Gameswire: Bayonetta PS3 vs X360 comparison

From Gameswire: "24 shots; pure-digital capture - the definitive comparison"

"Following on from lesser comparison galleries on other websites, where a few fuzzy, washed-out analogue-capture screenshots were compared, here's a 24-strong batch of proper screenshots for each version."

"Quality AND quantity."

"So when we say proper screenshots, we mean both versions were captured using direct-digital capture - what you see here are the exact frames generated by the consoles. No analogue degradation here."

"Our 360 is on 'Expanded' HDTV setting."

"Our PS3 is on full RGB with Super White set to on."

[deadreckoning666]

This is ridiculous, the 360 version looks almost night and day better.
If they knew they couldn't handle the PS3, then they've should't have done it.

[thorstein]

compared the best quality pics from both. I never really thought of this as a "must have" game anyway. I think it will be mediocre at best (on both systems) and since the work on the PS3 is haphazard then it will be sub-mediocre.

[Gameswire]

I found it a lot of fun when playing earlier.

You've got to be into this type of madness though, granted.

[gameangel]

I liked it.

[happyface]

wow the ps3 version looks terrible!

[sunnygrg]

Sega should hand over the "ironing out" responsibilites to SCE and see miracles :]

[table]

they really arn't that much different. The 360 looks better because it has that shiney look that we usually see with these multiplat comparisons. I think gamers should take these comparisons with a grain of salt, I say gamers, I mean fanboys.

[starvinbull]

Pretty clear cut that the PS3 version is much worse.

[droid and bot]

PS3 side looks a bit blurry

any way
if you are a PS3/PS3 ONLY owner
and you dont like what you see + dont like the game

head to GOW3 and GOW:CE

well TBH GOW3 looks leaps and bounds better than this

GOW in 1080P and 60fps ..... FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

[TheBlackSmoke]

Man some of you guys really need to understand the meaning of phrases like "night and day" and "superior" before you state your opinion as fact. If you have to do a side by side screenshot comparison in order to notice differences then those comments do not apply. Funny how the same people said theres no difference between ng2 and ngs2 when that was night and day.

Yes the 360 version looks sharper and the colours seem to be more saturated but in all honestly this is not a MASSIVE difference and in the end PS3 owners will still play and experience bayonetta no matter how much fanboys try to play it down.

Ps3 slim is on a crusade to prove the 360 is superior when the outcome of this game is down to the developer and not the PS3. Why do 360 fanboys keep going with the same tired mulitplat argument when games like uncharted 2 exist?

[Information Minister]

Damn! You beat me to it... I was about to make the same comment about NG2 and NGS2.

Fanboy vision is really something isn't it?

[commodore64]

@ blacksmoke.

"Why do 360 fanboys keep going with the same tired mulitplat (sic) argument when games like uncharted 2 exist? "

.. because, for every ONE 'uc2', there exist about FIFTY inferior ps3 multiplats.

.. because said multiplats make up over 95% of regular gamer's libraries.

Pretty good reasons, imo.

[Glen95]

...there are some area where it betters the 360 version. In some of the shots, her hair looks really jaggy on the 360 version, and looks great on the PS3.

[Voice of Reason]

Yeah, you might be right there. I think the colors are a bit more subtle on the PS3 version as well, which I think looks a little nicer.

[UncleJaysus]

What's weird is the cutscene shots on PS3 look as if they're lower res than in-game.

[Drebin 928]

after playing the demo I know I won't even bother renting this game. I can handle sh*t graphics, cheesy vo, and nonsensical story, but all in the same game? No thanks platinum. It's 2009 and you need to seriously step it up. Rather put my cash on NGS2 till GoW3 comes and shows you what QUALITY is all about.

and this isn't a ps3 exclusive rant, the graphics in general suck

[Fishy Fingers]

Certainly a difference, which, with all the news was obvious, but really, not as bad I was expecting. Or at least, not as bad as it will be made out to be.

DMC with side boobs.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Hmph.

[Voice of Reason]

"DMC with side boobs"

And bare buttocks. Can't forget the buttocks.

[gameangel]

Oddly the 360 shots do make it look like the PS3 version has Super White turned off, but, as the article says, it is actually on.

[sack_boi]

Super White is only for Bluray movies and Full range RGB gives saturated blacks.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Hmph. Pathetic, dont take on what you cant handle.

[PS3 slim]

Has more to do with the 360 team not holding back the game because of PS3 and the Sega team not being able to match the game with PS3's hardware.

[PS3 slim]

You don't wan't to take pics from this site as fact they touch up the PS3 version of pics to make the PS3 seem on par.

http://www.gfdata.de/archiv... my pics keep getting blocked for obvious reasons. so I added the link to the site.

There is no point of trying to deny it.
http://kotaku.com/5368336/h...

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blo...

[Fishy Fingers]

All your links are broken, at least for me. Do you really think the site would touch up the screen? Because I don't.

Edit: At least you got your links working, but "blocked for obvious reasons", you are desperate.

[UncleJaysus]

Lol, they don't touch up the screens... how is that even possible?

lol...

Anyway, one thing truly shows how wrong you are: their comparison shows the 360 version looks better.

Back on topic: night and day - just look at the texture difference in this shot: http://www.gameswire.net/co...

[gameangel]

If by 'touch up' you mean 'capture properly' then yeah.

Anyone can see that the Gamefront shots were degraded by poor capture equippment.

[Gameswire]

Please explain how we 'touch up' pictures, please, I'm all ears.

Face it, this is nothing more than a sad and desperate attempt to discredit better quality shots that, in all honesty, make yours look rubbish.

[PS3 slim]

"Our 360 is on 'Expanded' HDTV setting."

"Our PS3 is on full RGB with Super White set to on."

Super white is for the PS3 dashboard and movies not games.

Super white and the RGB color format has nothing to do with missing textures, foggy picture, muddy textures, inferior lighting.

EDIT

Disagreeing? games default to the RGB format on PS3 and you can choose between RGB or YPbPr for movies.

[UncleJaysus]

Have you even bothered to look at their comparison... they aren't trying to defend the PS3 version as you seem to assume. Go and see for yourself. Then come back here and apologise to everybody for being such a 'tard.

[gameangel]

"Go and see for yourself. Then come back here and apologise to everybody for being such a 'tard."

LOL

[Gameswire]

Slim, you don't know what you're talking about.

We compared PS3 default gameplay shots with Super white/RGB Full shots back when we first set up our hardware and there is a difference. Or at least there seemed to be at the time. Maybe I'll capture something on both settings to see quite how much difference there is.

Of course, it's highly possible that with your component/analogue capture set up, changing the settings makes no difference for you. As your shots look bad anyway.

[Highatus]

There's no point to try and sway the minds of the ignorant. I tryed to in the other comparison to prove those analog shots were bull by taking a picture of the demo with my camera that looked 100 times better than those that he's claiming are legitimate. Check my comment history if you'd like and you'll see there's no point.

[Dr_Nefarious]

This is more like it. So much for all the other bull shots showing a night and day difference between both versions. There is hardly any difference here other than the resolution is a little higher on the 360, while the better lighting, and aliasing go to the ps3 version. Just goes to show how the bots run crap out the mouth at false comparisons like the ones before this. Face it bots both versions have their superior advantages, and from the looks of it seeing how this game was designed for the 360 the graphics are once again dumbed down to crap. All one has to do is look at UC2, Killzone2, infamous, and on and on to see why this game is dumbed down.

[commodore64]

actually, there is a lot of difference.
The PS3 version demonstrably shows faded colours and less intensity.
Not only that, but the ps3 frametear leaves a lot to be desired.

It is no surprise then, that the article states:

"Anyway, tech aside, which one's better? Well, the 360 version trumps the PS3 in terms of looks. The colours are more vibrant, there's less screen tearing and overall it does seem to be a higher quality build."

No ambiguity there.

All these inferior multiplats on ps3 would indicate that if KZ2 and UC2 were released on 360, with comparable development budgets, they would look the same or even a little better on the 360, thanks to the superior 360 GPU.

Given the available evidence across 300 available games on both platforms, that is quite logical.

Just check out the comparable rendered resolutions and available AA of multiplat games.
More often than not, the ps3 is holding back the 360.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

Check for yourself, it's the factual truth.

[gameangel]

Yeah, those Gamefront shots were just awful. All fuzzy, unclear and washed out. There's no point in doing comparisons if you can't capture actual detail.

[Voice of Reason]

Why the hell would anyone run a PS3 using component anyway?

[Gameswire]

When capturing PS3 games, you need either a debug PS3, or a system for getting by the HDCP on retail PS3s.

The way that most people get around this, is to use component to grab PS3 shots, as the HDCP is then lost in the conversion to analogue. But of course, as Slim's shots show, with analogue comes 'noise' and a loss of quality.

[Voice of Reason]

Ok, that's fair enough then. And yeah, they do look better on digital.

[gameangel]

So I guess that's how Blu-rays get copied a thrown up on torrent sites then? I suppose analogue capture doesn't matter so much when you're downgrading for people to download off torrent sites.

[Voice of Reason]

I presume you could record Blu-rays in digital if you did so from a debug PS3 or one of the bypass systems Gameswire mentioned. Not that I want to try, or ever would. Things are nicer in boxes.

[UncleJaysus]

probably, but it's pointless as they get compressed anyway because no one wants to download 50 gigs.

[Anti-Fanboyer]

And they wonder why PS3 exclusive haves gorgeous graphics...

[Godmars290]

Because their builds aren't base off of something that uses proprietary software?

[thebudgetgamer]

if its better looking on the 360 thats fine as long as i have fun.

[SupaPlaya]

that's like spitting in the face of fanboys.

[thebudgetgamer]

screw fun i game to count pixels and to fight with fanboys, and the system you like sucks.

:)

[Godmars290]

Would say I didn't get where these guys come off calling it "horrible" it the colors being off a shade or two, but hten this is fanboys raising a stink after all.

I expect that if UC2 sells as well as ODST, just not on the first day, we'll hear about how it flopped...

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

People must have really great eyes, even without my glasses i can't see much ostentatious difference. Ninja Gaiden 2 & Σ2, that's what i call a real difference.

[madkrazygames]

The game is fun, but I don't think it's pushing the systems graphically, these whole comparisons are for the fanboys, so let them make fools of themselves.

[heylo]

I don't give a flying rat's ass about this crap game since I'm not reliant on multi-plats unlike the bots

[snesfangirl]

also, while you are at it, defend the ps3 and its low resolution, blurry muddy textures. most games are mutliplats, this is 2009, and as usual the ps3 still has inferior games. so much for the mighty ps3 huh.

its the devs.
not the ps3
repeat this for the next 3 years and maybe you and all the other delusional droids will believe it. no excuse for this. enjoy ya blurry ass ps3 games with frame rate issues and sh1t.

[ambientFLIER]

A console needs both exclusives and multiplats to survive.

[dirthurts]

The 360 version does look a tiny bit better (not saw the frame rate in action) but I don't think it's enough to not play the game. As long as the frame rate holds up on the PS3, I would say it's still worth playing.
It does suck that they didn't find a way to match them up, but it's minor differences and the PS3 fans shouldn't get down over it (assuming the frame rates are good).

[DevastationEve]

Xbox 360 version looks solid, PS3 version looks okay too!

[seifer085]

Saw the pics and i thought it looks fine on PS3 so I will rent! but some people think it's a whole different game, anyway I'll always rent it

[tordavis]

I gotta challenge for all you PS3 naysayers. Make a japanese account and download the demo for yourself. It's beautiful. Stop counting pixels and play the games.

Peace,

T

[madkrazygames]

it sure is, but talking to these fanboys is like talking to a brick wall, nothing gets through. I kind feel bad though for Platinum games though, they should've put all their effort into both systems. Gimping one version over the other, is just pure ignorance, seeing how it's a brand new IP. And another thing, Xbox sells like dog poop in Japan. So I don't know what they were trying to accomplish with that move.

[Gago]

the 360 version has better lighting, textures, and anti aliasing

and a far more stable 60 fps

[dacrowxc]

I downloaded the demo and the game is pretty fun. Problem is the graphics are pretty bad. I don't have a 360 to compare it to, but compared to Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 or even Devil May Cry 4, its bad. There's lot of screen tearing, the textures are low res, and blurring everywhere. Either way I am impressed with the gameplay and thats what really counts.

[Fade_Walker]

This is ridiculous! The PS3 has been out for nearly 3 years now; there is no reason why the PS3 and 360 versions can’t look identical.

[Gago]

1. the 360 version is made by Platinum games, while the ps3 version was made by some lesser sega studio

2. sony made the ps3 architecture unnecessarily complected

[GrandDragon]

I wonder where PS3 slim has ran to! LMAO

or maybe snesfangirl is the same user

See what a BIG difference it is when people actually tune their Televisions and set RGB to full

[CobraKai]

screenshots are one thing I heard the frame rate was pretty bad on the PS3.

[edhe]

That 50 gig bluray and/or mandatory install isn't really working on texture quality still is it?

[ambientFLIER]

Seems funny, 'cause the ps3 fans didn't mind all those Forza vs GT comparisons with forza images being compressed and oversaturated.

[raziel6430]

my ps3 do not look like that i have both system and i like the ps3 better