Sony Has Microsoft Sweating

Ironstarmovement: "Microsoft has lived under a countless amount of praise by gaming journalist since the release of the Xbox 360. When the Playstation 3 released, 360 was claimed to be the superior console with the PS3 having "no good games". The times have changed and Microsoft is under stiff competition."

[LordMarius]

Repent bots your era has ended, it was short lived and pathetic but you can still be on the winning side

[Dutch Boogie]

lol their like an average fcku. Their victory felt good but was short lived.

Carve this into your brains bots. Sony will forever remain king. Imitators will forever see defeat.

[4point7BillionLoss]

like sony imitating xbox live (still 18 months behind)
adding facebook integration
demoing a hands free controll system
etc etc

Play behind !!!!

[PirateThom]

Facebook? You mean, like the PS3 has had since launch?
Hands free controls? Like the PS2 has had for about 8 years?

[ChrisW]

God, I love the smell of canon fodder in the morning!

[4point7BillionLoss]

yes yes , we all know you could access facebook through the compeltely rubbish internet browser. But the point is WHY is sony all of a sudden integrating facebook within the XMB?

Because, Sony, have finally seen the light, after realising that if it's integrated it's much MORE usefull to the community. Also, Sony know just how few people both to use the web browser for aynthing like facebook etc ... Just like Microsoft knows it's crap to brose the net with a games controller ... they didn't even bother trying to put Internet Explorer on the xbox because NO ONE WOULD USE IT !!!!!

Your failure to notice this indicates just how stupid you are.

Hands free controller. Yes again, Sony had something that you could wave your hands at. Eye toy was and is a cheap gimmick. It's performed incredibly badly. We all know this. It's junk. So again WHY are Sony currently in the process of Demoing a NEW hands free controller that is NOT eye toy? Please explain? It has EVERYTHING to do with Sony again realising that microsoft's project NATAL is generating far more interest globally than sony's pink dildo wii controller imitation.

It really funny seeing you try to counter this with puny "bu bu bu bu sony did it first comments" but really tom ... you fail ... you fail 4.7 nillion times more than anyone else on "opinions for PS3 bloggers"

Play Behind !!!!

[talltony]

"But the point is WHY is sony all of a sudden integrating facebook within the XMB?"

Because it only does everything? Seriously I dnt know how you guys can still back the xbox. I have it and it has just been collecting dust because of the ps3. I could easily live without it cause the only game i want on it is splinter cell conviction but even that might go to ps3. I got MW2 on ps3 and I can join friends in progress and invite them for FREE! The Ps3 is making the 360 obsolete. I think the xbox 360 reign is over. It was better than ps3 before it caught its stride with AAA games but now come next year I cant imagine how the ps3 will have any competition. just my 2 cents.

[infekt]

See those numerous disagrees under your comments? It means nearly everyone thinks your comments are d1ck.

[zag]

The web browser on the PS3 is the same one used on Nokia mobile phones.

As for the integration you'll most likely find it's just a web page link rather than a whole program just for facebook.

The interesting thing is though the PS3 can use any of the cloud social sites twitter, myspace etc, where as the 360 can't do this.

MS have only added it because the PS3 can use all of them and want to make the 360 look like it can do the same stuff when really it can't as it doesn't have any program that will allow it to do so.

mmm, So EyeToy is crap, yet the camera on the 360 is completely ignored and MS have to release a whole new SKU just so they can do a hands free controller, um... yeah... great??

It'll be a gimmick, it won't be something you'd really use for a controller but to show off to people and never use again because it'll end up being such a poor controller.

the Wii controllers are pretty poor try playing golf and then trying to do a tiny put with it it can't pick up the slight movement so you end up hitting it too hard as you get fed up with it's poor wii-motes.

These types of controllers look good at first yet when you really use them, they end up being a waste of time.

[4point7BillionLoss]

If it were JUST a link t oa web browser interface, WHY, again WHY is sony ALSO integrating it with the XMB?

You FAIL to realise that the INTEGRATION part of the face book INTEGRATION means that your online account, be it xbox live or PSN is going to be ... I.N.T.G.R.A.T.E.D. with your facebook and twitter account. meaning you don't have to go off and fiddle with some crap online browser and has no understanding of what you may or may not have just done in the gaming world. The WHOLE point it online community. Not simply being able to access these applications. On their own they mean nothing. However, once integrated they add more to the community experience.

If you still don't understand the difference please seek help.

As for the eye toy NATAL debate. Ask yourself ... WHY has the wii done so well compared to the xbox and PS3 - I personally think it's rubbish ... I got one as a wedding present ... but I only use it, like you said as a gimmick, to play tennis or bowling when we have mates over. I think it goes without saying ... I am not the target audience for the Wii. Agree?

So, what is the target audience? Younger kids. Kids who like waving their arms about and who don't really care if it's precisly accureate enough to perform Call of Duty Sniping. It's an ausience that neither the Xbox nor the PS3 has appealed to yet. And it's BIG. As the wii has shown it's probably one of the biggest markets out there. The eye toy missed a huge opportunity because it PROBABLY could have put the PS3 in contention with the wii by appealing to this audience ... but it didn't. It just doesn't compete.

However NATAL's whole purpose is to appeal to young gamers. This is as far as Xbox 360 and PS3 goes, an untapped market. By the end of 2010, most kids who already have a wii will be excited by the next big thing. The PS3's wand being so similar to the wii will almost certaily not be as exciting to them as NATAL. IF the developers can achieve the kind of games demo'd by the NATAL video I think there will be a HUGE demand by young gamers to want an xbox. And I agree with your point about these controller system beign a gimmick and a waste of time ... BUT I am not their target audience? I couldn't givbe two hoots about NATAL ... but my kids will think it's the next best thing ... !!!

And if you disagree, please explain again, why is Sony now in the process of demoing and NEW hands free controller system that is NOT eye toy?

[Sarcasm]

"5. Lower the price of the arcade SKU for 360 and lower accessory price"

I agree with lowering the accessory pricing cause I want a bigger HDD also. But lowering the price of the hardware AGAIN is getting a bit too much. If they lower it any more, it'll be the same price as a DS lol

[WildArmed]

no. 2 and no. 5 make perfect sense to me.
2. Get more ambitious (Give gamers a great game that isn’t a shooter)
5. Lower the price of the arcade SKU for 360 and lower accessory price

Loved L4D, and Gears etc etc.
but something else would be nice. They are taking steps towards that already with Natal, and am waitin to see how that turns out

[Zedux]

Sony has both MS and VGChartz sweating lol! The first has to lie and second has to spread the lie lol!!!

[YungXclusive2K9]

lol @ 1 & 1.2

[WildArmed]

you can add Valve to that list

[Syronicus]

Will that help erase the years of poor hardware and the reputation that MS has for a defunct console? I don't think so. Everybody knows about the RROD and so many folks will spend the extra bucks to get a reliable console since they do not want to keep having to exchange or have their console repaired. MS shot themselves in the foot with the RROD and the sales these days are showing it.

[deadpoole]

one and only one complain ... why the hell would u increase Xbox 360 Arcade price.

[skip2mylou]

it says lower prices of the arcade sku and the accessory

[Game13a13y]

6. redesign the controller (that d-pad and just ain't working for me)
7. releasing a 360 slim (make it more reliable, less noisy, and a built in wi-fi)
8. allow XBL silver members to play games online (i don't need those extra bell and whistles, they are only getting in the way)

.... or just sweep the 360 under the rug and release a better console.

[Shadow Flare]

"sweating like a hooker in church"

[Raz]

This is why you should never jump the gun just to get a head start on your competition. Things get rushed, problems arise, and you'll be taking two steps back for every step forward. You'll be further ahead while your opponent is still warming up; but you'll also burn out a lot faster.

Then, when you're out of breath and struggling to keep going, the guys with the 10-year plan will catch up and politely steamroll your butt into the dirt.

^_^

[Genesis5]

Sweating? I'll think they'll be needing clean underwear soon.

[Xgamerzus]

sweat sweat sweat, M$ till to fade away!! Cheap BUdget PC clone!
Expensive peripherals and all the failures you can imagine in OS, portable, and now gaming,
Why do we even accept M$ in gaming again???

[D4RkNIKON]

"Sweating like a hooker in church" NICE! lol

[commodore64]

hmmmm

if truth be told, the only people who should be sweating are Sony shareholders, given the massive losses posted for ps3 until now.

What's the total loss on ps3 so far? .. $4.7 billion?

I very much doubt that Sony shareholders would be celebrating to the same extent as the n4g fanboys above!
;)

[GarandShooter]

"you took a hooker to church?"

[YungXclusive2K9]

made my day i wanna go play UC2 for my 3rd playthrough

[JBaby343]

"Why not?"

[Soldierone]

I cant stop laughing at the Uncharted quotes, its perfect! LMAO

[6point8billionloss]

Speaking of 4.7 billion losses, have you seen MS's losses in the Xbox division? 6.8 billion.

[ico92]

"you brought a hooker to church?"

i thought i was the only person that rememberd that line

[Sitdown]

1.)How can you jump the gun when there is not a national release a console day. You release when you feel like you are ready to release..not wait until you feel like everybody else is ready to release. As a matter of fact, Sony "talked" of releasing around the same time, but had delays. 2.)There is no proof that by waiting Microsoft would have released a better console. 3.)You don't burn out a lot faster because you jump the gun to get a head start, you burn out by not pacing yourself. But even if you do burn out...nobody cares as long as you reach the finish line first...even though I admit there really isn't a "finish line" here.

[FACTUAL evidence]

IMPOSSIBLE! B..bu..but they have halo!

[Megatron08]

another ps3 fangirl blog trying to pass as "news"

Fact is sony is losing money on the ps3

Fact MS is making money on the 360

so who is sweating who ?

[Anon1974]

Kaz confirmed the PS3 has been profitable as a platform since the last fiscal year. Microsoft has never said, at least to my knowledge, that the 360 is profitable. Recently, analysts have even suggested that the 360 hardware is even being sold at a loss again at current price points, and without knowing how overall software and accessory sales are going we have no idea if the 360 is profitable.

If you can find a recent link to Microsoft stating that the 360 is profitable, I'd love to see it. We know Microsoft Entertainment's overall profits are up and down but we don't know exactly where the 360 stands in all of that.

I'd love to see where your "facts" are coming from.

[bjornbear]

Thats why they sweating...

[Saaking]

the end has come for MS. Not even 10 Halos in one year can save them.

[DaTruth]

Good question! I've never once seen MS release a statement that the 360 is profitable, and since it is all wrapped up in MSFT, they don't have to!

Since their entire business model is trying to look better than Sony, I'm sure they would have if they could have!

[rockleex]

Sony was smart and realized they needed more time to make sure the PS3 actually works under industry standards, unlike Microsoft.

When your product barely even works, you know it was a rushed job. That also applies to anything else in life.

[spacetattoo]

Actually It was before the price break that ps3 was making money.

So they are losing money but making strides in selling more software.

[Anon1974]

Where did Sony say that?

Because, Kaz said in August that the PS3 Slim would be sold at a loss, but that overall it was still profitable.

"Responding to the issue of selling the redesigned PS3 at a loss, Hirai explained, “I don’t actually know that that’s the true nature of the business that we’re all in, whether it’s PlayStation, Xbox or the Wii. I think the better indicator is to look at the business as a whole platform, to ask: are you profitable in terms of the hardware, software and peripherals. And the answer to that question is yes on a gross profit level since the last fiscal year.”

So, with the price cut, Kaz says the PS3 makes money. Do you have some source that proves otherwise? It doesn't matter if the hardware loses money, so long as they make it up with software, PSN, accessories. That's something Microsoft has never confirmed. Analysts think the 360 is still sold at a loss, and MS has never to my knowledge stated that they make up for it elsewhere. And given MS's knack for spouting off in this department - don't you think if the 360 was profitable, that would be something they'd be crowing about?

[Immortal Kaim]

It took 1min for me to check if Microsoft had made profit on the Entertainment and Devices devision, so I assume you already knew the answer. Don't you guys get sick of bloody debating the same sh*t day in, day out.
http://www.dailytech.com/Xb...

[edgeofblade]

Yay, early morning fanboy swatting!

Anyone notice how PS3 Slim is "sold at a lost but still profitable", but no one wants to admit that's the way 360 works, too? It's funny how people like to assume that Microsoft is filled with idiots and the 360 "barely works"... and the PS3 can do no wrong. Barely works? That's quite a bit of spin.

[Anon1974]

It doesn't. We can't see the breakdown within the Entertainment division to see how much of that profit is 360, how much is Office for Mac, how much is portable device windows, etc.

Simply because the Entertainment division has eeked out small profits the last two fiscal years doesn't prove the 360 itself is profitable. In fact, when 360 sales hit their highest in the six months right after their price cut last year, revenue was slightly up from the 6 months in the year prior but profit plummeted to the tune of almost half a billion dollars. With the increased 360 sales that is a strong indication that the 360 is NOT profitable, which many financial analysts picked up on as well. Microsoft has never verified to my knowledge that the 360 makes them any money.

Like I said, if there's a link out there that proves somehow the 360 is profitable, I'd love to see it.

[LOLPSN]

Its a Shame that PS3 still the B!tch of the industry (Last Place)

So SAD

[CernaML]

The PS3 is my bottom b!tch! Nuthin' wrong with dat!

[Bob Dole]

lol

[Abash]

Good to see Sony doing well again

[hay]

PS3 is third fastest selling console to date. You want to say it was doing bad?

[3XP]

Wow yet another fanboy medication article. From all of the oh look at Microsoft sweating articles, I think the sony fanboys that keep writing and approving this dumb blog articles are the ones that obviously need convincing.

The really funny thing is that the wii, is the one at the top of the pile, yet to give themselves some hope, they try to disgard the wii as being "not nextgen".

There was also a guy saying that he was going to play UC2 for his third play through. Now, why would you be playing that for the 3rd time, if you have soooooooo many other games to play?

Just wondering.

[Pumbli]

3XP - I see your point, all this "PS3 is the best!" stuff is getting old, I come here to read news and maybe the occasional article on someone's opinion (if it's not too extreme) but not to read some blog written by a troll attempting to ignite flame wars.

As for the guy who's on his 3rd playthrough of U2, kudos to him, I'm on my 4th :P It's just that great, I have a lot of other games to play, but U2 always drags me back in the end.

[rockleex]

When their were PS3 doomed articles every day on N4G.

Sometimes 5 in one day.

I guess no one is allowed to criticize Microsoft?

I thought this was supposed to be N4Sony?

Wait, why are you guys being such crybabies anyway? Wah wah wah.

[edgeofblade]

Funny how the only site that "publishes" trash like this in my reader is N4G. Look at the horrible grammar, spelling, and sentence structure.

But the PS3 fans take it as a pit-stained sweating gospel...

[Serial_EDX]

Sad part is. I'm actually back to playing my ps2 games over both the 360 and ps3.

[lh_swe]

With ALL these games this holiday?

[WildArmed]

well considering Ps2 has better games + bigger library then both of em. You pretty much have the best library ever. Not to mention cheap games :)
HD has spoiled me. I'm glad someone still enjoys AAA games on last-gen consoles

[lh_swe]

Uncharted 2, Ratchet, Demon Souls, Forza 3, MW2, Dragon Age etc all stting on my nob right now I am surprised that your not overwhelmed with games.

[Sarcasm]

The only PS2esque game I'll be playing will be GoW Collection. Otherwise, I'm quite happy with the 360/PS3 offerings.

[SaiyanFury]

I have to say Sony has the single strongest software library out this year. Especially with the multitude of titles most recently in North America. I won't cite them, it's already been done by others here. Demon's Souls, alone, is a reason to own a PS3 if you're an RPGamer. The most hardcore and rewarding RPG to come out in quite some time. With the exception of PS2 backwards compatibility (that is always being rumoured to come with software emulation) Sony has improved on every version of the PS3. The new slim model does pretty much everything every HD home theatre enthusiast could want. Now it's smaller, cheaper, and more accessible than previous models. Getting a complete HD device has never been cheaper. One of the big draws for us tech savvy people is the built in wireless. No extra 100 dollar cost as with the 360 if you choose it's wireless adapter. Painless media streaming works with about any media serving program like TVersity. The 360, no doubt, has some great games coming, but that's exactly it; they're COMING. The PS3 has a plethora of great games out NOW. If you get a system just for gaming, the PS3 really is the best option for sheer diversity.

On the whole social networking thing; really, who cares? I came to the PS brand for it's excellence in gaming. Sure the PS3 does just about everything, that doesn't mean I want to talk to everybody about it. Maybe it's my misanthropic nature, but I don't feel compelled to "network" with other people about my relatively mediocre lifestyle. I don't really give a crap about other peoples' gaming or trophies and I assume they don't give a flip about mine.

As for how Xbox Live is so much better than the PSN, the only REAL advantage is the support of cross game chat. OK, AND? Is that the best argument in favour of Xbox Live? The PSN has much of the same functionality as Xbox Live, and above all, everything is FREE. No fee per year to access the same features as our Xbox 360 components.

This is a personal take of course, I ultimately leave it up to you, the gamers. Disagree if you must, but that doesn't invalidate my points. :)

[edgeofblade]

Saiyan... 360 has had great games for a long time and it has great games coming. So has PS3. So has the third party.

It's just everyone is so caught up in whats better than what, they miss a whole sector of the released games, if only to prop up their needlessly biased opinions. It's such a waste of our time. But the fanboys insist on picking out scapegoats... if only to ridicule.

Honestly, if I had to say if "someone" were dominating my gametime, it would be the third party. If that's the case, it REALLY doesn't matter what platform you use unless you have a preference for controls, like I do for 360.

[Feral Gamer]

I don't think MS is sweating. They're raking in all kinds of money from Live and 360 sales. Sure the PS3 may be selling more now, however MS has outsold the original 360 and Live is a cash cow.

[WildArmed]

they have definitely achieved their intial goal of beating the xbox in quality and sales. So I bet they are very happy.. no matter how this gen turns out.

[YungXclusive2K9]

i disagree microsoft seemed pretty frantic to cut the price after they heard about the 3 Benjamins PS3 was dropping too

[Odion]

except that they really didn't cut the price, they just got rid of one SKU, nothing dropped below 300 or 199

[YungXclusive2K9]

@4.3 your right but they were quick to respond lol

[callahan09]

@ Odion, technically you're right, which is why the PS3 has been beating the 360. But the only reason the 360 hasn't been getting absolutely slaughtered is because of the responses in general. If they hadn't taken their 300 dollar machine from a 20 gb hard drive up to a 120 gig HD and added in 2 free games (Lego Batman & Pure), then their machine really would not have looked like a good value next to the PS3 slim. They also had a 50 dollar rebate program for a while in October, and a 100 dollar promotion in November. They've definitely been very busy with restructuring their SKUs and offering all kinds of price promotions, etc., to keep the thing looking like a good value.

[oldsnayke]

I agree, in terms of online play... Xbox takes the cakes. But in terms of features and hardware specs, the PS3 shoots the 360 out of the sky.

[PopEmUp]

"beating the xbox in quality" no i disagree with you, the 360 is not a better quality product than the original xbox, but here a reminder RROD

[The Emperor]

I'm sure the PS3 is starting to gain some profit for Sony, but comon guys. We SHOULD all know that the 360 makes more money for MS than Sony. RROD doesn't even equal what Sony has lost from the first 2-3 years of the PS3. It's common sense. After Jan 2009 though I can admit the PS3 has been picking up the pace, it's just the high production cost of the PS3 caused for a bunch of terrible set backs for them financially.

[DaTruth]

Not sure what you're talking about; MS has been losing money all over the place since entering the gaming business. At least Sony has a few profitable game consoles under their belt!

MS losses on XBOX division $6.8 billion

[Persistantthug]

Is that all those broken XBOX's cost A HEAPING TON of money.

They've blown through that 1 BILLION DOLLARS (that they supposedly put aside) LOOOONG ago. I think they've nearly hit 2 billion, if they haven't hit it already. And the worst part is, They aren't even nearly done, those broken XBOX's seem to have no end in sight.

Much of that money that they've made on XBOX LIVE has been eaten up by egregious failure rate costs.

[LOLPSN]

It's so hard for Ps3 to get out from the Last Place

They could do it but MS is going for the casuals with natal next year

It's hard to counter that

[PirateThom]

Sadly, it doesn't help gamers. Going for the casuals may expand your install base, but they're doing it at the expense of real games.

Edit:

And while you people are disagreeing:
Rare is the studio basically carrying Natal, Kameo 2 and Perfect Dark sequels ring any bells? No, as they have been canned.

[RememberThe357]

The competition between MS and Sony has lead to a better experience for gamers on both platforms.

[lh_swe]

All I can say is don't hold your hopes high for peripherals they are just a fad that eventually fade away.

[Isaac]

This new account "LOLPSN" is the same guy "OWNED" that hasn't been seen in a few days. However, if you checked the history on both, you'd see they post the same garbage, Verbatim. Basically, they are the same duplicate account. I am sure you guys are smart enough to figure it out.

Then again... *sigh*

[ultimolu]

Keep it up, just keep it up. We'll see at the end of the year who stays in last place.

[commodore64]

@ ultimolu

wtf?
at the end of this year?

are you serious?
If you check the official figures on both Sony's and MS's investor websites, you will find the 360 still ahead by 6.6 million.
These are the official figures, not VGC, not fanboy estimates.

There is no way the ps3 will catch the 360 this year.
Probably not next year either.

Come on, think!

[ultimolu]

Commodore, kindly mind your business. I wasn't talking to you. Stop spreading your FUD already. People are sick of hearing it.

[lh_swe]

I'm pretty sure yearly sales were the focus.

[DaTruth]

Getting a quick lead by releasing first, then losing ground to your competition every single year. That's something to be proud of!/sarc

[commodore64]

@ the guy above me

NO, dude, the focus was Ultimolu's quote:
"We'll see at the end of the year who stays in last place"

That's what she said, no argument there, right?
Thus, my reply was spot on, but thanks for your input, anyway...

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@ Ultimolu

It's not FUD, Ultimolu.
I never spread FUD.

In fact, I correct other people when they try to Spread FUD.
In fact, I am right with those figures
Check the financial reports, if you don't believe me.
http://www.microsoft.com/ms...
http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...
The facts are all in there, Ultimolu.

the 360 is at 33.6 million sold. officially.
the ps3 is at 27 million sold. officially.

Please don't pretend that you don't know I am right!
Please don't delude yourself into thinking the ps3 will catch up this year... or next year!

Let's stick to the facts, huh?

;)

[Rocco Siffredi]

yep, considering that the 360 is the more expensive console and the PS3 is beating the 360 by only 70k per month. it would take sony 5 years to catch up with 360 sales, lol.

Most ppl buy an elite not the arcade.. i mean there are 20 Million GOLD members.. you think that these ppl buy an arcade ??

Wireless lan adapter + elite + GOLD = 420 USD. If MS would lower the price like walmart did now.. you would see sales for the USA like the last week.. DOUBLE ps3 sales. SOny would stay forever in last place.

[fucadastates]

the 70k beating, is in the us only. it beats the box waaaaay bigger in eu and japan. stop thinking that the us is all that matters. learn the capitol of denmark. hint, its NOT ikea :D

[Bob Dole]

It's Copenhagen!!! Maybee...

[infekt]

Ooo.. xb!tch slapped!

[bunbun777]

if you could only get one console from your mommie and now have that gnawing feeling you may be missing something more.

you are a bot, you have been programmed by the MS handlers. The only therapy is hours of Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.

[Alan Wake]

hehehehehehehehehehehehe flop game

most ugly game ever

[GamerPS360]

As a gamer, you should not disrespect game like Demon's souls.

[Obama]

demon's souls > Fable 2.

[bigrudowsky]

Long live competition better for all of us but bad for our wallets lol

[saimcheeda]

would have made more profit if they didnt cut the price just for market share, i think the recent price drop was unneeded

[PopEmUp]

but they are heading for a decline in sale. but to avoid that, they have no other choice but to lower the price since this is their only biggest advantage over their competitors

[OmarJA]

No games + Laggy P2P online servers + no real benefit from Live subscription + Immature kids + 54% failure rates.....

M$ got the rights to be sweating.

[silverchode]

plus the profit they make

[LTC]

Demon Souls got a much higher rating than your precious crap ODST on Meta. Heck even Ratchet and Clank scored higher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Why o why]

when the price becomes the same whats left for MS....exclusives....Questionab le especially after looking at 09's lineup with forza 3 the only real full title of quality in my eyes. I know there was a game called ninja blade but ill leave that alone and odst was intended to be an expansion so they dressed it up and gave halo 3 owners the same maps they already paid for...Anybody who feels odst wasnt an expansion is a little naive. There was also another title with halo in its name and that was the halo wars and to be fair it was a little different even though it was a simplified rts. Other than those the 360's whole year was reliant on multiplatform titles but next year looks a lot better than this year to be fair as it couldnt get any worse.

[Alan Wake]

Not better thin Mass effect & fable 2

Fable 2 best action rpg ever

go saw how many awards winning

check

http://www.lionhead.com/Fab...

[GamerPS360]

did you play any of those or you just check meta ? Because, I played Fable 1, mass effect 1 and Demon's souls.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

no games besides gow3 & gt....so what about..

FFVS
M.A.G
HEAVY RAIN
AGENT
RESISTANCE 3
KZ3(POSSIBLE)
MLB10 (BEST BASEBALL GAME OUT)

NEXT TIME DO SOME RESEARCH BEFOR YOU OPEN THAT FANGIRL MOUTH...NOW YOU SWEATING LIKE MASTER CHEIF UP THEIR HUH LOL

[TheTeam06]

I hope you know your just proving what the title is saying. Posting so many times in one article sounds like your sweating to me.

[ultimolu]

Alan Waiting, still waiting for your game to come out? >:P

[Man_of_the_year]

Still waiting for GT5 >:P

[ultimolu]

The wait is well worth it, I dare say. >:P

It's gonna be a damn good racing game.

[Man_of_the_year]

As Alan Wake will be a damn good Mystery/Thriller game. Well worth the wait. >:P

[TheTeam06]

I think they'll both be worth the wait. However, I KNOW one is going to be AAA, and the other I'm not sure. I'll still have to try it, though. I felt the same nervousness about Uncharted: DF and look how awesome that series turned out to be. One of my favorites EVER! Maybe I just like Naughty Dog...

[Why o why]

i say that because i feel MS would just give up again if they released a console after sony did like the gen before this whereas sony'll keep pluggin away whenever their console is released as they've proved. MS has kinda kept sony on their toes so MS being here has benefited us all in the grand scheme of things but alas... the tables have turned charlie murphy. Sony is doing sony full stop

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Sony has been sweating for 3 years before the Slim. Many downgrades on the ps3 to lower the cost. The PS3 already has had more price cuts than the 360 has. How much money has the ps3 lost?? With the Slim being more of a loss I would think that Sony would be doing the sweating. The 360 is a successful machine and making serious profits. Microsoft are the only ones that are seeing profits in their gaming division.

[Why o why]

sony have been sweating by being themselves..They have been playing out their own plan....you think the glut of quality exclusives came from thin air or was some act of god...No the games were here because sony PUT the infrastructure and technology in place. For me its all about the games and Sony are doing sony you keep talking about sweating based on 'teh salzzzz' when what gamers want is teh gamez. Year on year sony have increased their exclusives whilst MS has lost exclusives and by that i mean games like star ocean and every other jrpg baring a couple and bioshocks NOT games like devil may cry and GTA which were never released this gen as 'only on playstation' games. Im only naming those but we know theres more.

So what are you halo.....a gamer or a wannabe shareholder ??

[KiRBY3000]

why do you care about the money sony has lost? in the long run, they will make tons of money. dont worry. thats what they did 2 generations ago with the PS1, they did it again last gen with the PS2. and that's what they're going to do again with the PS3.

microsoft IS sweating, and so are you.

god, the 360 is almost competing with the PS2 in japan and still seliing worldwide! but where is the 1st xbox? right, its DEAD.

[PirateThom]

Here's the big thing, Microsoft's gaming division is in a HUGE hole because of the XBox and 360. They're making profit on a yearly basis but that division will never be profitable unless something drastic changes. They're only now making minor profit per year, but not for the red they already face over $6,500,000,000 loss in total.

http://neogaf.net/forum/sho...

Do you really want to talk about "loss"? "Serious profits" is Microsoft spin when facing the reality and that reality of the respective companies and their gaming divisions.

[D4RkNIKON]

Hahaha, Halo is hurt and it shows.

"So what are you halo.....a gamer or a wannabe shareholder ??"
Just in case you didn't read it in Why o why's comment ;)

[JBaby343]

You made halopro look like the picture from this article.

[RedDragan]

Because the always happens when new technology gets mass produced. BD Player and Cell Processor ring a bell? Did anyone ever explain to you what happens to prices of mass produced products that contain new technology?

Why do I always have to come on here and own you?! It is getting a bit repetitive and boring now, I suggest you stay away from this site.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Sorry i mean - 'Microsoft are Sweating like a Gabe Newell' ;-D

DIE M$ DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! ;)

[GamerPS360]

At this point, I don't really care who is sweating. I got my money worth play time from both consoles. I am not worry about Sony or MS's investment. I was worried about my investment. If one fails (highly unlikely), I will simply move to another one.

One may have few more better exclusives than other but I think, both systems have enough games to justify their console price.

[Isaac]

Xtards are sweating like down syndromes studying algebra...

Then again, that was insulting to people with down syndrome.

[miggza]

They're both sweating. It's just that Microsoft is sweating more than Sony.

My thought on his list:

1. okay. agree.
2. also agree.
3. Natal is a great piece of technology. But i don't see hard core gamers standing up and pointing their hands like a gun or whatever on the screen. Though, for me, if they do it right, this would be bought by casual gamers and for the family.
4. Improve? make it free first. Right now PSN is getting what Live users are getting for experience. (services and reliability wise )
5. Lower the price. Okay to a point. Lowering prices is a temporary solution though. Accessories being lowered to a more reasonable price should be their first priority. A 500gb notebook hard drive costs as much as a 120gb xbox hard drive.

[Neo604]

MS too. Why would they pick this time to ban the mod xbox so people buy new one since they love xlive.
they gotta keep up with the salessssss.

[ChickeyCantor]

xbox3 coming?

[RedDragan]

Expect nothing less from Microsoft and all the 360 fanboys will still say how great it is that Microsoft shafted them yet again

[gameraxis]

In response to...

""Comment by Malik "Tha-Truth" Forte 3 hours ago
I think Microsoft is sweating... because they are tired of running laps around Sony in sales. Yes the PS3 is more innovative, but Microsoft knows how to market with flawless execution and thats why they will always be ahead of the PS3. The gap will close, but the 360 won this gen IMO. Sony is gaining steam a little too late. Unless this holiday season and early next year is big for Sony, it's over, PS3 is finishing last... ""

/quote

Can you believe this person? now what if microsoft doesn't release a new console and ps3 outsells MS's userbase even WITH the year and a half head start? This comment basically says, "MS 360 is my favorite console, and no matter how badly it sells in the future, it outsold sony for a while, so i'm going to declare it console winner, because even if sony does rightfully beat them in SAL3Z DA 360 sT1LL PWNZ!!!!

wow, i hate people who follow sales, no scratch that statement, i hate people who insist that sales provide a better console, and even when that doesn't go the way they want, they switch what they have been preaching since the ps3 launch...

[Why o why]

ive been watching the goalposts shift since the gen started.....the alleged superiority of xbl AND unit sales (at this point in time) is all they have left...Graphics, Games, Tech, Blu ray.......all in sony's favor. I could actually stomach a battle about games, their quality and their graphics as their ALL gaming related but 'teh salz' argument is a deflection from our hobby. Its a pity its some peoples be all and end all but thats the world we live in

[JBaby343]

No more "CELL isn't good for gaming, Blu-ray not needed, no games, don't need built-in wifi, only 256mb of RAM, XDR a waste, installs, weak RSX = weak graphics, etc." Now it's all about "teh salez" and "cross-game chat is worth $50/month". Sometimes I miss the good old days when 360 fanboys had something to argue with even though they were hollow arguments even at the time. Now sheer and utter fanboyism is all that's left for them. I do think Sony has been sweating some this gen but now the tides have turned and MS is definitely in the hotseat so to speak.

[morkendo]

maybe thats why they banned the modd 360 so they can keep up with SONY in sales lol

[Bumpmapping]

M$=American version of Sega....They never won a console race LOL!

They allways wanna get their console out to the market first.They have a flop addon Natal.Seriously it like watching Sega all over again but a scummy version!

[n to the b]

orig xbox not 1st to market.

[CrizzleC24]

If Xbox was like Sony

The following is strictly fantasy, I am aware that Halo 3 didnt come out in 08' PGR3 didnt come out in 07 either. I am using this to demonstrate a point so Fanboys on both sides can understand...

For those less educated,think of it as completely opposite, PS3 is Xbox, Xbox is PS3. Got it?

Here it goes...

Release one or two killer apps/timed exclusives a year
(this is to ease/appease the pain of little to no exclusives)

05-Call of Duty 2
05.5-Announce ODST, call footage pre-pre-pre alpha
06-Oblivion/Gears of War
07-Bioshock/PGR3
07.5-Tease 360 owners with PGR4:Prolouge
08-Halo 3

There! We've delayed these games long enough, even the fanboys are getting mad at us, lets get serious and release some games!!

-2009-
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
Gears of War 2
Mass Effect
Forza 3
Fable 2
Left 4 Dead

2009.5*Submitting N4G article titled "is the ps3 finally dead?"*
2009.51*horde of 360 fanboys attack any ps3 fanboys who disagree*
2009.51001*Ps3 user submits comment,"what if Sony ran Ps3 and Ms ran 360"
2009.51001000000001*Ps3 user gets flamed and millions of disagrees*
2009.51 *360 fanboys brag about "impressive lineup"*
(my attempt at a joke...haha?..ok nevermind)
2010
-PGR4
2011
-Halo:Reach

Rinse,Repeat

----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ---------
I would like to point out that I do in fact own a Ps3 and 360, though the Ps3(for me) is more of an exclusives console and 360(for me) is my everything console.

Sadly I dont use online for either system due to the poor connection at my apartment.

If you dont believe me
Quiz me on anything [non-boring cutscene] related to MGS4 or the early [non-annoying] levels of Killzone 2
----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ---------

So having said that, try not to label me as a "fanboy" unless its towards the wii, because honestly that controller is the only thing keeping it afloat. I could also be a fanboy towards Pc games made past 05, my computer can play HL2 and thats as far as it goes.

[Odreus]

I knew that I would buy the Ps3, with games or without games. I knew that there would be a next-gen Team ICO game or God of War 3 only exclusive to the ps3 system. How could I not buy the ps3, after playing games like God of War 2, Shadow of the Colossus and so on? Only Sony first party devs are able to create this fantastic games. Why buy a Xbox 360? I could have bought one, if there wouldnt be the RROD. Thats the biggest problem. Ive had never problems with sony systems. Dont know how old my ps2 is, 7/8 years ...

[Odreus]

but I prefer the ps3. Sales really dont matter at this moment. Wait, in the end sony will make more profit than many of us think. Like they did with the ps1 and the ps2. Play the games not the company ...

[horndog]

its been pounding sony's pooch all year long. Sony was getting such as ass rimming that they couldn't take it anymore so the poor things had to drop the price to give themselves a break from MS.

MS is letting poor sony catch it's breath before bending her over again. LOL. It's worked up a sweat allright.

[silverbeld]

When GOW 3 is out.

M$ can take they're bag and leave this market.

[Dorwrath]

Jeez.

One day this site will actually have an article about gaming rather than fanboy rants.

Rename the site to Fanboy Wars or something.

All this site is good for is entertainment and the lols. Gaming news and articles, well sadly it doesn't have any of substance. All fanboy drivel.

[TheTruth2009]

Let me help out the Sony Fans once again:
You will show the so-called "Heavy Hitters" in this thread that you won't buy in 2010. Just like you did in 2009.
You will call Sony names like "King", "Champ", and "Top Dog".
You will reference the PAST, and remain myopic like most Sony Fans are.
You will put down Microsoft and XBOX360, the same company and console that your corporate idol Sony and PS3 are constantly copying.
And you won't even complain about the fact that a website named "Iron Star Movement" was used for this article. LOL

I have to give it to the writers of these articles. They know exactly what buttons to push when it comes to the Sony Fanbase.
They know that you're still living in the 1990's, and you don't play your games that are released. So you have time to read. (Just look at how many people are on PSN right now.)
They know that the REAL websites are too busy with REAL gaming news and FACTS, and won't cater of this type of behavior.
They know that because of the slaughtering that Sony has gone through over the last few years, a little vitriol always will get strong reaction from the so-called "underdog".

You're all TOOLS. :-)

Here's an update for the Sony Fans:
MICROSOFT IS CONTROLLING THE HD MARKET AND IS METICULOUSLY REACTING TO SONY'S DESPERATION. NOT SWEATING. THEY EXPECTED THE DESPERATION.

So they only have to tweak what they were already doing and remain patient for 2010. Then, we'll see if Sony's PS3 Slim will still look pleasing to the common folk.

We already know that Sony Fans don't buy games, but we'll see if the common consumer will continue to buy the PS3 once Microsoft starts its campaign.

Now run along and join the parade of Sony followers that feel that they are making Microsoft "sweat".

The only sweating that Sony is doing is from trying to figure out how to make their so-called diehard fanbase buy its games with such a growing market share.

And how will they tell Naughty Dog that no one is buying or playing Uncharted 2 online. Now THAT'S sweating. :-)

[Raziel McGee]

that is precisely what i have noticed about ps3 fanboys that they are never playing their games just coming onto sites like this to bad mouth MS. Its just like the nintendo argument all over again " I loved them as a kids so they must do right now" Sheep man they are all sheep---scuse me I got gaming to do

[insomnium]

what was the grand total of software sold last NPD in USA? How much did the x360 win against ps3? By looking at your comments here it has to be a LOT!!!

Answer me this. Are you satisfied with the way Forza 3 performed?

[lh_swe]

Well 1.5 million in the time Uncharted 2 has been out are not bad figures, last I heard those are some phenomenal figures, not MW2 nor Halo figures but good nontheless.

Secondly I go where the games are and they are on the PS3, before it use to be the PS3 has no games, now when it clearly has a stellar library worthy only of praise the sales are the issue, and with games like MGS4 - 5mill, GT5 Prologue - 3.5 (a prologue for f***'s sake), Motorstorm - 3.5, Resitance - 3.6 etc, now it'll be the online which is marginally better due to cross game chat and... am I forgetting anything? Ohh thats rumoured to come to the PS3 as well.

You call the sony fanboy a hypocrite when you use the exact same tactic, I don't know about you but that sounds retarded if you ask me.

[6point8billionloss]

6.8 billion losses in the Xbox division. 'Nuff said.

[TheTruth2009]

Typical behavior.

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

You see, fanboys like Insomnium, lh_swe, and 6point8billionloss are always trying to redirect the issue at hand by either name calling or praising your chosen console instead. You see the truth staring you right in the face, but through all the pomp and circumstance of your post, you never reply to my post. It's a great magic trick.

While the REAL issue is going on, you say, "Hey! LOOK OVER HERE!"
That causes the weak minded sheep to see your post and go...

"YEAH! THAT'S RIGHT! YOU TELL HIM!" It's typical.

Go and buy something.

Insomnium, first of all, thanks for the PM. I'll get to you and the other 15 when I can. Thanks. Secondly, no. Forza 3 should have sold better. I guessed 3 million at least. But looks like I smell a bundle coming.
Now do you see how I answered your question?
Now respond to mine. :-)

And lh_swe, those games that you mentioned were HEAVILY bundled. For the record, developers make marginal dollars on bundled titles. I know that it looks good on VGCHARTZ, but they don't get the full value when doing so. Sorry.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

@ the truth
@ raziel

so what the fk are you guys doing here . Thats right , the same shlt everyone else is doing.

@raziel... your fkn going to game now ...go fking right ahead buddy nobody cares .there is plenty of time for that .I can't game for 8 hours a day like you .

[lh_swe]

Are you a little slow?

We are not diverting but talking about the bigger picture i.e. why not selling like Halo isn't the end of the world, why you spew "low" sales yet when we compare the sales of say Mass Effect, Fable 2, Forza 3 which all sold pretty much the same as any PS3 exclsuive you fail to recognise that.

I don't care if the games were bundle or not, so was Halo and Gears so I fail to see your point, people chose those consoles with the bundles because they were interested in the games otherwise they wouldn't have bought the bundle, so I do beleive those numbers can be taken into account.

I don't even get why I am arguing sales, sure the PS3 has a smaller attach rate but what does that have to do with the quality of the system, the sales are good enough to evoke a sequel and thats all that matters.

You say we deflect when all you seem to do is look at numbers, I can't play numbers thus I could give less of a s*** and I REHEHEALLY! don't see why you value that over the actual games.

[Obama]

I am starting to think this guy is bladestar. Who else would spend 20 minutes writing a wall of crap?

[ps360master]

oo brother

[bjornbear]

They need to loose weight.

[albert_275]

As a 360-only owner...
I seriously hope Microsoft's game division is losing money. I'd like to see them change up a bit and do things that benefit their gamers more... you know, maybe MORE GAMES, FREE xbox live...

Next year's E3 is going to be something to look forward to.

[SportsFan]

Yea, NOW....people want to try and get on the PS3 station. I remember when all of my friends made fun of me for not getting a XBOX 360, but I told everybody that Sony would not disappoint.

Sure the PC, 360, and Wii are all great, BUT....Blu Ray, Sony Store, FREE online, WiFi, and GREAT exclusives, exist on the PS3. I never cared what the "so-called" journalist and mis-informed gamers had to say...Sony made sure NOT to abandon the platform genre, something that only Nintendo can say they stayed true to. Anyhow...MS does have some good stuff out there, and I like NIntendo's Motion controller. (The Resident Evil and Call of Duty on the Wii looks like a lot of fun.) However, Sony didn't become the world wide leader in video gaming by a lucky game or two. These guys/girls maintained it's course..regardless of what the haters had to say about it. NOW, all of the "Pirates", parents, and gamers are getting the best Next Gen. system out there. (The other game systems are great too, just do not provide the same stuff as the PS3.)

[NMC2007]

Oh, sweet, a site I have never heard of before, keep those coming N4G.

[Bumpmapping]

Expect more Halo!

[mayberry]

I bought the 60g ps3 early knowing the games were coming! I have the money for two consoles just not the time! I turn on my ps3 daily, but I cant see owning a xbox too! I know whats coming.... not a "true" gamer".. etc... anyway I play ALOT! It's just that the ps3 satisfies my gaming jonz very well, thank you very much!

[Socomer 1979]

Kinda sad seeing xbox360 lose NPD month after month huh?
Didn't know you all would take it so personally, lol!

PS3 burning XBUTT Fanboys Daily!
I LOVE IT!

[silverchode]

plz dont mate

[KRonicBong]

When i first played it i had to down load a 3 hour installment. And when i got on, there wasn't too many people on. I thought it was supposed to be 256-players in a game. The servers were crap because they were on a stupid schedule, & the graphics even looked cheap.

--BUT--

After the first day, i noticed the new patch which took about another two hours which sucked. I also found out the servers where being launched 24/7. And i noticed a big difference in the graphics, not to mention the game isn't even ran on Blu-Ray yet like it will on release date in January.
All I have to say is I'd Pick MAG over any FPS shooter i have played. Soo many fun things to unlock, drive around in tanks, helicopters, HUGE AND VERY DETAILED environments. Call of duty might have slightly better graphics but MAG is an amazing game.

Playing MAG never had that feeling of playing with that many people. In this kind of battle!! CoD is like a board game war compared to the intensity in MAG.
I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT MAG.

[KRonicBong]

MAG will kill the Sh-tBox360 with out a doubt, Hey 360 fans if ur reading this. Buy a PS3 and get MAG. It would get my vote for the best-intense-war-FPS. This is only the BETA I'm playing. I can not wait for the release.

[bjornbear]

And I couldn't get into it

But i probably need to play it more, i always miss the beta hours =/ Only played it twice too...so dno, bt it kind of felt empty to me

But i can understand why people like it and i think its an awsum MP game =) I js didn't get into it. I'll give it another go though.

[Commander TK]

How sad. Poor Forza 3. It was the only good game Microsoft had this year. Couldn't handle the damage that KZ2, Infamous, Katamari Forever, NGS2, Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank and GOW Collection had done. Lol, next year... It's gonna be Sony's year again. It all starts with MAG, Heavy Rain, GOW3, GT5 then Quantum, then Agent, then LA Noire, then Resistance 3. Poor Alan Wake, the only good game M$ has coming next year. Gaylo: Reach? Wow, how original. Another Gaylo game. As for the rest, I will be getting on my PC.

[TheTruth2009]

"How sad. Poor Forza 3. It was the only good game Microsoft had this year. Couldn't handle the damage that KZ2, Infamous, Katamari Forever, NGS2, Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank and GOW Collection had done."

What damage are we talking about?
What damage did those "great" games do? Did I miss something?

Let me help you out:
Uncharted 2 - 1 million copies
Demon Souls - 300,000 copies
Ratchet & Clank - 200,000 copies
Ninja Gaiden Sigma - 300,000 copies
EyePet - 90,000 copies

Can you once again tell me about this damage that you speak of?

Because if you're telling me that these low-rated (other than Uncharted 2) and low-selling games are the basis of your "damage", remind me not to be in a foxhole with YOU.

Your arsenal is a little weak.

You see, you're a "typical" because you just spew out nonsensical garbage instead of knowing the facts.

"This game rocks!"
"Wait until the onslaught!"
"Next year is even better!"

It's weak. And more importantly, it's untrue.

Here's the facts:
Forza 3 is a racing game. The third installment of a great franchise on XBOX360. Microsoft wasn't expecting Halo-type numbers for the title, just respectable ones.

Now, let's discuss Uncharted 2.
Millions of dollars in advertising.
Heavy marketing push.
Great reviews from all media sources.

1 Million copies.

Go and buy something. NOW.

[insomnium]

Forza 3, one of the few if not the only exclusive highly rated game ALL year for the x360 gets sales like that and you think it's ok? That's weak even from you.

Like I said elsewhere I have right now 26 retail games for my ps3. I've also spent atleast 500 euros on psn including songs for singstar and psn games. I also have 29 movies on BD+planet earth collection. Just try and tell me to go out and buy some more stuff.

Games like Halo Wars, Fable 2, ODST and Forza 3 crushes your rantings about why games on ps3 don't sell. Face it. Only Geow and Halo (main iterations) sell well on your precious x360. Not Lips, not Scene it, not Banjo. Yet here you are ranting because of 2 franchises that sell well on x360. Do you even realize how much MGS4 has sold and GT5 will sell? How about Motorstorm or Resistance?

If you try to tell me Motorstorm and R1 sold well only because of the lack of other good games then I'll enlighten you that that is the exact same reason why Halo 3 and Geow get good sales. The difference between the fanbases is that we want other good games too and that's why they are almost all million sellers. You peple don't even want anything else on your platform. Look no further than Lips or Scene it or Banjo for proof.

I believe it's YOU who is the tool here judging by the amount of crap you bother to write here. I don't think the phraze "get a life" has ever suited better on anyone else but you.

[Godmars290]

MS's been sweating Sony since Xbox1.

[Soldierone]

When i think about getting a 360 its all good that its cheap and all...then i realize Live isnt free like PSN and im turned off right then and there. If MS wants to get buyers like me, they should do something about that rip off and entice me with free online somehow. Maybe delay the store and dont offer other features, and let online gaming be free. IDK but if they did that then id possibly get a 360...if i had money again.

[3rik]

....maybe to the point of a new system. It needs better graphics, greater reliability, cheaper online (maybe let silver members play online), and a much better way to store games. My suggestion for the last one, grow some balls and put in a blueray player that will also play the old games. Either that or complete digital download onto a biga$$ hard drive (only a matter of time before we have a terabyte hard drive). As for the Natal comment..............fvck Natal. It will just turn the 360 into another Wii. Great for sales probably, but bad for gamers IMO.

[bunbun777]

to start railing on God of War-- have any of you xbutts got to play the demo yet?

seriously- i played it-- it rocked-- gets my heart pumping every time i play it.

You sony haters have to give it up for Kratos-- its 2 brutal~

[AliTheBrit19]

Well..

You guys all call me an Xbot

So yes :)

First I played it at eurogamer expo, then a few days later I got an email from sony with the code to download it, tried it once more and haven't played it again..Honestly I don't see the big deal, sure it's not bad by any means, but doesn't deserve the hype it is getting..

[bunbun777]

Well Ali--

not sure about the hype-- well like a lot of games this one has history-- so that is where a lot of the hype may be coming from or at least supported by the past fans.

What made the demo so cool to me is the beautiful brutalism of Kratos, sure there are some that say this is old hat with fancy graphics, but the ease with which Kratos combos up the enemies, all the while taking time to slo-mo someone in half--stab them over and over, slam their heads into the wall--- its like a disgusting ballet.

Also, the lighting was awesome-- when you go through that cave-- I didnt even think to use Helios power the first time-- all you can see is flashes of fire with the blades, or that cool blue from the gauntlets.

Also-- the battle with the Chimera-- that was sweet! I suggest watching someone else play or going through one more time for that-- watching the snake attack almost seemingly independently of the rest of the monster, very nice looking-- i got my dodging abilities up back to par just because i wanted to keep looking at the freaky thing.

Fun is fun, and graphics when looking good are even better. This game is going to be most enjoyable-- if the pace of the game lives up to the demo, then i may need to get an oxygen tank.

[wpggamer]

I'm starting to get the feeling that stuff on the internet is written by little kids who didn't do very well in high school. Why do articles like this even get read? Now we are just encouraging him.

These kids can write some pretty crappy articles on numerous blogs, etc, which have little to no foundation or any fact checking done. I mean seriously, read that crap. It's garbage like so many articles on this site.

Give me some news, hopefully written by an adult, who did research and fact checking and doesn't just spew out a whole bunch of half-baked opinions.

[AliTheBrit19]

Somehow I don't think so...

I mean come on, here's Microsoft

A company that sells Millions on their first party games...within a week..

A company that watches the biggest game of the year, sell most on their console almost by double that of its competition

A company who's console is still approx 7 Million units ahead, and even if it's competition is selling well right now, it's still selling strong

What on earth do they have to sweat about?

Guy's Microsoft can push out Garbage like ODST, and sell millions, their laughing

[Saaking]

Other than Halo NOTHING MS has sells "millions in a few weeks" IF you disagree, please tell me one that does.

[NPDKing]

Gears of War 2 sold about 2 million copies in its first couple days.

[Death2494]

With all that said, Sony has the largest internal studio out of all the big 3. Nintendo is really making the money though because all of their top selling games are first party. But between Sony and Microsoft, Sony wins hands down when it comes to internal studios. Microsoft acquired Rare but have only manage to put out Banjo Kazooie games.

I don't care about sales, i just care about games. Seeing as how Sony is putting out some of the best games on ANY console this year, i'll stick with ps3.

[keysy420]

over 10 yrs sony won this gen. 'Its not a sprint its a marathon" having a dated system will altimately kill xbox. technol;ogy doulbes every 2 yrs. without a growing system it cant make it

[bozebo]

"3. Ensure Project Natal is a success by catering towards casual and hardcore gamers"

the only way to make hardcore gamers happy about natal is to scrap it

[mylesbarfed]

I am a 360 owner, and honestly, i'm glad to hear MS is feeling the pressure because i am sick and tired of how expensive they try and make their stuff.

Competition is good thing, i'm excited to see what benefits 360 users will see in response to the rising popularity of the ps3.

i hate those controllers though :P

[blazed13]

LMAO at this stupid article.....

[BlindspliT]

lh_swe

mw2 suger kuk
mw2 sucks c**k, overrated piece of sh*t! uc2= GOTY no fokin doubt

[Rowsdower]

it has no sweat glands

[doa766]

now the PS3 is about to complete its third year on the market and it sold 27 million worldwide

when 360 completed its third year (one year ago) it had 24 million units sold

when you consider global sales and the year head start 360 had, PS3 is clearly on second place and with expectations of catching up with Wii, 360 is third with no hopes of catching up with PS3

all NPD numbers from the last couple of years showing 360 selling more are US only, 360 is nothing on Europe and Japan

[l King I]

IN 2010 :)

[Cuthroat]

I was a big 360 fanboy, but have since found added value in the PS3 - I have both systems now and am reaping the fruits of competition! I hope that they continue to push each other as the gaming is truly epic, as well as the price points!

[bjornbear]

Nicely said =) +bubs to you fellow gamer

[EVILDEAD360]

LMAO @ the usual 360 haters holding retending anyone not a PS3 extremist believes them.

Let's get the obvious out of the way..Slim was a great move by Sony (even I bought one) and Uncharted 2 is a GOTY status.

Newsflash..Nothing is going to stop the 360 from having a great holiday season or the biggest year in it's history come this time next year.

This mini-blog is a rehash of the same blogs we've seen on this site day after day (but with a new title and angle). It uses the same played out hater tactics to attempt to minimize the 360's game impact for 09' and then try to downplay the monster year it will have in 2010.

Halo:ODST was a resounding success..period. (notice the writer has to bring up the length of the campaign, like it means anything to the blog). It also was biggest selling exclusive of 2009.

Halo Wars, Star Ocean 4, Shadow Complex, Forza 3, and Left 4 Dead 2 all are great titles to release on ANY year. Not to mention MAJOR DLC redefining moments with 'Lost and the Damned' and 'Ballad..'

The historic Call of Duty numbers are in and the 360 completely dominated the sales.

On top of all of this bo Live is hands down still the best online console srvice period.

2010? God of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 will do huge numbers and IMO the only true system sellers that the PS3 has ever had arrive on the system.

But, Splinter Cell, Fable 3, Mass Effect 2, and Alan Wake are going to all make a lot of noise too.

But, let's all have a moment of silence for ANY game in the release path of Halo:Reach. This game will break all system exclusive records that have been set thus far.

This is all going to happen before Natal launches and potentially becomes the game changer of this generation.

So what does Microsoft have to sweat? The PS3 will continue to have renewed enthusiam this holiday, but the 360 did 6 million alone in the 4th quarter of last year. A repeat performance would only solidify the 360 install base.

[bjornbear]

wrong

[EVILDEAD360]

Lol @ that being all you got.

Yup..too easy.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I see Reach selling well...but it's not going to break Halo 3's record. I think Halo is dying out. Slowly...but surely.

If Gran Turismo 5 came out the same day as Halo: Reach...it would actually be a pretty close race.

[JD_Shadow]

First, you forgot Heavy Rain, WKC, Agent, and Trico to your PS3 list. Not to mention that there are a lot of things that Sony probably has yet to announce.

Secondly, let's get this out of the way: anything Halo is going to sell just because it's got the name "Halo" on it. I could take a sh!t right now, write the word "Halo" on one of the turds, and I could sell that within a matter of seconds. ODST wasn't worth the 60 bucks, and Wars was forgotten about rather quickly. Forza 3 didn't make that much of an impact (people have already stopped talking about it a few weeks after its launch), even when Greenwald was talking all that sh!t about it.

Plus, did you SERIOUSLY say ODST was the "biggest selling exclusive of 2009"? According to WHO? Sold well? Yeah. Bigger than, say, Uncharted 2? Nope. Star Ocean 4 is headed to the PS3 this February, and Shadow Complex was off of MY radar screen. L4D2...I won't even start on what I think about that one. And did you seriously bring up DLC to state your point (DLC that could very well end up on the PS3 before you know it)? That tells you something about your reaching, and how much MS stalled this year.

SC:C could be good, and I wouldn't mind trying it, but you're playing it up too much. Fable 3 would be the only thing you mentioned that I would be interested in that would stay exclusive (as there is all that "we will, but we will not" thing that Bioware keeps doing with Mass Effect). The only think I've heard about Alan Wake were all the delays it had. We've only seen tech demos of Natal, and that looks like Microsoft is trying to steal some of Nintendo's thunder. We don't know how it's going to perform or when it's actually going to be released. Reach could be too much of a good thing.

I don't think Microsoft can rely on Facebook and Twitter to carry XBL's $50/year price tag (and Facebook integration is coming to the PS3, too, with x game chat on its way, as well).

I think MS has reasons to "sweat" right now.

[EVILDEAD360]

@ Leon

LMAO @ Halo dying out slowly and Reach not breaking Halo 3's record. Let me break it down for you. Halo Reach will easily top every record set by Halo 3 by a long shot.

When Halo 3 launches in September 2010, it will see an Xbox install base that is close to double of what it saw 3 years ago. Bungie's Swan song will be the biggest exclusive game of 2009.

In fact, if Gran Turismo launched the same day it would get smoked. Gran turismo 5 will do 1.5 to 2 million out of the box at most.

Modern warfare 2 has shown us that the Xbox fanbase will push Reach into the 4 million day one type of launch. You don't have to believe me..it's going to happen anyways.

@ Dark Power

I didnt forget anything on the PS3 list that actually mattered. Gran turismo and God of war 3 are the only games that will truly have an impact..period. Your opinions of the Halo franchise are completely meaningless. I stand on line at Halo midnight launches and there are millions and millions of real fans for internet Halo haters like yourself.

Sorry..Microsoft is not sweating

But, once again as I predicted the biggest selling exclusive in 2009 is Halo: ODST. Uncharted 2 is at 1.5 million (ODST topped that in one day in North America alone). By the end of the holidays ODST could possibly top 5 million.

Look your opinion on the Xbox exclusives don't matter either. Halo wars (1.5 million), Forza 3 is pushing a million, and Left 4 dead 2 is about to move big numbers when it launches tommorow.

Shadow Complex was one of the best games of 2009...period. So I'll use DLC anytime a point. In fact, 'Lost and the Damned' did a million out of the box..'Ballad' and the GTA 'stories' $40 package gets more ad time than ANY PS3 game I've seen all year.

Even without DLC, no matter how you hype the PS3 exclusives in 2009, the Blu-Ray install base jusrt does not care. I own and absolutely love Demon Souls, but the game is a non-factor (370,000). Ratchet and Clank is doing 190,000 copies. OMG..how can Left 4 Dead 2 hope to compete with those numbers.

Muli-platform? Look at almost every game released. The 360 completely dominated in total software sales in 2009. Watch closely when those final Modern Warfare 2 numbers come in to witness what I'm talking about.

Once again..why on earth should Microsoft sweat when these successes clearly are enough to guarantee a decent holiday for the system.

No matter how the PS3 does in 2010, the 360 is poised to have it's best year this entire generation.

EVIL

[Timactionfigures]

Folks always seem to forget that Microsoft had a whole year in the market before PS3 or Wii. I won't even include Wii in the same market. It became an utter disappointment after the first year for me games-wise.

Now that Sony has had a chance to catch up time-wise and get some games out there, we can clearly see they are the superior hardware of the HD consoles. It has so much more to offer and I question how anyone could possibly choose Xbox360 (with tremendous RRoD failures, few great exclusives, having to pay for online, additional costs for hard drive, wireless, no HDMI output for an HD console....say what?!?!)

Sony is taking over with such a great offering of exclusive games...and the best multi-plats. Microsoft...where are the games and value of a hardware FAILURE?!

[Relientk77]

(in the pic) well if I was wearing that suit I would be too damn

[teto83]

MS is terrible for gaming, they drove GTA to the ground and now they want to destroy as many franchises as they can including halo and soon MGS anf FFXIII.

Look for Mass Effect2 on PS3 next year....and no one caring.

Master chief's nipples are running out of milk...prepare for halokart some time in the future.

[Toman85]

For me Sony won 2008 and 2009 with the best exclusive games
And dont get me wrong, I own the trio this gen :)

2008 heavyhitters for PS3 was
Metal Gear Solid IV
Little Big Planet
Resistance 2
Ratchet And Clank Quest For Booty

Xbox 360:
Gears Of War 2
Fable 2
Lost Odyssey

2009 heavyhitters:
PS3
Uncharted 2 Among Thieves
Killzone 2
Ratchet And Clank A Crack In Time
Infamous

360:
Forza Motorsport 3
Halo 3 ODST, not the biggest heavyhitter for my part, but listed it up because I owned the game one week after release

This is my opinion, and thats why I like PS3 more and more over 360
Its nice to see competition, but for me PS3 has the strongest influence

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Do you play your Wii often?

I own a PS3 and Wii. I haven't really touched it much lately. Even when Brawl came out, I was playing things like Uncharted and MGS4. I do, however, freakin' LOVE Wario Ware: Smooth Moves!

The only other game I've had that much fun with this generation was Buzz: Quiz TV.

[commodore64]

double post

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

What the frick, man?

Why can't you just single post like the rest of us?

What a douche.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They aren't sweating. They just know what Sony's capable of now. They need a REALLY good plan to keep them alive this generation. I have a feeling that the next generation will go to Sony right off the bat.

[stonecold1]

coming in march 2010 forza couldnt capalize on gt5 then we have finalfantasy launching in japan as of next month i guess m$ would be sweating and if final fantasy vs 13 comes in 2010 m$ should be sweating has gt5 final fantasy are huge system seller and the ps3 at 28 million only 4 to 5 million behind 2010 ps3 will easly outsell xbox360 same people go and replace the xbox over and over with rrod problems so they may had enough of m$ and mad ethe moveto the ps3 plus the 360 is obuslete already no games only 3 games this gear what halo wars halo odst spin off and flopza3 thats why i choose ps3 until m$ fix there rrod i wont buy won until they get it straighten out

[abi980]

4.7 billion loss, inferior online, slow a$$ blu ray,(loading,installing, loading, installing) no gamez, third place... sorry no sweat for the Beast 360. We'll be jammin with Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Halo Reach, Alan Wake and the superior versions of every multiplatform game out there. '09 looking great you can go ahead and talk about graphics on your exclusives cause that's all you do.

[horndog]

Well it was only out a for a few days so we won't see much sales in this months chart, but if you guys want to claim it as a disaster,flop i guess we would have to take you word for it since you guys have all the experience with great flops such as KZ2, LBP, Haze ,Lair, and might have to add UC 2 to that list due to the amount of hype and scores it received. MW2 sold more than UC2, heck most games on the 360 will sell more than UC 2. The patchstation3 is a disaster this gen, nothing like what the ps2 was last gen.

How about this idiot?

"Look for Mass Effect2 on PS3 next year....and no one caring"

That's what some tards said about MW2 before it came out and what are we seeing?? Ya, i thought so. "Sony has to many good exclusives so i don't have time for MW2" LOL. Yet it's probably going to sell more than any other title on the ps3 this year. Speaking of great selling ps3 exclusives can one of you please point out to me where Demons Soul, Ratchet, NGS2 are on the sales chart. I might have missed them. I saw UC 2 with a dissapointing 500k which almost got beat out by a no name title such as Borderland but where are the rest???

[Digitaldude]

Maybe, i mean Ps3 sales are heating up.

[Petebloodyonion]

The only persons sweating are the posters on theses forum who are trying to justify that their console is THE CONSOLE.

For Microsoft and Sony it's just another day at the job

[YogiBear]

" There was also a guy saying that he was going to play UC2 for his third play through. Now, why would you be playing that for the 3rd time, if you have soooooooo many other games to play?

Just wondering."

Probably because UC2 unlike some other games is actually that good.

Just answering.

[JayD-1K]

just like people play a 360 more than once for the achievements!

[StrboyM]

poor masterchief in that pic....hes the only good guy on the 360.

to bad M$ whores him out so badly. hes probably thinking that he will never reach his full potential on the crapbox..lmao

"when will I be in a game that can show me in real HD, instead of using me in all these half arsed DLC add-ons...if only I was on ps3..sigh"

[XDF]

X360 will have the # selling game in 2010 in Halo Reach. Have 2 more fall multi million sellers in Fable 3 and Gears of War 3 waiting in the Wing in 2010.

Will launch Natal that will sell X360 like hot cakes.

Have Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, and Alan Wake coming in the first half off the year.

And can certainly have another price drop available sometime next year as well.

Plus Microsoft have unlimited cash to support the Xbox Brand.

Get over it, X360 is going nowhere.

[Delta]

Jump out......

[Gamerday]

The picture that goes with this is so freakin funny

[Domer25]

I bought a ps3 for gran turismo 5 (full version) still waiting like everyone else. Love the console btw. BUT if MS is holding the 360 slim up their sleeves, now is the time to release it. Competition makes the industry and gamers win.

[NPDKing]

The PS3 is still in dead last place by 7 million units. LOL. PS3 fanboys need constant reassurance that their console doesn't suck. This is just the kind of article they love. One from some no-name website that they'll look at as 100% FACT just because it supports the PS3 and/or negatively portrays the 360. It's just never-ending damage control. Sales don't matter when the PS3 is doing poorly, sales do matter when the PS3 is doing well. 360 exclusives suck, but when they lose exclusivity and are announced for the PS3 they are suddenly great.

A certain Xbox LIVE feature is crap until it's announced for the PS3 3 years late, at which point it's treasured. The MGS and Final Fantasy series are incredible, until they both go to the 360 and now they automatically suck.

If 360 exclusives score high, it's because "Microsoft paid off the reviewers!" If PS3 exclusives score low, it's because "EVERY1's teh BIAS against da PS3 cuz IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING.™" If 360 games sell high, it's because "bots got no other games to play". If PS3 games sell low it's because "PS3 owners have so many games to play they can't afford to buy this game".

If multiplatform games look better on the 360, it's because "the developers are lazy". If multiplatform games (on that extremely rare occasion) look better on the PS3, it's "because of teh cell and teh blurays".

It's very clear that PS3 fanboys are extremely delusional and unstable to a point that you almost fear for their well-being. You never know what to expect as their arguments change on a daily, even hourly, basis. They are rabid, violently aggressive, and ready to pounce on you at the slightest negative comment about Sony or the PS brand. The fanboy war is always in the back of their minds, and they'll be ready to bash the 360 in any article whatsoever, whether or not it has anything to do with the 360 or PS3, or even video gaming itself. Double standards, hypocrisy, name calling... these are all the tactics that PS3 fanboys use more than any other fanboy that has ever existed.

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[robotnik]

TheTruth2009 is butthurt, you can tell from his desperation :)

xbox is d00med, kids.