Sega: PS3 Bayonetta load times will be fixed

Sega is well aware of the of the long loading times that plagues the PS3 version of Bayonetta, and are looking into a the best possible way to fix the problem before the North American version of the game is released.

An inquiry made over at the official Platinum Games boards received a response from Sega that "they were well aware of this issue and are working on a solution."

Another Sega representative made Sega's stance even clearer:

[rtonaey]

It says much when a company is willing to go the extra mile to satisfy the consumers. Especially in this age when all most of them care about is the almighty dollar

[swiftshot93]

Going the extra mile? Making the PS3 version run just as well as the 360 version isnt "going the extra mile." If you charge $60 for the PS3 version, its SUPPOSED to run just as well as the other version. PS3 isnt some second thought hand me down console, its just as relevant as the 360. Its especially sad because Bayonetta will sell better on PS3.

"are looking into a the best possible way to fix the problem"

So by best possible fix do they mean a 20 GB install?

Edit: @ below

As the publisher they hold the responsibility to provide what ever Platinum needs to have the PS3 version running well. That includes R&D for the technology necessary, the extra budget, and needed be, the extra time.

[PirateThom]

To be entirely fair to Sega here, they're doing a port of Platinum Games 360 code because Platinum can't/won't do it themselves and they've already got it to run pretty close any further fixes is going the extra mile because this never should have been up to Sega to port in the first place.

In this case, the PS3 version is a second thought hand me down, but not because of Sega.

[Da One]

Why Platinum Games won't do it is beyond me, Sega has shown they know what to do when they get behind the PS3

But as the past has proven porting to the PS3 from the 360 is a disaster waiting to happen, it gets worst when you hand your work off to another studio(Orange Box anyone)

Sega was nice enough to discount the game 5 bucks(not a lot but hey) and try to fix the loading times for the game, which to me means, if they're willing to try to go that extra mile I'm willing to buy their game, also i played the Demo, very good game

[Noctis Aftermath]

I'm glad sega are working on a fix for the game, hopefully other issues get sorted out aswell, sega didn't have alot of time to port this, the blame can be placed entirely on platinum games.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

How about getting the frame rate of the PS3 version to match the 360?

If load time is such an issue, then give the option of installing the whole game onto the hard drive. There, problem solved!

[Lifendz]

with all the good Sony vibes lately, the great NPD numbers, the Uncharted 2 sales, an ad campaign the likes of which we haven't seen yet this gen, 3rd party games largely looking the same or maybe slightly better on PS3, etc etc we now have to deal with Sega's big release being ported (or handed to another dev to make) on the PS3?

That bites. Bayonetta looked really cool. I really hope this isn't another Orange Box fiasco. I'd like to think that the PS3 version will be the same as the 360 one but 65 bucks is not worth the gamble.

Maybe I'll have to eat my own words and rely on a lens of truth eval on the game.

[CrippleH]

Tons of other devs learned their lesson and not do ports. Platinum game is doing their first game for this gen and is repeating the mistakes of other devs this gen, by porting the PS3 version.

"History repeats itself".

[presto717]

I wont be touching this for a long ass time.

[BYE]

@1.8

It's Platinum Games fault. Not Segas.

They should have made it on PS3 first and have it ported to the 360, that way both would look identical.

But they took the lazy path and now they blame Sega for it.

[Marceles]

I have the game and load times are pretty much the biggest gripe. The framerate and texture arguments have been overexaggerated...the 360 version may run better, but that doesn't mean the PS3 version is non-playable

[Syronicus]

Yes, it does say much for a company when they will go the extra mile and release a game that is the lesser of it's counterparts plagued with long load times and horrible screen tearing. It's good to see Sega going the extra mile!!!

Pathetic devs and their lazy ports.

[NeoCloud]

Well in the future if PlatinumGames are busy making other games with other game companies then we will have to get used to SEGA doing Bayonetta Games [They Own Bayonetta Oh Yes They do].

[ActionBastard]

It's good to know a game I considered a rental is STILL considered a rental.

[i3eyond the Circle]

I thought the textures and color was the main gripe most Ps3 users had with Bayonetta.

[swiftshot93]

I think the fact PS3 owners will be getting the shaft for a multiplatform game in 2010 (over 3 years after launch) upsets PS3 owners like myself.

[i3eyond the Circle]

That sucks tho.

You'd think a port for a game that isn't a graphical powerhouse would be simple.

[commodore64]

@ swiftshot

I agree dude.
As a proud ps3 owner I am also sick to death of the gimped multiplats on the ps3, especially now that there is evidence the trend is continuing onto 2010.

I am continually asking myself whether the ps3 is maybe not quite as powerful as Sony assured us it was?
If it really were so much more powerful, we'd be seeing all the multiplats looking invariably better on ps3, right?
That's just common sense.

Yet they're not.
Very disappointing.

[raztad]

@commodore

I think you wasted some bandwith with that "analysis".

Give it up dude. Bayonetta is just a so-so port. I've played ports from the xbox to the PC (*cough ME *caugh) that look crappy even when maxed out. Following your logic the xbox is more powerful than a high end pc, right?

If you want some common sense:
Play KZ2, then UC2 and GoW3 demo while you wait for GT5 and GoW3 in march.

@ultimolu
OK

@bellow
It's definitely saddening to see subpar ports. Both Platinum and Sega are to blame. Platinum first because they pulled a Valve and Sega for the bad port. I guess this help me to save some monies for GoW3 and Heavy Rain.

[ultimolu]

No raztad, let them continue. That's all they can gloat about. Not exclusives but multiplatform games.

[swiftshot93]

You know, it is disappointing. It doesnt have anything to do with the power of the console, its just that Sony made the PS3 harder to develop for. You have to put more time and effort into making a PS3 version of a game to match the 360 counterpart. But the PS3 has been pushed to heights we have yet to see on 360, so we already know anything 360 can do PS3 can. Its just that as long as there are more 360s out there, developers will make it first for 360, then port it to PS3 which doesnt turn out well sometimes. There are some exceptions, like Criterion, Infinity Ward, Capcom, Rockstar, and EA Redwood that have their PS3 versions absolutely perfect. They independently develop the PS3 version separately, and match their 360 counter parts feature for feature.

However having a game that runs crap compared to 360 in 2010 is just unacceptable, and I hope Sega understands that.

[Darkstorn]

@3.2-
The 360's code allows for far more mistakes than the PS3's does, and as a result porting from the 360 to a PS3 usually ends up with performance inequality. If devs would simply develop first on the PS3, and then port over to the 360, then PS3 versions of games would look and run better, and 360 games would as well since the code is more stable.

[i3eyond the Circle]

@Ultimolu

Why does it have to be a competition between multiplatforms and exclusives?

I prefer competition between GAMES.

[HolyOrangeCows]

In that case, the PS3 would STILL come out on top.

It's actually releasing lots of great exclusives and has most of the great multiplats (minus L4D2 this year) which are sometimes a little better (Lost Planet 2, MW2 (See the LOT comparison with fixed lighting), Burnout:Paradise) or a little worse (Assassin's Creed 2, Fallout 3, Dragon Age). And in the end, those games pretty much play the same anyway.

[CrippleH]

There will be no competition in the same games if 1 version gets short end of the stick and devs want both versions to be equal.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

WRONG

Halo3, ODST, GoW1, GoW2, Viva Pinata, Forza 2, Forza 3, Fable 2, Crackdown, Mass Effect, L4D, L4D2, GRAW, Dead Rising, Dead or Alive, Saints Row,

Great games there unavailable for PS3

and when the best multiplat games like:

CoD series, Orange Box (I dont actually count this as a PS3 game it runs so bad on PS3), Rainbow6, GRAW2, Assasins Creed, Resident Evil 5, GTA4, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Splinter Cell DA

:Run MUCH (and I mean MUCH MUCH MUCH) better on 360... Then whats the point in having a PS3?

Unless you like the look of stuttering framerates... but personally that isnt my thing

[rtonaey]

lot more

[Odin777]

I've played the PS3 demo (numerous times, actually) and I haven't really encountered anything that makes the game unplayable. I have a 360 but I'll probably end up getting the "inferior" PS3 version anyway. I just hate that xbox controller...f***king cheap-ass d-pad.

[Noob]

CoD series, Rainbow6, GRAW2, Assasins Creed, Resident Evil 5, GTA4, and Dead Space all run fine on PS3. Quit exaggerating comparisons.

"Run MUCH (and I mean MUCH MUCH MUCH) better on 360"

No, not even close. You make it seem like these games run at 480p, 15fps on PS3 while they run native 1080p, 120fps on 360. Your just proof people exaggerate these comparisons to death and try to make it seem these games are unplayable on PS3, which is far from true. I can't believe you used SCDA, that game is almost 4 years old and looks comparable to a Wii game.

[Digitaldude]

Digitaldude:Damn right you will Sega.

[Noob]

But it's a start I guess.

[BYE]

I would be interested in the game but the textures and colors are a deal breaker.

Hopefully they fix those as well...

[inbetweener]

Fix the frame rate and the ridiculous amounts of screen tearing. If they did that, I wouldn't care about longer load times and I might even consider buying it.

[theEnemy]

NA Release!

[patterson]

Good.

[ultimolu]

Fix, and I will buy.

[stonecold1]

the ps3 version would have came out on top look at hte tekken and finalfantasy 13 suition tekken6 it should had stayed on ps3 and look what happened to be suprise i dont think the xbox 360 could not handle the game if it was built ground up for hte ps3 instead the game got gimped thanks m$

[WIIIS1]

PS3 fans don't have to fret over getting the vastly inferior version of this game because the game is honestly mediocre at best despite Famitsu's score. And I say this based on completing the game on the superior version. The graphics are really bad at times, sometimes reminiscent of Bullet Witch which was crap. Gameplay is way too repetitive, story is boring, characters are ridiculous and script is horrible.

[ultimolu]

It's superior on the 360 and yet the graphics are crap.

Sure.

Whatever. That's about the only thing 360 fans such as yourself can brag about. Multiplatform games and YET not one decent 360 game can match up to games on the PS3.

I'm gonna play some Assassin's Creed II while you brag about graphics because it makes you feel so good.

[Ninji]

For people who like to play generic button mashers.

[chrisulloa]

Lol, button smashers. You obviously haven't witnessed it's combat system.

[DigitalAnalog]

I appreciate the fact that "Sega" is doing the port but unfortunately it still isn't up-to-standards. Loading issues, frame-rate and graphic detail MUST be on par or similar to the 360 before it can warrant my purchase.

[devilhunterx]

Sega should have Sony on speed dial.

[jc48573]

for the people who imported the game as it seems like we are getting a better edition.

[rtonaey]

Hopefully not only the load times, but the overall game.

[Droid Smasha]

anybody buying multi plats for ps3 should punch themselves in the face you deserve it.

[baum]

RROD 60% owners should kill themselves. In fact, if there are any doubts, just wait for the day cross-game chat is available on PS3 to seal the deal, that will make you sure you have no regrets post-suicide in the afterlife (xtards probably believe there is an afterlife considering how delusional you are).

[Droid Smasha]

did you really say....JUST WAIT? you really are a droid retard

[ZBlacktt]

60% fail rate? Are you kidding me??? Atleast we can PLAY games, lol... You just sit and wait for it to die. Then call for your return box and sit some more.... lol. Sounds like epic fun. But yeah, multi plats have issues while exclusives win GOTY.

[DLA2K9]

"PS3, it only sucks at everything it tries to do"

[inbetweener]

pretty weak.

[JeepGamer]

Go ahead, fix the load times, while you're at it fix the frame rate and graphics problems too.

[slave2Dcontroller]

LOL. Thats the least of my worries. They need to fix textures, frame rates, and alas, load times. Its been a loooooooooong time since I have seen such a huge difference in multi plats. SEGA I wish you luck. your gonna need it, seeing as though you cant even port Sonic(Your Flagship Franchise) to the Tre properly.

[rtonaey]

too much discrepancies

[djfullshred]

Skipping. All signs point to bad port of a game not designed to run on PS3 hardware.

[slave2Dcontroller]

like the game so I wont be skipping it. The reality of the situation is I'm gonna have to play it on my punk azz 360. I guess it cool because I hardly ever use it.

Truth be told, from what I understand about Bayonetta is that it was slated to be a 360 exclusive so the game was never built with the PS3 in mind. I guess somewhere along the lines SEGA seen dollar $igns and asked Platinum to do a PS3 port but they refused and told SEGA to do it themselves LOL. I guess they knew how the game would turn out and didnt want the dirt on their hands.

This IS all SEGAs' fault. They are porting a game that was not designed to run on the PS3 AT ALL. The flip side of the coin is that the game will be on the PS3(In poor form). My thing is, I'm not condoning this type of irrational behavior. If they want my money then they should do what it takes to get it. Suggesting that they will be fixing the load times is almost offensive. I guess they didnt notice all the other stuff that plagues this PS3 game.

PS3 FTW All DAY but we got shafted this time guys. SEGA is taking it back to 2007. If I didnt own PS360 theres no way in hell that I'd buy this for my PS3.

[Vortex3D]

Since PS3 version of most multi platforms games are often either lower quality graphics, longer load time, huge game install to hard drive, buggier or something lesser than X360 version, Sony needs to do some kind of quality control enforcement like Nintendo used to do before Wii came out.

It looks like Sony is like Nintendo now with Wii allowing 3rd party game publishers to release the games in whatever quality they want just to sell.

Being an owner of both PS3 and X360, I would buy the X360 version if the PS3 version has lower quality. I want to enjoy the best version of the game.

[DLA2K9]

i agree with you 100%, finally someone with some sense on this fanboy site..."PS3, it only patches everything" its not fanboyism to speak the truth

[slave2Dcontroller]

Sony cant force these devs to do that though. Hell, SEGA kinda did Sony a solid despite the tacky Bayonetta port. This coudve easily been a sweet ass 360 exclusive. I own a PS3, Wii, and 360 but my Tre is my preferred console even for multi plats. I'm a realist so I know that multi plats generally perform a touch better on the 360.

I dont mind the softer color palette or the 1 or 2 seconds longer load times. Theres no way I can notice a difference unless I do a side by side which will never happen. I havent played a multi plat game that I regret buying for my PS3 over my 360. Devs have really gotten good at MP coding. Not in this case though. I hear good things about VC so I'm sure SEGA can code for the tre. Just not sure why they struggle so hard with Multis. No need to wonder here though. Simply put, this game wasnt supposed to be on the PS3

[lord_monkey]

and let me tell you frame rate is not something you will notice or have in issue with. at least from my playthrought.
i didnt play it on the 360 and I'm not planing to, I will get the game because i played the game enjoyed it and had no problems.more improvements are welcome but at its current state its great people still forget that it got 38/40 and back that score because its a great game.

any one who likes DMC or Ninja Gaiden will love this its much better then both games.

can't wait

[slave2Dcontroller]

I'm sorry guy. I noticed the frame rate issues as soon as I started running. Thats not all I noticed either. The textures in this game are some of the worst I have ever seen on the PS3. Its a good thing you didnt play the 360 version. You'd be pretty pissed. I was.

Maybe SEGA will fix more than the load times before its US launch. But buying a game in this state of f'd uppedness only encourages lazy, half assed game development for PS3 multiplats. If we keep buyin this crap, things will never change and PS3 owners will continue to get the multi plat shaft.

[OmegaSlayer]

Platinum have failed to think the game as a 360 exclusive.
This kind of games have always sold better on PS3 even when PS3 had an istall base that was half the 360 one (DMC4), and you can see on youtube the different ability of PS3>360 players.

Anyway, bad ports in 2010 lead only to bad reputation.
The email is still not proven to be true, by the way, but I hope all this ruckus on the net will wake Sega up.

[DarkSniper]

As a proud owner of this extravagant title himself, Dark Sniper can definitely tell you that Bayonetta in it's current form is fully playable and enjoyable. Many of you show extreme worry about the performance on Sony's monster machine and Dark Sniper can say with extreme confidence that none of you Sony Snipers have anything to worry about.

As far as the reasoning behind developing on such an inferior console first, the game started production in 2007. Which was during a time period when the world was in a delusional state of mind in thinking that something as terrible as Xbox 360 was the console of choice. Sega should have been coznigant of the future, but they weren't.

Dark Sniper has a strong hunch that Bayonetta 2 will be developed exclusively for PlayStation®3. Primarily because Microsoft's run of the mill machine has expired it's course and will no longer be on retail shelves.

$niper

[CernaML]

CernaML is wondering why DarkSniper is talking in third person.

[FinalomegaS]

I have the early demo and I didn't notice any load time issues. well maybe when the game first boots up it took a while but then it was almost no load screen.

Played the 360 version.

I didn't get a PS free code ( shouldn't they have sent out both?)

[divideby0]

shouldnt that be part of the job to make a game which runs good...
how are they going the extra mile....?
If I told my boss stuff like this, I would be unemployed

[deno]

Sega has always cared for the fans since day one of the genesis. Platinum should have fixed all bugs not sega.

[Alan Wake]

so sad crapstation 3

[Becko]

yeah ok, but what about the blurry image Sega... how are you going to fix that ?

[Katana Yamato]

I'm a member in the Platinum Games forum. And the person got another email from a Sega Customer Service Representative.

They said that they can only probably fix the Loading and Frame Rate issues. Fixing the Screen Tearing, Texture quality and Dull Color Palette would require new coding for the PS3. So everyone should pretty much forget that. You don't honestly expect the PS3 version to be on par with the Xbox 360 version...the game isn't that far away from release so there isn't enough time to fix these problems i believe.

And for the people who imported the Japanese PS3 version, Sega will probably have to make a downloadable Patch for them, i don't know.

[Enigma_2099]

... that this confirmation had to come from SEGA as opposed to Platinum Games...

... it's like they don't really care.

Oh wait... if they did, they would have done the PS3 port THEMSELVES!!!!