Modern Warfare 2 petition nearing 110k signatures, Bowling tries to ease the rage

Brutal Gamer writes - 'Oh Infinity Ward, what've you got yourself into.

As we know, Infinity Ward's Robert Bowling (aka FourZeroTwo) dropped an enormous bombshell on it's PC community earlier this week by announcing that they wouldn't be supporting dedicated servers. Very soon after this announcement, a petition was started by the PC community who were looking forward to MW2 on PC and it's nearing 110,000 signatures already! Not even a week after it's creation.'

[Saaking]

IW isn't innocent at all. It's both them and Activision and both of them can go to hell for all I care.

[poopface1]

IW sucks the balls of Actiblind. And I think IW likes it.

[kaveti6616]

Petition all you want. Infinity Ward doesn't care. I usually admire this kind of determination, but honestly, there's a certain point when people are just shouting at the wind, they're not making any difference.

[DiffusionE]

Suppose you're about to drown in the middle of a lake without any help and can't swim, would you stop struggling and accept your fate or would you fight till your last breath? If your answer is the former, then I assure you, you won't get half of what you can in real-life.

BTW, you're welcome to make a smartass reply about how if you drown in a lake you won't get anywhere anyway....blah blah....

[evrfighter]

I've never been an advocate of calling something a petition. If they would have called it a boycott then it would have more weight.

regardless you won't see pc gamers smiling and whipping out their wallets when Bobby Kotick and Co. whip out the dildo's.

If this is going to happen to pc gamers. I can guarantee you that they'll at least take an eye out before being taken out.

[doeman]

when was the last time an online petition concerning games changed something?

[ReservoirDog316]

I'm pretty sure that there will be very few copies of this sold on the pc cause pc know how to band together.

But to everyone else, I urge you to get this game used. Just don't buy it new. It's not that hard. If you go to gamestop and find a used copy, just get that instead.

You know, I wonder what would happen if reviews come out for this and all you see are 8s across the board. I don't think I ever considered that.

edit: @above

Wasn't the L4D2 petition a success? When it started, people said it wasn't good enough (and other stuff) but they closed it cause they were satisfied. Isn't that technically a success?

[GamerPS360]

@ kaveti

win or loose, You gotta let them know that whatever they are pulling is not appreciated.

By the way, infinity ward + Activision will be eating dust this time. COD4 was way better than COD3. But, it's not the same way this time with added fiasco and there are so many other great games already has been released or they are on horizon. I don't really see even half of COD4 numbers.

PS I didn't sign it but I won't be getting it. I bought 3 copies last time. 2 for PS3 (me and my brother), 1 for PC. That's less 3.

[AKNAA]

"Suppose you're about to drown in the middle of a lake without any help and can't swim, would you stop struggling and accept your fate or would you fight till your last breath? "

Haha! We are still talking about a mere game right??

[Syronicus]

Need to just shut up. You won't let your voice be heard on a petition yet you spend your time posting on a forum... Makes no sense guys. Sign a petition and at least you have made your point. If you never speak up you will never be heard but if you speak up, there is a greater chance that you will actually get a chance to gain the attention of those you are trying to speak with.

Don't sit idle by and let the enemy roll over you. If ever there was a world war, be sure to point out who those are that will not stand up for themselves, cause I sure as heck don't need yo by me when I am busy taking a stand.

[2Spock]

I am glad IW is sticking by their guns. Just cause people whine and cry doesn't mean they should get their way. People are not forced to buy the product, so IW can see fit how to make their game. And if people don't like it don't buy it. And 100,000 that is what less than 1% of possible total sales.

[m-s-8-2]

A loss of 55k units sold at best. Half of them would probably just have pirated the game anyway.

[ambientFLIER]

"A loss of 55k units sold at best. Half of them would probably just have pirated the game anyway."

Yep. And most of those people will end up buying the game anyway, even if they don't get their way, just because it will be good and everybody else will be playing it.

[Sarcasm]

I disagree 2spock.

If people don't speak their minds, then we all might as well just listen to everything the government tells us to do. Let's all just forget about "Freedom" and follow the leader.

Even if the petition doesn't do anything, at least it's a sign that not everybody will take their crap.

So get off your high horse.

[SuperM]

over 100 000 signatures in just a couple of days is not a piss in the wind. Smart people knows that people actually signing a petition is only a small fragment of the people upset with the descision. 100 000 in sales is atleast 3 000 000 dollars in revenue, certainly not money anyone would be willing to give up on. But given the situation you might be looking at 500 000 - 1 000 000 less in sales, which could mean between 15-30 million dollars in revenue.

Activision thinks they are fighting piracy, in reality they are creating more. They mess up the multiplayer part which is the only incentive people have to buy the game. Now they'll just pirate it for the Singleplayer.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

It sure is a lot of people, but putting it in perspective with the expected sales numbers for this game, it isn't really that large. I mean this game sells 10x times more than many other games so 10x the signers is still just a small percentage.

I'm not against the petition, but just highlighting the facts. I doubt dedicated servers will be integrated at this point, as it isn't something you just slap in at the last minute. It might just be too late.....

[ID IR A G 0 N]

how could people have a petition for this???????? cry babies

[f789790]

I think they should reconsider.

[specialguest]

Phil McGroin

[evrfighter]

the only way I'd be down for this matchmaking service is if there was Cross platform play.

Of course if that happened there would be a petition started by console gamers probably in the millions demanding we have dedicated servers

I'd pay $100 for this :D.

[kaveti6616]

I think Valve was already planning on doing all the things that you guys say they did because of the petition. Either way, Valve is a community developer and is always known for listening to its fans, so in that case it wasn't really a petition so much as a poll that told Valve what the community wanted.

Infinity Ward and Activision are not PC community-loving developers/publishers. Activision is in it for the money, and I don't think Infinity Ward minds that. Also, Infinity Ward made a statement about why they decided not to support dedicated servers, and although I don't agree with their answer, I fully understand what they're coming from. If I'm not mistaken, I was under the impression that COD4 gamers were complaining about cheaters during matches, and IW said that they didn't want the servers to be full of modders who would have an advantage over other gamers. There probably was another way to go to prevent that from happening this time around, but IW chose to cut out server support, and now they're getting bashed for doing that.

[samfk]

if any1 knows of a link for a petition or a complete boycot of the console version let me know!in the uk im sure you are aware! there asking £55? for the stand alone version! there taking the absoloute p...!i know its tempting ,to get a game from launch but if we all keep paying prices like this it wont stop!evry 1 get some balls!!

[JonnyBigBoss]

That's a huge hit to PC gaming. I can hardly believe that they won't bother implementing dedicated server functionality.

[JustinSaneV2]

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

All of our complaints fall on deaf ears. Welcome to the Activision that only cares about the green.

[DoctorXpro]

Instead of l4d2 boycott

should be MW2 boycott

[supraman21]

I dont even game on my PC but this crap from Activision is pissing me off. Im not gonna be affected by the price increase sense I game on my PS3 also cause im not gonna be buying the game, but dam PC gamers are really getting the shaft. IW you are re using an old engine with sub HD resolution(PS3/X360)and no dedicated servers. In my book you do not deserve that price hike. Only Developers like Gorilla, Insomniac and Naughty Dog earn it cause they actually listen to the gamers and strive for innovation. Bad Company 2 here I come. Dedicated servers for everyone is a given

[JD_Shadow]

How long until IW nukes THAT petition?

[poopface1]

SOMEONE NEEDS TO REMIND I.W. THAT TYREACH DID A BETTER JOB WITH WaW THEN THEY ARE DOING WITH MW2 ON PC.

Ive never seen a developer ignore their original fanbase as much as IW has. Its kinda sad that they would give the finger to all of their oldest fans who have benn playing since MoH: AA and COD1. They forgot who bought their first games and who got them to where they are now.

I wasnt even going to get the PC version, I would have gotten it on 360 to play with my friends, but I dont even want to do taht now. How could they take away almost all of the best things of pc gaming? OHHH THEY WANT TO SELL MORE DLC.

My favorite online game is CS. Ive been playing since 99 and still play source all the time. My favorite game ever is HL 1. IF VALVE DROPPED DEDICATED SERVERS I WOULD NEVER BUY OR PLAY ANY OF THEIR GAMES AGAIN.

IW ARE FAILURES, AND LET DOWN THEIR MOST LOYAL FANS.

its becoming more and more clear taht there are very few developers willing to listen to the community, and IW are some of the most bass akwards devs out there now a days I guess.

[kasasensei]

Activision just dont care anymore about pc gamers.
Not enough money in their pocket from us.
Time to try something different than a copy-pasted cod this year.

[Captain Tuttle]

I think you're right on this one. The money's just not there for them anymore. People steal too many copies.

[CrippleH]

Other then having IW on their side. Activision has always been shiet to me. Activision is getting eviler by the minute.

[2Spock]

I would not want to release my product on a platform that all people do is steal. The PC gamers are doing it to themselves not IW or Activision.

[Sarcasm]

"I would not want to release my product on a platform that all people do is steal. "

Then don't release a 360 game, DS game, Wii Game, PSP game or PC game. They're all pirated.

No wonder some developers want to be a PS3 exclusive.

[Noctis Aftermath]

i swear some of you just make up information to suite yourselves, most pc gamers don't pirate the games, yes some do, but most don't, if Piracy was such a huge issue they wouldn't even release games on PC.

we as console gamers have ALOT to thank PC gamers for, the FPS genre is one thing, now a developer which made it's money from pc gamers is going to basically turn its back on the people who helped make them? that doesn't sit right with me.

Signed and i won't be buying MW2, only FPS games i will buy in the future will be Bad Company 2 and maybe MAG.

[theEnemy]

*CoD:4 Released*
IW: Wow, we really hit a jackpot here, CoD4 is selling like pancakes.
Activision: Hmmn.. interesting.
Treyarch: Yo' let me use your engine, we'll do CoD5.
IW: Sure, but CoD6 MW2 is ours, and you can't go for the present-day setting too.
Treyarch: ok.
*CoD5 released*
Activison: Yo IW, go make MW2 now.
IW: On it.

*2 months till MW2 release
Activision: Good Day MW2 fans, we have increased the price of MW2 because we think the current price is too low for what you are getting from MW2.
IW: hehe..

*3 Weeks till MW2 release
IW: Good Day MW2(PC) fans, we have decided not to include dedicated servers and future mods this time so we can maximize profits by reducing game servers. Oh and you can't re-sell the game because it is connected to Steam this time.
Activision: hehe..

[2Spock]

And your point would be what? My wife runs a small business and she is always trying to figure out a way to increase profits and if people don't like what she is doing they can go elsewhere, correct?

[theEnemy]

you're wife is always trying to increase profits even without considering how the consumers will be affected or will react too ?

I see.

[evrfighter]

in other words. Your wife hasn't heard of customer service...

interesting

[Noctis Aftermath]

A company can only run so long as their are people buying its products/services.

Now ask your wife this, would she be willing to take away services that alot of her customers enjoy using to save a little extra money even if it has the potential to harm sales?

Especially when alot of customers are vocal of their objections and intentions to buy there products elsewhere if you decide to do so?

[DARK WITNESS]

well I say good for PC gamers, at least they really support eachother.

If those people who sign really don't get the game then at least it will be making a statement in itself.

activision are really pushing a lot of crap with MW2;
first they increase the RRP in EU, Then they increase the price of the PC game... their excuse being that it's needed to deliver the "quality" experience that we ( the gamers ) are asking for, then they go on to say they are not doing dedicated servers for pc.

I am sorry but enough is enough.

people who think this wont make a difference and think there is nothing we as gamers can do about this are the real problem...
after all, we are the ones actually pulling out the money from our pockets for this.

edit; and I would just like to add, I don't care what excuses IW come up with for not having servers, activision once again will be laughing because it's less cost to them which = more profit, less work.

once again they are testing the waters, just like they did with the price increase... this could be something we see from other games if it's not put to a stop

[solar]

As a PC gamer this entire situation disgusts me. From the price hikes, the mocking of us, this notion that we are now too stupid to operate a server browser argh its so obvious this whole thing is another way that greedy CEO can milk more money out of gamers. See GH and CoD

[Captain Tuttle]

Jeez, don't take it so personally. It's just a business decision. Expect alot more companies to do this in the coming years. The days of PC pirates enjoying a free ride are nearing the end.

[CrippleH]

You obviously never heard of Steam turtle. The ignorance, steam can have dedicated server and mods and you can't play with pirated version. If you do Steam is just going to ban the user and block the pirated version.

Lot of ignorant posters here.

[Vip3r]

Activision really are becoming the Nazis of the gaming world. They are still charging more tha £25 for COD4 on the different platforms and now this with it's price.

Just what in the hell activision? Since when and where did all the greed for green come from?

[divideby0]

they really need all 110k, NOT TO BUY THE GAME..thats the msg. that will make them listen...not just a petition.

read their excuse why no dedi servers = lame and they are catering to the exteme minority of cheaters, who Act. can easily take care of vs hosing their loyal followers

[kesvalk]

all this thing with activision is making me shiver, something is very wrong here...

i don't like the looks of it...

[mcslick101]

IW have got some mental disease. Make great games the sh*t all over them!

[galgor]

over 120,000! Good goin to all the contributors!

[ambientFLIER]

Good going to the 100 people signing multiple times!

[ps3ftwin]

console gamers should join hands.

for how much money Activision has made of us gamers, they should provide dedicated server support across all platforms.

They increase the pricing in europe then increase the pricing on pc. What are they trying to do? test the waters then later on implement a higher price in all regions? they should be stopped.

if this goes through other developers might increase prices too, not just pc but for everything. we need to stick together as a gaming community and fight back against this.

i wont be buying this game thats for sure.

[DARK WITNESS]

agreed, thats exactly what I have been saying for a while now...

The real crunch though will be getting people not to buy the game, at least not in the first week or two.

[MajestieBeast]

Normally i would buy it on my ps3 but i wont buy it at all since i dont like paying full price for a game with little change. I support the pc gamers they pay more for less.

[Stone-The-Crow]

@ ps3ftwin

i agree i think us console gamers should join hands

it's our money that Activision is getting and we are the ones making them rich so they should provide dedicated servers for all platforms

if i actually decide to buy this game i'm buying it used so they don't my money...

[Barragan]

if you wont buy this game new and you bought any other game this year new and any game since modern warfare 1 new, then your just being stupid

[Ravage27]

That was sacarsm right? It better be, coz that's the most retarded comment i've heard in years.

fyi, i bought COD4 used(good deal,lasted me quite a while) but i'm now bored with the franchise and was never planning to GET mw2 used or new.
And counting from then, i've bought 21 PS3 games and 1 PC game. All(except RE5) deserves my cash more than that stagnant nothing-but-hype mw1.5

[KEVERS]

you take things far too seriously, my friend. It's just a game, it's up to you wether you want to purchase it or not.

[solar]

its a far more complicated issue then "just a game" to the CoD PC community. im not in it but i understand what they are making a stink about.

[electricshadow]

People can complain all they want, but everyone knows that they'll still buy the game.

[Tehdaza]

But the L4D2 boycotter's main gripe was that there wasn't as much DLC as they had hoped, and they feared that Valve would stop supporting L4D after L4D2's release.

If you know anything about Valve, it's their dedication to supporting games, even after newer versions of that game come out. Christ, they still update Counter Strike 1.6 every couple of months. And Valve also released a substantial DLC pack and confirmed that there would be more down the road.

The L4D2 boycott disbanded. It doesn't exist anymore.

[solar]

you dont get it do you?

the only thing these two issues have in common is the word "boycott".

please go research why us PC gamers are mad at IW.

[evrfighter]

L4D boycott has been considered a success. Valve addressed almost all of the boycotts concerns.

Instead of reading news here on n4g and coming to your own conclusion. You should read a little before spouting off mis-information.

[MAGNUM-RAM]

If not in sales then in muthafckn gameplay.

[DoucheVader]

Keep pirating your PC Games and I guarantee this will happen more often.

Some PC versions have had the Multiplayer Gimped all together.

[Tehdaza]

But this is the ultimate gimp. We're essentially playing the console version. It can't possibly get any worse.

[CrippleH]

This has nothing to do with Piracy since it's on steam. It's just Activision cutting off all the option the PC gamers love; Dedicated server and mods, so they can shove dlc up their bums.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Is gonna get heavily pirated...Instead of developers and publishers trying to work with the consumer they are trying harder to fight against them. First the price increase because well they can and now this. It is a disgrace and when will people learn to not just put up with it? I am still boycotting MWF2.

[junk-3d]

From what I gather the game will be locked to Steam. So that will make it nigh impossible to pirate...especially if you want online play.

[junk-3d]

Even with 110,000+ signatures, I highly doubt that IW will do anything about the servers and modding of MWF2. The game will still sell a million plus units on PC so they aren't going to lose that much profits. Just sucks to see them go down this route.

[oldsnayke]

lol, honestly, you think IW gives a sh!t? They're mainly focusing on the 360 and PS3. Disagree with me all you want, but you're only doing that because you don't want to accept the truth.

[kingdavid]

yep. Too much work to add extra stuff to a pc version. Its a why bother situation. The same goes for them choosing not to include the great local search in cod waw.

Theyre being shown for the lazy developers that they are.

[rubixCubos]

I've signed it.

F*cking console gamers are the scourge of the earth. Don't get me wrong, I'm an insidious Sony fanboy, but I hate seeing gaming dumbed down for clowns like the Halo/GTA crowd of casualness

[unknownhero1123]

it's not the console gamers fault that IW is screwing you over, it's IW's greed.

[Raoh]

ooohhh a petition

these would probably mean more if the people behind the valve/l4d2 one wouldnt have caved in and submitted to valve...

[Tehdaza]

Their demands were met. Why shouldn't they cease after that?

[ambientFLIER]

What demands were those?

[EVILDEAD360]

LMAO @ anybody being able to click a button and write ANYTHING as a name. That site doesnt even have 100.000 hits since trhe petition. LOL @ the site owner spending hours writing names like 'MW2 guy' and 'Shoot821'.

Infinity Ward probably didnt even spend their coffee break worrying about it.

MW2 will sell at leat 3 million in console sales alone. The fake 100 or so people who dont buy it are meaningless at the end of the day. Don't these people get it by now, the average person learned how fake the internet was years ago.

The funniest part about it is how little the responses are to this article from the only place that can really generate hits.

Hilarious

[danielle007]

But IW & Activision are being ridic about this, how hard is it to just keep continuing the support that you've given PC gamers in the past?

I hope their PC sales are way, way down.

[newfaith]

All these console gamers just dont have a clue about anything, just makes me want to smash my head on my keyboard.

For starters On pc you cant go online with a pirate version of a game as you dont have a legit CD key... you can only play offline so wtf half of you are on about god knows.

Activision and IW are a bunch of $$$ obsessed fiends, they absolutly cannot get away with this bull ****, i cancelled my pre order on MW2 as soon as this came to light.

[LinuxGuru]

Man, its and it's is used incorrectly so many times in that intro that I wanna throw up.

[BrianC6234]

110,000 peaople signed the petition? I find that hard to believe. There aren't that many PC gamers left.

[rbluetank]

it is now at 132,046 Total Signatures and rising!!!! fast! people should always speak out. what act up vision is doing is horrible for the gaming communities as a whole.

[fatstarr]

i just dont see why activision cant have 2 modes, a quick play online mode and then one for servers and modders and those alike. they better shape up

[sirbigam]

I'm the 132210 haha.

[Senden]

Some of comments here are just plain funny.. laughing at us pc gamers for wanting one of the most basic of features in a pc game that has been around as far back as I can remember in my pc gaming years. Instead of trolling things you don't understand, go play your crappy halo with your piss poor customisable options and inability to create real communities inside your stripped down console mp games.