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American Gamers Only Care about Graphics Grunt

"European developers have really jumped on board with this, and it hasn't really happened in America because a lot of gamers there are only concerned about whether a game 'pushes the limit' in terms of processing and graphics. Which is sad because I feel a great game is a great game and doesn't necessarily need to be flashy."

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DAVID BRENT5342d ago (Edited 5342d ago )

year by year its pushing graphics, from MGS4 to kz2 and now the graphically mind blowing uncharted 2, then next year gow 3, gran turismo and then heavy rain.....cant argue with facts

Kakkoii5342d ago

Uhh.. the PS3 isn't pushing graphics in the industry. For a console sure, but not the gaming industry as a whole.

Cwalat5342d ago

Kakkoi@

How can you say that when games like Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, GT5 clearly proves you wrong?

Even PC included in the industry, PS3 has shown to be a beast interms of graphical development. PC is just technically more advanced since it's upgradable with newer tech. I'm sick of the whole Crysis bull**, ofcourse it will look more realistic with more technical stuff crammed into the hardware but that comes with a high cost. For a console, it's pretty damn revolutionary to be jumping leaps interms of graphical development every year considering the hardware has the same tech it had since launch.

I would like to see a single PC game with an artstyle close to Uncharted 2's. Yeah, it's pretty damn hard to find one isn't it?

leeger5342d ago

Bad gameplay + bad graphics = EPIC FAIL
Bad gameplay + great graphics = FAIL
Great Gameplay + bad graphics = GOOD
Great gameplay + Great graphics = Uncharted 2

ABizzel15342d ago

That's not true there are still a lot of us who know and still remember it's the gameplay that makes the game.

Sarcasm5342d ago

Cant we all just agree that having both is the most optimal gaming experience we can get?

Why does it always have to be just one or the other?

If it's all gameplay only, then we should all say F it and keep playing Atari 2600 games.

Graphics can add to the immersion and complete the presentation.

Weren't any of you guys EVER annoyed by frame rate drops? That's part of graphics isn't it?

Don't you guys enjoy LOCKED 30fps or 60fps games more because it's more responsive, thus giving you a better gaming experience?

So cut the crap with the "Gameplay > Graphics" argument. Both are wanted.

Uncharted 2 is factual proof that you can have both graphics AND gameplay.

/rant

Guitarded5342d ago

ODST says hello! Gameplay over graphics! It's not Americans that prefer graphics over gameplay, it's PS3 only owners. Especially on this site!

UnwanteDreamz5342d ago (Edited 5342d ago )

I agree

If graphics don't matter then why spend money on a new console. If graphics didn't matter we would all still be playing the PS2. Hell if graphics didn't matter what was the point of buying an original xbox? These people are funny running around proclaiming themselves true gamers because they focus on gameplay. Gimme a break.

As a true gamer I want both. I spent my hard earned money on my console and I expect devs to use it to it's full capabilities if they want me to spend $60 on their game.

I let graphics go if the game is a good value like BF1943.

@ above
It could be that graphics just don't matter to Halo fankids. Like you have a choice lol. I expect more for my money and that makes me foolish? You know secretly you wish that Halo could give you a visual upgrade but you are too loyal to the brand to be honest about it.

If KZ3 released looking exactly like KZ2 I would have a problem with it. I love how gamers are expected to settle for less because some people don't mind.

Kakkoii5342d ago

@Cwalat: Because console games use a ton of loopholes to make it look like they have amazing graphics. Such as very low Anti-Aliasing, if any. Only 1080p resolution and not even always that. Very low draw distance. And I watched the trailer for Uncharted 2. They only put good textures on the stuff they think you'll pay attention too, but I paid attention to everything, and lots of stuff was very basic geometry with horrible low resolution textures, such as the freight train he was riding on. Because the consoles have such a low amount of RAM they have to do this.

These games could have been much better looking if they were made for the PC. There's a lot more horsepower and software available.

And you think Gran Tourismo 5 is pushing graphics? Lol? It's just a very good texture job with OK polygon count cars for once. There's nothing graphically amazing about it except that it looks better than the previous versions. It just amazes people that the cars and scenery can look so realistic in a game. But I know for a fact it doesn't take much processing power to run GT5.

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kraze075342d ago

Bad generalization. I'm an American and I do like good graphics, but it's not the only thing many of us care about. If this were the case I would never play any of my older games. I still play games from the NES days every now and then.

Feral Gamer5342d ago (Edited 5342d ago )

I love awesome graphics, however I also enjoy DSi and PSP for the gameplay. Graphics aren't everything but they help immerse you in the experience if they're more life-like.

Tomonobu Itagaki5342d ago

Wrong statement. If American gamers cared so much about graphics, they would never buy Halo games.

Gun_Senshi5342d ago

Advertising, from TV Spot every 5 min to Burger King Campain.

LukaX235342d ago

Bubbles for you that was hilarious.

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I didn't expect to save $500 on this epic Samsung Odyssey G9 curved gaming monitor deal at Amazon

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow14h ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot10h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker10h ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz7h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga4h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher12h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21832h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning7755m ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

zaanan3h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Hofstaderman13h ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance13h ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde12h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

RpgSama5h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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