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Forza vs. Gran Turismo: A War of Words

Kazunori Yamauchi makes a rare statement about "the competition". GTPlanet compares that to what's been said about him...

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Ron_Burgundy5327d ago

it's ridiculous to have GT and Forza in the same sentence!!!

Turn 10 specializes in last gen tech!!! PD is the future!!!

ILLINOIS5326d ago

GT5 is the best sim racer ever. If you are a fan of sim racing this game is a must own. Forza offers more choice as far as racing goes. I wish GT5 had the arcade racing option and some of the other Forza race options. As far as graphics, game physics, and game play there is no contest. GT5 wins hands down.

Blaster_Master5327d ago

I cant believe that Turn 10 dev said that Kaz is "Handing the baton to him"?! That is just pure blasphemy! I will admit that Forza 3 is the closest thing when it comes to competition to GT5. But just because its the closest thing doesn't mean that they are even close when it comes to the overall delivery of the product. I bet anyone, no I promise all of you that GT5 is gonna exceed everyone's expectations, including Turn 10. That dev thinks his game as GT5? Ha! They aren't even in the same league.

paskowitz5327d ago

I will preemptively give my reaction to this story as I assume nothing good can come of it... Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.

chaosatom5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

If they did, then their jaws will drop.

Sony's first party developers bring quality and showmanship to the gaming industry.

Tachyon_Nova5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Polyphony (Gran Turismo devs) are like a giant holding the midget (Turn 10) at arms length kicking them in the balls. Doesn't really deserve the term 'war' if you look at it sensibly, like me :)

@ below:
1: What exactly are the top PC racing simulators?
2: Forza is definitely closer to PC than GT, because GT is further in front of it than Forza is behind it.
3: Who are you to say that people who believe that GT is better than Forza are wrong? It is opinion, and the majority of people happen to find GT to be better than Forza
4: If Forza 3 was on PS3 - It would look better, obviously, and it would have more competition when it comes to proper racing games

I thought that GT the original was the best, just because it was so far ahead of the pack. And it's not the truth, it's opinion.

EvilBlackCat5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

1. How many of you have played the best 4 PC Racing Simulation Games and have the ballz to comment that Gran Turismo series have been the best racing simulation series ever?

Oh and by the way please mention the best 3.

2. How many of you believe that Gran Turismo series is more closer to PC Racing Simulation than Forza series?

3. How many of you have played Forza series and prefer Gran Turismo? Ohhh in this one i dont really care about your opinion here because if you prefer GT.. dude lol you are just a poser.

4. What if Forza3 was also a game on PS3? Which one will you say is a better racing simulation game?

Seriously i played all Gran Turismo and i know every true racing fan that played them too will have same opinion... the best Gran Turismo game is... YUP! you know wich one >> GT2 << and no matter what your biased brain tell you... ITS true!

http://www.insidesimracing....

@ above GT2 is the best GT game of all.

Best 3 PC Racings are

Live for Speed 2
rFactor
GTR

Ragz0175327d ago

"As this war of words plays out, it’s becoming evident that, to Yamauchi, it may not be a “war” at all. As we learn more about him, he appears to view himself as an artist, judging his work by the standards of his own ideals. Likewise, when analyzing the work of his peers, he does not try to compare it to his own – instead, he attempts to understand their interpretation of what a racing game should be, and how their work may have lived up to their own goals."

= Class

PeptoBismol5327d ago

I was waiting for you to post again so I could add you to my ignore list.

thanks

and if there's anyone who's "biased" here, it's YOU

Perkel5327d ago

@ evil black cat

uhh .. and why do you even think that f3 is better than gt5 ?

last full gt was gt4 on playstation 2,

GT5P Prologue already showed us what can we expect of full gt5.

also gt5p showed us that this build nailed physic better than any console racing sim. Feel of car is amazing.

and one more thing. What are pros of Forza? I see clearly that, only painting cars and auction house is worth something. Everything else is worse or less.

There is also good tuning shop in Forza series, but last tuning shop in gt was in gt4 and this was generation ago, so gt5 tuning shop could be mindblowing.

Graphic is absolute win for gt,

And the most importand thing in ever racing game is car.

400 vs 1000 ??? it's not even half..

EvilBlackCat5326d ago (Edited 5326d ago )

What make you believe that GT5 is better than Forza 3?

1000 Cars over 400? The most important thing? Really?

Graphics?

What happen to simulation and tuning calculations?

If Gran Turismo 5 dont give us a racing simulator were cars react to tuning calculation and handle real close like in real life or similar to the best PC racing Sims... Forza 3 outshine GT5.

-Because 1000 cars don't make me buy a racing sim and don't make the simulation better. Its just a lot of cars to choose. Are you planning to use them all? Because i bet you will be using like 200 of them mark my words.

-Graphics are necessary but they don't have an impact in my steer wheel.

So you are a GT5 biased fan or a Racing simulators enthusiast?

You call me biased? Ooh yeah right this is a PS3 site i forgot that.

ryuzu5326d ago

PC sims eh? You want to compare those to F3 and GT5? Heh.

Well, firstly your list is wrong. Thes best sims on PC atm:

1) iRacing
2) LFS
3) netKarPro
4) GTR2

As for F3 - it is a long way behind anything on PC and PS3 for 1 simple reason. There are no good wheel controllers for the 360.

Until the 360 has a controller good enough to match the hardware available on PC (and PS3 by association) the 360 remains a hobbled simulation platform. In fact it was the lack of a good controller for F2 that started me looking at PS3 & GT5P for console race simming - I haven't looked back since.

r.

frostypants5326d ago

On one hand you have Forza fans b*tching Turn 10 out in the Forza forums for coming up woefully short in the graphics department and thus breaking promises on that front (by releasing fake "gameplay" screenshots). Then you have people continuing to defend Turn 10. Face the facts, folks...Forza 3 is good, but they fell way short of the hype. And that's all those statements were about: generating hype. Greenawalt has egg on his face.

prunchess5326d ago

It barely reaches the GT 4 mark of standard and that's a PS2 game.

Turn 10 know that once GT5 is released Forza 3 will be quickly forgotten.

If Turn 10 were smart they'd actually be speaking to Polyphony to see where they could make improvements to the Forza series.

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-Mezzo-5327d ago

GT5 will kill dirt in Turn !0's face, thats all i can say.

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i_am_interested5327d ago

interesting, graphics aside, how is forza 3 different from 2?

GameOn5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Too much to list, but it's the obvious improvements like more cars, tracks and upgrades, c0ckpit view, improved paintshop and handling etc. The type of improvements over the last game you would expect.

Oh yeah and there's all the great multiplayer options, and car flipping, and tire deformation, oh and don't forget that multi screen feature. Oh and don't forget drag racing either.

And the Pièce de résistance... it comes on 2 discs.

GameOn5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

And so what.. Forza 3 will be the best racing sim you can get your hands on till GT5 next year. Nothing stays on top forever, Forza will still be the second best and you can't complain about that. Who cares what Turn10 said, just enjoy the game and forget about the PR bullshit the devs spew.

chaosatom5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

LOL.

That's the best part about Forza 3? I can see why ppl prefer DVD /XD

EvilBlackCat5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

2.2 - And still
GT5 is going to destroy it.

Ohhh really?

How? because unless Polyphony Digital imitate them there is no chance.

You know what here this GT vs Forza 3 is just stupid because this palce is full of PS3 biased gamers that are not true Car & Racing enthusiasts and just prefer GT series over Forza because that is the only "Racing Sim" (Yeah right) that they can play in the PS3.

Its going to be really difficult for GT5 outshine Forza3

yeah yeah yeah i know disagree all you want but you cant change truth.

http://www.insidesimracing....

This is the best Gran Turismo
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GameOn5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

And I lost a bubble for seemingly nothing. Me sad :(

someone likes that disagree button a bit too much me thinks.

Ragz0175327d ago

forza 3 = great physics + great graphics

forza 2 = great physics + ok graphics

^^ those words are not mine btw.. that is according to turn 10..

therefore forza 3 = forza 2 + great graphics

right ?

lool they took 2yrs to upgrade the graphics.. no class noobs.. ha

TheReaper425326d ago

Someone should give evilblackcat a tissue and a first aid kit. He seems like he's about to pop more than one blood vessel.

Play what you're going to buy and that's that. Although those wordings from turn 10 is not too humble.

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Forza Motorsport players slam devs for using 14 year old car model

Throughout its marketing campaign Forza Motorsport has been described as being “built from the ground up,” but some players are skeptical after discovering a reused car model that first appeared in Forza Motorsport 3.

Flawlessmic226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

yep been playing it all day and the newer car models look ok at best and the older models looks downright ugly and out place. im playing on pc at 4k with everything on ultra with dlls performance mode and the cars just look completey off, even the paints looks off, gt7 on ps5 shits on the car models here and its not even close, espcially paint and materials wise!!

its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesnt get close to living up to what it should be.

i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind.

the fuel and pit stop additions to forza are just surface level additions so they could say hey we did it, i am yet to see a meaningful incorporation of either one and the systems that would facilitate it being genuine are not there.

I cant control my power to fuel ratio during the race like i can in gt7, there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy, not that pitting is necesarry at all.

rain doesnt cause a slippery surface or aqua plaining nor does it tell you just how wet the track is like gt7 which informs you if inters or full wets are needed, no weather map, nothing.

its really just shinear version of previous forza, if you want proper sim racing where actual strategy comes in to play with longer races, with real pitt stops and having to manage your actual fuel effectively during the race then this game isnt it, go get gt7.

if you want a really simple and basic sim racer then this is for you.

majorly dissapointed, i thought this was the one game from MS that would hit all the right notes, in reality built from the ground up for next gen was a bullshit line and and its not even better than a cross gen game released a year and half ago.

MTRNYC226d ago

One big thing I feel makes GT7 so much better is that they surface mapped all the tracks so they have actual imperfections which means that sometimes the fastest path is slightly off the expected path because you have to avoid the imperfections to maintain traction.

GT7 is by far the more realistic racing game. It's kind of funny because they claim they reworked the whole driving and physics system to compete with GT Sport and Forza's not even close to as realistic as even GT Sport was and GT7 is way better than GT Sport.

Stanjara226d ago

Excellent write up.
I follow SuperGT and in the preview of the game he was not impressed with improvements.
Said it felt the same as FM7.

The whole time I was searching for ray tracing in race and it was not present.

Built from ground up my ass.

(Yes yes I know there is a performance mode and a visual mode I know)

P.s. You can choose your starting grid position. WTF is that in a sim race?

Flawlessmic226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

@mtrnyc

its all the little details, you see the track evolve in gt7 with the rubbers marks, and the marbles from the tyres start building up off the racing line on the side, you can actually see the tyre deformation when racing an f1 car for instance.

honestly, im actually shocked at how much better and more advanced gt7 is than this game, this is literally just a surface level sim racer, it would make a fantastic entry point for someone new to sim racers but my lord does it pale in comparison to gt7 where it counts

@stanjara

yep picking your starting spot is dumb AF for this type of game

dumahim226d ago

"there is no timing hud for the whole grid, so i dont know how far ahead or behind i am or when drivers are pitting so i could plan my strategy"

Wait, really? They don't have the distance or timing splits options for the HUD anymore that's been there from the start, after they add pit stops, when you'd really need something like that?

Flawlessmic226d ago

@dumahin

i will correct myself slightly just opened the game to see if it was option and you can turn it on for single player races, it was set to multiplayer only but again if the races were really gonna need it they wouldve had it set as on but no the races are like i said simple surface level sim racing.

but to answer the question correctly yes it actually does have the option, you just need to turn it on

Mr Logic226d ago

So...you're rendering at 1080p. Much wow

eagle21226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

And what about the loading times in Forza? They sure are super fast in Gran Turismo 7 (PS5). :)

outsider1624226d ago

"i genuinly thought this was gonna improve on GT7 in every way, when in fact at this in point after 10 hours the only thing i think is better is the standing start races as opposed to gt7s god awful chase the rabbit races starting 25 seconds behind."

This! I really hated this for every race it's always a running start and always last. And we all know the reason for that which is the bad ai.

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yeahokwhatever226d ago

"its by no means a bad game but it is again another hype job from MS doesn't get close to living up to what it should be" <-- Spot on. I've been playing since the second it launched and I'm a little disappointed too. You're totally right about the paint..its whacky how bad it is visually. I have pretty damn good hardware and the frame pacing is totally jacked up. I wanted a close-to-GT7 game on my PC, unfortunately Forza is the furthest from GT that its been. :-(

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isarai226d ago

Reusing assets is ok, but 14yr old model, when it's a hero model? That's just lame.

MTRNYC226d ago

“built from the ground up,”

This isn't even the oldest models, they are recycling, there is stuff dating back to the 360 in the game.

Everything is all lies with these guys.

Enjoy the battle pass and the DLC to get cars and tracks in your live service b.s. game, meanwhile we'll be getting them for free in GT7.

outsider1624226d ago

Built from ground up for the Series S most probably. I mean that's 75% of the audience right there.

Father__Merrin226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

Forza motorsport doesn't have that traditional campaign but rather just tick box races. Most reviewers are omitting this

Flawlessmic226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

i dont mind how they have done it but, theres not a whole lot of content race wise which is a let down, and the car RPG thing sucks balls.

i unlock the same things in the same order everytime and make the same upgrades in the same order everytime.

rather than being able to look at the strengths and weakness of the car im using and put my credits into upgrading the weakess im stuck upgrading parts i dont really need cause thats all i can do and by the time i do unlock what i really wanted, lo and behold the 5 race series is over and its on to a new car to rinse and repeat my unlocking and applying my upgrades

IRetrouk226d ago

I remember this being a massive negative for another game a couple gens ago👀

dumahim226d ago

On one hand, that was kind of a bigger deal since the old models didn't have an interior so it was all just a black silhouette inside. But on the other hand, they made no claims that it was built from the ground up and were clear there were premium models that did have the full interior and some without.

IRetrouk226d ago

I agree, it was jarring and not needed in my opinion, but it didn't make the game bad or worse, yet that was the impression around here at the time if you remember.

yeahokwhatever226d ago

i uh....liked the black interiors. I got the perspective without the distraction. I wish it was an option.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow664d ago (Edited 664d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989664d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow664d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989664d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled664d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher664d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim664d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow664d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721731d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1731d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1731d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1731d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921731d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1731d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1730d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21730d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1729d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821731d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1731d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1731d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1731d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1731d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1731d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1731d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1730d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21730d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1730d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1730d ago (Edited 1730d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1730d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1731d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1731d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1731d ago (Edited 1731d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1731d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1731d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1731d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1730d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811730d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1731d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1731d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1731d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1731d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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