Unreal Tournament 3 to use" Gears Plus Visuals" with scans

In the latest edition of oxm(official xbox magazine), New details have been unveiled on Epics next big title. The game will support 16 to 20 players online. UT3 features 18 different vehicles to drive. The Unreal Tournament weapons you know and love as well as many new weapons been added .The sizes of the maps have also been expanded.The game will also feature "Gears of War PLUS" graphics. We are not sure what exactly that means, but sounds very interesting. Continue to view scans.

[TriggerHappy]

Epic is pushing for another evolution in graphics, damn, cant wait.

[gta_cb]

yeh i know what you mean, and there not a MASSIVE company/developers.
man i do truely admire there work with Gears, i think its amazing, so with this i am deffinatly going to be walking down to Blockbusters and renting this.... or maybe i should just buy it =P

[Systematrix]

"It's Gears on crack. Cover is for wimps!"

If it is even slightly better than Gears graphically then this game is gonna be off-the-hook sick.

[NextGen24Gamer]

I love all the Unreals....and this one with 16-20 players online will be GREAT....and even if the Graphics weren't up to snuff with Gears...I would still be excited...but with the announced Gears of War Plus graphics....I'm super excited....I love my Halo 3 Beta....But there is nothing like Unreal...Fast Pace shooter action with beautiful graphics....I love Gears too....but all 3 while are FPS games....they play very very differently and are top notch at what they do.

[gta_cb]

i agree, my last Unreal game purchased was Unreal Tournament 2004, yeh i know a couple of years ago now, but i still love the way it plays and have always liked playing the "Unreal" games, ALTHOUGH i have never played one on the console before....

[LoveHateTragedy]

so I'm not surprised with that comment. Can't wait to try it out. Epic likes to run their own servers, so I'm wondering if they're going to have different online features for PS3 and 360.

[TheXgamerLive]

Atleast on the Xbox 360 version, to be honest I can't see that happening on the ps3 version, not with the troubles there having and as usual all ps3 versions of games being delayed for months and months.

Ha Ha kidding, the ps3 version as well as the Xbox 360 version should look and play incredible. I think we'll all have a hell of a time, in fact what would be great is if we could all play each other if in fact they do use there own servers, but i don't see this happening, but it would add to the fun.

This game is going to be intense.

[DJ]

If they had a Playstation vs. Xbox team frags, I guarantee millions would be on. =]

[mellowspaz]

I'm more interested in playing this multiplayer than halo 3, I wouldn't mind some ps3 vs 360 action

[gta_cb]

yeh i would love to play on my Xbox 360 against people on their PS3s

[Plancy]

Are they sure this is coming to PS3? All they talk about is PC and Xbox360...

[Lord Anubis]

yeah, they have a PS3 version already running.

[LoveHateTragedy]

I wouldn't expect them to let gamers know it's on PS3 as well.

[Plancy]

Ah, I see. Lol. They do mention PC tho

[gta_cb]

thats because MS are trying to push "games for windows" and well like stated above they wouldnt say this is going on there competitions console aswell.

[Odiah]

Just jokin :P

[gta_cb]

omg when i read the first bit, my mouth dropped in amazement that someone actually thought that lol.

[EDIT]

@ Antan (#6.1)

yeh when i was reading that, i could see it happening lol, would be soo funny.

[Plancy]

I wonder how good the PS3 version is running, and if it could match the xbox360 in visuals.

[Antan]

Either way it doesn`t matter, games looks far too quick to notice such anomalities! oohh look at that texture... BBBBOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! Night and god bless.

[techie]

Well the PS3 version has been on show for a long time now in demoes at events.

[Plancy]

Is there any gameplay videos?

[techie]

Yeah you should be able to find some on youtube. Let me do a scout for you :)

http://www.gametrailers.com...

That's very early...it was on show at GDC this year. Ah here you go http://www.youtube.com/watc...

All PS3...don't think they've shown off 360 yet. Remember Unreal is Epic's showcase for what they can do on the PS3, they readjusted the engine to support the spu's and get more out of them.

[VirtualGamer]

Platforms and Visuals Interview HD Jan 29, 2007 http://www.gametrailers.com...

GT - Whats it been like for you to work on the PlayStation 3?

Mark Reins - It's great, it's a awesome machine. Lots of power. It's great having that hard drive so you can have downloadable content. Ahh, it's great that everyone is capable of going online, Sony is doing a good job there and we're really happy with the consoles and UT the whole idea you know we just confirmed Xbox 360 today for UT and the reason we have been pushing it more as a Playstation 3 title is because its our showcase for PlayStation too that shows off and proves our technology on that platform and by the time we ship this game we will be a fantasic, amazing, great performance on PlayStation 3 and all the things you expect out of a UT title. So obviously we are happy with that platform.

GT: Do you think you will be able to eclipse the visuals of Gears of War on the PlayStation 3?

Mark Reins - Ummmm, I don't think its really a matter of eclipsing. I think we will be able to accomplish great visuals for UT. I don't think its really.....there not directly compariable because we're not doing Gears of War for the Playstation 3.

Trailer 2 HD Aug 23, 2006 (gameplay footage)
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Trailer 3 HD Jan 26, 2007
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Be great to see what they have at E3 this year.

Edit: Opps looks like Deep beat me, oh well I had some extra ones so all good.

[jacs813]

Read the article within the pics, you'll see that they say "unreal tournament will make gears look ugly". Seems pretty interesting to me, since gears is the best looking game out for consoles.

[Merovee]

Gears was built on the Unreal engine itself which Epic has since improved.

[gta_cb]

yeh i see what you mean, i think Gears is amazing, and IF this game can make Gears look ugly, WITHOUT taking up all the space available which means no or very short campaign, then i would rather them take the Bungie aproach, Gameplay > Graphics.

[Dr Pepper]

The game will have melee like Unreal Championship 2? I haven't heard about it being included but it made UC2 soooooo much better.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

This only on my maybe list. I love a great looking game as much as anyone else but if there is not a great single player experience to go along with the multiplayer then I cant really justify it. This series is not known for its single player.

[Cartesian3D]

anyway Gears isnt PERFECT.. some games like uncharted or heavenly sword must have more particles than Gear's guys , because in GeOW they hadnt CLOTH or any joint(like ring,zip... ) ..

in Gears EPIC use so many triks to make their game looks better.. and turn selfshadowing off in game..

Unreal 3 will be definitely better than Gears in term of graphic and Multiplayer(hope).. but in gameplay I think Gears is AMAZING in shooter games on consoles....

PS3 version will support mouse and keyboard so I will pick that one

[power of Green]

I Wonder what GoW 2 will look like.

I wouldn't bring up uncharted or heavenly sword, not even in the same ball park. Doesn't one of them look like a more cartoony Tomb Raider?.

CAPS LOCKS you Idiot you take my bubbles for saying the same thing you said?. I was respobding to #11 why didn't you respond to him you moron.

This doesn't prove sh*t i doubt the PS3 is more capable than a top notch PC and the 360 meaning a doubt the PS3 version will match the PC/360.

Haze look "pretty good" can it offer anything that will make it a AAA?.

These are very old pics.

http://www.huxleygame.com/i...

http://www.huxleygame.com/i...

http://www.huxleygame.com/i...

http://www.huxleygame.com/i...

http://www.huxleygame.com/i...

I doubt Haze will be the milestone of FPS's.

[CAPS LOCK]

there is no need to mention the ps3 games that you claim to be not graphically great. this is just a sin of fear, so keep your fears to yourself.

this would prove that gears is capable on ps3. "Gears plus graphics".

[fenderputty]

That uncharted and heavenly sword don't look as good.

Whatever helps you sleep at night man. lol

[power of Green]

My eyes do the talking me mind listens. lol

http://www.gamershell.com/p...

(((DJ))) no fool i chose the latest gameplay i could find and used this site's search engine to find the sourse. More excuses; emagine that!. Still looks like sh*t its understandable why its hype is so great its cutscenes are confusing the masses with what the game really is, a cool button masher.

[DJ]

http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...
http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

I can't believe HS is still in Alpha status.

[techie]

Pog you are a very very angry person. And you need to stop, or something awful might happen one day. You can be quite disturbing how seriously you take this little "war". So much so that you start insulting some games that are pulling of some things never seen on consoles....visuals beyond what has been seen before.

It's sad to see you think so much of it, it really sounds like your destroying yourself.

[freeza]

haze allready looks better than gears hell it all most looks like crysis

[neogeo]

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[MK_Red]

Unreal has always been the best FPS (Specially multiplayer). While Quake 3 was superb, original UT was a true masterpiece which really evolved with UT2004 and IT3/2007 looks to be the ultimate FPS.

[silent ninja]

considering its coming after gears its expected for the game to surpass it....besides gow looks outdated now

[Dr Pepper]

Are you saying that it looks outdated compared to UT or in general?
Because Gears is still one fantastic looking game compared to the others that have been released and is still holding up against titles that have been announced.

I agree that people are expecting it to be better than gears (graphically) because it's coming out later, which I think it will.

[bootsielon]

Since it was announced to be on PS3 initially, it's probably the lead platform. So of course it's gonna look as well as the 360 version, if not better.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Why is everyone comparing consoles...this is about a GAME. Gears could be done on either console. it would be optimized and ran in different ways but it would still be the same game. Their wont be any game that cant be done on the other console. Their will be games that excel at certain things better than the other consoles version but that's minimal and insignificant. If this looks better than gears with 16-20 people I'll sh8t myself...

[techie]

I know funny isnt it

[popup]

Well said. This "Mine's better than yours" has been going on since 8bit so I doubt it will go away.

Exclusives (that remain so) will always be impossible on the other machine cos they aint gonna make it for the other machine. If the game is that good and you want to play it then buy the other machine - simple.

[Bhai]

...Epic's "Gemini" threading system i.e. total process on two-threads/twin-threads, as Mark Rein once described. This means that basically both games are supposed to be easily do-able on a 2-core PC. This means that there isn't much next-gen about them...so why we're excited?...

...The answer is that "YES", Gears is all graphics...that's it...in your face reality...no physics, no debris, no deformation, no intact bodies, no procedural synthesis, no fluid mechanics...just all GPU work, all normal-mapped textures. Upon that, there are very limited weapons and vehicular combat is almost non-existent !!! Then woldn't be that the same for UT-3 ?...

...In UT-3's case the answer is "NO". "But hey, doesn't it use the same Gemini threading system ?", you ask...and I say, yes it does. But the point is that, as Mark Rein himself said, the PS3's version of UT-3 is specially being tailor made, it uses a great level of physics that both 360 and PC can't do(he said after a year when the PC gets a thorough PPU, it will be the same as PS3). As the PS3 can handle much more threads, and visually the game relizes totally on normal-mapping, so there won't be any visual difference between all 3 versions. But PS3's version will have the ultimate upper-hand with the physics !!!

[Cartesian3D]

my poor english doesnt let me to say anythin I want..

u said well about Gears graphic..

EPIC did well on 360 with gears.. and now its Ps3's turn.. hope to see a day that they use almost cell cores for their games and show its real power for processing physics and other stuff...

[DJ]

were asked about how they could possibly match the graphics seen in Gears, and they stated that it wasn't anything too impressive, nor impossible. Factor 5 has been pretty vocal about the limitations of Unreal Engine 3.

What Unreal Engine brings to the table isn't technological wizardry, but rather a focused pipeline and ease-of-use.

[bung tickler]

don't even pretend that the ps3 can do things that a pc cant... thats just plain stupid. any pc using a multi-core proc, a decent amount of ram, and a new video card thats dx10 compatible can blow away both the 360 and the ps3. such a fool you are to say stupid things like that. the cpu's in pcs aren't stripped down piles of poo like the cpus in the 360 and the ps3 and the ps3's ppu's are total crap compared to a fully functional core. i mean sh1t intel is about to ship 8 core procs where each core can do 2 threads, thats 16 fvcking threads at once... with each thread being more capable when it comes to AI, physics or anything than the ps3's cell as each core is capable of out-of-order processing among other things stripped from the ps3 version cell. THIS IS PURE FACT DEAL WITH IT YOU FANBOY FVCKS!

[TheMART]

You Sony guys crack me up, with DJ always in front of the group of mindless droids.

Gears wouldn't be anything too impressive. Right. So why there isn't any game like that on the PS3 yet? The PS3 had a full year extra development time on games since it was delayed from Spring 2006 to Spring 2007 in Europe, it's 6 months out in USA/Jap. It should have launced just after the 360, so don't give the crap that the PS3 games have to come in a half year because Gears also got 1 year after the 360 launch. We're a year after the initial PS3 wannabe launch.

The PS3 should have it's Gears by now. It hasn't got it. Resistance is a mediocore shooter, even COD2 360 launch game looks better. The only thing you Sony fanboys are shouting about is 40 players online. If that wasn't there it would have nothing to be 'proud' about.

Thus. sssssss you Sony fanboys talking about the future always and keep saying wait wait like Sony is. Lets see the proof. It isn't here. Unreal Tournament 3 was first only announced on the PS3 because Epic wouldn't want to hurt Gears sales on the 360. But development these days is done on the PC and then optimized for the specific consoles. Thus, it doesn't have the PS3 as a leading platform and 'ports' to 360/PC. These are different developments after the initial development on PC.

Shall we wait and see what the PS3 delivers this time? I had it with your future predictions, because all of the ones you made in the past are pretty much proven wrong, with the 360 getting the better versions of multiplatform games

[techie]

Why should it have its Gears now Mart. Right after launch? Are you a serious fellow Mart. It took a year to get Gears on the 360, yet the ps3 is meant to have had it. We know the titles that will be coming to the ps3, yet they should be OUT now to win this race...they should be out before the 360 got its exclusive title....that was visually impressive. Well Motorstorm is very visually impressive...just go and ask the devs, go and ask the fans of games...it's GFX are very impressive, has incredible lighting, gr8 textures...what are the two most impressive games this gen? Gears and Motorstorm. That's the conclusion Mart.

Mart I just feel that when the games do come, you're going to be stuck for words....saying things like "well it's too late now...yes they look good, but but..."

You sound as if you're a religious preacher Mart...out to bring in the masses into your campaign, and show them the holy book. It's called extremism, it sounds like facism...it sounds insane. Alladin Sane...We see the games....we're not saying Wait until we know what the games are called. The games are there...they're in production, we've seen footage. They just haven't released. Remember about all that screaming about Gears? "Wait until Gears comes out, we'll show you". Well it came out Mart....and you were saying wait wait wait. Dejavous aye? Turn on the light in your 'ead youngen.

[bung tickler]

heres why, when it was the ps2 and the original xbox the ps2 was ok but the moment the xbox launched it had better graphics. it was the more powerful system, you could see it from day one, it had its 'gears' at launch, HALO. the fact of the matter is the ps3 had a full year of extra dev time on all of its launch games, a full year! games like r:fom had been in development for the ps3 just as long as gears was for the 360 yet it wasnt as good. just about all of the ps3 launch games had been in development as long as gears of war was yet NONE of them looked better.

if the ps3 was truely a far better system like sony said it was it would have shown from day one.

it didnt.

the ps3 is NOT better than the 360.

deal with it.

360 = ps3.

the only difference this gen will be what the devs do with each system.

[techie]

WHo said which system was better? WHo is even talking about that? We know the ps3 is hard to develop for, it's common knowledge...so it not having its "Gears" directly after launch is a given. These games which you have said havent come out have been in development for 3-4 years. Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Lair...it's not like they've been sitting on their laurels. Sony Gamer's Day...Xplay lad: "i can honestly say, I saw 4 games for the ps3, which I don't think could run on the 360, at least yet anyway".

Now I'm not saying I agree with him (he's usually very damning of the Ps3) BUT the 4 games he mentions are not out...yet they've been in dev for years, so they are still First generation titles. The Ps3 will bring out its big guns Summer/Fall.

And all this "consoles have to have their best games out as soon as they launch"... is nonsense and you know it.

What games excited me after E3 2005/6? What were the games I wanted? Was it Resistance? NO. Was it Motorstorm? No not particularily...pretty trailer an' all.

No it was Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, MGS4, FFXIII, WarDevil, The Getaway...Lair not so much. After seeing those games at E3...THOSE were the games I was impressed with, those were the ones I couldn't wait to see on my TV. Yet they are not out yet. This criticising of "wait"....you interpret it as if people are saying "wait" for an unknown game. No people are not. They are saying WAIT until these games, which we know about; RELEASE.

To below: I completely agree mate (il change it :) ) It's all down to the devs. These consoles are really unknown entities....because TBH NEITHER have produced their best...they still have so much room to grow....especially with a greater emphasis on multithreading. I know that the games I'm looking forward to are first/second party...and once those first gen games are out, maybe we'll have a better idea of what at least the ps3 can do now and in the future.

[bung tickler]

you misquoted the "xplay lad" he said "for the first time i saw ps3 games i do not believe could be running on the 360, at least at this point and time" so... yeah... "at least at this point and time" again 360 = ps3 its all about what the devs do. and remember this was a sony only event. he hasn't even seen what microsoft has up its sleaves. and while ps3 fanboys have been WAITING and WAITING for decent games 360 owners have been PLAYING them AND have MORE (talking sheer numbers here) quality games to look forward too. 360 owners have their cake NOW and LATER, ps3 owners just LATER... maybe.

@below. sonys dev kits were out long before that, just a quick search on google found that they had dev kits as early as june 9th 2005 for their first party devs AND a lot of the early coding isn't done on the system itself... the FINAL kits are used to work out bugs but that doesn't mean that that is when development started. both the 360 and the ps3 had kits and close to final expected system specs to 1st party devs at about the same time. thus development started at about the same time.

linkies : http://www.gamesindustry.bi... http://www.gamespot.com/new...

none the less the only point i really am trying to make is this:

both the 360 and the ps3 are ruffly EQUAL when it comes to gaming power. the only real differences will come from how well developers use that power. it wont be because one systems hardware is better than the others. and the reason i make this point is that... I AM SICK OF SONY FANBOYS SAYING THE PS3 IS GOD. IT IS NOT. you dont see xbox fanboys running around saying the 360 is 5x better than the ps3... even when on average current games look a little better so far on the 360...

THE 360 IS EQUAL TO THE PS3 END OF STORY! BOTH WILL HAVE GOOD GAMES, BOTH WILL HAVE GOOD GRAPHICS, AND BOTH WILL BLOW AS$ WHEN COMPAIRED TO THE PC A YEAR FROM NOW. THESE ARE FACTS! YOU CAN NOT DISPUTE THEM, IT IS SIMPLY HOW IT IS!

yet every day i find myself reading stupid posts from stupid fanyboys trying to say otherwise.

[VirtualGamer]

Your really belive that? I count developement time from when developers get final developement kits.

MS delivered final dev kits to Epic end of August 2005

Developers will continue to receive software updates but now they are working with final hardware, which means they can obtain final benchmarks to fully optimize their code and take advantage of the Xbox 360's three symmetrical cores (each running at 3.2 GHz) and custom ATI graphics chip.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

Sony delivered final development kits in May 2006

"Developers were just getting final PS3 hardware [around E3], which is a long time before ship," Rein told Eurogamer TV in an exclusive interview now showing. "Developers did not have finished Xbox 360 hardware last year at E3. So Sony's actually maybe in a better place vis-a-vis Microsoft in relation to launch."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So they did not get a extra year only about 3 to 4 months jump with final kits over MS for launch.

As far as Gear of War is concerned, Epic had final dev kits August 2005 and Gears went Gold in November 2006. So 15 months with final development kit.

To be fair then PS3 developers got final kits in May 2006 so 15 months later would be August 2007.

EDIT: I see so PS3 developers where getting their first dev kits in June 2005 and 360 devs where getting their final dev kits 2 months later. I wonder when 360 devs got their first kits? A quick search shows March 2004.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

[Bloodmask]

THE 360 IS EQUAL TO THE PS3 END OF STORY! BOTH WILL HAVE GOOD GAMES, BOTH WILL HAVE GOOD GRAPHICS, AND BOTH WILL BLOW AS$ WHEN COMPAIRED TO THE PC A YEAR FROM NOW. THESE ARE FACTS! YOU CAN NOT DISPUTE THEM, IT IS SIMPLY HOW IT IS!

yet every day i find myself reading stupid posts from stupid fanyboys trying to say otherwise.

I must say that Bloody is very educated on how the industry works. Technology moves so quickly especially in electronics. I would say that the technology will be outdated even sooner than a year. It is impossible to futureproof a system for 10 yrs. Its just propaganda. A new graphics card comes out every few months. Also, the processors in both the 360 and the PS3 only have a fraction of the power of their PC counterparts, even the cell. Do you really think they would put the same parts( including the cell) that are in a 5000 dollar high end PC in a console and sell it for 300 to 600 dollars? Look at the technology of the PS2 or xbox compared to todays standards. All BS. The PS3 and 360 could very well still be selling in 10yrs, but the PC will have eclipsed both of them.

[FeralPhoenix]

Bloody diarrhea & bloodmask, lol are you 2 "Blood Brothers", well anyway I agree your logic makes sense to me....if PS3 was so much better than the 360 it would show us NOW, they are both great consoles....the only differences over the life cycle in terms of the games will be based on the talent of the dev's to get the most out of each platform. -YES its obvious the architecture/setup (design) of both consoles are very different but the CAPABILITY OF THE SPECS themselves are so close its not really going to be a "BIG" factor in "WHY" over the life cycle game "A" might look better than game "B" on either platform. -NO, 99% of the reason for this will be because of a combination of dev "A" raw talent, experience, hard work/dedication, budget, and of course the "vision"/type/genre game that he chose to make.

This was not the case with the Xbox vs. PS2, -Xbox was a "small" leap as far as the capability of the spec's were concerned which is why launch games were marginally better looking and over the life cycle "most" games looked better on Xbox. -The funny thing is we continue to argue spec's even when their very close this gen and yet last gen it DID NOT MATTER. -PS2 LIBRARY IS WHAT MADE IT POPULAR (still) and while Xbox on basis of percentage had just as many great games(if not more IMO), who can deny that with so many thousands of games that there was plenty for every single type of gamer known to man. With development time and money increasing, we won't see great AAA exclusives every month, but make no mistake about it....This "WAR" will be decided by who ever can deliver the most/BEST, highly anticipated exclusives...the only catch is that just when you say "ah ha look at game "A" on 360", along comes game "B" on the PS3, and so on, and so on. At present I would definitely say the pressure is on Sony to hit a big HOMERUN; can they deliver? of course they "can", but talk is cheap (I do see some stuff that looks promising) -Now I'm just waiting to "SEE" IF THEY WILL hit the ball out of the park!

[ilovepswii60]

u r goin on lyk 360 didnt wait for games. before gears and oblivion you were styll stuck playing kameo and perfect dark. both looked lyk sh@t

[omansteveo]

At my work we have the ps3 version dated for jan/feb while PC and 360 are coming out in september this year

[Blasphemy]

Good stuff i cannot wait for this game.

[Vip3r]

I can't wait for this game!!

[id dot entity]

The images the scans are showing are simply amazing. I think this will be the number one Live title for 2k7/2k8.

[sumfood4u]

This was the First Game that really got me into FPS/3D! 1st FPS game I played was Duck~Hunt!

[THAMMER1]

XBOX live

The 360 joystick is AAA+++

Achivent points

*!!!RUMBLE!!!*

If I owned both I would buy the 360 version hands down. Too bad the PS3 dose not have an exclusive game that is this hot.

[Weed]

I'll be going for the Ps3 version. Mouse/keyboard > Thumbsticks