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New Gran Turismo 5 Screenshots (Part 2)

Part 2 includes the "Mercedes Benz SLS AMG", just unveiled at the 2009 Frankfurt Motor Show, and other luxury sports cars from around the world.

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MetalGearRising5333d ago

Once Gran Turismo 5 Screenshots start showing up you can tell they are threatened by Forza 3.

GWAVE5333d ago

Because PD was constantly talking about being "the DEFINITIVE racing sim" and "the ONLY racing sim shipping this generation", right?

OmarJA5333d ago

Always commenting first, who's threatened?

The gaming GOD5333d ago

-Bribing internet polls
-Message board trolling
-MicrosoftPR mentioning the competition every third sentence

So you tell me honestly, who is the one threatened here? Because from what I can tell, it sure as hell isn't Polyphony Digital

LordMarius5333d ago

If the game is far from release, I dont see why need so many screenshots lately, is as if they are reminding people of its existence

GWAVE5333d ago

The game isn't so far from release.

Seeing these screens shows that - graphically - Forza 3 cannot compete. Hey, don't get me wrong. Forza 3 has been getting good reviews, but even those reviews say that the graphics could have been a bit better.

Shadow Flare5333d ago

Oh must be CGI again. Yeah. Must be. I'm basing this purely on that forza 3 looks nowhere near this good. So it must be CGI

Oh wait, sorry, the game actually does look this good. Because its on PS3

leeger5333d ago

what people can't realize is that the screenshots are like taken from photomode which means they are running on the in game engine but post processing enhancements were added like AA. But the gameplay graphics shouldn't be that far, think of the cutscenes in Uncharted.

thereapersson5333d ago

We've already seen these twice now, in two different articles.

beardpapa5333d ago (Edited 5333d ago )

The gaming community seems to forget that GT5 has WRC, nascar, and weather/night time racing. I wonder if reviews will forget that too. Btw, I just saw pictures of the Citroen by GT car in night time at the beyond3d forums. Looks pretty good.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

not sure if they're real but hey, looks good.

cmrbe5333d ago

but PD just wanted to work more on damage modeling. I think the extra 6 months is all about damage. The other components are ready as is.

randomwiz5333d ago (Edited 5333d ago )

I doubt that those night racing pics are real... they don't look like gt5 standard, but we all do know that GT5 has night driving:
http://www.gtplanet.net/for...
"There were cars running at night. "

this has got to be the best GT5 pic of a car ever
http://i34.tinypic.com/2ppw...

Mindboggle5333d ago

Meh, replay mode with 16x AA.... Pointless screenshots really.

Panthers5333d ago

The game is probably finished pretty much, they are just touching up and adding damage and stuff. PD seems to be perfectionists so they arent going to release it until its done in their eyes.

EDIT @ 1.7 That is my desktop background right now. Amazing pic.

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fishd5333d ago

DUDE!
I use the same pic as my desktop wallpaper!
*High five*!

fishd5333d ago (Edited 5333d ago )

Double post for teh lose!

Maddens Raiders5333d ago (Edited 5333d ago )

should come with a dosage warning label.

rareairtone5333d ago

All forza needs is gt5's lighting engine. Then it could definitely compete if not surpass gt5 because of the amount of polygons in each car.

however, I know most people really, really care about a game being able to run at native 1080 and they don't do that with 360 games ( I guess it can't?) so probably nobody will agree with me.

PD also has an amazing artistic style.

PD is to Michael Jackson as Turn 10 is to Ph.D vocal professor--Voice professor has spent many years learning to sing the technical way, yet Michael Jackson--untrained--is more well known and grossed more money than his/her lifetime. There's just more natural talent behind PD.

(I'm not talking about Mike's final worth; talkn about all the money he's garnered ever, as if it wasn't spent)

Maddens Raiders5333d ago (Edited 5333d ago )

"Turn 10 is to Ph.D vocal professor--Voice professor has spent many years learning to sing the technical way"

Really?

via 1UP: "some logos and lines on vehicles can look jagged at angles, and a lot of the details surrounding the race courses are unimpressive. The new in-car driver's view is immersive, though it certainly has a steep learning curve. And while the drastic crash damage is good, Forza 3 is easily outclassed by the excellent damage modeling of DiRT 2 and even Need for Speed: Shift. Specifically, cars tend to sport the same generic "scratch" and "scuff" textures when they're hit, and dent deforming seems limited, as well"

I urge you to rethink your analogy, because this is simply not going to fly with GT5.

rareairtone5332d ago (Edited 5332d ago )

okay...GT does not have perfect environments either but what I mainly meant was the actual car modelling. That quote had little do with the actual car models and more with how they can be deformed. For the most part, before cars are damaged in forza 3, the cars in forza 3 have nice modelling..emphasis on THE MOST PART. There are some bad ones in there obviously. Therefore, if we take a majority of the cars out of the forza 3' engine for the environments and we place them in GT's, just the sheer polygonal models, it should look just as good at the least.

GT now has more time to do damage so we can't even compare the damage aspects of the two games now. BY playing the demo, I already know that forza has "damage decals"--it's not that dynamic. They do have multiple levels of damage decals to each part though. It's ridiculous to compare damage in forza with DiRT because that game has freakn rally cars in it! The licensing is different! That 1UP reviewer is acting like he doesn't understand that. It made no sense to compared the damage. The only plausible one was Shift, but even then, aren't most cars in Shift not production cars? Licensing to do damage on those is more lax too. There would be more money going towards the production cars being damaged. The amount of money it'd take to get damage modelling on 400 cars to Shift's level is way more than it took EA to pay for the damage for 80 or so cars...what happened to people looking at numbers and real world institutions as factors??

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St05333d ago

This is going to be a painful wait :(

OmarJA5333d ago

Best looking racing sim period.

Lord_Ranos5333d ago

And best gameplay in a racing sim.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow660d ago (Edited 660d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989660d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow660d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989660d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled660d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher660d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim660d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow660d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721727d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1727d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1727d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1727d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921727d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1727d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1726d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1726d ago (Edited 1726d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21726d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1725d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821727d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1727d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1727d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1727d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1727d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1727d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1727d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1726d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21726d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1726d ago (Edited 1726d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1726d ago (Edited 1726d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1726d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1726d ago (Edited 1726d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1726d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1727d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1727d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1727d ago (Edited 1727d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1727d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1727d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1727d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1726d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811726d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1727d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1727d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1727d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1727d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1764d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1764d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1764d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1764d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1764d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1764d ago (Edited 1764d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1763d ago (Edited 1763d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1764d ago (Edited 1764d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1764d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1764d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121764d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1764d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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