PC Modders Strike Back At Infinity Ward

From BashAndSlash.com:

"As you may be aware, our very own PST*Joker has made assertions on BASH that the MP AC130 and several other MW2 features were influenced (without any recognition) by him and other PC modders.

A few hours ago, I saw a Tweet go out from a community member suggesting that Joker issue a takedown notice of Infinity Ward's AC130 vid on Youtube. "

A modder from the Call of Duty 4 community has contacted Youtube and filed a copyright complaint against the gameplay trailer of Modern Warfare 2 from July 27th. This trailer featured an AC-130 which was part of a COD4 mod called X4 without any credit going to the creator.

Youtube has removed this video from Infinity Ward's official Youtube channel.

Infinity Ward's community manager Robert Bowling has this to say about it: "Really? Copyright infringment claim? :sigh:"

[CrippleH]

Taste of their own medicine. They have been doing this on youtube videos. Eat that.

[evrfighter]

(edited) pc modding community: "sh*t just got real"

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I don't quite understand the claim however need moar info.

LOL at bowling's remark. what a douche.

[Noctis Aftermath]

IW deserve it, and i hope alot more people do things similar to this that p1sses them off.

[Torinir]

@evrfighter The whole claim is that PSTJoker made the AC130 for MW1 in his mod. IW took a number of bits and pieces from his X4 mod and put them into MW2, including the AC130 and tactical nuke.

As to whether the DCMA complaint is 100% golden depends on the EULA of the tools he used to make the mod. Most mod tools provided by the publisher and/or developer usually have the little catch that mods made with the tools are the ultimate property of the pub/dev.

It'll be interesting to see whether IW disputes the DCMA takedown or not.

[darkmurder]

Robert Bowling can kiss my ass, seriously what a knobhead Activision + IW thinks they are invincible, hopefully they'll be the GM of the video game industry.

[ChozenWoan]

Take $5 and pre-order MAG which gets you into the beta. This way you still get your headshot fix, and your improving the FPS genre for all gamers. Dedicated servers with 32-256 players per map, Chain of Command (Only the best can lead an army of 128 stone hardcore killers), multiple missions per match, Command perks similar to MW2 only less... "cheap", and the top scorers wont "ALWAYS!!!" be campers.

Consider it an investment into a real modern warfare game.

[The Lazy One]

Not that I don't find this ammusing, but I have a feeling IW has a little more pull with the people who would hold the original copyright to those things (The US governemt).

I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in the mod agreement saying infinity ward can use whatever they make with it.

[Elaine Benes]

like this matters. lol.
i dont like that there will not be any mods allowed to MW2 on PC, but im not gonna cry about it. Im gonna get Bad Company 2 and enjoy 32v32 and mods. whining gets you no where.

[evrfighter]

"whining gets you no where. "

and paying more for a gimped cod4 does? lol actually it does. It ensures that all of Activisions future pc titles are $10 more.

bend over buddy cuz here comes uncle Bob..When he's done with you. you'll pull out your wallet and hand him all your cash while saying.

"please sir, may I have some more?"

[mauleriscool]

I've had the MAG since closed beta and made a character on each faction level 40. But as soon as you hit level 40, the games gets pretty boring. If they don't allow you to unlock everything under the skill trees, it will limit your gameplay which I disliked.

[Elaine Benes]

you talk about how bad everyone is getting "raped" here, and yet EVERYONE is still going to buy this game.

maybe we like rape, ever think of that? lol. my point is, IW values money over whining----so how would whining fix the problem? You would have to take away thier money(not buy the game) to be effective. But guess what? the whiner are the minority in this, so it will never happen. Its a lost cause, so instead of annoying everyone, just enjoy the game.

[evrfighter]

I can give you almost 200 thousand reasons why your wrong if you'd like.

mw2 is going to be proprietary to steam on the pc and it BARELY made the top 5 top sellers just today.

pc gamers aren't stupid.

[The Lazy One]

it's not out till the 12th on steam. It's pretty impressive that it's in the top 3 days before the release when it's a downloadable game.

[Elaine Benes]

they are prolly buying it on the 360, since IW made it into a "console" game by giving it the same play-parameters. i know a few people who are buying it on 360 b/c its been "gimped" to a console-game level. And guess what? IW is still gonna get there money. you've proven nothing, and instead of "claiming" you can give 200 reason---just give me ONE.

But you cant, and everyone is going to enjoy the game---and even though no one here can prove it, you will prolly be playing it by the end of the week as well.

[Blaze929]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Jones Miller]

I was really laughing my BEEEEP off. That was funny as BEEEP. I love the last part. I have a special mission for you. I will kill you with my own hands and gun if you dont succeed...cancel my preorder LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Pandamobile]

The guy that filed the copyright claim was present in the podcast when Bowling announced IWNet. He didn't seem very happy about it.

How can IW do this? So many people that work in the games industry came out of the PC mod scene. Just look at DICE, and Valve, and Epic... So many great mods have come from BF2, Half-Life 2 and Unreal Tournament. Now they're just getting pushed aside by IW in order to control the community.

F*cking Infinity Ward...

[toaster]

If I start, I'd just get angry. You won't like PC gamers when they're angry.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@Below

LOL exactly what I said.

[FantasyStar]

WTF Brucie?

[shopsmartash]

Brucie was the first thing that popped into my head lol

[BldyShdw]

LMFAO

"why do you have a knife?"
"everyone runs faster with a knife"

Thanks man, made my day

PSN: BldyShdw

[NaiNaiNai]

After seeing some new stuff from BF:BC2 I'm done with CoD, I actually pulled my money off and paid off BF, It just looks way better. Not to mention it will have more players and a good story that I already like.

[silvacrest]

i agree that it will probably be better (the graphics already look better) but more players? that means it would have to sell more the MW2 which i doubt will happen

[dantheman1515]

Why not play both? Be a gamer, not a fanboy. Im going to get both. I love Call of Duty multiplayer, and Bad Company had one of the most fun campaigns I played this generation.

They are completely different gameplay wise anyways. Although they are both FPS, they have nothing in common really.

They can coexist.

And to everyone complaining about the PC game. Shut up! Why do you people feel so entitled? You should be happy that the game is even on the PC. If Activision wasn't involved than this would be a 360 exclusive. Play the game, and enjoy it for what it is, rather than sulk of what you think it should be.

[Elvfam511]

Whoa whoa whoa

You should be thanking the PC gamers for COD

Yes they can coexist but that's not the point

IW is screwing there fanbase on the pc community

Gamers stand up when they get shafted

People aren't fanboy's because they pick a game over the other

@below who you talking to?

[Noctis Aftermath]

@above: wow your ignorance astounds me. i'm not even going to argue with your flawed logic.

[FantasyStar]

Really, Dan. You missed the point entirely.

This has nothing to do with MW2 anymore. This has everything to do with IW+Activision giving the fans that made them what they are the middle-finger. I'm a reasonable guy: had they only made their game and not said anything else then I could easily walk away and find another game. What makes this personal is how IW goes on record and treats the PC Community like retards that don't know how to handle a server list.

I also noticed you recently made a new account.

[dantheman1515]

They don't owe you anything. And how do you know that all the fans feel shafted? There is an answer, they don't. The game's going to sell enormous amounts, and your attempts to revolt against the establishment will fail. The outburst against IW and Activision is the result of a bunch of whiny people, who feel they have personally been wronged.

They could care less about me, you, or anybody else. They make games to make money. End of discussion. Its okay though, because Jesus still loves you regardless.

[Nihilism]

"If Activision wasn't involved than this would be a 360 exclusive."

wrong.

cod started on pc. i doubt there will ever be a day where a cod game doesn't come to pc.

[FantasyStar]

Yeah, they don't owe us anything. Whatever, I'll just get another game. But you should check my last post as I cannot be more specific at what this is about now.

Also, pessimism doesn't win wars, or get girls to take off their clothes.

[free2game365]

silvacrest he's refering to how many people you can have on a server at once, 18 on PC and consoles for COD vs 24 on consoles and probably 48-64 on the PC for Bad Company 2

[toaster]

Ignorant people....
What Fantasy said is right. It's not just about the game anymore. It's about the gamers. I'm surprised the Xbox and PS3 community isn't up in arms either. They're paying more for less as well. Not as bad as PC gamers though, but consoles get their fair share of ludicrous changes in the game.

[SL1M DADDY]

Really? Are you actually expecting him to thank the PC community for COD? The same community that bought less than 10% of the copies of COD4? The same community that pirated so many copies of the game that the devs even went public with astonishment about it?

http://www.bit-tech.net/new...

You want us to thank the community that would rather steal a copy of a game than pay for it and give back to those they "allegedly" got on their feet to make great games like this in the first place? Oh you take too much credit for this I think...

Here's a thought... Be angry at the pirates and less upset about Infinity Ward protecting their IP. Make sense? Hope so.

[dredgewalker]

Id never thought id see the day that most fanboys agree with one thing. Hell im done with COD, hello BF2!! Its like ditching an expensive and demanding girlfriend, it that easy.

[Noctis Aftermath]

@Elvflam511: sorry man, was aimed at "dantheman1515", +bubs for you as an apology.

[The Lazy One]

you raise a pretty good point. You can't really expect them to be so open with their game when their last one sold less than other platforms and was pirated significantly.

You can blame Infinity Ward all you want, but I'd bet it's the pirate's fault they decided against a more open online system.

[FantasyStar]

I'm "really" surprised that Youtube went and did that. I guess the Youtube's Draconian methods really do contain some laughs for us yet.

Suck it. IW.

EDIT: Oh S***! I've been playing CoD4 PC for some time, and I never knew about X4!

http://bashandslash.com/ind...

FYI, guys the dude and others really did make the mods before IW decided to take it for their own game. The claim is legitimate!

[RetroPietro]

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[Elvfam511]

made a Mod for COD4MW thats the same thing as IW AC-130

So the guy is claiming copyright infringement

and its shown by the link of the story

Here's another link got it from the gamerzone

http://bashandslash.com/ind...

[kingdavid]

Copyright for what? So he registered the mod did he?

As if its not property of IW.. It was made in their game.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Good. IW and Activision can kiss my ass. Stealing mods and calling them their own? Raising PC prices, Uk prices, demanding PS3 price cuts, dedicated servers, the "controversial levels" they are out of control...

[cpuchess]

The copyright belongs to IW not to the modders, so they can do whatever they want. This includes raising the price, no dedicated servers etc.

[The Lazy One]

Activision demanding the PS3 price cut is probably a huge contributing factor to the PS3 having such a significant price cut. A price cut that will help the industry as a whole with more customers, and most specifically PS3 gamers as PS3 developers will start to make more money.

[bigboss911]

this dude has not one leg to stand on. Unless you guys forgot, it was already in the 1st game to start with. so he claims they took his mod, when they can turn around and say he took it from the campaign. some of this crap is really starting to get old now. if you dont like the game, dont buy it. you are wasting your time by b!tching on the internet 24/7. go get Bc2 instead. even though i dont see what is so great about it. i didnt care for the first one.

[tehk1w1]

I think he was doing it more just to be a complete asshole to IW and Activision that genuinely being upset about it.

Sticking it to the man so to speak.

[Monk3y]

You're so true

[danielle007]

I love witnessing a good beyatch slap.

[swansong]

I like my video games,but they are just that, GAMES! entertainment, which is to enjoy.If you have a problem with a game or system DON'T BUY IT! Real simple. There are much more important things in life than the gaming industry. People need to grow up or shut up.

[bozebo]

If the claim is fully legitimate in the eyes of video content then that would mean the game itself cannot legally be published (because it also has the "stollen" content) lol. I hope that happens.

[air1]

why do pc gamers cry so damn much?

its simple...

either buy it

or dont buy it stfu and wait for bf2 or what ever else is better all of a sudden..

[Pandamobile]

Because we're not sheep who will take it up the ass for a developer.

[air1]

clearly you pc gamers are not sheeps i dont hear bahahaha come out you ppl all i ever see is wawawawa, developers owe me this and that.

pc gamers get so much sh!t for free yet you idiots still backlash at dumb sh!t, bu bu but that was my idea! and i get no credit?!

get a real fvcking job and then you will get all the credit you want...

@below

shouldnt you be signing petitions? im sure there is something else to cry about, no?

[mebob]

Shouldn't you be sucking bobby's c#@K? i'm sure he's getting ready to unload more sh1t any moment now.

[Chnswdchldrn]

Wow, where did all the ignorant call of duty fanboy f@cktards come from? Shouldn't you be in line to purchase the game at exactly 12 so that you have an advantage in multiplayer? Oh wait, that's right, there are people who already bought it, some weeks in advance, and Infinity Ward doesn't see their early rank as unfair to those who purchase it on the actual release date and thus are not resetting ranks.

[dragon82]

How do you know they aren't going to reset the ranks at midnight when the game launches??? I guess if you are that worried about an online rank then you should have got the game early too.

[huntsman1230]

isnt the whole reason modders do what they do is for no monetary gain or public infamy but for the enjoyment of all gamers?

isnt this the argument that modders use? don't they PRAISE developers for a game's modability?

And here is a modder who is claiming copyright infringement on something he made for nothing more than "the enjoyment of all gamers and no other reason?

yea right. he obviously has a bigger motive other than it being "for the good of the people". people are all the same, yet you are all ignorant to this fact.

I am so surprised that I am the only one to mention such truth in this whole damn comment section so far.

[Redempteur]

When a mod get enough succes ..it become wel know ...and sometimes the modders ctaches the attention of soem editors ( see counter strike ?? Prime example )

Using a mod work ( even if it's created with your tools without giving credit )is bad ..

[jack who]

i dont get it too

[DirtyLary]

grasping for straws.

[rob6021]

I think all the console gamers need to get together and start whining as to why we're not getting Dedicated servers/or the option to host our own with more players online with MW2... It makes about as much sense to me as this. Heck we should be able to mod the PS3 version too..

[prejur]

IW deserves every bit of it for pooping on the PC version.

[JeepGamer]

This is basically a tantrum by some whining people who think that their opinion matters outside of their group.