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Why the Xbox Needs Blu-Ray

NextGN writes: "The Xbox 360 has more than it's fair share of great games, still - could you imagine just how much better Fable, Gears of War, and Halo could be if the game developers had more space to use? It would be smart for Microsoft to provide their developers with latest and greatest physical media storage, and at the moment that is Blu-Ray. Whether or not 8 gigabyte limit is holding developers back from pushing games to the next level, extending the limit would do nothing but give the generation a nudge in the right direction."

GWAVE5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

It's not just Blu-Ray. The lack of a standard HDD holds back development a lot, too. That's why multiplatform games are looking very crummy compared to games developed just for the PS3, yet these same multiplatform games look just as good (and often better) than any 360 exclusive. Resident Evil 5, Fallout 3, and Modern Warfare 2 all spring to mind.

rodeoo5318d ago

blueray on the 360 is pointless for 2 main reasons.
1. wouldn't be used for game.
2. The add on would probably be priced around the same as a cheap standalone blueray

Tony P5318d ago

It's stupid to throw out blu-ray now. You'd only be able to watch movies. No way does MS include it standard and start forcing devs to support it at this point. It seems like an unnecessary set of costs.

Standard hdd? I can't argue with that. It's rather stupid that they haven't yet when you consider how much they're pushing digital download.

Double Toasted5318d ago

at least the major(important) ones mention the need for Blu-ray. If this was the case then MS would have to do something and that something would be to release a new console with a Blu-ray drive. Its as simple as that...

Blaze9295318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

It won't/can't be used for games so whats the point? And we seen how 360 consumers like HD movies with the optional HD DVD player - they don't. Thats why you dont see 360 consumers asking/begging for blu-ray; they don't care.

Zune Marketplace 1080p streams just nullifies the need even more.

droid and bot5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

@1.4

pleaaaaaaaase

alot of this gen. games comes with multiple disks on the xbox

next gen would have bigger games
more hi-rez graphics
bigger cites in sand box games
more more more that’s what gaming need
I mean short campaigns and low rez textures wont be acceptable next net
In this gen maybe because it’s the transformation gen
It’s the first HD gen in console gaming

its okay games can come out on dvd-9 next gen
but each game well at least have 2 or 3 disks

big games my have 10 disks

lol are you kidding me ??
ppl already make jokes about switching disks in the xbox
you wont them to make more jokes next gen ??

JokesOnYou5318d ago

Just like the majority of the public are like 'meh to Bluray, it beat HD DVD because it had more studio's behind it yet unlike DVD its still been very slow to become the dominant format even with no other HD competition.

It adds cost but its done nothing major for game devs, ps3 games have the same avg content and game length. 360 games like Gears and ME dont take nearly that long and look just as good as ps3 games.

Dev's make games better or worst based on budget, and talent, resources etc, bluray is more space, thats it, same reason why Insomniac admits their own fans think RFOM2 was a failure...because it wasnt that good, bluray or DVD9, you get what you put into a game, Insomniacs a good dev, they just didnt deliver that time, thats all....either way sony can keep bluray, I own a ps3, and 360's doing just fine without it.

JOY

el_bandito5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

Make the next xbox play blu-ray movies and games.
To those people who are adamant on saying that they do not need blu-ray because they do not mind switching discs are hypocrites. Who wouldn't say no to convenience.

Blu-ray add-on on the current xbox is arguably a waste of money since the 360 won't play blu-ray games anyway. 360 users could just get another standalone blu-ray player, or a PS3.

Blaze9295318d ago

Hmm I'm sorry...did i not state "360" clear enough? I don't think I ever mentioned anything about next-gen....or you can't read non-fanboy language?

Sitdown5318d ago

"To those people who are adamant on saying that they do not need blu-ray because they do not mind switching discs are hypocrites. Who wouldn't say no to convenience"

So people are hypocrites because they feel they are capable of switching a disc? Stop trying to make a big deal about nothing....some people switch games at least 10 times a day to play something different....so it would not be all that different to switch a disc for the same game. Are people also hypocrites for buying cds when you can download from itunes? Am I a hypocrite if I choose to turn my tv on from the unit and not by the remote? But even before that.....its not up to you to define what is convenient for anybody else........what if after using my 360 I remove the disc at the end of the night...so come the next day, I just pop the second disc in..is that necessarily inconvenient? I own all three consoles....and not once have I felt slighted by the 360 because of having to change a disc.....except for the fact that changing a disc on the 360 is not as cool as it is on the ps3.

cereal_killa5318d ago

Kojima and Rockstar North says hello....

"If this was the case then MS would have to do something and that something would be to release a new console with a Blu-ray drive. Its as simple as that..."

I guess you must work for M$ since you know exactly what there plans are for the next Xbox do you honestly think they can survive another generation with DVD.

HolyOrangeCows5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

The lack of standard HDD is holding back the 360.
And screwing over people with initial vs final cost ($100 for 60GB HDD? Freaking ridiculous!).

As for blu-ray, MS will never buy into it, as they would be helping Sony establish another standard form of hard media. Sony gets royalties on every Blu-ray disc. And the Sony PS3 is a threat to MS's Xbox (Which you can tell whenever they are spreading fud as they always do in interviews (Since they have nothing positive to say about their own products)).

poopface15318d ago

it would never have 360 games on blu ray disks.

4Sh0w5317d ago (Edited 5317d ago )

Use multiple discs, I mean if a dev really feels he needs more space then just use 2 discs, the only type of game that this becomes and issue for are massive open world go anywhere type of games, and there are workarounds, like installs for those with a hdd, the minority with no hdd(do they really exist?) will just have to switch discs more often, also these type of games make up probably less than 3% percent of gaming titles currently available on either platform.

The space arguement doesnt hold much water when Turn10 is the latest dev to just use a 2nd disc without blinking, the game is getting fantastic scores and I doubt gamers care at all.

Lykon5317d ago

really, M$ just need to invest in making the 720 and learn from the massive hardware mistakes. Build a reliable console that delivers for once. AS for the many great great games, the author lists 3, the same 3 that get mentioned every time. put blu ray on the 720 built in and make a console that doesn't break if a door slams two blocks away. rolls eyes

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PeterPanParadox5318d ago

Not that I am not happy with the current standard of Xbox games I just think that giving the developers more disc space to play with would certainly inspire developers.

Baliw5318d ago

then you can expect a brand new format for the next xbox.

They can even bring games on memory sticks...

Bumpmapping5318d ago

The Xbox needs alot of things.

Zool 085318d ago

Yeah, starting with a cell processor.

neonlight455318d ago

yo we can keep the cell, what they need to do is to try to come up with their own thing

jhoang5318d ago

they should start with sometinh simpler like a working fan or cooler hardware.

Hank_Hill5318d ago

they didn't need it then, they dont need it now

Evil Industry5318d ago

that´s denial. i love my xbox but after seeing what has been coming out for the ps3 and all those comments about not being able to do that on the xbox because of space limitations has really got me thinking. i want to see this fixed for the next console.

PeterPanParadox5318d ago

limitations are mostly never good.

sikbeta5318d ago

No Swap and No game compression helping Devs to make better games and by that don't f*ck the ports for the PS3

Tony P5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

I don't think screwy ports have anything to do with blu-ray, but everything to do with the cell. Or rather the lack of expertise in programming for it.

sikbeta5318d ago

Compressed games f*ck up all the game from videos to sound and even the in-game world, example: Alan Wake no longer Open-World, I know is not multiplat, that's why I use it as an example XD

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander197216h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing6915h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander197215h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto15h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander197215h ago(Edited 15h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto15h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander197213h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff218311h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto10h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander19727h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv7214h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh13h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander197213h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow17h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv726h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix7616h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand12516h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC15h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander197215h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC14h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia11h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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