Nintendo needs content, reason why profits are falling

Nintendo DPad writes:
"Iwata has recently commented on Nintendo's earning reports released yesterday. However, the reason why profits are falling as well as the reason why the price cut wasn't a huge boost was because of content."

[Product]

Man it is true that Nintendo software line up this year has been a drab affair. Last year was way better software wise, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Brawl, Animal Crossing. This year it has been Punch-Out!! and Wii Sports Resort.

New Super Mario Bros will be huge, but it is odd Nintendo didn't have anything for the spring time released.

[snipermk0]

Like hell yea Nintendo needs content!!

[mal_tez92]

Smash Brothers Brawl and Zelda are the only real good ones, I do play a lot of SSBB. Mario Kart Wii was disappointing, and I hate mini games like Wii Sports.

For adult gamers, the Wii offers nothing in terms of violent killing games.

[mikeslemonade]

Unless it's Mario I probably will not play it cause it's not HD. The game could be a 9 and I won't play it.

[kindi_boy]

Wii? what is wii?

[rockleex]

Not that I wanted it, but we all knew it was going to happen.

[ChickeyCantor]

Its hilarious,
Cause Back in the GCN/N64 days developers cried that it was impossible to compete with Nintendo's games on their own system. Now Nintendo is giving them so much time that even now they suck balls.( with a few exceptions)

The only B/tch move Nintendo makes is when they announce a game shortly before its release date.

[Alcon Caper]

With the bank that they're sitting on, I think they can afford to somewhat abandon the current system and invest their earnings into R&D for the next Nintendo console.

With their profits "falling" at least they're still making a profit...

...unlike some consoles.

[Product]

People forget that a whole lot of R&D went into making the Wii remote. A lot more than people think actually. I have a feeling if Wii 2 ever comes along, the R&D will be mostly in the interface and ease of use rather than the GPU or CPU.

Check out the Iwata ask on the Wii remote, very interesting read.

[ChickeyCantor]

" the R&D will be mostly in the interface and ease of use "

That step has already been done, Nintendo will focus on the wii-mote system and improve on that. But since huge research is already done on that matter, they can now put some money on the console specs.

But you can bet on it that they will go for a 250 price anyway, so they will just wait till tech drops its price thats similar to the Ps3's hardware and create a powerful system for less.

The more they get into advanced motion controller, it will become more likely that they will need to upgrade their hardware to a new level.

[jakethesnake]

I don't think that Nintendo can afford to abandon the wii yet to focus on R&D. By doing that they will essentially concede to the PS3 and 360 and when the follow up to the wii comes out a lot of people will remember the wii only for it smaller catalog and lack of support. They need to go out with a bang by pumping out some quality games so that the aftertaste of the wii is pleasant.

[Product]

@sidar
"But you can bet on it that they will go for a 250 price anyway, so they will just wait till tech drops its price thats similar to the Ps3's hardware and create a powerful system for less.
The more they get into advanced motion controller, it will become more likely that they will need to upgrade their hardware to a new level."

You have to understand that Nintendo will see motion controls as a red ocean up to the launch of the Wii2 or whatever they call it. Nintendo will create something new neither are doing. Motion control tech wil get better, but will not be the main focus for the next system.

Remember Nintendo actually wanted the Wii at "under $200" at launch, but couldn't due to cost. Motion controls will be old news once Nintendo creates whatever they create that influences the market.

[ChickeyCantor]

yes but as the NES pad changed into a SNES/SEGA pad into a PS1 pad etc etc...i think The Wii-mote will stay for a while.
They've already established a new type of controller.
Of course they will do some research for new types of interfaces, but it seems like the Wii-mote is pretty versatile in what it does.
The attachment bay seems ideal for other types of controllers as well.

Even sony has a wand now.

Don't forget; the wii-mote is very popular among the so called casual crowd.

[Product]

No, no, I dont mean the wii remote wont stay i mean it will not be the center of attention next console.

[ChickeyCantor]

O...thats what i said too xD

[ReaperXL7]

Maybe next time Nintendo will learn that you need to keep your fans happy to stay on top, because the mass market goes with the trends.

When a trend starts to die out with the Masses, and you've done almost nothing but piss off your fans for the past 3 years your bound to end up in a bad spot.

[Fierce Musashi]

I'm sorry, but if you know anything about current and upcoming Wii games you would know there are more core/hardcore Nintendo titles than stuff like Wii sports.

The reason we get like 2 Zelda, Metroid, and Mario games a gen is for the fans. The very people you say Nintendo isn't making "happy". And believe it or not, the actual fans (not fake asses) can't get enough of those core titles.

[na-no-nai]

i beg to differ. i been a fan since i was really young but how many will actually abandon nintendo for good??

i think what they did was great. beside lots of parents buy it for there kids

[ndpad]

More games on Wii should be like Mario Kart, great for core and casuals both.

[cmacdonald]

Something new and wasn't a port from the gamecube or further back would be nice.

[RedPawn]

New BattleClash Please!

[sakura2009]

nintendo got content. people just need to buy them

http://www.gamefaqs.com/con...

[Subzero200x]

hmmm this is a tough one, but if i had to guess sh** games, sh** exercise games and no real games for the people that made nintendo what it is.

"For adult gamers, the Wii offers nothing in terms of violent killing games." what? lol

[FxckOSX]

Mario, Zelda, pokeymon
Mario again, Zelda again, pokemon again,
Mario again, Zelda again, pokemon again,
Mario again, Zelda again, pokemon again

only "Mario", "Zelda", and "Pokemon"

ah ha
that's great.

[cheetorb]

what about the new "Biggest Loser" weight loss game? Isn't that supposed to be epic?

[cheapndirty]

Too funny! Come on man, that was below the belt. Where do I get my pre order?

[Spiden80]

Maybe if they'd stop making mario, zelda, and pokemon games over and over again and instead actually come up with something NEW. Nintendo should just give up in my opinion and just concentrate on making exercise games.

[ChickeyCantor]

Those titles you mentioned sell well, so your logic fails with pure epicness.

Those games aren't the problem, its the audience that is just way to ignorant on the games that are available.

Fact is the one above you "FxckOSX", is as ignorant as that audience as he thinks nintendo only makes 3 games. They made many more.
When was the last time someone mentioned -Fire Emblem-?
Just an example.

[N4g_null]

Sorry to break the news to you guys but uncharted sold like 17,000 in japan and wii fit plus sold almost 200k. It looks like japan doesnot llike the new tombraider game.

It seems nintendo is in another r&d mode. It is almost as if they are gearing up for another shift. It is good Sony is putting up a fight now. Had the ps3 came out at it's current price it may have alread beaten the xbox.

Yet after ff13 what does Sony have for japan ?

Please don't say gow either. Motion controls? Nope the best seller is the sequel to wii fit.

It is almost as if gamers just can't afford all the games that are out or everyone is saving for other games, mostly ds due to pricing.

[EvilTwin]

Nintendo has a ton of games in development. It bewilders me that the real "core pleaser" this year so far has been the Prime Trilogy. Don't get me wrong, it rocks and is a fantastic value, but it's a "best of" compilation.

M+Zelda, Galaxy 2, Other M, Pikmin 3, Retro's secret project, the rumored KI and Pilot Wings projects...none of that could've been released this year?

It backloads 2010 and 2011 with good first-party games, of course, but at the expense of 2009.

[That said, the Wii is about to hit a very strong slate of games (first and third party alike) -- NSMB, Silent Hill, FF:CC, COD4 port, RE:DC, Shaun White, and NFS this year. Then NMH2, RS2, Galaxy 2, Other M, MH3, Sin and Punishment 2, Grinder and Gladiator A.D. next year.]

[kesvalk]

what they really need is third party support, they should help thrid party to make games at nintendo quality.

the first party is good for now, with game like Metroid other M and Galaxy 2 coming, but what we have from third party? almost nothing good... except for MH3 nad Red Steel 2 i don't see very good games...

nintendo need to give ways to the third party to make games on the platform, if they manage to put a new castlevania and a MGS on the wii
it's a major boost for the console...

the wii almost don't have good RPGs and only ONE tactics games, only generic First person games and NO thrid person games, have only 3 good fighting games and one good racing game...

this way it's really dificult to stay playing...

[SpoonyRedMage]

I agree but I think you downplayed the third party games there. MH3 and Red Steel 2 are far from the only good looking third party games.

We do have a Wiiware Castlevania coming.... but Kojima should really throw the Wii a bone, they included Snake in Brawl!

RPGs I can agree on, big gap there but Arc Rise Fantasia, Tales of Graces, Monado and others will fill that gap, it has more at least two tactics games(Fire Emblem and Phantom Brave) and FPS it has a few(especially if you count Hudson's Wiiware shooters), only TPS is Resi 4(I think so anyway), I think there is only a handful of fighters though and racing games are not very well represented either.

Personally I think developers should stop jumping straight to beat em ups and rail shooters when it comes to making Wii games.

[iforgotmylogin]

wiihd/2 is comin out nintendo is smart i guess.

why waste time on 480p when the 1080p version is comin out. most devs are prolly in on it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... loooks like a 360 game

http://www.youtube.com/watc... looks like a wii game.

[dib8rman]

It is my understanding that Iwata means software with content not content by number of software.

He seems to be coming to grasps with the way Wii consumers are expecting their video games, which is huge.

It means that someone is finally getting it.
HD gamers want their HD promises of epic games and realism and “artistic” games, episodic content and so on.

Wii gamers want what we were promised, a reason to play games, content that takes skill to achieve and depth that keeps us hooked to finish and acquire the content.

By content I don’t mean little charms here and there or collectathons. I mean content as in depth and innovations in the way the world displays itself through challenges and rewards which makes it worth it to reach the next level and keep reaching the next level.

It’s not about graphics or game play, it’s about content and leaving enough for the imagination then graphics and game play.

[Product]

Exactly right my friend. It is interesting to see that there is more content in a game like Megaman 9 than there is in a game like Dead Space Extraction. By content I mean that magic that keeps you coming back.

This generation has proved that human nature loves a simple challenge, which is why the sunday papers crossword puzzle might be so popular. The pc gamer wannabes will defend and say modern games on hd consoles are better with their epic cinematics, and stories, but the fact remains more people in the world would rather play a game like Mario Kart because it does a better job at content.

It is interesting that even as old as the saying "easy to learn, hard to master" it is still just as relevant in games now as it was over 20 years ago.

[phantomexe]

My biggest complaint with the wii has been connectable.I love video games altogther weather it's the wii ds,xbox or the ps3 (no love for the psp tho sorry)I want to be able to connect on my wii friends like i do on the ps3 and xbox.We can argue all day about games which system and what not i don't care but what would help the wii is better grafics ,better interface and a more rounded libary with some not so lazy 3rd party support.Nintendo has everything else i mean they got that sweet controler which is kick a$$ for FPS like MOH2 and the conduit which i hope gets something at the VGA awards being the controls were..... yea nothing bets it on consul. There know reason why we can't have grafics with controls with a interface that brings wii gamers together.I'm sure i'll get alot of disagrees but if you really think about what i said most gamers will agree and the fanboys well there in a world of there own.

[airportwest]

it is time 4 nintendo upgrade their console and make quality games like ps3)xbox360. not rail-shootter games

[Product]

What rail shooter has Nintendo made outside of a pack in for their wiizapper?

[bigjclassic]

No SF,no SoulCalibur, no real RE, no big name 3rd party titles. Yeah Silent Hill and Darkside Chronicles are coming. Rock Band and GH sell very well on Wii.

But with gamers stuck in the "Shoot every thing mentality" and without many shooting games, that need cannot be fulfilled. CoD:MW reflex is coming and Conduit is already out, but the Wii needs more fad games to follow the trends that the PS3/360 set.

Bottom line MORE SHOOTERS ON WII.

[cheapndirty]

So Nintendo posts a 707 million dollar profit and they are in trouble? MS and Sony would love to have those numbers. And would also love to not been in the negative on the hardware R and D as well.

There is quite a bit of content out there. I having been pm'ing some wii owners to get a list of must buy games and I think I have about 40 titles I will be picking up. The Conduit and MW reflex looks like loads of fun.

I think that we will see more great third party games on the Wii in the next few years now that the devs have a better understanding on how to build on the platforms strengths. I love my 360 and launch ps3 but really like the idea of playiing a shooter with a wii mote instead of a pad.

[asdr3wsfas]

"There is quite a bit of content out there. I having been pm'ing some wii owners to get a list of must buy games and I think I have about 40 titles I will be picking up. The Conduit and MW reflex looks like loads of fun."

Yeah, I now got 42 wii games, like 6 more new ones come out by January that I gotta pick up. Someone above mentioned that he was talking about content on individual games, not content in terms of the quantity of games.

A lot of people here don't realize that the more slims are sold the more Sony loses money. They're good at cheerleading and bad at business and math. There are about 6 ps3 games I have or want, it's more of a blueray player to me. Trying to get linux running on this thing is the most entertaining game I can play (and it's got years and years of gameplay, it's unlikely that any real hack like this will come from software until hardware defeats security and people can run wild).

[cheapndirty]

Good post as usual oobob. I am eyeing Call of Duty Modern Warfare Reflex.

I am thinking that in 2010 I will be on a Wii game buying rampage. I am hesitant to buy it before Black Friday because of the deals that are surely to come.