i thought this was the one game from MS that would hit all the right notes, in reality built from the ground up for next gen was a bullshit line and and its not even better than a cross gen game released a year and half ago.

MTRNYC236d ago

One big thing I feel makes GT7 so much better is that they surface mapped all the tracks so they have actual imperfections which means that sometimes the fastest path is slightly off the expected path because you have to avoid the imperfections to maintain traction.

GT7 is by far the more realistic racing game. It's kind of funny because they claim they reworked the whole driving and physics system to compete with GT Sport and Forza's not even close to as realistic as even GT Sport was and GT7 is way better than GT Sport.

Stanjara236d ago

Excellent write up.
I follow SuperGT and in the preview of the game he was not impressed with improvements.
Said it felt the same as FM7.

The whole time I was searching for ray tracing in race and it was not present.

Built from ground up my ass.

(Yes yes I know there is a performance mode and a visual mode I know)

P.s. You can choose your starting grid position. WTF is that in a sim race?

Flawlessmic236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

@mtrnyc

its all the little details, you see the track evolve in gt7 with the rubbers marks, and the marbles from the tyres start building up off the racing line on the side, you can actually see the tyre deformation when racing an f1 car for instance.

honestly, im actually shocked at how much better and more advanced gt7 is than this game, this is literally just a surface level sim racer, it would make a fantastic entry point for someone new to sim racers but my lord does it pale in comparison to gt7 where it counts

@stanjara

yep picking your starting spot is dumb AF for this type of game

dumahim236d ago

"there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy"

Wait, really? They don't have the distance or timing splits options for the HUD anymore that's been there from the start, after they add pit stops, when you'd really need something like that?

Flawlessmic236d ago

@dumahin

i will correct myself slightly just opened the game to see if it was option and you can turn it on for single player races, it was set to multiplayer only but again if the races were really gonna need it they wouldve had it set as on but no the races are like i said simple surface level sim racing.

but to answer the question correctly yes it actually does have the option, you just need to turn it on

Mr Logic236d ago

So...you're rendering at 1080p. Much wow

eagle21236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

And what about the loading times in Forza? They sure are super fast in Gran Turismo 7 (PS5). :)

outsider1624236d ago

"i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind."

This! I really hated this for every race it's always a running start and always last. And we all know the reason for that which is the bad ai.

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yeahokwhatever236d ago

"its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesn't get close to living up to what it should be" <-- Spot on. I've been playing since the second it launched and I'm a little disappointed too. You're totally right about the paint..its whacky how bad it is visually. I have pretty damn good hardware and the frame pacing is totally jacked up. I wanted a close-to-GT7 game on my PC, unfortunately Forza is the furthest from GT that its been. :-(

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isarai237d ago

Reusing assets is ok, but 14yr old model, when it's a hero model? That's just lame.

MTRNYC236d ago

“built from the ground up,”

This isn't even the oldest models, they are recycling, there is stuff dating back to the 360 in the game.

Everything is all lies with these guys.

Enjoy the battle pass and the DLC to get cars and tracks in your live service b.s. game, meanwhile we'll be getting them for free in GT7.

outsider1624236d ago

Built from ground up for the Series S most probably. I mean that's 75% of the audience right there.

Father__Merrin236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

Forza motorsport doesn't have that traditional campaign but rather just tick box races. Most reviewers are omitting this

Flawlessmic236d ago (Edited 236d ago )

i dont mind how they have done it but, theres not a whole lot of content race wise which is a let down, and the car RPG thing sucks balls.

i unlock the same things in the same order everytime and make the same upgrades in the same order everytime.

rather than being able to look at the strengths and weakness of the car im using and put my credits into upgrading the weakess im stuck upgrading parts i dont really need cause thats all i can do and by the time i do unlock what i really wanted, lo and behold the 5 race series is over and its on to a new car to rinse and repeat my unlocking and applying my upgrades

IRetrouk236d ago

I remember this being a massive negative for another game a couple gens ago👀

dumahim236d ago

On one hand, that was kind of a bigger deal since the old models didn't have an interior so it was all just a black silhouette inside. But on the other hand, they made no claims that it was built from the ground up and were clear there were premium models that did have the full interior and some without.

IRetrouk236d ago

I agree, it was jarring and not needed in my opinion, but it didn't make the game bad or worse, yet that was the impression around here at the time if you remember.

yeahokwhatever236d ago

i uh....liked the black interiors. I got the perspective without the distraction. I wish it was an option.

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10 of the best racing games of all-time

Paul writes - "Looking back over a lifetime of playing games, and racing games in particular, I am moved to consider which were the best that I have ever played. I'm going to be platform blind on this, largely because I didn't have an Xbox until the 360 came out, so many games I played were on the other consoles that were available. In order that I played them, here are the racing games that have had a lasting impact on me and 10 of the best racing games of all-time."

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gammaray131795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

this guy is an idiot need for speed was never on the c64 it was first on the 3DO in 1994

Retroman1794d ago

Correct. started on the 3DO.
To bad NFS fell from Grace.
used to buy every nfs title and GT
Now only GT NFS became crapfest.

Kados1795d ago

No particular order:

iRacing
rFactor
rFactor 2
Assetto Corsa
Dirt Rally
F1 2019
Project Cars
Project Cars 2
Gran Turismo 5
Forza 7

Brutus831795d ago

Till today, i still think the best driving game was TDU2

level 3601795d ago

I loved Colin McRae Rally, got addicted to that game for a long time.
DriveClub I highly rate as very good and enjoyable.

Profchaos1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

Colin McRae dirt Rally in VR was so good I hope you got a chance to try it

sampsonon1794d ago (Edited 1794d ago )

Yeah, it was a good game. SOO immersive. too bad it had that bad launch or it would be still going strong.

goodwin1795d ago

Where's Porsche Unleashed?

gammaray131793d ago

I think you might mean Porsche Challenge on the PS1 as that was amazing

goodwin1793d ago

I mean Need for Speed 5: Porsche Unleashed

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The Forza Franchise Has Exceeded $1 Billion in Retail Sales

Xbox: "Today, we’re excited to share a major milestone – as of December 2016, the Forza franchise has exceeded $1 billion in retail sales."

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Overload2662d ago

Pretty much expected regarding Forza Horizon 3 (selling 2.5M units). Good numbers compared to the previous iterations.

Gazondaily2662d ago

This is good news. The best racing franchise should be supported. Glad it is. #forzaplayers

Overload2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Selling more than the previous versions would be good news.

"The best racing franchise should be supported."

It is, very much so.

Gazondaily2662d ago

I know. 2.5 million copies isn't bad at all. Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too.

I wonder if there will be a racer this gen that comes close critically. If so, we're truly in for a treat.

Overload2662d ago

It is amazing watching sales matter and not matter all at the same time. Same with what they reflect.

Gazondaily2662d ago

Quality matters more than sales. Always. And that's why Forza is at the top of the game. Horizon 3 deserves those sales because we need more games like it.

Kingthrash3602662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Great to see some good news from forza! Retailing 1 billion bucks is a pretty good milestone. I remember gta5 did it In like a week or so. It may have taken forza longer to reach this milestone and with 10 games...but hey not many have reached that milestone.

Overload2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality.

"Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too."

You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?

Gazondaily2662d ago

"@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality. "

Lets be honest- frankly terrible games have seen some strong sales. Comparatively drastically weaker racers for instance have seen even higher sales.

"You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?"

I'm not all over the place at all. Weren't you the one downplaying the sales previously? See my link below. Its not rocket science mate. The game's quality is great. Sometimes the sales numbers dont do a great game justice. We've seen that time and time again in this industry.

Forza Horizon 3 is an excellent game and the highest rated racer this gen. Now it deserves great sales doesn't it? Its very simple.

Overload2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

@Septic

Let's get real here. 2.5M is great for Forza Horizon 3, but it's not that impressive overall. GT Sport will most likely do that very quickly. Driveclub sold 2M and that had a terrible launch.

1B sounds like a big number, but then you realise GT5 did approximately half a billion at retail alone.

Unspoken2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Sony fanboys out in force today!

Looks like your down play is back firing.

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Brazz2662d ago

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's" right now Forza is number one hands down and other races need to work hard to get at Forza level...
I wonder if Polyphony digital will start to fight back whit GT, cause right now Forza is killing it.

Artemidorus2662d ago

The best? It's not April Fool's yet.

EpicZinger2662d ago

Best racing franchise is already heavily supported. More than 70 million sales to be precise.

corroios2662d ago

Both of your inicial comments are stealth trolling. Why cant you be happy with the news. Then you say others troll...

You already know that when another game arrived it will surpass those numbers maybe in the first 24 hours....

XanderZane2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

@Overload
This isn't about GT Sports or Driveclub. You always need to bring some Sony games into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. Forza games have always sold the 2-4 million even when it was on the XBox 360 with over 87 million units sold. It has it's own fanbase that buy it regularly. No one cares what GT Sports or DriveClub sold. They aren't even in the article. All you want to do is TROLL XBox One articles.

@Unspoken
Yes. Trolling Overlord has returned to another XBox One article when he most likely doesn't even own one. He was doing fine until he decided to bring Sony exclusives racers into the mix. He didn't even go for Project Cars or Need For Speed games? lmao!!

Lime1232662d ago

Fantastic numbers for FH3! Already at halfway of GT6 - the worst selling mainline Gran Turismo game.

rainslacker2662d ago

9 releases, over how many years? Retail sales over 1 billion, is anywhere between 16-20 million copies depending on the selling price(not all being $60).

It's great it makes money, don't get me wrong, but with the number of releases it's had, for how long it's been an established franchise, it's not really that remarkable.

Gazondaily2662d ago

Well if the sales don't impress you, perhaps the game itself will. For those who haven't played it, you're missing out on of the best racers ever.

Kribwalker2662d ago

It is a fantastic racing game, even if you aren't a huge fan of racing games, it's a lot of fun. I will keep supporting this series. Not the biggest sim racing fan so the mainline games I usually pass on, but I've bought FH2 and 3 and got the first one with games with gold and they're great

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rainslacker2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Sorry if my putting it into perspective hurt people's feelings.

I'm glad it's making money, and the most recent game is excellent, but 1 billion over 9 releases is kind of commonplace for a moderately successful franchise.

@Dealwithit

If Forza did all that, I'd be impressed.

But for the most part, I'd not be gushing over the sales of any game, with 9 releases, that only made 1 billion at retail. At least not in the way some people here are trying to make it into being the best thing ever and indicative of the game being a high end money maker which somehow is indicative of it's quality, which is a separate matter altogether.

My numbers are sound, and while I find it wonderful that it's a successful franchise, I think too many people are looking at the number, without actually thinking about the rest of the picture.

But, if it makes you all feel better, I'll give you a freebie. 1 billion in retail sales doesn't include digital. So since you all think that Xbox somehow has a 2:1 digital vs retail attach rate, then you can run with Forza having made 3 billion.

Gazondaily2662d ago

"I'm glad it's making money"

You sure? You sure don't sound it lmao. Go play the game. It's wicked. Downplaying the sales aside, this a classic and the best racer this gen.

bouzebbal2662d ago

at the same time when you see what x1 owners have to play....
but yeah, something for you guys to justify the purchase,huh?

MyDietEqualsGames2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Lol. The best. Much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. There are a few good ones out there, including GT, however this is Forza's moment, so I will try not to take away from it. With that said, Congratulations, Turn10!

IamTylerDurden12662d ago

Overload

Driveclub sold over 3 million. It sold nearly 2.5m physical and with the f2p version it did huge digital numbers. DC is a 3m seller, and well deserved.

Septic

It's funny how u think Driveclub is a terrible game bc of the disastrous launch. If u really were the gaming aficionado u claim you'd know that Driveclub is a different game now. A dramatically improved game and a great racer. Don't act like your not referring to Driveclub in your comments here. U even posted on the PS4 N4G group that Driveclub sucked and Forza is way better. Now i realize it was this article that motivated u to make that comment.

LexHazard792661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

They mad GT isnt the best racer anymore. So how else to get over the frustration than attacking Xbox gamers with bs...Lol.

rainslacker2661d ago

@Septic

Which one? There are nine games in the franchise. The topic here is about the franchise. If it were about FH3 making one billion at retail, then I'd be thouroughly impressed.

I have played FH3, and several other games in the franchise. But what does that matter to the point I"m trying to make that people are gushing over it, using it as an example of how great FH3 is, while ignoring the fact that it equates to around 112 million on average per release. Is 112 million per game really that amazing?

It's not poor, but as I said, it's not remarkable,or worthy of the correlations to quality that some people are making.

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GtR35olution2662d ago

Lol. I like the nice wording of saying the forza franchise is the best selling this generation when there has been a forza game every year since the xbox one release and there'll be a new game(forza 7) this year. Gran turismo sport will outsell them all and be the best driving simulator.

Gazondaily2662d ago

I'd be very impressed if GT Sport scored higher than Horizon 3. Different types of games I know but would be impressive nonetheless.

GT Sport stands the best chance of dethroning Forza Motorsport and taking the crown though. I like what I've seen so far. Has improved dramatically from what was shown at first. Sales wise also, it will definitely dominate. That's a no brainer.

Neonridr2662d ago

haven't sales of Gran Turismo been declining with each release though? You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales..

Overload2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

"You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales.."

Gran Turismo 6 Passes 5 Million Sales, Series Climbs to 76.8 Million
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Gran Turismo 6 launched on PS3 at the same time as the PS4, which was a mistake in my opinion.

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GtR35olution2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Gran turismo 6 sold over 6 million copies and gran turismo 5 sold over 10 million copies according to sony. There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

People who normally talk about review scores and menu system when comparing forza and gran turismo should actually be talking about the games content and which is actually a better driving simulator. Gran turismo games are made to be as realistic as possible to where the cars in the games try to simulate the driving physics of the real life ones. Forza games normally has cars with characteristics that are unlike realistic ones and youll see silly things like stock vehicles ets being 10 seconds faster than they are in real life.

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Elit3Nick2662d ago

There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

I don't see why this would make it any less of a simulator than GT, especially considering that engine tuning is a big part of GT as well. Being able to race a large variety of cars together is part of Forza's success, some people don't like being restricted to certain cars, and it's extremely rewarding working on a car to make it competitive. I'm sure GT Sport's reliance on eSports and restricted car choices will turn off some GT fans, but that's the kind of niche Sony is selling it for, while GT7 will be the more traditional GT game.

TheCommentator2662d ago

Maybe GT will go back to it's roots, so you can simulate driving on an oval with your analog sticks rubber-banded together! GT: Port is already halfway to it's roots anyways, at least judging by the graphics and AI, so anythings' possible.

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darthv722662d ago

I like both GT and Forza. That has to account for something?

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IAmLoki2662d ago

Congrats to Forza and Microsoft for becoming one of the world's most successful driving game franchises. The Forza Horizon series is my favorite with beautiful open world racing, jaw dropping visuals, the best controls, and amazing racing tracks, jam packed with intense action.

mcstorm2662d ago

I agree and I hope the sales for it goes up. Enjoyed 1 and 2 but for me 3 seems to set the bar again for open world racing games.

20live2662d ago

not sure why you are being down voted , Forza Horizon 3 was epic

XanderZane2662d ago

The trolls on here are down voting because they think GT Sports will be better, even though it's not out yet. I hope GT Sport is better then GT5 & GT6. Those games made many fans leave the series. Polyphony needs to come up with something new for GT Sport. I'll continue to enjoy Forza 6 and Forza Horizon 3 while we wait.

XanderZane2662d ago

LOL!! Don't believe me with GT5 vs GT6 sales? Look again. Keep down voting me when I'm right. Sales going down, down, down with GT ever since GT3. Maybe Overlord can damage control this without having to mention an XBox game.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GT3 sales - 14.98 million worldwide
GT4 sales - 11.66 million worldwide
GT5 sales - 10.70 million worldwide.
GT6 sales - 3.32 million worldwide
Over 7 million gamers suddenly stopped buying Gran Turismo series after GT5? This is on a game console with over 87 million sold.

edeprez2662d ago

I finished FH3, but it really wasn't that great. I really loved FH2, probably my favorite racing game. It's just a copy/paste of FH2, most of the races feel similar to each other, most of the cars are behind a paywall, and the showcases were a letdown for me. Also who wants to customize and name every race/bucket list challenge, i would have been happier with more sets of challenges like in FH 2.
Anyway, i may have ruined the experience for myself by replaying FH2 before launch, so maybe I'm way off base here, i just didn't get any of that "epic" that you noticed.

MRMagoo1232662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

@xanda

Sony announced gt6 sold over 5 million so you pulling vg numbers and being wrong makes you look desperate and stupid. Even at 5 million it's double forza horizon 3 sales. 😂

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Liqu1d2661d ago

Lol at Xander using vgchartz when official numbers already exist.

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ShadowKnight2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

I wonder and curious if half of those sell numbers is from PC players. Probably not it's probably not selling to well on PC

Kiwi662662d ago

How can half the sales be from PC when only FH3 & Forza Apex are the only two from the whole series that are on Xb/PC

TheHorseTamer2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

1/2 pn PC? Haha, that was a good laugh

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game4funz2662d ago

So what? Are you saying there's nothing to be happy about with expected sales?
On that note anyone can say that about any game.

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shiva12662d ago

Tell me one thing though.... Would getting 2.5 mil sales on ps4 for half arsed game is difficult? There is no racing game on ps4 that meets forza and the ps4 gamers would just bite irrespective of quality.... Just like NMS. Having 50mil sales but still not a single game is as big as overwatch, GTAV, FFXV..... Talk about that attach rate and quality. There was this talk about UC4 goty and now i hear nothing....

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jokerisalive2662d ago

A great series. Good to see it hit this milestone.

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user64978722662d ago

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aaronaton2662d ago

As a quick comparison, the Gran Tursimo series (as of 2015) has sold over 76 million. Lets say the average game is £30, even though GT5 cost me £50..
If my maths are corrects, the GT series has made at least £22.8 billion. GT sport can only add to this. Plus this is GBP and not Dollars.

OsafuneKatana2662d ago

GT will always be racing king. Forza is lil piece of shit in front of it. :)

danny8182662d ago

its alot younger than GT jackass

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XanderZane2662d ago

It wasn't king last gen. Don't cry. It's only a game.

LandCruiser2662d ago

@xanderzane

It was king and has always been. Don't cry because truth is bitter

ShadowKnight2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Hilarious 😂😂😁

Raiden2662d ago

@Osafunekatan
I would love to see you race some of my Xbox friends, you call Forza a little piece of shit 💩, it would have been nice for you to prove your skill from your GT experience, I have witness my friends at our local game outlet crush so many other racers, all they say Forza made them better racers. I would love to see and upload the outcome on on this site or YOUTUBE. Let me if you are interested, GT skilled racer VS Forza skilled race epic showdown

Bruh2662d ago

Wish my mom would've let me come on the internet and interact with strangers when I was 10

ONESHOTV22662d ago

OsafuneKatana--- king of what arcade racers ? maybe it is but sure it's not being a sim

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Edito2662d ago

I agree with you that GT will always be the King it has a story while forza was created to meet or exceed GT Standards... but i can't agree with the Sh*tty part, while i prefer GT all the way i think Forza is a very good game...

IamTylerDurden12661d ago

Xander

GT absolutely was king last gen, are you joking? Did you hear about this game they call GT5? It did pretty well...

Last gen alone GT sold over 20m. That's nearly what Forza has sold in its entirety.

LexHazard792661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

I've come to realize that theres no rational in people who only play on one console. Because that series might be all they know. To them its the best thing ever. Yet just from looking at reviews GT has been on a steady decline.

GT hasnt been King of racing since PS2..Lol. Forza is the King Slayer.
Their Motorsports series is great and well you already know about Horizon. Even PGR was better than GT.

Even Driveclub is better than GT!! Yes I said it.

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slate912662d ago

Good thing this article is about Forza and not GT, or you may have a valid comment.

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XanderZane2662d ago

If this was a GT Sport article, the trolls would still find a way to bring an XBox game into the article. lol!!

JasonKCK2662d ago

TitaniumRx you are the problem here

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JasonKCK2661d ago

Ps4andPcRocks And you are the troll here

again part of the problem.

And apparently I have triggered you before

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343_Guilty_Spark2662d ago

Not only are you trolling but your "maths" are wrongs.

76 million * $50 = 3.8 billion

Using a more conservative number, say the average cost of the game over its lifetime was $30

76 million * $30 = 2.28 billion

Now troll elsewhere. This is about Forza not GT (which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza).

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343_Guilty_Spark2662d ago

@Basurabox

More trolling.

GT:

More time on the market
Much larger Sony base
Using average cost over lifetime $30 sales are 2.28 billion vs 1 billion.

I'd say sales are pretty even.

Lime1232662d ago

GT has beem out twice as Forza, still last mainline Gran Turismo game was Gran Turismo 6 and last mainline Forza game was Forza 6.

?

rainslacker2662d ago

Why such a low average lifetime price? It's probably closer to $45, since half of a games sales tend to be within the first year...particularly games with recurring incremental releases. Within a year, most games of this nature typically are still priced around $30. Anything after that is probably inconsequential to the average.

Anyhow, at 76 million * $45 = 3.4 billion.

Kind of pointless to speculate though. MS provided full retail sales, so we'd only have to guess at the number of actual units sold to derive the average price, and then forget it anyways, because 1 billion is still one billion dollars.

Stogz2662d ago

Forza has what though, 9 releases? GT has like 7. How does the time on the market matter?

joshljr2662d ago

@Stogz

I think time on the market matters because you're more likely to skip an iteration if releases are frequent.

_-EDMIX-_2661d ago

How is he trolling? Yes, GT has a larger fan base clearly because it is the preferred game.

More time on the market is irrelevant have you forgotten that Gran Turismo 5 literally sold over 11 million units?

At the time of Gran Turismo 5 release it to literally out sold every single Forza game in existence combined!!!!!!

Is Medal of Honor outselling Call of Duty? Well that's older than Call of Duty right?

Seriously buddy get over it , GT is the preferred series and PD always does a good job.

LexHazard792661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

@ edmix,

Lol...Forza(only Forza Horizon 3 wasnt and I dont count Apex) and GT are exclusives. So being the "preferred racer" is relative to what console you own. So if you own Playstation most likely Gran Turismo is the best. And Xbox, Forza. Not hard to understand...

And are you comparing Forza to Medal of Honor? Forza gets better reviews than GT and is relevant. Where Medal of Honor now...
We'll see at end of yr what racer is better. Forza 7 or GT Sports(Prolouge)..
Go ahead and press that button on the right.

thisismyaccount2661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

GT launched 1998
19 years old with 6 main games + 1x PSP game and 5 "bigger paid demos called prologues"
76,000,000 x $30 = $2,280,000,000,000 (12 entries at 6.3mill. copies sold each)

Versus

Forza launched in 2005
soon 12 years old with 6 main games and 3x spin offs (total of 9 games).
22,500,000 x $30 = $675,000,000 (9 entries at 2.5mill. copies sold each)

Far from that $1bill. they claim. They either sold more copies or the avg. price (revenue) is higher than $30 per sold copy. At $30 they would have sold about 33mill. copies (< highly unlikely since 2015, to sell 13 mill. copies). So, yeah the avg. price hast to be higher than the $30 for each sold copy.

old comparison done in 2015 https://imgur.com/a/1ASyv

12x 2 = 19 ("which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza")

#YABADATMATH

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Raiden2661d ago

Look, who cares, MS/XBOX CONGRATULATIONS.
GT has been around longer, but has produced less, every year we get a new and improved FORZA either motorsport or horizon every year, this makes it very hard for GT to out match, because when GT improves it's take them 2yrs to improve as with Forza, well every year and there is improvements. But both games have there place, just enjoy it and don't be sad that your favourite game is not the headliner, just play 🎭 your game.

ChrisChambers2662d ago

With the technology available to you there's no way you should've inflated GT sales by $20 billion. If you're an adult you should be embarrassed. If you're still in school you need to pay attention in math class, maybe stay after school sometime and have your teacher show you how to use a calculator.

Yes GT has sold a lot of copies, but don't let fanboyism turn you into an idiot like the 21 people that have agreed with you so far

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Gazondaily2662d ago

Sick achievement. Many people doubted the numbers:
http://n4g.com/news/1974704...

But looks like those are some noice sale numbers indeed.

Well deserved. Such a sick racer. Was playing it this weekend and aaaah. Feel sorry for all those missing out 😍

christocolus2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

Lol @ the comments on that link

The Forza Horizon series got me and my friends back into racing games. FH3 is just so good. I can't wait to see what the studio does next. Hopefully It will be a day one purchase just like FH3. PG and T10 are super talented. Congrats to all involved with the development of this game.

rainslacker2662d ago

Apparently playground is opening a new satellite studio to make open world games. I do think FH3 was some of their best work, and a really good racer. We get to play it at work, and they have the nice wheel set ups and stuff and it gets a lot of my time when I have no actual work to do.

I'd imagine their core studio is still going to be working on F:H though.

Featuring_Dante2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

that last line, you're really asking for it.
better watch out, that console war neutrality might be blown now.
How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?

Gazondaily2662d ago

LMao asking for what? All racing fans should experience the brilliance of Horizon 3. It's such an epic game. Have you played it?

Aloren2662d ago

"How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?"

That's a silly question. Because they like it better ? Cause it's getting better reviews ? Because no matter what the game is, some people will base their opinion on their personal taste rather than on some sponsorship deals ? See, like some put PES above Fifa, how dare they have their own preference!

Featuring_Dante2661d ago (Edited 2661d ago )

seriously though, if you disregard the FIA, you just proved you're a casual scrub who knows nothing about cars.
@Aloren which is why i said *OBJECTIVELY*

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zerocarnage2662d ago (Edited 2662d ago )

I don't usually like forza games, because I don't usually enjoy race games, but must say after my gamble on horizon 3 I'm more than 100% happy.

I'm a blood n guts game kinda lover, so this was a nice change.

I think there's really only a couple of race games out that can compete with forza, project cars and gran turismo. Need for speed I thought on some games was going in the rite direction and don't get me wrong now and again it can pull out a surprise game, but it's not consistent enough like forza.

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