360 to own Holiday 2009 (but only just)

Gameswire takes a look at the most prominent console bundles available in the run up to this year's festive period in order to predict the likely victor.

[Christopher_Walken]

All signs are starting to point in a different direction. You may want to take a look outside your window Gameswire. Things are changing.

[Genesis5]

Wait until the MW2 bundle bargin shopper gets home and finds out they have to buy a wifi(unless you don't mind drilling holes in your floors to run cables) and a gold membership to get everything their new purchase has to offer. As opposed to just taking it out if the box and plugging it in.

[Christopher_Walken]

Yes, but a majority of consumers will look at the price tag on the boxes.

Not many people know offhand that you need multiple accessories to get the 360 up to the PS3 standard equipment.

[Saaking]

How can they even say that? They just look like fools. It's either PS3 or Wii this Holiday season, the 360 is out of the race.

[soxfan2005]

"MW2 bargain bundle"??

The MW2 bundle will be the most expensive 360 on the market, not a "bargain" bundle. Anyone who buys the most expensive version of a console is cetainly going to know what they are getting.

EDIT @ below - if what you say is true, how does that support your opinion that the PS3 will do far better this year? By your reasoning, only a tiny percentage of people will realize the value of the PS3.

[Parapraxis]

"The MW2 bundle will be the most expensive 360 on the market,"
Good point sox, MS probably should have bundled it with a cheaper SKU to sell more.

Also, "Anyone who buys the most expensive version of a console is certainly going to know what they are getting.", work 1 day in retail and you'll immediately see just how wrong you are about that.
A tiny percentage of people actually research and are informed, the majority of consumers only know what they are told by the sales rep.

[Elvfam511]

I think probably COD addicts wont care about the price and just buy it

[presto717]

Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 will lay the smack down on the 360 in Japan. And as big as modern warfare is, it is not the be all / end all. A lot of people who are interested in COd4 already have a PS3 or 360 so I dont see MW2 moving a sh!tload of consoles as the article suggests.

With the PS3 being the "in thing" now, I really dont think MS should be relying on a multiplatform game to win over consumers.

[ReviewsArePolitics]

With no games, it's kinda hard. Oh yeah, "but teh salez", "teh profits". Let's play sales and profits, yay.

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

Elvfam
A lot of COD addicts will already have 360s or PS3s

[silvacrest]

exactly
its not like final fantasy fans in japan waiting for the next gen installment, we are talking about a sequel to a game that came out 2 years ago, i would have thought everyone who bought MW1 would buy the second without much new comer interest?

[Saaking]

As I've said before the 360's price advantage is the ONLY reason it outsold the Ps3. with that gone, The 360 is gonna go down. MS can Only sell if they're cheap.

[vhero]

Hahahahaha somebody had to say it eh??

[zeeshan]

First of all, the bundle is going to cost $400 and it won't be a $199 or $299 bundle. Secondly, it's a damn multiplatform game and is the 6th sequel of the COD franchise. The last 2 games were developed for next-gen machines and are available dirt cheap on both XBOX360 and PS3. Basically, what I am trying to say is that what the author is trying to do here has miserably failed. If the author thinks that this bundle will move enough units to beat the crap out of PS3 then he really needs to visit N4G more often, check Famitsu, Media Create and NPD numbes and see what the critics are saying about PS3 and the upcoming lineup of exclusive PS3 games. Almost all of them are AAA games of amazing quality.

It would take M$ a lot more than a MW2 bundle and a $50 rebate to stop Sony's onslaught come holiday season. It is true that MW2 will shine on 360 and will easillyyyy outsell the PS3 numbers but we all know why's that going to happen. PS3 users have an ultimate lineup of upcoming and already released games. There is just too much going on for SONY fans to keep up with as it is and I don't think MW2 will help 360 regain their second spot. 2009 belonged to SONY and it will continue to belong to SONY until Dec 31st.

What's more interesting is that if the games lineup is anything to go by, it seems 2010 will also belong to SONY which is simply pathetic for M$ as they have had a cheaper price advantage in addition to a year headstart. Like I said, it would take a M$ a lot more than fancy bundles to stop Sony from benefiting from this momentum that they have achieved in recent months.

[whoelse]

We have all seen the impact that the slimmer and crucially cheaper PS3 has had. I think the PlayStation 3 will lead the 360 globally this holiday, but the MW2 bundle will take a small dent out of the ratio compared to the current state of affairs where it is more 5:3 PS3:360.

My guestimate is 4:3.

[joemayo76]

to "win" the holidays, but how do you "own" something or someone just barely? doesn't that defeat the purpose of "owning or pwning" them?

[sikbeta]

"All signs are starting to point in a different direction. You may want to take a look outside your window Gameswire. Things are changing"

To the Article Writer:

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Agree it will be much closer than the past three years but in the end the PS3 will come in last. Next year will be the hardest year for the PS3 because MS as a hell of alot of games coming and a huge price cut under their belt. Next year we will see a 360 for under $150 with a hard drive. I would like to see Sony do that without going bankrupt.

[callahan09]

"I think probably COD addicts wont care about the price and just buy it"

Wouldn't COD addicts already have their machine with which they're going to play MW2?

[silvacrest]

i've said it once and i'll say it again, at some point a price cut just wont cut it any more for the 360, in fact the latest price cut didn't give a spike anything like the PS3 slim did

arguing the 360 exclusives will push sales is almost moot since the PS3 will still have a awesome 2010 lineup

no way next year will be "the hardest for the PS3" being as expensive as it was was its biggest challenge, if anything the 360 has it rougher, its price advantage is gone and sony are churning out exclusives pretty fast now

[callahan09]

"Next year we will see a 360 for under $150 with a hard drive"

You're kidding, right? Why would you think that? I mean, that's half of what it costs now to get a 360 with a hard drive. You do realize that the cheapest way to get a 360 with a hard drive is still the 300 dollar machine, right?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

^^^ you do know there is a $200 360 SKU on the market right now don't you? Where else would they go $400? they can only go down and $50 would put it just under %150.

Think dude think

[callahan09]

Yeah, 50 dollars would put the ARCADE at under 150. But that doesn't have a hard drive. You clearly said "with a hard drive."

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

^^^ The arcade will be replaced by the 20gb for gamers wanting Natal.

[CrazzyMan]

if it won`t?

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

And PS3 is in.
Gameswire is also out, outdated.

[Sitdown]

"Wait until the MW2 bundle bargin shopper gets home and finds out they have to buy a wifi(unless you don't mind drilling holes in your floors to run cables)"

I can safely say that I have owned a 360 since launch, and lived in 3 different residences......and not a single time have I had to drill holes in any floors. Here is a question, do you have wireless cable television? Just wondering how you deal with the nuisance, since you think people will have to drill holes for the 360.

[ruiner4482]

@26

Then if you had a 2 story home and the internet is on the opposite floor of the xbox. You would need a whole hell of a lot of cable. And that would be a b!tch to do, the next best option is to run cable through the walls which sucks.

Internet connections have mainly been setup around the computer. If you have a family and the space you have a computer room, and the connection usually went there. Where ever that is anything else that needs a connection must run from there or be connected wirelessly.

Just because your situation doesn't call for it, doesn't mean everyone else is the same. The 360 should have had a wireless connection.

[ico92]

but the thing is just like halo odst most of the people that are gonna buy MW2 already own MW

[starvinbull]

Should read "360 will own chrstmas in the USA, just. PS3 will own christmas around the rest of the world significantly."

[Real Gambler]

First, for people who are arguing about Wi-Fi... Do you know that you can get a USB Wi-Fi adapter on Ebay for $10? Built into each consoles, it's probably less than $3.00. Not adding it to the 360 would have been ok if you could use ANY USB adapters or at least third party products, but sadly, this is Microsoft... Sure some people do not need WiFi, but wow, the one that do dearly pay for it!

Two: The author forgot two "little" things when he said: "Even though it doesn’t take into account concerns like paying for Xbox Live, WiFi adapters or Play and Charge kits, just under GBP 200/USD 300 for a console with a handful of games appeals to people’s sense of immediate frugality – no matter how much it ends up costing them down the line." Even if people are "frugal", they may not even be aware of all these added costs, but sure enough, by now, they are scared about the 360 reliability, and they know the PS3 comes with a BluRay. Christmas sales comes from parents buying consoles for their children, and sure enough, they may be easier to convince to spend that much money on a more reliable console that will allow them to watch the odd Bluray movie on their HDtv, rather than thinking they are buying a time-bomb. (Keep in mind that most likely the newer 360 is more reliable, but hey, that's not what they heard!)

[MNicholas]

Then again they've always been last in sales. Despite a few good months here and there, the overall average annuals sales of the 360 is actually behind that of the PS3 and the Wii.

It's no wonder some people are trying very hard to keep articles like the following from showing up on the front page of N4G.

BTW: GT5 Prologue >>Forza 3 says Eurogamer's Dgital Foundry

Here it is:

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-4200...

GT5 Prologue wins by a landslide. So much so that the writer apologies not just for saying so but for Turn10 with unfounded speculation about their development priorities.

Copied from another comment:

Forza 3 "compared with GT5 Prologue?

+ Replay mode has slightly better motion blur
+ V-synced to avoid tearing

- GT5P has far more sophisticated lighting
- GT5P in 720P has 4xMSAA (double of Forza 3)
- GT5P in 1080P mode has 50% higher resolution but still has 2xAA
- GT5P is processing twice as many cars
- GT5P has tons of transparencies like dust-clouds
- GT5P has lots of effects (like heat haze) that Forza 3 simply does not"

They missed a few things like the fact that GT5P has interior rendering, etc...

Turns out that in addition to the inferior AF/resolution, half the cars, and all the other short-comings, Forza 3 doesnt even have AF!

Anyone who has played PC games knows the effect turning off AF has on frame-rate.

[UncleJaysus]

Both the PS3 and the 360 have some strong bundles this year, it's going to be interesting, that's for sure.

[Delta]

More like "360 to get owned Holiday 2009"
By PS3 that is.....

[Christopher_Walken]

"War has changed,"

[Saaking]

PS3 or Wii is gonna win. There is ZERO chance for the failbox.

[Delta]

But it never changes ;p
RROD coming this Holiday to a 360 near you.

[chrisulloa]

LOL PS3fantards debating facts

[cyborg6971]

nice to see all of these bots and bot sites still live in 07.

[Delta]

HAHAHAH Look at the Bots. Enjoy your RROD for Xmas.

[The Tour Man]

^^^ You can only hope that your precious little xturd doesnt get outsold by the PS3. The gap between the PS3 and 360 is slowly closing in especially after the price cut.

Read this: http://www.vgchartz.com/for... Although its a forum post, the person raises a good point. If youre expecting the PS3 NOT to surpass the 360 pretty soon (as early as mid 2010), then you need to change your expectations. Be afraid bot.

[PlayStation X]

nice to see you know what 'fact' means =/

[Guitarded]

They complain about someone using a crystal ball to predict future sales. Then they use their own to do the same and receive multiple agrees either way. Then you've got the ones that are so nervous they start damage control now by stating if 360 sells more than PS3, it's because RRoD or Microsoft advertising dollars.

Where is the list of PS3 exclusive games that, judging by sales, no one cares about except droids and reviewers? Keep in mind reviewers are being paid to play a game they didn't pay for on a system they didn't pay for. Their objectivity is out the window. The droids do like to forget that a majority of PS3 games are multi-plat and that the biggest sellers on the PS3 are multi-plat and third party. I do believe 360 and Wii biggest sellers are first party. I'm sure I'll be corrected If i'm mistaken.

You boys need to keep up hope that the price drop sales spike holds up because the games aren't doing it for you.

[PlayStation X]

ps3 has 5 exclusives in there top 10
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

360 has 4 exclusives in there top 10
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

bububububububyeeeeeeeeee

[callahan09]

I predict that when the NPD comes out for October in a couple of weeks you'll see that the PS3 outsold the 360 by quite a bit. I know Amazon is not the best indicator of trends, but if it's anything at all to go by, then the 360 is in for a world of hurt for October's hardware numbers. The PS3 has been in the top 20 every hour, and has often breached the top 10, whereas the only model of the 360 that has breached the top 50 in October is the Modern Warware 2 bundle, which are all pre-orders for a model that ships in November, and therefore won't even count towards October's numbers. We'll see.

[Narutone66]

from the XBL. They must really be desperate to sell more this holiday.

[reintype]

That's like the 5th Call of Duty to hit this current gen of consoles. If you haven't bought a console by then, I'm sure you wouldn't be buying one now.

I still think the PS3 is going to win this holiday, it's the only console where you can buy MW2, Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.

[chrisulloa]

Lol, yeah because 360 doesn't have Forza 3, Halo, and Left 4 Dead 2 for people to buy.

[abc1233]

for halo, most fans who already wanted it would have had it so halo shouldnt make THAT much of a difference since its been out for so long.

left 4 dead - quite a lot of people will just get the pc version.

besides, I don't really think forza 3 and left 4 dead 2 (as good games as they are) can stand up to the likes of uncharted 2 or demons souls. but meh, guess its just my opinion

[Lord_Ranos]

Yea Chris all those game you mention are just 60 dollars expansion packs and not true games, and their real names are Flopza 3, Gaylo 3: ODLC, and Left 4 Gays 2.

[PlayStation X]

forza never sold millions tho, it must be a flop!

bububububuu bubububububububububu

[DonCorneo]

Nope. same with mw1.5. those who want it already have a crapbox.. the potential buyer's (the ps2 install base) will go for the ps3.

[chrisulloa]

Console sales would be really low if a lot of people had gaming PC's. So when you say MOST people will buy it on their PC's you mean no one right? So anyways, you guys are really insecure about your console huh? Trying to justify your purchase and only being able to name one AAA anyone cares about. Hahahaha.

[abc1233]

don't need a proper gaming pc to run l4d2. my 5 year old pc can run it ffs. For the holidays, most people will be buying the consoles based on recent releases, you guys have forza 3 and odst (again, most people who wanted halo 3 already have it and i don't understand why someone would buy an actual console for an expansion) and ps3 has uncharted 2 and demon's souls.

[Saaking]

hahahahaahahahahahahaaahahaha!

[ultimolu]

*giggles with you*

[xcox]

this is my compassionate laugh, after all, life wouldn't be as fun w/o xb!tches circle jerking off over their long gone glory.

my fellow ps3 fan, be kind with your xb!tch, she's going thru tough times right now xD

[Parapraxis]

I doubt it.
Maybe in the US the 360 will come out on top (that's a big maybe BTW), but globally between the PS3 and 360 it's a no-contest.
PS3 is going to do far better.

(And no I didn't forget about the Wii, It's just not worth discussing as it holds next to no interest for me and most gamers)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

"And no I didn't forget about the Wii, It's just not worth discussing as it holds next to no interest for me and most gamers"

HUH? most gamers already own a Wii, hell most of the PS2 installbase owns a Wii.

[jessupj]

I think he meant most REAL gamers, not the non-gamers your probably talking about.

[i3eyond the Circle]

It's going to be interesting none the less.

Guess we'll know in January.

[Nathan Drake2]

of course it will own this holiday like it did last 7 weeks:
ps3-2,015,000
x360-1,037,000

[ultimolu]

...O rly?

With what? Seriously, with what?

Not with a $299.99 PS3 it won't.

[HDgamer]

They must be really high to think that. Wii has been dominating the sales of both consoles although it's slowly changing.

[ultimolu]

I'd like some of what they're smoking, lol...if they think Modern Warfare 2 is gonna help the 360 or something.

Hmm, I may get Modern Warfare 2. Don't know yet.

[devilmaycry2020]

I wish I had this magic crystal ball that all these websites use to see the future sales.

[Sarcasm]

It's called "Dope" You smoke it, and you become a "journalist"

[jessupj]

Lmao, bubble for you sarcasm

[NotSoSilentBob]

I think this writer is all about the US and doesn't take into consideration that the WHOLE WORLD buys things too. With Final Fantasy 13 Exclusively on PS3 in Japan that right there is going to be a BIG Hurdle for the 360 to get over.

[jessupj]

He probably was referring to the US, but some (some, not all) American journalists just don't bother to mention they're only talking in regard to US sales, because no one outside the US exists. I know there's a lot of great, friendly, knowledgable Americans out there, but I really hate the arrogance I've just described. Journalists and people like that make a bad name for the US.

[cliffbo]

'The PS3 is likely gain a lot of momentum thanks to its lower price and Uncharted 2, but the 360 will win out as the decade draws to a close, and we look forward to the massive Q1 2010 crush.'

what planet is he on? lol

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

The crush will come from Gran Turismo and God of War III.

Nothing on the 360 will sell like Gran Turismo 5 next year. I can guarantee that.

Then, we have Heavy Rain and The Last Guardian to finish out the year.

Good luck, other consoles!

[K__L__U__T__C__H]

Yeah God of war 3 isn't going to be crushing anything with its sales. Go back and look, neither part 1 or 2 did over 3 mil by itself and there was over 120 mil ps2's sold. I don't see anything from ps3 next year thats going to touch Halo Reach in sales. Also i wouldn't be shocked if Gran turismo 5 doesn't do as much as people expect.

[cyborg6971]

Clutch the 360 must be your second console ever, to not understand the draw of gt5 or gow3. Keep living in the past I hope you have fun with you one exclusive next year.

[silvacrest]

the xbox fan is talking about sales instead of the awesome games coming next year, your sales talk is not even related to this topic although u were just replying

just to reply to your comment, i would expect GOW3 to sell 2-3 million which is not bad at all, also, dont underestimate GT5's selling potential

[callahan09]

"Also i wouldn't be shocked if Gran turismo 5 doesn't do as much as people expect."

Don't underestimate GT5. It'll sell millions, easily. That's a game that's insanely popular in all regions of the world.

[Sarcasm]

GT is a game series that sells millions and is actually "QUALITY" something these poor 13 year old xbox kids don't understand.

[RockmanII7]

@9.4

"what a surprise....
the xbox fan is talking about sales"

LeonSKennedy4Life actually started talking about sales before KLUTCH, but that's ok because he is defending the PS3. I do agree that GT5 will sell like crazy, but don't make it seem like he brought up sales.

[Slient Knight 9]

uncharted 2 bundle deal and don't forget that in japan final fantasy 13 bundle deal gonna sell out

[ZombieAutopsy]

FF13 bundle in Japan will probally give ps3 a good boost.

[stuna1]

Chris you should just quit while you are ahead!!!!!

[Delta]

When was that Tard ever ahead?
Bots never win.

[InLaLaLand]

Chris should know his role and shut his mouth. While he is at it, Chris may as well shine his Halo: ODST disc real nice, turn it sideways and directly shove it up his candy a$$.

[chrisulloa]

Lol, do you guys always have to make gay references when insulting me? Tells me a lot about you, and it especially shows how weak your come-backs are. Pathetic.

[Droid Control]

... in 2012 belongs to Sony PS3.

[ZBlacktt]

Let me guess, is this CODMW2 related? I have yet to even look at this write up, lol. As the subject line alone needs a "insert facepalm.jpg here "

[Max Power]

does this guy know that Sony owns the Spiderman movies, and the fonts associated with it? I want to say they used it to bring public appeal after the successful movies, and I also thought that Sony is going to release a 250 gb bundle for $350.

[blackmagic]

Actually, Sony pays Marvel to allow them to make each Spiderman movie, Sony doesn't own Spiderman at all, they just lease him.

[creeping judas]

Marvel was recently purchased by Disney, and I think that is the main reason the PS3 font changed??? Maybe???

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

because Playstation 3 was too small when placed next to XBox.

Plus the PS3 was in desperate need of some rebranding. I don't think this will be the last time this happens this console generation. I think Microsoft will do it to a lesser extent with the launch of Natal.

[Sarcasm]

No Spiderman is published by Sony under Columbia Pictures. The whole Marvel making their own movies thing started with Iron Man.

[blackpanther25]

he said "Spiderman movies" not spiderman. Sony owns the Spiderman movies they made and the publishing rights. They lease the spiderman character and associates licences from marvel, but whatever they do with it is owned by Sony. Like Fox with X-man

[cmacdonald]

I dunno, history shows if they are priced similar the ps3 comes out on top. And I don't see many bargain hunters choosing a $400 MW2 unit + $50/live +$30/Play/charge kit + $100 wireless.

$580 + tax, what a bargain!

[soxfan2005]

Wireless isn't required to play online. Besides, many people don't have wi-fi in their homes anyway.

Also, the MW2 bundle includes the 250gb version of the Xbox 360 (not the standard 120gb), as well as a second controller and a copy of the MW2 game.

[The Tour Man]

According to...? And it still doesnt change the fact that wireless people will have to buy wifi to play online, not to mention the fee to play online.

[cyborg6971]

No wifi in most houses come on sox I suppose that these peeps still use the telegraph as well.

[silvacrest]

what internet provider does not include a wifi enabled router in there package now a-days? and even then, there so cheap to buy its not a issue

[cmacdonald]

Soxfan

I have no idea how many people as a percentage use wireless but it is gaining steam fast, although I don't use it because of how my condo is set up and I have the 20 GB ps3.

My next ps3 will use it though, not on my 360.

[04soldier]

I have one of the cheapest high speed internet providers. (AT&T $36/mo) And even they provide wireless modems. But you're right, you don't need wifi for online pay. Its a luxury.

However, the 360 does need Live to go online. No one buys COD MW for its single player. So that pushes that allready expensive bundle to $450 without tax.

[Karum]

Are you serious with the lack of wifi in homes statement?

I work in tech support for an ISP here in the UK and the majority of people calling in are trying to connect their devices wirelessly and we've been providing wireless routers to customers for the last few years at least. Granted it's mostly laptops and desktop pc's but to claim most people don't have wireless capability in their homes in this day and age is quite ridiculous.

You are correct in saying wifi is not needed for gaming though, that is very true indeed.

[jessupj]

My PC is 5 meters from my PS3, but I bought a wifi router because that was still the best option. The reason being my modem is very old and only has 1 port. Where I'm from they mainly sell 1 port modems. So I'd need to buy a whole new multiport modem if I wanted to connect my PS3 via cat5. Might be different in other places, but I'd imagine having wifi would be much more preferred and convenient.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

No gamer in their right mind would choose a 360 over a PS3 at this point. There's just no way.

It's like buying a Gamecube over a PS2. It just makes no sense.

Also...

...let's all lol at Wii.

: )

[jessupj]

While I do agree most gamers would and should choose a ps3 at this point in time, we have to consider the non-gamers. There will be a lot of non-gamers buying gaming products in the christmas season and as well all know most of these people will be very uneducated, most likely having done absolutely no research. Sadly, it won't matter that sony has a killer lineup, or the great value, or at least it won't make much of a difference. The company with the better price point and better marketing will win the day. It's unfair, but thanks to to the uneducated consumers, it's the sad reality.

Having said that, I think it will be pretty much even between ms and sony and that's a good thing. Healthy competition means us gamers win.

[Kratos19]

Nice cherry picking of US & UK, the only places where 360 is really ahead of PS3. Why not talk about worldwide?

[silvacrest]

and its a big if, consumers do a little research and find out about all the extra stuff you have to buy in order to play MW2 the way you want on the 360 e.g wifi adapter, $50 xbox live, charge and play kits (even arcades come with a wireless pad now) then the tides may turn

but as of today, i see the consoles like this, 360 owners like there FPS while PS3 owners like everything else, remember, just my opinion

[shutupandplay]

This is nothing new. People want 360`s. You give a kid a ps3 for christmas, you might as well give him a lump of coal.

[Obama]

Funny considering kids don't really want a 360 according to survey.

[Lord_Ranos]

Delusional?

[The Tour Man]

As in "people" you mean pre-mature kids? You're right since kids like yourself belong in the xsh1t community

[cyborg6971]

not even close to coal but if you give a kid a 360 it's like giving him a child molesting uncle with herpes. The gift that keeps on making you buy moar sh!t for it.

[Double07]

Lmfao at cyborg's comment.

+ Bubbles

[ZBlacktt]

So what do you call a system that breaks so often?

[Death2494]

Hmm somehow i doubt you've been keeping up with the news lately.
"Especially in America......" ummm highly unlikely give how we have really recovered from the recession going on. Sorry mate but no dice with you "fanboy" article.

[Sevir04]

the PS3 has sold the least ammount of consoles every year around the holiday season because of it's high price...... it's now mainstream.. at 299 it's over.. nearly 500k new buyers purchased a PS3 in the month of september.. blkack friday will prove to be very big. last black friday Sony sold 370k and then 750k for december... this time taht number will be bigger. I'm sure it'll be 800k and then 2 million come december. the new price point and some very huge marketing will push this system to new highs, Sony's got it this year... No modern warfare will change that... especially when the game is has such a huge fanbase. more than likely it'll sell to peopel who already own the COD4... and that all..

You get articles like this when you do crystal meth.

[bullaaaa]

"We predict, however, that the 360 will come out on top this Christmas for two very simple reasons: the price, and Modern Warfare 2"

Well kind sir, you can take your prediction and shove it right where the sun dont shine. As witnessed during the release of Halo: ODST and CoD:5 WaW, Xbox 360 has a very minimal sales spike during the release of big name multiplayer games (360's life support). This is because people who wanted a 360 to play those games already got one. We will see a slight sales increase in 360 when MW2 releases, but nothing extraordinary.

This article also fails because it completely neglects Sony's strategy for holidays: aggressive marketing push for PS3 with phenomenal line up of games, starting with Uncharted 2. We will check back after Christmas and see which console comes out on top, and Gameswire better start practicing how to eat crow.

[Flewid638]

Greatest line in the history of forum posts.

[Its_The_Truth]

so with the 360 having maybe 2 exclusives the entire year of 09' they think MW2 will help. LMFAO wow even though MW2 is also on PS3 to these guys i guess they think its not. in one month the PS3 generated more AAA exclusives than the 360 done in the entire year. Face it 360 fanboys the PS3's time has come. PS3 PWNS 09' and 10' and so on and so forth

[ps3hasnogamess]

No one will be able to get thier hands on PS3's this holiday season, and the only one's who will spend the time in ps3 are Blu-Ray movie watchers.

More bad news for Sony and ps3fanboys.... sad this

lmao..

[abc1233]

right, lets all stick our middle fingers up at the ps3's obvious win over the 360 recently both in quality exclusives and sales.

[stuna1]

Is that what you get every year a lump of coal? To burn in your furnace also known as assboxpleasefixme?

[electricgta]

almost everybody i know who owns a 360 and not a ps3 is actually buying a ps3 this christmas lol

[silvacrest]

the price and exclusives available speak for them selfs

[monkey602]

Since release a few of my friends bought a PS3.

Since the price drop a lot of my friends bought a PS3.

A number of them even owned 360's before hand.

From personal experience - Only 2 of my friends who went on to buy both of the consoles preffer the Xbox, Okay that's their decision you can't fault that. The rest are happier with the PS3.

The PS3 is finally gaining it's momentum. It's going to take Microsoft doing something incredible to stump that, And all of 2009 was a pathetic effort on their part.

I could obviously be wrong but I can't see that trend ending in the last few weeks of the year.

A large number of people are going to be waiting until the holidays to get their PS3's too, concidering how late in the year it is now.

[K-man00]

The PS3 will dominate. i don´t know about the US though.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Why do the ChatBots think 'MW2' is xBox 360 only??? IT IS NOT!!! ;-D

Anyway about Sales(Zzzzzzzzzz)

PS3 = $299 USA

xBox 360 = $199 USA + 99% of the internet Media on it's side :-/

Wii = $199 USA

Hardly a fair Fight is it???

Saying that the $299 'PS3' 'BEAT' the $199 'xBox 360' in the USA last Month!!;-D + It 'BEAT' the 'Wii' to!!;-P

The 'xBox 360' has NEVER beat the 'Wii' in the USA!!! MEGA-FAIL!!! ;-D

[HOFFMAN99]

FAr more to offer by PS3 and evidence of its victory this holiday season

[Optical_Matrix]

I'm not too sure. With Christmas coming up, what console selling games does the Xbox 360 have? MW2 is not a system seller as it's multiplat. Even with a bundle, it will only sell to the most diehard of fans.
PS3 is at an affordable price and with all it's advertising, I'm pretty sure Eyepet for example, will attract the kiddy crowd.
Being honest, it's between Wii and PS3 this christmas if I'm honest. Next year however it's a fierce one as all 3 systems will have their motion tech available to a mass market.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

this article isn't presenting a bundle that interests me, nor one that convinces me it will do better than the PS3. Well,...maybe MW2, but that is all.

I would like to have a bundle so I can play my XBox out the box (heheh). With few titles of interest, maybe I should wait until next year. A Mass Effect 2 bundle would sell.

[Counter_ACT]

Surprise surprise, another site making a prediction not based on statistics, but what they reckon. The 360 price cut has been in effect for ages now and the PS3 is still outselling it weekly.

[multipayer]

Like 360 has never had a good year? As far as sales, I guess it is possible 360 sales more games in 09.. IMO this year easily goes to PS3 for quality content. Yet, next year is going to be alot more competitive in that regard with Halo Reach, Alan Wake, Mass Effect and whatever Rare pulls out of their magic british teeth, going up against PS3s new wave.

but only just your mum.

[gamingisnotacrime]

that is not a holiday month just in case they dont know. The PS3 this holiday will sell huge numbers, the kind of numbers that will make the install base argument against PS3 useless, and Most of those sales wont be PS3 owners replaciong their broken PS3's it will be new owners, coming to the PS brand, and with the bunch of games coming out, they will receive a pleasent welcome.

[quarkist]

Competition is tough without an argument, but PS3 is more likely to sell out xbox360 in the US and also globally. Lot of people still see Sony as an elite hardware manufactor, and ps2 performance trust. I personally do not like xbox philosophy, paying for online gaming, and low quality hardware. I do not say xbox 360 is inferior to PS3 or whatever, but I think when you pay for the game, why one the earth I pay separately to go online. And, I just can't stand with low quality hardware.

I like wii, but really really miss HD part. I hope soon WiiHD will come out, and i gonna forget then PS3 and Xbox360 :)

[cliffyboy21]

No matter what bunndle bundle your getting you got to remember what else your getting with your bundle? RROD! either way you look at it it's still a regular old 360 just MS trying to make a couple of tweaks hear or there and they still can't get it right when they should of just started over from scratch with a new model knowing they have the money for it.

[TheDesperadoKING]

It's LITERALLY OVER for Xbox. This isn't fanboy hyperbole, this is literally it. They may still get some good "exclusives", until they come to PS3 that is, but Microsoft have screwed up bad.

Better luck next next next gen, if you even survive that long with your awful business model, because Sony'll have the next two in the bag.

[Unicron]

Hmm... cool? All I know is the PS3 has had a crazy lineup this year that has kept me swamped in titles. And considering I STILL have about 8 titles to buy between now and March... my poor poor wallet.

You guys can play sales all you want, I'm playing one of the best lineups of games in a long, long time.

[chisox100]

360 outsold PS3 on halloween....thats the only holliday it will win this year...you know why it won? It dressed up like the RROD for a party and died

[tordavis]

The real winner this holiday is the gamers. If you disagree, please state why?

[Marty8370]

Crapbox is getting owned on a weekly basis by PS3 & Wii even a 10 year old PS2 can beat Crapbox in Japan(LOL). Thats the facts.

Time to:

Jump Out, Play B3yond.

[Bobbie001]

If the 360 sells a lot more than the ps3 coming holiday season.. Its proof that most costumers don't always know what they are buying.
Sony has had a big problem in the pas with the ps3. Thats advertisment.. Everybody knew the ps2.. But when the ps3 came around it was like.. Hm no I think xbox is better because it has halo.. While ps3 has games which blow (IMO) the halo franchise out of the water (uncharted) Consumers just never heard about uncharted..

[jessupj]

If people were completely educated, I think the majority would pick the ps3 over the 360.

Like I've said before.....

If you knew, you'd buy a PS3.

[DaChinPin]

Here is a gem I found while looking through youtube and I remembered this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Now with that shown, I am a PS3 fan. i just found it hilarious how that song just screams no future sight at all. The PS3 now has fixed all of the problems in the song, oh and lets not forget, Blu-ray IS needed as the next disc-based format is Blu-ray. Movies will all come out in Blu-ray from now until a better disc-based format OR digital distribution really takes off. Anyways this just shows, whenever people doubt the PS3, it always does what they don't expect it to do...Shut them all up. Have a nice day and hopefullu not a lot of fanboys come rip me to shreds for stating facts.

[Tripl3seis]

I need a 360 so that I could warm up my feet while I play the god of war collection and uncharted 2 on my ps3 this holiday lol.

[AliTheBrit19]

Probably

But It would be no surprise I guess.

[cyborg6971]

Brit you know what would surprise me if you had pubes, and I'm not talking about the ones in your mouth.

[horndog]

The DesperadoKing

" WRONG!
It's LITERALLY OVER for Xbox. This isn't fanboy hyperbole, this is literally it. They may still get some good "exclusives", until they come to PS3 that is, but Microsoft have screwed up bad.

Better luck next next next gen, if you even survive that long with your awful business model, because Sony'll have the next two in the bag."

I guess you missed sony's finacial report for last quarter where they stated that they are 5 Billion in the hole since the arrival of the ps3 and are losing on every ps3 sold. Don't forget that ps2 sales are dying down too and it will be a long , long time before they even start turning a profit out of the ps3. Other than that everything looks good on the gamers side as Sony and MS will battle it out this Hollliday.

[schommerc]

The Vast Vast majority of people who have wanted to play call of duty played one of the last two iterations and already own a console. Only the die-hards are getting this bundle, pretty much ruling the bundle out of any serious competition.

Wii or PS3
lol "just throw it in the bag"

[cyclindk]

This is definitely a possibility, but I do wonder what the expressions of some parents will be when little thirteen year old Billy-bada$$ rips open his new 360 Mod War 2 bundle for Christmas, hooks it up and then says okay mom, now I just need another 50 bucks to play online!

I'm sure they'll dish it out, but they HAVE to be like, "wtf!"

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

It will be close. It won't be a slaughter like last year. The 360 beat the ps3 by a million consoles sold during December.

[redsquad]

How can they "only just" 'own' something?
Is something is 'owned' (an expression I loathe by the way), then that implies a 'resounding' win to me.

[hagla]

I see no reason why the xbox 360 would win this battle when it has had half the amount of exclusives this year and also half the quality on hte most part. Also with the 250Gb PS3 being released in just a few days time there will be even more reason to be playing a PS3 this holiday...

[xg-ei8ht]

Halo3 MLG Pro

Yeah, what was the price of the two back then.

The way i see it is this.

The PS3 is heading for GLOBAL DOMINATION.

The wii is slowly starting to wain.
The 360 price cuts ain't doing nothing.

The PS3 is on the up, more people are buying HDTV, want to watch the best quality films on them, i.e Blu-ray. There's free online, free demo's, Streaming,BBC-I, Tons of exclusives, Hardware is sweet.

In 2010, PS3 will pass 360 sales. You already know this.

PS3 4.5mill behind. and that gap is closing fast.

I think we all know the outcome.

Feel free to PLAY BEYOND.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

LMAO. Do you just make things up while you go? The ps3 slim has seen a steady decline since launch. And the 360 is up by a cool 7 million consoles dude. Both Microsoft and Sony has confirmed this. Sorry to break your bubble but if you like you can continue to live in a fantasy land.

http://www.neong.co.cc/2009...

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

Get pwned kid.

[Nicaragua]

Your both talking like idiots.

xg-ei8ht, most of what your saying is right but to pap on about GLOBAL DOMINATION makes you sound like a chump. The console war in terms of sales leans in the favour of the Xbox 360 by a good few million and i would be very surprised if the PS3 took the lead next year, either way its certainly not GLOBAL DOMINATION.

Halo3 MLG Pro, your just a tool. The Xbox 360 is a tragic piece of consumer-raping hardware and its knobs like you who suck it up and ask for more. The PS3 will eventually become the market leading next gen console due to it being a superior device with better hardware, game devleper support and a competitive price tag. For you to think that its not is pure denial.

[artsaber]

Is Microsoft giving away 360s for free this Holiday season or something?

[McDaygo]

I don't see the 360 "owning" this holiday. The $299 PS3 Price-point speaks for itself. I'd put my money on both consoles doing well but with the PS3 coming out ahead. I would also like to see a bit more from the 360 in 2010. The PS3 is definitely the most tempting system at the MOMENT, but we shall see. We shall see.

[TheDesperadoKING]

It will probably sell more than all the Forzas LTDs combined...first WEEK. Then it'll go on to outsell all the 360 Halos, including ODST, Wars and Reach COMBINED when it settle down as LTD.

Gran Turismo is a mammoth. It is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAY bigger than Halo, Mario and all those other mascot games.

IT WILL DESTROY YOU

[xg-ei8ht]

Chill dude, the part about Global Domination was fun:) go on admit it:)

Do i think the 360 is 7million infront, Not on your nelly.

Halo3 MLG Pro you really trust those numbers don't you, the 360 ones.

ROFL.

[Nicaragua]

Yeah, it is funny. But the facts you stated in your post were fine to prove your point, dont dilute the quality of what you are saying with fanboy exagerations because that just makes the chumps stick their head in the sand even further.