Nippon Ichi Software has updated Last Rebellion's Official Website with a first trailer and many screenshots and artworks.
The game will be relased in Japan this winter.
"No one can argue that Sony's PS3 is packed with some of the best games that have ever been released, much less released this generation. It looks like the library and variety is only getting better with every passing day. Let’s be honest though, not every title that hits the PS3 exclusively in North America smells like roses. A few of the games released here and there have blemished the reputation of the powerful PS3."
Why does Last Rebellion get such a bad rap? There aren't a lot of RPGs on the PS3. LR isn't that bad.
For what should have been a PS2 title? No its not.
Sadly, it was on the PS3. Something that was made all the worse because there were obviously better looking titles out before it.
Why do we always see such lists about PS3 but never about any other system? It just shows PS3 is the most known and superior console. Every publicity is good publicity, like Eazy-E said.
Anyways:
LAIR was a freagin good game, yes the controls are hard but once you figured it out its GREAT!
SOCOM: Confrontation was bad at launch, but after the dozen patches it got, its a solid 8/10 in my books!
Last Rebellion: Its not bad, but its also not good, its just mediocre. Like all the 360 rpg's out there like Last Remnant or Infinite Undiscovery. But when the PS3 gets a bad game, they're making it frontpage news and can't stop talking about it.
Lair was awful (at launch), the graphics were good, the sound was great, but the gameplay was awful, and what made it even worse, is when they said that Lair used the SIXAXIS because it couldn't be done without it, yet they released a patch allowing the game to be played without the SIXAXIS, proving that the mandatory SIXAXIS controls were only a way to push said SIXAXIS. I must admit I haven't played Lair since that update, so I can't judge the "final" game.
SOCOM confrontation was just as awful at launch, I still can't believe that the loading times weren't improved from the beta when the game launched; what's the point of having a beta if the biggest problem with the game isn't going to be fixed months after the game launched?
The only game on that list that was worth playing when I did (usually at launch) was Haze, thanks to the co-op. Not a great game, but playable and enjoyable in co-op.
Edit : sorry about Lair, I thought they said that before the release, but I could be wrong. And please don't call me lazy for not liking Lair.
@STK026
what are you talking about... they never said Lair could not be made without Sixaxis..
Personally, i enjoyed Lair a lot, still one of my favourite game but sure it was not perfect but it worked very well with sixaxis only people who are too lazy or people who listened to others without trying it found it was not worth it.
I rather have have lots of exclusives and some of them bad than having 2 or 3 good exclusives per year
Istanbull, are you blind? There's list of everything on this site don't just weight it all on the PS3
SOCOM was trash
i didnt get to play Lair
Haze embarrassed itself
Genji was not that bad
and didnt get to play Last Rebellion but there need to be the same amount of RPGs on PS3 as there where on PS2. i actully need to go back and finish Rogue Galaxy
@instanbul
I played ff13 on ps3 and it was pretty weak, nothing against my ps3.....but a little game called Lost Odyssey smoked that game in my book, something you forgot to mention with the rest of those other mediocre RPGs....
Edit: plus...ff13 didn't have Mr. Uematsu....LO did....
Seriously, have we - as in the whole of the Internet community - not gone on and on about how FFXIII either didn't deliver or isn't as bad as those who insist that it didn't deliver?
And WTF is the point of bringing up Lost Odyssey much less acting like FFXIII wasn't released on the 360 and the argument that started?
Edit:
More to the point, why are you even bring up FFXIII or JRPGs in general?
@Istanbull
Jesus Christ! thank you! I really enjoyed Lair as well. I feel like if you got over the learning curve you enjoyed enjoyed the game. I played with motion controls and couldn't imagine playing it any other way!
After buying Neptunia at launch, enjoying it and seeing it get ripped to shreds as much as Last Rebellion, I now feel compelled to try Last Rebellion. Especially since it's only $20 now.
there's so many exclusives that some are bound to suck
nobody even remembers Afrika, it's hard to believe there's a PS3 exclusive about taking pictures of animals
I got Lair on release and for it's time i enjoyed it.
It was the first Ps3 game allowed to be played with the psp via Remote play.
Socom Confrontation suffered from a ton of bugs and daved data corruptions at launch but true fans of the franchise stuck with it and enjoyed it. It's a good game.
Haze freaking SUCKED
This goes along with what I said in the past about us forcing ourselves to like certain games because we want to believe they are good. But when we look back, we realize those games weren't good at all, they were just what we had to play at that time!
My idea of a good game is when you buy it, you have lots of fun with it. Several years later, you can still play it and get a few kicks out of it and you can probably get your friends to enjoy it as well!
"There aren't a lot of RPGs on the PS3. LR isn't that bad. "
Nope even then there were too many jrpgs , most good to even dare say that
last rebellion sucks major ass, theres some awesome jrpgs on the ps3 but dude that was awfull
Its HORRIBLE bro. It might seem ok because well you said it there are no good rpgs on the ps3 other than multis like ff13, eternal sonata, and star ocean 4. Ps3 really fell off hard this gen with jrpgs, the 360 has all the amazing ones. I cant comment on other games but sometimes games do get a bad rap like too human which i loved to death. I thought lair looked interesting myself.
There are plenty of JRPG's on the PS3. A lot of them are NIS games like Hyperdimension Neptunia, Trinity Universe, Disgaea 3, etc. There are also games like Valkyria Chronicles, White Knight Chronicles, and others..
@divine Wtf are you smoking, 360 has all the amazing ones, congratulations you have lost odyessy and dbz i mean blue dragon and what else exactly? The ps3 had a slow start with jrpgs this gen, "the ps3 fell off hard with jrpgs" lay off the drugs.
More like you fell on your head hard, and are forgetting that shooters are the dominant genre this gen.
A 360 jrpg gamer ,-_- yeah umm considering the number jrpgs your missing on the ps3, whatever stick to shooters and action adventure games on the 360, because you sure as hell aren't a jrpg gamer.
First time i ever ran to an idiot 360 gamer claiming the xbox has all the jrpgs, the very fact you exclude the many ps3 jrpgs tells me your full of sh^t.
Honestly none of those games were all that bad. They were only bad because they came out during a time when EVERY PS3 GAME had to be 11/10 or else it was a complete flop. Well...not Last Rebellion, but it's not like that many exclusive RPGs came out to begin with other than Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3.
the story wasnt that good but the fight was great idea and the graphics are bad and its short but i wouldnt say its the worst rpg on the ps3
You haven't really played through the game then because Last Rebellion is horrible. There are plenty of decent RPGs (WRPG and JRPG) on the PS3 now.
name some....what I mean is, I want to get a few. I've already played through Persona 3 and Persona 4 for the PS2 on my bc launch model, and loved both.
the only other jrpg i've picked up is Valkyrie Chronicles, which sadly i haven't given too much of a chance b/c i found the cut scenes to be overly wordy and long (yes, I know it's a jrpg). i'm interested in ME2, but cannot stomach shelling out $55 when the xbox version is selling for $20.
When it first came out it was terrible, so many issues. With patches though it become much better. I enjoyed it even though i was terrible at it.
Is Last Rebellion really bad? I don't care about the graphics of that game that much but is the storyline any bad?
If those are the worst exclusives, then the PS3 has a fairly decent library of games.
At worst these games are average or uninspired, and at best you could call them niche.
I quite liked Lair, and despite a patch allowing you to use the thumbsticks, I still used the six-axis. It's the best dragon game since Drakan: Order of the Flame.
I think the author of the article is one of those people that measure games on a 7-10 scale. Anything below that is automatically THE WORST GAME EVAH!!
They could redeem Haze in a well done sequel, felt like a game pushed in development and testing, I could see a game where the mechanics from Haze would work and succeed, it just didn't happen this time.
Also, having only 5 games that could be considered for this list actually says great things about the PS3. There are a boatload of amazing exclusive titles on the system, and many more coming out this year.
check out these two 360 exclusives and tell me HONESTLY which one has the WORST.
Over-G Fighters
Hour Of Victory
I don't wish they didn't exist, I wish the actual time a thought was put into them that they deserved. Especially Lair, which suffered as a launch window title.
Lair is the classic case of the media fastening onto a flawed game and projecting all their, rightful in some ways, at the time, hatred for Sony's PS3 launch arrogance(HS was another, actually good game that suffered nit picking madness imho). Fact is the biggest issue with the game is no patched so those who didn't get the motion controls can use "classic" stick flight which is both easy and enjoyable for all gamer skill levels to my eyes.
Given my head I'd ask Sony to re-relase Lair with a patch or two-one with trophy support and one addressing the other issue I felt plagued the game badly-getting turned round and confused. Patching in a radar/minimap(calling it a dragon sense or something would work)feature for flying etc. Sure, you COULD work on the visuals a little but they still stand up to 90% of current games anyway and the inclusion of ~Lair on this kind of list just smacks of LAZY to this gamer.
LR, sadly, was a VERY weak game for my money and Genji they're entirely right about, sadly.
Which brings me to Haze. Criticizing it AS a PS3 exclusive is the bone of contention for me when all it's issues(bar the AWFUL in house writing-seriously, how did he get that job?) all began because of the politics surrounding 360/MS support being withdrawn. Contracts were changed or pulled and FRD found themselves in a situation where middleware they'd almost finished the game with was suddenly unusable to them. Graphic and physics had then to be made engines for in house for either part or all of the games assets in those areas. Christ, the game looked better and ran smoother a year prior to release according to several sources I trust implicitly.
In short, even with the delays, the wonder is the game got out at all and not that it's a weak, which it is, though through less fault of FRD than you might have thought(writing and acting aside)at the time. Can't agree about the weak game mechanics, though, as the core shooting and nectar effects were spot on and you'd never expect anything bar great core shooting from Timesplitter people anyway-whatever else was wrong. Anyway, i think it disingenuous to call it out as a weak PS3 moment when it was a troubled game because of politics and not hardware shortfalls or dev laziness by and large. Still scope for a good game from the premise in my eyes too.
So, a 50% success and 50% lazy list and 100% non vital!!
We could just as simply have a Wii exclusive mess list, a 360 exclusive mess list, DS,PSP,IPhone/Pad/Pod or even PC. Lt's just pray we don't have to wade through them as well as this one for the millionth time. How many times can we say "Ooh Too Human!?" or "Ooooh Haze?!". Enough is enough when multiplats like CTYD or Turning Point or Blacksite still out crap any of the proper exclusive "abortions" on these lists. Legendary, Any of the Wii ports of the BIA series or REmakes sans motion controls-the list of tat well below the level of these supposed crimes against PS3 gaming are worth much more grief than the regular crap meted out to Too Human or Lair or Ninja Blade FFS.
Oh, forgot Confrontation-a game I've only ever played POST trouble and while I still find it below SOCOM par/Zipper standards handing the reigns to Slant6 was always a risk and a big ask imho. Playing it these days there's plenty to enjoy, plenty to like and it's hardly worthy of a place on a list of leprosy causing games.
Even the venerable DJ ansd Incognito(now Lightbox) had a fair few issues with the amazing Warhawk at the early days-SOCOM:C made it through all that to become a solid if uninspired series entry and, as we all know, Socom is an acquired, pretty core taste in any case.
WHO is being quoted do you comprehend? I just don't quote the air I quote someone who's speaking. In the article I don't know who's speaking because no one is being quoted!
EDIT: You just can't comprehend supreme thinking...
Don't agree with a single one of them.
HAZE was always good enough to exist.
LAIR is pretty good after patching.
Genji had a very nice demo on PSN, and featured some of the best graphics at release.
Socom isn' that bad.
Actually you're going to have to do pretty hard to make me wish the games didn't exist.
Ditto to that: I liked Haze and loved Genji, regardless of camera that did somewhat ruin the gameplay. Critics misunderstood moronic dialogs in Haze as cheesy, but I think they were meant to show what kind of people it takes to believe in Mantel's reasons for war against the rebels. However, rebels dialogs did get repetitive nearing the end. It feels the development got funds cut, or it was rushed for whatever reason.
Haze killed any and all chances for a Star Wars Battlefront 3 game, as they were in charge of making the game, then with the ultra poor reviews and sales for Haze, they closed down.
Pretty much all those games listed were huge fails, but none as much as Haze IMHO.
Wasnt Haze hyped to hell and back for being the game that would look better than crysis?
It was hyped as the Halo Killer and the PS3's first "Killer App". It was really supposed to be a huge franchise for the PS3, instead it killed one of my favorite game franchises.
What the hell are you talking about? You people are just so.. argh! lol
Haze was multiplatform and even in the early stages was rumoured to be 360 exclusive but then for some stupid reasoning went PS3 exclusive 5months before launch.
You don't remember so many 360fans routinely placing Haze on their list of games/exclusives for the 360 that they threw around constantly back then? It was never hyped as a "halo killer" with the PS3 fans. You're just pull sh*t out your arse.
Geez, this is why it's so easy for some console manufacturers to dupe you over and over again. Many have such short memory spans that it's like taking candy from a jar.
... and another thing; You know what's so funny about all the stuff I hear about Haze? Well, I got the game, it's a good shooter but very far from what we expected coming from such high pedigree developers but here's the thing - Haze, to me, played a lot like Halo in pacing and map layout. One just went pew pew pew while the other went ratatat ratatat. However one is view as the worst ever and the other God's gift by the exact same people. I find that very ironic hehe :P
how did haze kill any chances of Star Wars BF3? it was developed by free radical, who became Cryteck UK.
They lost all their tech, there is a whole story about how development was passed on to another company, who then closed down.
SWBF3 is now either not in production or is secretly in production by a totally different company.
Haze didn't sell that bad, close to a million I think. Not for the full price though.
aw really. that sucks star wars BF3 is one of my most hoped for games! stupid haze! i never played it but saw screen shots and thought it looked alright.
I dont get why haze always ends up on these kinda lists. A game is what it is regardless of hype.
My god Genji was a travesty. I like samurai games but as the article says, it fails in almost every aspect of game design.
Haze wasn't actually that bad, at least it had co-op which was quite fun. It was massively over-hyped though.
Is Eat Em Up exclusive? Anyway, that's one of the games i wasted money on this last few months.
I'm actually glad I have last rebllion in collection its unique and battle system is fun. Although its a hard game to recomend to others
uncharted 2 for me. i had to make myself finish that game. besides graphics and voice acting it did nothing outstanding for me. someone please tell me what uc2 does gameplay-wise that no other games do better? honestly man it was so cheesy. oh look drakes gonna fall, nope he finds a grip at the last second AGAIN. guns sound like garbage. halfassed cover system. generic combat overall. and the way drakes controls is so sloppy. infamous and AC has waaaay better controls imo. uc2 is pretty yet simple and(to me) boring as hell. i just dont see why this game is so hyped up honestly
As I do agree it wasn't revolutionary, to me it was just so superbly excecuted. Everything was top notch in it, from visuals, artistic-style, pacing, voice acting, controls, etc. It was amazing rollercoaster ride, which I will take again happily. Tought I can see why it wasn't same for you, or to some others.
On topic; I haven't tryed any of those games, but is Last Rebellion really that bad? JRPGS sometimes get a bit harsh treatment. For example Lost Odyssey was bashed like hell, and it is imo one of the best JRPG out there. Also some here seem to disagree with the article about LR..
i agree, uc 2 did not seem revolutionary to me, other than good graphics not amazing but good, and familiar gameplay.
side note god of war 3 is also overated in the graphics department, i thought GoW3 was really good but graphics are not droolworthy. Killzone has awesome fps graphics though, although no major improvements on the 3rd one
Graphics wasnt outstanding eh? Do you have a hd-tv? If yes you need to lower your expectations of console games.
Poor trolling Rather... Uncharted2 is just as revolutionary as 99% of games out there -which means not very revolutionary at all. Where it gains and beats out other games is in it's execution and in the way everything it attempts to do it does nigh on perfectly given the retrictions of PS3 hardware. It was GOTY on most sites lists that year for that reason.
Many games have tried and failed to become more than the sum of their parts and capture that summer blockbuster movie feel while U2 does it well and seemingly without much effort-though we all KNOW just how hard ND must have worked given the step up from the already good first game just 18 months earlier.
Whatever, to say a game THAT well respected deserves a place among the worst PS3 exclusives available is just silly-by any sane measure there are hundreds of worse games, and bags of PS3 exclusives inferior to not onyl U2 but also the first Uncharted.
Fact is it's equally revolutionary as Gears ever was(a series I love as much as Uncharted BTW even if i do prefer U2's MP for it's verticality and unexpected goodness!), as revolutionary as 99% of platformers and so on with TPS games too. IS SMG2 shit because it merely builds on the excellent
~SMG itself? Halo 3 an embarrassment to Xbox cos it doesn't reinvent the FPS OR the Halo franchise wholesale?
Few games are mould breaking and even fewer are mould breaking AND much cop-that is a hard, System shock way to greatness but it;'s equally fair to go for the Uncharted approach of knowing what your strengths are and building on those , adding a little from elsewhere(and a coupla new ideas) while making it all work PERFECTLY. It's not an easy task either-look at Capcom and the pigs ear they made updating the Resi4 template with the added Co-op for number five, yeah? So, no small task-and I simply don't agree with your control issues, the story and acting are way above video game average standards, script and characters are great and, as much as anything, it's paced perfectly-something most games with cinematic pretensions get horribly wrong(see MW2 for prime example of trying to keep action movie pace for the full length of a seven hour campaign-doesn't work).
U2 isn't my favourite game this gen, nopt even on PS3, but to pretend it's as bad as you are doing is bare faced trolling because even if it's not to your taste(which is a fine argument and one we can't argue over-your taste is your taste)you have to be fair and accept it's not, in any way fair to put it with the donkeys of this generation.
I hated Fallout3, for example, cos of the two, imho, borked shooting systems and because, to me, it lacked 90% of the first two games humour and atmosphere. I hated it-AS A FALLOUT game. However, I can still accept it isn't a bad game-it's a GOOD game but just not MY game or the Fallout I would have wanted them to make. On the samw way as I feel you have been OTT with your U2 moaning I would be as unfair saying FO3 was among the worst RPGs this gen.
That's why your comment seems trollish to me.
@mastiffchild
like i said. what does uc2 do gameplay-wise only that other games dont do better? i think uc2 gameplay is generic so that means im trolling? i never said the overall game was horrible but ill say it is generic in the gameplay department. dont put words in my mouth. as far as it being as revolutionary as gears, then answer this: why cant drake strafe while blind firing behind cover like in gears, a game from 2006? believe what you want but when you take away the shiny graphics and voice acting youre left with an generic action adventure game. i expected more from uc2. this is a forum and i stated my opinion of the game but to you thats moaning. youre moaning cause i dont like uc2. your comment is fanboyish
relax man people are aloud to have an oppinion, at the end of the day its how the game makes you feel. If the game doesnt put a smile on your face its due to your preference. no doubt ND worked hard on the game but games are missing something these days and its uniqueness.
If we talk about pornstars, im sure they all work hard on their bodies, but lets be honest, while they maybe beautiful, we wont always praise the same ones. Everybody's got their cup of tea, you just have to learn to accept that.
im no ps3 fanboy, i like my 360 more but mgs4 is my fave game eva
@Rather-I never put ANY words in your mouth and said it's fine if you don't find anything special about a game most people who played it did-that's why I pointed out my opinon of FO3 which many think is amazing, see? Same with Portal-I think it's a bit dull and too easy(and I'm not the greatest gamer in the world)while others love it to bits I think it's Valve's worst game-for my taste. Thing is I can still see these games are better than the slew of average cack that gets away with it because nobody cares about it.
My point with you was that by pointing out U2 you earmarked it, because of the article topic, as a game without the right to even exist. I just don't think, even if you feel it didn't live up to your expectations or the hype, that it's as bad a game as, say, Turning point, Chop Til You drop and so on-seriously, do you?
Just cos I find a game isn't the "one" fore me doesn't always mean I can honestly say it's pants but that's what you were saying about U2(which isn't my favourite game this gen either, btw, even if I do think it's good)-if you didn't mean that I apologise but the nature of the topic dictated I WOULD see it that way, no?
Also, was calling you out as a troll-I neither know you nor your history. I just felt you were in dangerous waters by calling out U as a game that, as the aticle was talking about-doesn't even deserve to exist. If ou think my comment is fanboyish then, again, that's your opinion(were this a discussion about you slating MGS then maybe you'd be right!)but to bracket the game with Gears seems to destroy that as a point.
Again, the article is about PS3 exclusives that don't DESERVE TO EXIST you brought up U2. If that isn't you saying it IS a horrible, travesty of a game then what is? It clearly isn't, even if you find it "generic" a game that bad now is it-hence why bring it up in these circumstances? THAT'S why I worried you might get seen as trolling but you chosse not to read what I said and miss the point entirely and want to trade insults-that's not why I replied in the first place but there you go. I jest felt you got close to the bone because of the sense you mentioned the game in-I felt a few people would take it the wrong way, that you possibly didn't mean it like that and wanted clarity-which n fairness you have offered me.
But, given all this would you still say U2 belongs in this thread at all? If I said the same thing about Halo in a topic about poor Xbox games I'm sure I'd get called out a lot more harshly than anything I said to you fella, no?
I wasn't being nasty and the only person who put words in your mouth was yourself. Thanks for the reply but I see no point arguing over U2's gameplay because if you find the mix generic you just clearly have different standards and opinions to myself-but since you understand it isn't a horrible game that's OK. OK? I just still don't think it belongs, like MS4 wouldn't, in the kind of list we're talking about and I doubt you do if you're honest and your reply points to this too.
I'll just go back to trying not to wear my Nate PJ's in public dude. Gots to hide that manlove and fanboyism a bit better I suppose. M God! Will ND forgive me for cheating on them with Gears and Cliffy when 3 comes out? the worries of fanboydom.
Kind of missed out on the early PS3 exclusives, but I can tell you Socom Confrontation has come a long way. I can play that game for hours and it has a pretty dedicated community.
Can't speak for the rest though.
Haze
Remember that those idiots at Free Radical are now working for Crytek and did the Ps3 version of Crysis 2.
Yeah, the same idiots who made the single greatest, most fun FPS experience EVER in the Timesplitters series. Just give them the [project for them and watch their cklass show-they were NEVER about GFX. NBEVER. Also Haze was killed by plitics and we don't know just how much PS3 code from Crysis2 is down to FRD or even how free their hands were in usng that PS3 cell architecture with parity the main goal for console versions-even from Crytek. Knocking FRD might seem easy and clever but it's not an open and shut case.
The mess behind Haze has never been fairly brought into the public domain bt from what we DO know it would seem FRD never had much chance-politics, again, tied their hands a great deal. Cannot forgive that acting or the script, mind.
Let them make something they .llove and want to make again(TS4 anyone?) would be amazing.
...and FR are idiots because they knew what made a good game yet they developed and released the tripe that is HAZE.
WTH?
Wow, I remember tha Lair debate back in 2007, sigh, I thought the game was really good, solid story, solid graphics, and even thought the controls were decent. Yeah, hard to learn but worth it in my opinion. Till this day remains one of my favorite PS3 exclusives.
I played Lair before reading any reviews and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I was surprised of the bad rap it got once I was done.
I dunno if this game counted as an exclusive considering it was released first on PSP, but Untold Legends was kinda bunk.
Lair and SOCOM: Conf were both decent. They don't deserve the dishonor of being on that list. The others... well.. yeah they were pretty bad. I can think of plenty worse shooters than Haze, though.
LR is probably the easiest game to plat on the PS3, though... so I guess it has that goin' for it. Yes, its even easier than Terminator!
I'm a sony fan... and I agree with this list.
Lair was shit... admit it.
Haze was worse then swimming in an ocean of cum.
Last Rebellion was more of a fuck up then Charlie Sheen (right now)
SOCOM was just fucking stupid and Genji...
All I remember during my playthrough of Genji was GIANT ENEMY CRAB. HIT ITS WEAKPOINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!!
that nobody has posted a "360's worst exclusives that we wish never existed article" yet. i think someone should because it's only fair. why only focus on the ps3? is it because people try to bring it down in some other way because they know that alot of the exclusives it has trashes most games this gen or what?
I agree,i would rather buy it,play it and judge it for myself.These days you cant believe everything you read.
I agree, Lair was fun when you got good at it. Most people, I feel just didn't want to put the time into the new 6 axis controller.
What a dumb article... Wishing a game never existed? I know there are lots of people out there who enjoyed confrontation even if they are a minority. Also, there are people who enjoyed lair.
let see:
x360:
too human (i knew the game was bad just from the demo alone)
Star Ocean 4 (well before when it was exclusives)- worst acting EVER.
@jesenkyoguide
There are many articles like these already for both ps3 and x360. PS3 is just more popular on n4g and probably because xbox doesn't have that many exclusives.
um speaking of rpg games i think wii has better rpg alone fire emblem pawns all rpg games on ps3 and 360 combined
I think if Sony remade Lair and Haze they'd be better right now. There's a better understanding of the console
Aren't all the games on that list like 3+ years old? How about over hyped 360 exclusives that came out bad we wish never existed. I'll start with a few... Alan Wake, and that's a recent title, Perfect Dark Zero, Halo 3 ODST, and as already stated, Too Human.
I bought a pS3 probably a month or two ago and since then I've been gameflying all the exclusives. I'll give a good or bad rating to all the ones I've played.
God of War 3- good. Might be my fav so far
Killzone 3- good
Resistance 1- bad
Resistance 2- good( huge improvement over 1)
Infamous- bad
Ratchet & clank- bad. Might appeal to younger audience but wasn't working for me
LBP1- bad
Uncharted 1- bad
Uncharted 2- good ( again another sequel that I feel makes the first look like crap)
From what I've played so far, the first entries in each series have been crap but have greatly improved in the sequels. Let's see if that holds true with infamous 2 and lbp2.
Resistance 2 over 1...really??? I thought the boss fights were pretty weak and the game overall was worse than the original.
Idk. You have to look at when I played them. Wasn't resistance 1 a launch title in 2006? I think that's why I can't get into it. I'm sure when it released it was quite good but 5 years later it doesn't seem to hold up. I actually highly disliked R1. I'm having a decent experience with R2, so in my mind R2 is better. Maybe I should have played when it first came out because now the graphics look outdated and the gameplay feels awkward.
That being said, I'm sure R3 is going to be leaps and bounds better than 1 & 2 and I can't wait to play it
never heard of last rebellion, i'd like to give it a try actually.
from videos i googled, it doesn't look too bad, not great, but as an rpg fanatic i'll try any rpg, and unless they're really awful i can usually find a way to enjoy them.
Lair is full of bugs, way too difficult, handling horrible even with the patch.
Haze was not horrible on all fronts, only technically. Story, gameplay and the fact that you can play 4players on the campaign was great.
Genji is good but camera ruined the game.
Don't know anything about last rebellion.
any games from past 2008 on that list ?
OH NO. 360s best multiplat games that we wish were exclusive coming next.
The only thing that was bad about lair was the controls which got patched & we got two more dragons as a apologee for the broken controls.
"People will always debate which genre is most popular among gamers. That’s simply because gamers, like every other hobbyist or animal, have varied tastes and different opinions. Up until this generation of hardware, there was one genre that stayed in the background while quietly deciding which platform won the console war of each previous generation."
I agree that they once had some kind of influence, but does anyone even play JRPGs anymore?
A lot of people still play turn-base JRPGs, when they actually get released. That's the point IMHO. They're enoigh of them.
Read the article, the point is that for every generation of gaming so far the console that had the most JRPG's is the console that also had the highest sales.
Love them or hate them, the guy has a really valid point
@limewax
Correlation is not causation. JRPGs are mostly stagnant messes with no innovation or understanding of audiences out their niche (I'm not talking about the philosophy of whether they need to be.)
I'd say the opposite, they'll have even less influence or importance next time around.
"JRPGs are mostly stagnant messes with no innovation"
And your point of view is not stagnant at all /s
you really need an update on things happenning..
This is why i got a 360, JRPGS
Lost Odyssey (best jrpg)
Blue Dragon (the dragon quest of this gen)
Magna Carta 2 (best battle system)
Vesperia (best tales game)
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata
Enchanted Arms
Resonance of Fate
FF13
Star Ocean 4
The 360 really stepped up although there arnt many anymore. I remember when there was jrpg after jrpg. I was soo hyped for magna carta 2 and resonance of fate, great games. The 360 has a ton of wrpgs also. Its the rpg console this gen. The original xbox had wrpgs on lock with lionhead, bioware, and bethesda and this gen they have even more. Cant wait for ff13vs.
Of course they do, JRPGs don't even get hyped anymore unless it's a Final Fantasy. All these magazines never even really mention them now all they talk about are FPS games and squeals to other games...Hell, they rarely even talk about new IPs.
Just look at Lost Odyssey, it was amazing and it was a game that never even really got talked about, Infinite Undiscovery was good too but people seen that graphics weren't amazing so they threw it aside. Star Ocean was good as well but people cried over voice acting. -_-
"The Next-Gen Console Winner will be Decided by the JRPG"
In Japan... yes.
In the rest of the world... No.
A bit off-topic, but that picture is closer to how I imagined a CGI Tifa looking, instead of how she looked in Advent Children.
Yea. I never understood why she looked like that in the original game's cut-scene and then she looks completely different in AC.
JRPG? if you mean action will decide it, then yes. Assassin's Creed, Castlevania AND THE LIKE.
You're a fool. I don't mean that in a mean way, but anyone who thinks Assassin's Creed and Castlevania are decided who wins, must be out there. If they were exclusive, they MIGHT have an impact.
Hmmm I would have said Next-Gen console winner would be decided by FPS rather than JRPG.
Every man and his dog plays FPS games and when you get massive JRPG releases like FF13 that fail to deliver (not an epic fail, but a fail for many) that doesn't do the genre any good. Most people who had never really experienced a FF game before are probably looking at the franchise now and thinking 'whats the big deal?'
FF XIII wasn't a JRPG. It was a horrible attempt by SE to merge JRPG and WRPG. The only real JRPGs I find are the rare Japanese imports or localized games like Hyper Dimension Game Neptune.
Valkyria Chronicles isn't even an RPG yet its consistantly listed as a JRPG. FF franchise is commonly known as JRPG.
Was just a reference point for what is considered, to date at least to be the biggest (by commercial standards) JRPG to be released.
valkyria chronicles is an rpg , just like disgaea
strategic or turn based, both are Jrpgs ..
Valkyria damage is based on stats and luck , same with movements . you manage a team of soldiers/heroes and go toward victory ..
heck they even got classes to choose from and recruitment of team members
@LimeyOtoko
Your logic is flawed, Demon Souls was made in Japan but it that doesn't make it a JRPG...its a WRPG.
And Valkyria Chronicles was a very good game, terrible game...how do you come to that conclusion?
@caseh - I know exactly what you mean. GameFly has games that are nowhere near RPG listed as such.
Valkyria Chronicles isn't an RPG?
Um, the more enemies you fight, the more you level up. That's like, the definition of an RPG.
They took a TRPG like FFTactics or Disgaea, added defensive firing, and voila.
The definition of RPG etc has become blurred over the years.
Look back to older PC games like XCOM and Jagged Alliance, FAR more depth than Valkyria yet the EXACT same play style yet they were always called Turn-Based Strategy which is far more fitting than JRPG which is what i would associate with games like Final Fantasy, Star Ocean etc etc
These days games like Valkyria get classed as JRPG just because troops have an exteremly basic leveling system and the art style resembles anime. *shrug*
Not really. Did those games you name have experience-based growth?
That's basically the most important factor.
Q: Does fighting the same thing over and over make me stronger?
A: Yes.
Conclusion: Probably an RPG.
See also "Can you level grind in it?" VC was as grindy as Dragon Quest, heheh.
One extremely great Jrpg could tip the scales...I have not seen one so badas$ this gen yet that I can recall.
FF VII was the nail in the Saturn's coffin. And that was early in the lifecylce.
The article has a good point. Gamers have a short memory though, in every generation we get great WRPG's, who get tons of awards as well (see morrowing and KOTOR) yet its the JRPG's who are remembered the most, and carry on the most sales across all regions.
I highly doubt people will remember Final Fantasy XII (in truth, they will try to FORGET IT). As for WRPGs, Mass Effect, KOTOR, Fallout and now Dragon Age... I highly doubt they'll get forgotten pretty soon.
FFXII, or any FF genrates more forum bandwidth than those games. FFXII is still highly regarded, Fallout was better in previous generations, mass effect sold poorly, and dragon age had the terrible accident called Dragon age 2. KOTOR is not forgotten, no game is, and its still a better game than most WRPG's this generation.
what im saying is the story repeats itself, in the end JRPG's are always the ones who collect more popularity, specially amongst non hardcore gamers, across all regions, whereas WRPG's gather the most sales on US territory. I mean dragon quest IX alone sold almost more than mass effect 2 and New vegas combined. FFXIII the same and pokemon as well as Kingdom hearts. Its a powerhouse that shouldn't be underestimated.
@Troll-without-Bridge
You actually bring up a better point: Morrowind and Kotor.
Before those games, console players had to live with lousy JRPGs that had ridiculous plots, terrible writing and zero freedom and choice - which is the thing that defines a proper RPGs.
Proper RPGs lived in the realm of the PC for decades: The Ultima series, SSI games, Fallout, Planescape, Neverwinter, Diablo, Krondor, Lands of Lore, the almighty Baldurs gate... the list goes on.
Once console gamers started getting the WRPG treatment thanks to Morrowind and KOTOR and realized how lacking most of the JRPG games they played were - it suddenly tipped the scale. This is basically what killed JRPGs and made them almost completely irrelevant for this generation.
Some JRPGs still have a cult following, but it's the Western RPGs and RPG hybrids (like Borderlands and Fable) that get both the sales and the recognition this gen.
There's a few things that kills your logic:
1- timeline, while morrowing and KOTOR were a success on consoles, they were still pretty much neglected for Dragon quest VIII, FFX or Even FFXII. Then you have the fallacy for thinking that people only like JRPG's "till something else better comes along". Thats a huge misconception because PC gamers, and gamers in general always had access to great JRPG's and WPRG's simultaniously (fallout, baldurs gate as opposed to Chrono trigger, FFVIII, FFIX and C.Cross to mention a few, gamers made the choice for Jrpg's because thats what appealed more to them.
2- You say that JRPG's are irrelevant this generation, yet they still manage to get more sales and popularity amongst gamers of all demographics and sectors, whether hardcore gamers or not, then your regular WRPG. You can say things are pretty much balanced out, but the JRPG as a style of RPG's still manages to do very strongly across all platforms.
@TWB:
"while morrowing and KOTOR were a success on consoles, they were still pretty much neglected for Dragon quest VIII, FFX or Even FFXII"
No they weren't neglected. They simply didn't sell on the same console or had the same userbase so if you're trying to make a "who sold better" point then it's irrelevant (WRPGs were almost exclusively offered on the Xbox while JRPGs were mainly on the PS2).
Only in this generation we the PS3 offers these kind of games, and you can see exactly how well WRPG sell and score against JRPG on consoles.
Oh, and if you're talking critical reception - then I don't know any JRPG with better scores or critical reception then KOTOR. I'd hardly call over 100 GOTY awards "neglected".
"Thats a huge misconception because PC gamers, and gamers in general always had access to great JRPG's and WPRG's simultaniously"
I think that you're having the misconception here:
Gamers in general don't always had access to WRPG. You *ASSUME* that all console gamers had access to gaming PCs all the time, whereas for the majority of the population this is not really true (unless you have some statistic to back you up).
Oh, and even for dual owners you're missing one thing: I for example was well aware back in the 90s that WRPGs offered me a better personal experience. But I still got games like Star Ocean for my SNES simply because that is what I was able to get on the console.
"2- You say that JRPG's are irrelevant this generation, yet they still manage to get more sales and popularity amongst gamers of all demographics and sectors"
No they don't. I already mentioned that some JRPGs still have a cult following, and FF XIII is obviously a big seller - but that's the exception not the rule.
And even a behemoth like FF XIII is pretty much at the same ballpark figure (of 6 Million units) as Fallout 3.
Try to compare how well other JRPGs performed on the X360 and PS3 in comparison with the WRPG I mentioned. I would be more then happy to see even one counter example (except for FF XIII).
The JRPG was a contentious subject this generation but ultimately played no role whatsoever. So I have to disagree with the thesis.
So who lost this current Generation??? The system with the lowest hardware sales or software sales or both. The PS3 is hold both those titles to date.
What will win the next war is backwards capability... and i mean full capability.
Well I guess no one wins then cuz JRPGs suck this generation and are severly lacking
I'm sorry but this won't be the case.
JRPG's did *help* Sony win both previous generations, with helping the PS1 more than the PS2. But as for now? Nope.
For some reason, now it all comes down to feature sets and console price. Not to mention more online games = more profits. We've hit a point now where if games lack a multiplayer mode, people generally look the other way.
So really, the title should be "the next gen console winner will be decided by the feature sets, console price and multiplayer games".
The whole reason JRPGs existed was because the technology was too limited to make the WRPGs games we have today. I see no point in them unless you experienced them back in the day and miss that type of game. I played plenty but I love WRPGs over JRPGs any day. I like to be immersed in the role playing environment and hands on. Not merely a spectator with slight input.
Look, even if you're some kind of weeaboo JRPG fanatic, you have to be crazy to believe that the sub-genre is anything but a niche market at this point. The Wii's success was apparent LONG before it became the go-to system for JRPG fans. In fact the best selling JRPG this gen (by a long shot) wasn't even on the Wii. It makes absolutely no sense to assume that JRPG's are somehow magically responsible for the Wii's massive, breakaway success this gen.
In general, JRPG sales and scores are down considerably (in the U.S.) from last generation. Not that you kooky Wapanese crazies can't still enjoy these games...just stop trying to build them up into something more than they are. They're released here for a very specific demographic.
NowGamer: The PS3 has brought us some unforgettable classics, and some unforgettable stinkers...
I've put about 200 hours into MAG....
I guess that goes to show the quality of the PS3 line up when MAG is one of the worst exclusives...
r.
mag was very overhyped and had poor overall quality and gameplay if you compare it to how awesome they made it look at E3. alot of people were disappointed
@Dave
I think it was the other way round. There was a lot of expectation prior to last year's E3 until it got demo'd. After the demo people were a bit underwhelmed by what they saw.
The beta later in the year didn't help much but I stuck with it, and after release I began to understand what was good and bad about MAG.
It's not perfect at all, but it offers something no other platform (including PC) manages, requires skill, teamwork and has for that period been solid and largely lagless.
New DLC today too :)
r.
I'm another that have over 200 hours in. Loved every bit of it. Met a lot of people playing MAG.
"why did they put that on the list, why they put this on the list"
This is just some article some dude in his under pants by his computer wrote down when they were bored and didn't know what to do to bring more hits to their site so they created a list.
It is not some official list from the gaming gods but it seems everytime there one of these "top 5 whatevers" list there are gamers on here that look to them as gospel as if it was a scientific study and now the results are out becuase it was on N4G.
Don't know why these top 10 blah blah article always get high degrees and hits but they do, odd.
First off, the inclusion of MAG is just ridiculous. Give your head a shake.
Second, Haze was merely an average game. To include this in a "worst of" list just goes to show the author either never played the game, or doesn't play that many games. The gameplay was fun at times, the split-screen co-op was a blast, the split-screen online play with a guest was something more games should do and the story ambitiously tried to blur the lines between good and bad but unfortunately the attempt at social commentary didn't fit with the game. There were things that bugged me about the game, but it's far from a "worst of" game.
MAG just leaves me puzzled. Did he play a different game? Maybe he confused it with Socom but even that game doesn't deserve to be on a "worst of" list.
no it just shows u have 200 hours to waste on bad game. 200 hours, wow, stay away from world of war craft then.
He probably never touched MAG or he's one of those rage quitters that get pwned so fast by vets or has the tendency to catch grenades. Probably just like those guys in pennyarcade.
There's so much hate against MAG. I think, it's because people cant believe the 256 in action with tons of smoke, bullets, explosions, and 256 people moving around without lag.
MAG, almost like Warhawk, has a steep learning curve. The more you die the faster you learn.
Oh yeah, im taking in new clan members who wants to join me in SVER. The clan name is [AMF] "A Midget Fighter". The only requirements is that you have to have a medkit and resuscitation ability and that you kill as many red dots as possible. Just friend or message me on PSN.
Lol. NowGamer is hardly dudes in their underpants. Do some research before posting slights at the site.
Anyway... the article 'Top Five Worst Xbox 360 Exclusives Ever" is under construction and going up shortly. Which I'm sure will make you happy.
How would one go about researching a d-list amateur games website? I think that you are a little bit too impressed with these hacks.
Except that article is just as garbage. Say what you will about the 360 or the Halo series, but ODST is far from a bad game, let alone one of the worst exclusives for the system. Both of these articles are just flame-bait garbage posted for some quick hits.
MAG? Seriously? Pffft, this guy know crap, MAG Delivers, I'd put X-edge in that list...
This list is decent, all the have to do is put Mobile Suit Gundum in First, and shift everything else back one, and its good. That way Mag will not be on there, as it doesn't deserve to be.
MAG is a great game, I have almost 300 hours logged in and I can't think of a game on the PC, 360 or PS3 (I don't own a Wii) that I put that much time into for an online game. The only thing that this game needs is a single player game, even one with a flimsy story like UTIII.
Lair is another great game that got shot down for no good reason, Gametrailers assassinated that game acting like a feature that Factor 5 put in so people could see what the dragon picks up and thrown was a huge bug in the game. The game isn't perfect, but it still stands as probably the most technically advanced game out on consoles until someone can lay down another game and go feature by feature and show me otherwise. As a matter of fact, if anyone can do that I'd appreciate it if they'd tried... they'd lose, but I'd appreciate it.
Haze is butt, but some liked it. I played it and my brother and me were laughing at how bad it was. The multiplayer was ok though; but it won't win any awards.
I didn't play the other ones.
Liar was epic. A lot of graphical glitches though in the night mission. It took me forever to figure out how to kill the big serpent thing in the ocean. I love the epic battle in the sky with the floating rocks and those damn giant dragons on steroids. They made my dragon look like a kitten next to them.
Mag was a decent FPS i recommend it for hardcore shooter fans but one of the worst ps3 exclusives lol no way
lair is lovely grat sound great battles controll took getting used to breat for a first gen game mag is mag yes it took a graphics hit but they focusedo n the netcode so decent graphics for a decent multiplayer game...sorry not on that list
Trying to decrypt what you wrote...
Lair is good, MAG has crappy graphics but shouldn't have been on the list?
...jeez
not crappy graphic but it took a hit to freeup more cpu time for network stuff
how on earth did MAG get on that list?? they must be a COD noob 0_0
I am glad WKC did not feature on that list, I love that RPG lots:):)
Anyone can be good at CoD because it takes no skill.
My sister, who's 14 doesn't do that bad.
MAG actually takes skill
COD is run and gun and powerups. And if you say hardcore mode, noobs use the heartbeat sensor and ninja crap and camp like little wusses.
you a noob simple. Aiming is a basic step of shooting, but many people fail to do that
BWUAHAHAHA! He thinks he has skillZ in COD?! COD requirs skillzzz? That's news to me.
i bet you im better than all of you at CoD. MAG is the worst shooter ive played after haze this gen.
What are your CoD K/d's or win ratios & streaks if its so easy? i bet mine makes yours look embarrassing.
in fact, i bet im better than you at mag too. have any of you kids who spend all day on this site even won money on a game? have you been on gb? no? then stop talking as if you were good GG
We haven't had nice samurai (not ninja) action like that since Onimusha. It got hammered in the reviews because of the infamous "giant enemy crab".
I've played the game twice and it ties in nicely with the 1st one and has some pretty epic moments. Not bad, considering I bought the thing for $20.
I respectfully disagree, as one who bought Genji 2 full price at launch, even when compared to the somewhat lackluster launch titles of the PS3, Genji was subpar, the graphics left me completely unimpressed, the combat did not entertain me at all. The only reason this game sold some copies is because there wasn't much else to play on the PS3 at the time, with the exception of Resistance.
And while it did get hammer by gamers for the Giant enemy crab thing, critics hammered it because it was a poorly made game.
It might have been worth 20$, but it definitely was not worth 60$.
@MaximusPrime
MAG is a great game, but Lair, not so much, at least when played using the SIXAXIS. I know they released a patch to use "regular" controls, but the fact remain that when it was released, the game was barely playable and was utterly unresponsive. The worst part about it has to be the fact that Factor 5 said they were using the sixaxis because the game would be unplayable using normal controls... yet they released a patch a few months later to allow it...
uising the unresponsive controll to me felt like i was controlling a large angry fire breathing critter, its not a f16 it handles like it hass mass whats the problem with that?
lair was fine i enjoyied it greatly loved the story
reason it got marked down it people expected something it wasnt same with mag
Genji was disappointing to me and a bad game. It could have been good, but they made too many weird faults.
I really liked the PS2 Genji game, but the PS3 one was misguided.
The camera was too close to the character, and you couldn't see all enemies around you. When the combat system (which is actually quite good) depends on countering and avoiding enemies that's no good.
Also the fixed camera made the platforming parts an annoying chore of misguided jumps and deaths.
It could also be hard to find out exactly where you were supposed to go and how to get there. It got so bad and annoying that I didn't even finish the game, it just wasn't fun...
They aren't that bad.. Alot of fun to play, Excellent graphics too
All those games suck a big one, but MAG is pretty good, just takes some getting use to.
I can think of a lot worse games, how about
1) Go! Sports Skydiving
2) Afrika
3) Conan
4) G1 Jockey 4 2008
5) Wagan Midnight
Pretty sure their all 'exclusive'.
Good bad list, but I think they don't include lovely PSN downloadable junk. Just retail titles, please.
I don't think Conan was PS3 exclusive, I'm pretty sure I played the demo on 360. Also I would use retail titles not PSN titles, there's to many crappy ones to make a list, same goes for Xbox Live Arcade.
Afrika's idea was actually great but the budget and execution was terrible. I actually bought it thinking it was going to be like teh old Encarda stuff with tons of videos and info but it was really lacking.
Conan is fun for what it is, and it has boobs so not that bad! LOL
Afrika isn't bad. It's a slow camera based game. Not for everyone, but that's how it is. My wife plays this game. It is a very beautiful game, like Wii's Edless Ocean. I would give it a 7.0, which by no means is bad.
Conan was pretty fun (multiconsole though). You just have to adjust your expectations, but the gameplay was fun. Boss battles were a bit annoying in some cases.
sorry afrika is fine for what it is and a companys first ps3 game replace afrika with lesure suit larry
IS a great game ...whoever wrote this lost all credibility when they put MAg up there..
I think MAG is very divisive amongst gamers. I played it 30 hours and couldn't stand it, but I wouldn't say it's a bad game, just not for me. My brother on the other hand played the hell out of it.
Just one of those games that's either a love//hate thing. Lair would be in the same boat for me, I actually liked that game, even with the wonky controls.
-CadDad
I think Last Rebellion deserves to be on the top. Vampire Rain: Altered Species is second for me. SOCOM:Confrontation should be around there too.
OMG, that game sucks so bad. Wasted 40 dollars on that sucker. The story is so stupid and the gameplay is a big WTF.
Only played Haze and I would definitely agree with the decision. Although the multiplayer was all that bad.
Also, if the controls are a problem with LAIR, try using the analogue stocks. Or are games never allowed to improve, and must always be remembered for how bad (the gaming journalists at the time thought) they were?
Crappy, uninspired article because the journalist had nothing better to do. We get it: ever platform has bad exclusives, we don't need 10 articles (in the loosest definition of the word) telling us about them over and over again.
I'll never forget Lair. It was the first game I bought for my PS3 and it was so damn bad, imo! The analogue stick update didn't help it either.
Lol - I had a friend who bought a PS3 after trying Lair around my house!
Different strokes I guess.
Some of these are actually quite good. Lair is excellent after all the patching. Haze is mediocre, and so is Genji. MAG is good/very good. Either this list is an homage to the quality of PS3 exclusive titles, or he simply forgot that Vampire Rain: Altered Species and Untold Legends exist.
In my book, MAG > CoD.
What we have is a game that didn’t sell 10% as much as Halo/CoD, which has a rather small online player community, but boy is it a blast to play. Thankfully, the CoD noobs have mostly left MAG now. What you have instead is an intense tussle between squads that are equally matched and good at working together.
I was lucky to be in a match yesterday between two strong clans and some of the flanking moves were breathtaking.
Man, I rape in MAG. I use to get extended knife and butcher the whole lot of Valor. Was part of Sver and Raven. Almost finished all 3, but I got no more internet for my PS3. (Stealing internet from my neighbors till I move..LOL)
MAG? seems to me that somebody dont have skills lol , shooter isnt my thing but MAG isnt a bad game but opinions are opinions , they have theirs i have mines , i love MAG , i have reach level 60 with VALOR , im at level 57 with SVER , oh and i mostly play Domination
EDIT: i like Lair too , i hope theres a LAIR 2
Lair really should not be on that list. I dont understand how everyone is so bad at adapting to a new control scheme. While i will admit thet there were some gameplay issues such as the lock on system the motion controls worked perfectly fine. Maybe for those of you who hated it should have done the tutorials first. the gameplay wasn't bad enough to give the game such low marks from the reviewers when it had a lot going for it such as graphics and the most epic soundtrack i have ever heard in a video game. Sony should ask John Debony to compose some more for them. Back to gamplay, developers are not always going to please everyone. For instance i feel bad for developers who choose to make FPSs that arent COD as all everyone dose is b***h about how the controls are different than COD seriously everyone needs to grow up. Finally the games epic fail is completely Sony's fault.
EXCEPT Lair and MAG. First of all, Lair's big "issue" wasn't even an issue. People just cried and whined about the controls because they lack dexterity. If people would have stopped jerking the controller all over the place and just moved fluidly you'd see the controls were just fine.
MAG is probably one of the more realistic FPS games out there. This is a good game no matter how many of the MW2 tries to tell you otherwise. But if you're one of those people that don't know the meaning of teamwork (many of the mw2 crowd) then yeah, you won't enjoy the game. Since the basis of the game IS teamwork in all
Ah here, Genji's the closest thing we got to an Onimusha on the ps3, we should be thankful. It's not a bad game; who could forget the giant enemy crab? The graphics and the design / production values are pretty awesome too. It got some award for design didn't it?
Alongside Resistance, it was a pretty good launch title.
And even though I haven't played it, I really don't think MAG should be on there either.
MAG is a very good FPS/RTS
Haze is mediocre/average and by no means bad. The only reason why it got hammed by reviews because it was AAA.
Last Rebellion = Awful JRPG
Lair controls are pretty awful at least until they patched them. It's a decent/average game.
Genji = Awfully Awful.
All in all, that's a pretty bad "Worst Exclusives list."
Just for interest, the metacritic scores:
MAG - 76
Haze - 55
Last Rebellion - 44
Lair - 53
Genji - 55
Surprised to see MAG there tbh. Its certainly not the best but it's deffo not in the 5 worst ps3 games, especially when you compare the metascores lol
The sixaxis controls were great. I really don't understand why people bash 'em and frankly I'm a little tired of all the hate for this game.
And MAG?? Ó_õ The fuck?
THESE ARE THE WORST EXCLUSIVES?
MAG is pretty good, this guy just sucks at it probably.
also LAIR isnt bad with the patch, but it was a little too late for reviewers. I recommend getting LAIR now as its cheap and playable now.
I don't have any of those games in my library but i think Mag does not belong there.
And why is MAG listed with this group? It's a poor reason if it is because the developers stated repeatedly that the game can handle 256 players, when in fact it can. The thing about Marketing a product is to highlight the unique thing about your product. In this case MAG can handle 256 players while no other shooter even comes close. MAG is a Great game... don't listen to the author.
Haze single handedly killed Star Wars Battlefront 3. When games get labeled "Halo Killer" it's usually never a good sign.
I unlike most of you, agree with MAG being on the list. I only kept that game a few days before I took it back. I never ran into a huge battle, mostly I was killed from afar and spent a lot of time running. I know it had or was supposed to have 256 players, but I never saw that many. Also the lack of communication and the "Rambo" effect. Players out to try to just get kills and not do the objectives. I think considering there was no offline mode, they should have thrown in headsets for everyone. They charged $60 for the game anyway, might as well helped there cause.
It's the devs inability to deliver on their own hype. They believed too much of their own BS. At the end of the day it cost them the studio.
but after all the awful reviews I didnt want to waste my money on it. I didnt know there was a patch released for the controls though. I might pick it up, its very cheap now.
if you do get the game, be sure to get the patch from the Playstation store. dont worry, its free. it wasnt a perfect game, but it wasnt bad either.
people just hated on it back in 2007, because the game required the person to play with Sixaxis
Haze and Lair, oh god the pain...Lair was so ugly, they kept releasing screens of those dragons and the game looked god awful and was hard as hell to steer the dragon.
I don't get it. MAG delivers what many Military FPS's prentend to give you. REAL TACTICS. No you can't just spam grenades and camp. You have to work with your friends.
Most people hating on MAG only played the BETA. There is a reason they call it BETA.
Eff Da MAG HATERS! Suck an Egg and Die Bastids! LOL
I play MW, MW2, BF BC2 and MAG. MAG still my favorite with BC2 a close 2nd.
i thought Haze was fun and the song Korn did on it was badass if i had the game id be playin it. also why is MAG on this? wtf????
IMO, I played through Haze once and it isn't as bad as what a lot of people and reviews say, but it is still definately no where even close to an "A game".
(I got it in the bargain bin for 5$).
MAG is a great game...
Lair was much better when the new controls were implemented. I still think that game deserves a "post" review. The same goes for SOCOM: Confrontation.
mag? i love that game... this is weird why post this? xbox has what burgerking games.. and i dont even want to name all the sh!t thats on 36.0
I have only played Haze and MAG on that list. Haze wasn't bad, it was a normal generic FPS. Not great but seen a lot worse. MAG on the other hand is a great multi-player FPS, it shouldn't be on any worse list. The others I have no idea about.
MAG doesn't deserve to be on that list. End of story. Lair became pretty sweet after the controls patch. Haze is a decent shooter that was shot down more harshly than warranted.
Until Zipper started listening to the whining bitches and released unnecessary patches.
heavenly sword was not a terrible game. you must get slapped in the face for that.
I'm sorry but Heavenly Sword isn't special, nor any other PS3 games apart from Resistance series.
Heavenly Sword is so short it can be finished in an afternoon, there is not enough variety to the bad guy's design and attacks and some bosses feel a little cheap.
It was billed as the "halo killer" and butthurt journalist set their life goal to be as harsh on it as much as possible then inflated Halo 3's scores, just because Haze was threatening their darling Master Cheif.
Now we have a lot of gamers thinking "Haze surely wasn't that bad" and "Halo 3 surely wasn't that good".
Don't get me wrong Haze is mediocre, a 6 at best, but Halo 3 ain't no 9/10 or 10/10 neither, probably an 8 at best.
i dont see why MAG or Lair are on that list though. yea, they are not the best of games, but they are not bad either. especially after Lair got a patch to allow the player not to use sixaxis support. as for MAG, its getting tons of support and the multiplayer is great.
if anything, SOCOM:Confrontation should be on that list. that game was just horrible, the graphics are sub-par and its a glitchfest, just like MW2. it put a scar on the SOCOM Franchise. /6 for the loss..
Wow. PlayStation exclusives are so good that this guy could only pick a couple out for his "top 5 bad" list, and then just picked randomly? I can't think how else games like MAG and even Lair got in there.
and to the guy that said hs should be on that list need i remind u that the only reason it was crucified was becuz of the length not gameplay,that was the games strong points
Hazee was amazingg :0 i loved every bit of the single playerrr, although the online was sub parr, but i buy a game for what its like when there is no internet connection. and mag :| this guy is onn crackk !!
After they released the control patch Lair became a really enjoyable game.
I really haven't played the other games, so I can't comment on them. MAG got a lot of positive buzz, though.
That's the worst ps3 exclusive I can think of, how come its not on the list? Mag and lair shouldn't be there. Haze was just an incredibly average experience, but not unplayable. I'd rather play the haze campaign two more times then be within ten feet of Gundam: Crossfire. *shivers*
Are they gonna do follow-ups for the other systems, or are they just attacking PS3?