tdrules5262d ago

so that will be 8 quid for people paying for their online and free for people getting free dedi servers on Steam.
sweet

Yuprules5262d ago

That's why you buy the PC version and blame MS for the pricing on the Xbox Live.

Why o why5262d ago

since SOME 360 owners wont complain I will....Im starting a petition to run alongside my x game chat one for sony;)

mrv3215262d ago

Microsoft PAYS NOTHING! All the money comes from gold users, why not make this a gold exclusive... since your getting it early. Valve seems happy enough to give it for free... Microsoft just wants money, I see this not happening on PSN since so long as developers pay the 11 pence a gig they can charge what they like.

SilentNegotiator5262d ago

Good. The new characters are boring.

GRABBING PEELS AGAIN!

lowcarb5262d ago

This really does suck the way there charging 360 users for everything. I'm sure it's worth every penny but really what's the difference.

y0haN5262d ago

It's not made clear if it's free for PC users.. Valve has really confused the hell out of me lately (with their schizophrenic approaches to different games' support.)

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AliTheBrit195262d ago

Lol I won't be buying, I only buy DLC which is an expansion now

I.e GTA IV DLC, real DLC.

Why o why5262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

are TRUE value.....horse armour, yoda and this are NOT...vote wallets people, stay away

KillaManiac5262d ago

haha this is amazing...

So this L4D2 DLC is in reality REVERSE DLC. Since L4D2 really shoulda just been DLC for L4D1.

blue7xx75262d ago

That's good news so a new campaign and you get all 4 survivors from Left 4 Dead 1. Yeah definitely getting it.

Pandamobile5262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

Further proof that Valve knows exactly what their customers want.

Enjoy paying for free content again, Xbox boys.

tdrules5262d ago

also to add onto this, Im totally sure Valve would rather give 360 owners it for free.
M$ do not.

AliTheBrit195262d ago

Why do you have something against Xbox owners dude?

My set up could happily run Left 4 Dead 2

But I much prefer gaming on the 360, if Valve have love for the 360

Why can't you?..

JonahFalcon5262d ago

Better than having NO content, PS3 fanboys.

(Not that I care either way - I just hate fanboys in general.)

Chimerhazzard5262d ago

Maybe because the PC version is worlds apart better than the XBOX360 version in terms of graphics, is cheaper, has free DLC, has free online play, has better online play (dedicated servers) and has better controls? (FPS on a controller... is ridiculous when compared to keyboard + mouse)

For me I don't have anything against someone who doesn't own a PC good enought to run Left4dead 2 and buys the console version. But I do have something against someone who has a choice and decides to waste more money on a worse product.

Pandamobile5262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

I'm just telling you to have fun paying like $10 for the content we get for free, on top of the $10 price difference already between the platforms.

Your price for L4D2 and all its content = $70 USD

My price = $45 CAD

And to be honest, Valve really doesn't give two sh1ts about the 360 if you compare the support they give to the 360 versions of their game compared to the PC versions.

Two words: Step-child.

@tdrules - Valve tried to make the L4D1 content free, but Microsoft wouldn't release it on Live without a fee.

@Jonah - Valve games sell way more on PC, what are you talking about? They would have to sell 2-3x more copies of L4D2 on the 360 to match the amount of money the PC version rakes in. On Steam, every cent goes to Valve. When you buy the 360 version, some goes to the retailer, some goes to Microsoft, some goes to EA, and finally, Valve gets whats left.

And if Valve REALLY loved money, they'd charge for DLC the way almost all other companies do.

I'm sure Valve's still rolling in the money they made from Half-Life 2 considering it sold like 16 million copies.

JonahFalcon5262d ago

I own the PC version, but rented the 360 version on GameFly, and it was pretty hot there, too.

If everyone is using the same controls, what's the diff? Just enjoy the friggin' game.

JonahFalcon5262d ago

@Pandamobile: You're joking, right? Valve *loves* the 360 - they love the MONEY it brings in. In fact, 360 drives the software market right now - that platform has the best attach rate, the most software sales, and most importantly, the same general software architecture as a PC.

Budg3tG4m3r5262d ago

Hate is a strong word but I agree

cyberwaffles5262d ago

hell yeah, queensryche! love that band. everyone should listen to "queen of the reich" for a hardcore metal song.

30sec5262d ago

Add *in the United States* at the end.

Budg3tG4m3r5262d ago (Edited 5262d ago )

playing L4D2 right now and playing a custom playlist of Queensryche songs Art of Life, up next Lady Jane :)

aaronisbla5262d ago

and then someone comes in spouting " well its better than nothing since ps3 fanboys gets nothing".....

Panda is far from being a fanboy of either home system. Try not to sound so bitter about it Jonah, he makes an excellent point. And he is right about 360 being like a step child to them. I'm thinking if they could, they would prefer most of their sells to come from steam, since they get a bigger share there.

Looking forward to this though

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TheColbertinator5262d ago

On Steam perhaps.On Live...hahahahaha no.

Anyway I enjoyed the L4D cast more then the L4D2 cast.Francis was an awesome guy and he certainly is welcome in the Zombie infested South.

Pandamobile5262d ago

Lol, Valve would never charge for DLC. It will probably cost like 500 MS points because Microsoft doesn't like giving out free content.

You can bet your ass it'll be free on Steam.

chrisulloa5262d ago

I have it on PC, it'll probably be free through steam. Sad thing is some companies are charging for DLC's on PC now, like Bioware with DA:O.

Pandamobile5262d ago

Valve is the last of a dying breed :(

Every other dev and publisher have seized the opportunity to rake in tons of cash by charging for bonus content, but Valve's still on the straight and narrow and that's one of the reasons their fanbase is so large and loving.

mcgrawgamer5262d ago

that's also the reason they still make tons of money off games like oh I don't know, Team Fortress 2 where people are still buying the game as if it were a new release. instead of nickeling and diming consumers 5 or 10 bucks for dlc, give the dlc away for free and continue to sell the game. When a game can be sold for 2.99 on a steam sale and still make money you'd think other devs and companies would take notice of that business plan.

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN56d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit56d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead56d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica56d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL56d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit56d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper55d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica54d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer56d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit56d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer56d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit56d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff218356d ago (Edited 56d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer56d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff218356d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper55d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal56d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood56d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff218356d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde56d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

Number1TailzFan168d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist166d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja165d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast166d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot168d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide166d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar166d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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The Best Co-Op Horror Games You've Missed in Halloween

Try to cope with your friend through terror with this list featuring the best horror Co-Op games you can play today.

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