BORDERLANDS: Head 2 Head Platform Comparison

Which platform should get your investment for the upcoming new shooter BORDERLANDS?

[Feral Gamer]

They don't even comment on the graphics of 360/PS3 comparatively.

[Montrealien]

bah, another useless article. I played it on the 360 yesterday at work an brought it home on my PS3, all that matters is that this is a very solid game. Diablo as a fps, I am in?!?

A little off topic, the more I play this game, the more I think this was the Halo Project Gearbox was making, any thought?

[Jsynn7]

They're the same. Why did they even bother? Why do people keep doing this? What does it matter? I don't care if one game is darker than the other or if the other game is more colorful. If it's an awesome game and it plays well, I'll play it no matter what it looks like. These are for the people who really judge books by their covers. If you care about this kinda stuff, grow up. The media just tries to fuel the fires of the fanboy wars by doing this. It's sad really. The only way this stuff will go away is if you ignore but there are the great some who actually give in to this. To this I say once again, grow up.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

yo Montrealien where do you work?

[JsonHenry]

I already have it bought and paid for through STEAM on my PC.

[Kiroe]

Seriously, what a useless comparison. Really? PC looks better? Naw, really?!?!?! Couldn't have guessed that one.:D He never mention one visual difference on the PS3/Xbox 360, let alone performance.

I will be waiting for Lens of Truth and Eurogamers analysis before I make my purchase.

[Christopher]

1. No HD, in depth view of the games on any platform. Pretty much shrunk down resolutions where they all look the same.

2. We don't care about you talking to us about which is better, we want to be shown proof, visually, that one is better than the other.

3. Again, not even an HD YouTube video version?

4. No comments at all on the differences between the PS3 and 360. Framerate? Tearing percentage? Quantity of pop-ins? Load times? Give us something.

[Montrealien]

I manage a Microplay here in Montreal Natsu.

[edgeofblade]

And da winner is? I say the PC. I prefer to play games on a console, but I really think the PC version looks like it handles better.

[talltony]

to me...

[dreamcast]

"A little off topic, the more I play this game, the more I think this was the Halo Project Gearbox was making, any thought?"

I never thought Gearbox was actually working on a new Halo, but that'd definitely be interesting. I'll have to play it today before I make an opinion either way, but I'm glad you're liking the game.. I've been looking forward to it for a while.

[likedamaster]

@Tall

Didn't notice a difference either. They're just trying to puch the PC version, in my opinion.

[Poopface the 2nd]

thatnks guy for telling me the PC version can look better. Funny how he says that and doesnt mention what kind of comp he was playing on. I really wanted to know what console version was better as I got ps3/360/PC. Not sure if my PC can handle it so Id like to know about the console versions. Putting a pc game in the comparison is pointless as it wont be the same for everyone, and most people know that the pc versions always have more potential.

[IaMs12]

Dude this is like Diablo but with Guns! lol sweet i def have to look into this

[Turn 10 Studios]

FailStation got OWNED

[IRetrouk]

how do you work that one out?

[thereapersson]

How did it get "owned", when both version are identical? I don't even know why I bothered responding to your tripe...

[champ21]

360 got owned as well.. whats your point?

the taxfree(pc) version beat both of them ;-)

15usd cheaper... and it owned both the boxes.

imo id drop the fanboyism.. and be careful about sony and micro till they corrected their pricing.

[Pennywise]

As dumb as MGR? Its a 99% chance they are the same idiot.

[Man_of_the_year]

Both the PS3 and 360 versions look IDENTICAL in that video comparison. Also i didn't see much or if any difference between the PC/360/PS3 versions. They all looked the same. 2K did a great job at making the games all look the same.

[LukaX23]

I think it's because Gearbox actually made the game nearly identical on both consoles.

I'm sold! Thanks, IGN.

[divideby0]

bargain bin after the holidays..

[Pennywise]

You think it will make it that far?

[Montrealien]

its 39.99 here in Canada at Walmart Future shop and Best buy, that's one hell of a bargain right there.

[champ21]

"pc version is also the best looking... console version also stutters" :P

though you only need a mid range pc to play this to max.

a 150usd gpu is enough ;-)

@ below

oh sure a 8800gt is about 2x the power of any console.. its more then enough to play this game. also you save paying a tax ;-) 10usd saved for another game :) 15usd if you bought it over steam.

[thereapersson]

I'm sure my 8800GT will be more than adequate enough to play this game

[skagrerrrr]

this game's gonna rock!

[Montrealien]

My 42" and couch on my PS3 will also be more then adequate to play this game. Don;t get me wrong, the PC version will be the better looking one, but lets face it, nothing beats playing a console game in the comfort of your living room.

[t850]

i got my pc connected to my hdtv.. its awesome ;-)

btw i got it @ 33usd with ma friends ;-) best deal every from steam.

[presto717]

You're 100% right. Thats why I quit pc gaming altogether and moved over to ps3. It was just too much of an inconvenience always having to plug my pc to my hdtv, and playing with a keyboard and mouse while looking at a tv just feels weird.

Now I feel like I just wasted money beefing up my pc.

Shucks.

[STK026]

yeah, because we all know PCs can't use controllers right?

[Sarcasm]

Ah the old arguement. Sure you could play the PC version in 232030434x243503450345 with 2345x anti aliasing. But working folks like me would rather sit on my couch leaning back to enjoy some gaming. Not come home from the office chair to sit on another office chair.

Don't get me wrong, I have a decent computer with a 8800GTS, but the only PC game I'm going to play on it is Starcraft II or counter strike.

[Fishy Fingers]

Ah the old sofa shout. Weak at best. It as easy to link a pc to your tv as it is a console, plus you can choose which controller you want if you don't like k/b and mouse. Why not just say, I'll be playing on X because that's what you have or prefer, there is no need to try and justify it.

[thor]

If a PC came with a specific "gaming" operating system (or you could probably mock one up yourself), it could be as easy and as comfortable as:

-Turning the computer on
-Picking up your controller and turning it on
-Lay back on the settee
-Pick the game you want to play (don't even have to insert a disk if you bought everything off steam)
-Play & Enjoy

The only thing holding back PC gaming as compared to consoles is the lack of party games/split-screen play (though console games are eschewing this as well). In fact I'm very tempted to get a setup like this. The other thing is that people want to use their PC for non-gaming purposes as well, so it can't be in the living room.

After all, what do all those arcade machines, quiz boxes etc run on? That's right, a windows PC.

[Jdoki]

I guess for some people the PC vs couch/sofa argument is relevant.

Luckily I have my PC and consoles going through DVI/HDMI in to an amp and then in to my HDTV. Coupled with a wireless 360 adpater for the PC it's perfect for gaming either at my desk or sofa.

[Montrealien]

You know Fishy, the Irony here is that I infact have a PC conected to my TV. And the (Old Couch shout) is subjective, I just prefer keeping my console gaming in the living room sitting on my couch. And thats not to say I don`t play many games on my great PC in my computer room also, Its all a matter of choice, you do understand that right? And with the choice we have these days, its pretty hard to have a wrong one.

[presto717]

I got a gaming pc first this gen because people always say games look better on pc. I got the pc version of gears, which would crash on me like 5 secs after the game started. Oblivion wouldnt even finish launching before it crashed. My DMC4 did not even install because "one of the CAB files was corrupt". Granted COD4 and UT3 were excellent with a keyboard and mouse, I just got tired of all the issue associated with pc gaming. I got a logitech controller for my pc, but the damn thing would reset the buttons every time I launched a game.

What more can I say?

[ps3ftwin]

i been a console gamer till this point.. now i only buy exclusives for my ps3.

pc just is cheaper for gaming.

@above

i dunno how you are getting so many problems... all i have is steam.. point and click on the game.

it updates and patches everything.. no hassles for me.

my gaming has been cheaper & superior ever since i made the switch.

[thor]

Actually I'm finding that console games crash as often as PC games nowadays... only problems I have are if I'm running it at too high settings, or it's just a REALLY BADLY coded game (*cough* Empire: Total War), most games aren't like this.

[t850]

well consoles have become dumped down pcs this gen...

if things crash on a console.. you cant really do anything until micro or sony get it fixed.

on the pc on the other hand there more likly is a fix. this is because companies can get patches out faster on the pc they dont have to wait for microsofts or sonys approval.

[Ju]

"The only thing holding back PC gaming as compared to consoles" is

- no dedicated game operating interface (you still need to boot a desktop)
- no unified online system (Windows Live, Steam, GameSpy, etc).
- and thus no unified online community
- high maintenance effort to keep your PC up to date.

It's not a console. As long its running a full fledged Windows OS it will never be. Either someone strips it down and makes it a OS which hides its general purpose interface it'll never compete against consoles for Joe Couchpotato. MS will never do that (competition for the 360) and other will fail (see why Windows Live! is not supported across all games).

For performance geeks, this can be a solution, but for mainstream it will never work.

BTW: Consoles crash. Don't even get started. No, they don't.

[STK026]

what's the point with a unified online community? PCs can run messenger, AIM or similar programs, aswell as Skype, TS or Vent, if you meet someone in one given game and want to communicate with them afterwards in other games, just use one of these. Also, most games these days are seeing a Steam release, which is probably the most console-like experience you can get on a PC.

And yes, consoles do crash, even on the dashboard (or XMB). Games freeze, both on PC and consoles.

My point is, a PC can pretty much do anything a console can, it just requires a bit more work (I assume pretty much anyone can install skype on its PC...) and more cash. Also, please don't give me the "PCs can't play UC2" argument, I know it can't, the game is a PS3 exclusive, it's about as relevant as saying that my PS3 can't run Dawn of War II or that my X360 can't play Crisis Core...

[Poopface the 2nd]

I got a 512mb 9600gso, but only a single core 2.4 athlon 64 and only 1 gig of ram. Maybe they will have a demo for pc that I can try before I decide on getting one of the console versions.

[evrfighter]

Man my HDTV, My couch, Native 1080p, Max AA, 60fps minimum, my wireless 360 controller

Yup PC version is definately the must have version.

If a pc gamer really wanted to have a couch, HDTV setup. He would have it. Except it would be 10x better.

[Ju]

"it just requires a bit more work" this is exactly my point.

And I don't care about cross game chat. I want to get into a game, select "online", plug in my headset and go. Instead of asking myself, which account do I sign in today ? Did I configure my headset right ? And all that crap.

That's why I said: "For performance geeks, this can be a solution, but for mainstream it will never work. "

So, if you want to go that route, fine, enjoy. I wouldn't want to trade what I have and works with it, though (even though I play a couple of games on the PC these days).

[free3sixty]

4 player co-op?? only possible on xbox360. Cause the online community for the PS3 is a shame!

Just look on KZ2.. you have to wait 5-10 minutes to get into a deathmatch oO

[Double07]

Wow I read Turn 10's comment and thought that was almost stupid beyond words and then I scroll down a bit and see this, well done you take the cake for the stupidest comment Ive seen today.. so far.

[Nitrowolf2]

4 player co-op only possible on 360
Resistance does 8 and has a good community

[Roper316]

That is beacause 4 is all the 360 can handle, while the PS3 has the ability to have upto 256 players at 1 time. An the worse part is MS charges for it while it is free on the PS3.

So lets see upto 4 max for 50 bucks a year or upto 256 for free. Which ever will I pick?

More for free is > then less for a cost!

[achira]

dumb idiot. it does not take 5-10 minutes. if the game is running it does not take more than 1 and a half minute. of courese there is some time for setting up your character before a game starts. but its the same on any game.

it takes far longer on geow 2 and halo 3, so i dont see your point here. perhaps you are a dumb hardcore fanboy ?

[Man_of_the_year]

Really? PS3 can only handle 256 at a time...thats pretty small considering the THOUSANDS that play at 1 single moment in PSU online and FFXI online....

Roper316 you're just another ignorant PS3 Fantool. The PS3 and 360 have the capabilities to play MMO games over their servers. And with games like FFXI and PSU online, that right there is more than enough proof. Did you your parents just recently buy you a PS3 and that is why you don't know much about gaming and the industry?

I will take cross game chat/invites any day over the PSN. When the PSN has that then you have a winning argument. Until then, i have no problems paying $50 a YEAR to have those features on ALL MY GAMES.

And why are you saying "So lets see upto 4 max for 50 bucks a year or upto 256 for free. Which ever will I pick?"

So going by your logic, since i have those features and can be used on all my games and not just 1 game, than $50/year divided by 42 games = 1.19 a year. WOW!!! Now that is a deal. $1.19 a year for a 4 player Co-op game where i can have private chats, party chats and cross game invites...Worth every PENNY.

[JeffGUNZ]

"stupidest" is not a word.

[DaChinPin]

If that is the only difference and reason that you can justify the $50 price tag of Live...Get ready to be pissed when PSN gets its big update near the holiday season. Good luck justifying paying for Live then.

[ultimolu]

Jeff, stupidest *is* a word.

There's stupid, stupider, and stupidest.

Which one of those do you fit in?

[JeffGUNZ]

Sorry pal, you're wrong. "stupidest" has become a slang term in society and only acknowledged by Webster dictionary. Stupid is just like lucid (same -id ending). The comparative form is more lucid, and the superlative form is most lucid. Likewise, the comparative form of stupid is more stupid, and the superlative form is most stupid. In fact, in general, -id words use more and most instead of -er and -est. (The water was more tepid, he was the most lucid, they could have been more candid, his reflexes have grown more torpid, the milk was the most rancid, his tongue had grown more acrid. No one would even think to say tepidest, lucidest, candidest, torpidest, rancidest, or acridest.)

Just because words are acknowledged in a culture does not mean they are correct and proper words. I can buy you a Rosetta Stone if you want, maybe that will clear some issues up for you.

[bunbun777]

just stupid, then it turns into more and most.

10 years ago you couldn't find stupider in a dictionary, now it shows up.

I guess its a real word, kinda like

anyways.

[ultimolu]

Okaaaay...

Whatever floats your boat. In modern day language, it's now a word.

[Sangria]

Do we know what's the level cap for that game?

[T3quilaSlay3r]

50

[gmxracing]

at 50 but its not gonna stay there, They are already working on the first expansion according to what i've heard and that it will raise the level cap in the first expansion, the game was set up to be majorly expanded.

[memots]

Keep hearing about this "level cap" thing.
I remember playing lots of rpg way back and never really cared about this.

Is there a reason why its somehow important now ? What if it was 70 instead of 50 or 130 ? sooo ....

[thor]

I don't know what the importance of a level cap is.

You might gain a level every 5 seconds of play. That means that level 50 would be pretty low.

On the other hand gaining a level might be a big event and so 12 levels is perfectly adequate.

I think that since it's usually quite standardised (e.g. you get a new skill point per level), it "means" something to people. Though it is still pretty arbitrary. "Hours to reach max level" would mean a lot more.

[Sangria]

Thanks for the information.
@memots: Because people love to level up so the higher the level cap is, the more they will spend time to do it and enjoy the game. For example, for Sacred 2, the level cap must be around 200, but in a single campaign you finish the game at level 30 at max. As there are areas where enemies are strong, you level up, you gain skills, magics, strength, you wear big armors, etc...

On another side, Fallout 3 level cap is 20 (without expansion), and you easily reach this level. As many skills are inaccessible until a certain level, once you reach level 20, you feel like needing to be more powerful, and with your lvl 20 character, you feel Fallout 3 like a simple FPS, because you cannot gain level anymore.

But then, it depends of how long are each level. If you can reach easily the level 50 in Borderlands, then you will feel like Fallout 3, only playing a FPS.

[memots]

Some game like Thor said it could take you 10 hour to level up, for example : and then they could give you a lot of stuff to upgrade or barely anything.

So basically be it level 100 or 20 it doesn't matter. Its what you gain when you level up.

So i think the level is definitely a non-issue for me. Ill play the game that the developers designed in anyway they see it fit to be played.

[Lets-Game]

me and my friends are getting it on PC, we all have ps3s but any fps, strategy or mmo we get on PC's unless exclusive. PC gaming is just better for this genres.

[t850]

get it on steam

4 pack = 33usd per game ;-)

cant beat that deal.

[ps3ftwin]

i got it on steam too dude.

33usd..

plus higher res, smooth frame rate... mod support later on is too much to miss on.

[evrfighter]

ya me and my steam buddies did the $34 pitch in and bought the 4-pack

[BO WALEED]

get it on Xbox 360 for sure.. yeah XBL is better than any online gaming serves ,,,
yeah when I clicked quick match.. too me 2 seconds to find my self in a game with 3 peaople .. co-op.. :)

don't even think of it on GayStation 3 !

[paradigmfellow]

how immature he is. It is so cute lol

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

Poor XBOT stuck playing lame games for the past 2yrs lol so sad to be u. Go and play you're dumb game u retard I'll be playing uncharted 2. Dumb XBOX getting slapped left and right

[thereapersson]

BOT Waleed... hahahaha

[N4G king]

"yeah XBL is better than any online gaming serves"

PC > PSN > XBL

PC = 100's of ppl in the same map
PSN = 256 players on the same map ( MAG )
XBL = laggy 5 on 5

[champ21]

dam waleed i could have sworn you had 4 bubbles just yesterday..

time to make another account lol

[chad22hkd]

a good looking ps3 version. I forgot companies can do that. That is great though. I always check to see if its a bad ps3 port. But the game looks good. Should be getting this game soon!

[gameman]

you don't own kz2 o r2 or u2 didn't they are lag less and yes free of charge unlike a f@gy system called 3fixme who couldn't even give us a decent elusive for a whole year why did you play TEH SALEZ game as always bot oh wait you can't npd just showed how f@g you system is

[JeffGUNZ]

Why don't you learn to write a proper sentence before you try to insult someone. Congrats, you own a ps3 and have a 4th grade reading/writing level.

[AliTheBrit19]

^^ Typical PS3 Fanboy

[Montrealien]

Seriously, the more I play this, the more I really really think that this was infact the Halo Project Gearbox was working on.

[ticklechamp]

[lowcarb]

I hope the next xbox is upgradable and called the xboxpc.

[champ21]

yes as long as microsoft charges 49usd for the games

doesnt charge for online service

allows mouse keyboard

allows mods

no prod issues

also the upgrades should be new tech @ prices comparable to the pc

then we might be heading in the right direction.. id still prefer a pc though :P

[DiffusionE]

I was actually surprised. I thought it would be all about PS3 vs 360. Only idiots don't know that PC version is always the best. That is why most comparisons are only about PS3 vs 360. They don't need to compare the PC version with anything because it's always 3-steps ahead of any other platform.

[Premonition]

playing the game right now. So far so good.

[ForROME]

I like these comparisons because when I find out its a bad port, I stop buying games from that company until they show equal love.

So I personally like these, and for people who own both consoles it helps them decide as well

the people who dont like them are ones easily talked into going into war with one another over them or people tired of watching people go to war over them

[Feral Gamer]

So what's the verdict on the game? Anyone playing? I just picked up the PS3 version but I'm at work until 4pm. The reviews are 8/10 and higher. What are your thoughts? Is it worth opening or should I return it? I don't have any people on my buddy list who'll buy this game, unfortunately :( I hear you should play with people you trust so they don't grab the rare loot and leave the game.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Yeah i kinda want to know whats going on as well. The free for all on loot is foolish i think. Its not hard to assign it.

I was gonna pick it up today but im still a bit unsure.

[mistajeff]

Terrible comparison, but there don't seem to be any noticeable differences between PS3 and 360. Texture pop-in is thanks to Unreal 3.

[Crystallis]

Nice try but I used to play FFXI on the 360 and there is no way 1000 players were ever seen on screen. You could see only about 40 players at once even though there were hundreds fighting monster's. While fighting those monster's you could see players disappear then reappear b/c the 360 as well as the FFXI servers could not handle 400 players being visible at once, and at the time I didn't expect neither the 360 or SE servers to be able to do this.

It will be interesting to see if FFXIV can have all players visible at once, I doubt it though.

[Obama]

I believe the only thing the xbots can do is to brag about muliplatform games, which doesn't make sense in this case since they both look identical. I don't see bots talking about exclusives anymore?

[Crystallis]

B/c the 360 exclusive's are not even in the same league as the ps3's. Thats why they cant talk about their exclusive's. All they have left to talk about is sales...which is a failed argument considering none of the 360 fanboys profit from it.

[JonnyBigBoss]

PC all the way.

[gameman]

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